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On 29 Dec 2021, Paddy, Aberdeen South, sub, 130m elevation wrote: 3˚C at 7.30, overcast with a fresh SW’ly wind, rain from 11 onwards for about 4 hours, temps moving up to a max of 7˚, a little brightness on the western horizon just after sundown, clear starry evening again, 3˚ at 8pm. On 28 Dec 2021, Paddy, Aberdeen South, sub, 130m elevation wrote: 3˚C at 7.30, overcast & misty with occasional light rain during the morning, a slightly brighter shade of grey in the afternoon with a max of 4˚, clear starry evening. 1˚ at 8pm. On 28 Dec 2021, claude wrote: Cuz in Norway sent pic of 30cm snow overnite and still snowing lightly .hes 10m ASL.down here we are doing catchup with 30mm rain since ystdy lunchtime 20mm of that o/n,14C and 96%H On 28 Dec 2021, Tony ex sub wrote: Hi rhys I understand where you are coming from but can you explain why this site is still going for an lia yet I personally don't see any sign ....yes the UK is little ,and has warm waters but surely we should start to he cooling ???? Temperatures this year in my garden for the last week have fluctuated between 1.7 degrees and 5.6 above last year .....on average over the year its been 1.4 higher .......so you can understand my sceptism...... On 27 Dec 2021, Paddy, Aberdeen South, sub, 130m elevation wrote: 4˚C at 7.30, overcast but dry, rain setting in mid morning, some of it very heavy, dry again in afternoon with a max of 5˚, light SW’ly wind, 4˚ at 8pm, looks like warming up again in the coming week. On 27 Dec 2021, Ron Greer wrote: Interesting to see the dichotomy between the BBC, Norwegian and GFS projections over the next week or so, especially in regard to the shifting lines between the Azore and Polar airstreams. GLENN/ASIM, perhaps if the GFS predictions for the 7-12th January turn out true, you'll be telling us a different story. On 26 Dec 2021, Rhys Jaggar wrote: Asim I'd like you to take a look at the Global Snow Lab site at Rutgers uni: http://climate.rutgers.edu/snowcover/ That gives you an holistic picture of the entire Northern Hemisphere, which is a far more reliable indicator than lil' ol' England, which is a small landmass near a warm current from the Gulf. NH snow cover does show some declines over the c. 55 years of data they have, but it's not totally radical and it suggests that variability in snow cover is pretty significant, particularly in spring and autumn. Winter and summer tend to show far less differences. Let me tell you another story from 1982/3: a winter I spent in Salzburgerland, Austria. That year, January in Austria was so mild that the 'Ice Wine' crop was destroyed due to weather described as 'viel zu warm fuer diese Jahreszeit', which translates as 'far too warm for this time of year'. It was +15C in Vienna in January. That was 40 years ago, nearly. The year before was a long, cold, hard winter. On 26 Dec 2021, Paddy, Aberdeen South, sub, 130m elevation wrote: 3˚C at 7.30, overcast with a continuing cold SE’ly wind, rain starting up around 2pm & not letting up all afternoon & evening, 4˚ at 8.30pm. On 26 Dec 2021, claude wrote: Ive worked in snow and neg 8/9deg when your fingers wont work to do up the zip on your jacket or the belt on a saddle.and ,id rather what we have now, a little bit of cold and more warm ,not hot,.warm .1934 I think was when we had Snow over most of nz.Because it wasnt in our lifetime we dont understand how bad it was..rember 1963 in UK.do you want that every year. IT WILL happen again. On 26 Dec 2021, claude wrote: Dont lose hope you guys,we down here also have not had a really cold winter for ages,which i put down to ,1, the sun cycles,2,the lack of O3 letting in far more UV than weve ever had before,,.UV is heating,its what burns us as sun burn .and if you look at NASA O3 maps and see how depleted the O3 is world wide and from their bar at the bottom remba that ,below 220 units is classed as a hole,so the world is in trouble.From my obs of it for the past few yrs when the O3 is thicker over ,or close by we get crap cold weather.,and the same for the N hemi its just the thick O3 is staying over other parts like the USA/canada,parts of Europe.,its patchy now. BUT if you look at the long term,hundreds of yrs cycle of the tree rings the Warm periods Dont last long compared to the cold..We can adapt to warm ,grow more food,swim at beaches longer.theres far more advantages to warm than negitives with cold.Do we really want to go back to months of real cold.I dont... On 26 Dec 2021, Asim Arslan wrote: Tony Ex is totally right I am not convinced every year the UK is spring in winter it’s global warming for sure. Has not been a decent winter since I can remember unless you live in Scotland. Cold winters are a distant memory On 26 Dec 2021, Glenn wrote: Yet another non-white Christmas. I have already given up hope of seeing any kind of snow this winter at all. Snow in Norfolk is something that just doesn't happen anymore. But then again with the increasingly left wing government and the power of the warmists being at a record high what else can I expect. I just know that I'm going to be very bitter by the time march 1st gets here. On 25 Dec 2021, Paddy, Aberdeen South, sub, 130m elevation wrote: 1˚C at 7.30, fresh & raw SE’ly wind, quite sunny with clouds drifting in off the sea, more cloud cover in the afternoon, wind continuing at same strength, 2˚ at 9pm. On 25 Dec 2021, Tony ex sub wrote: Claude I agree with the weather station observation.....on my post round I do rural and in one of the villages I deliver to is always 2-3 degrees down on the town temps ......my findings are based on my garden temperature over the last 6 years ,the lack of snow ,frosts in winter .....last year I deiced my car ,,,,4 am only 6 times while winter ,the least ever .....my personal observations .....that's all On 24 Dec 2021, Paddy, Aberdeen South, sub, 130m elevation wrote: 2˚C at 7.30, overcast with intermittent light rain, cold NE’ly wind, brightening up in the afternoon with quite a bit of sunshine, temp dropping to 1˚ towards evening, clouding over &’warming to 3˚ by 8pm. If you want some truthful, funny & grim entertainment: https://www.bitchute.com/video/32Bgbpo7lRHz/ 2:40 mins, Merry Christmas! On 24 Dec 2021, claude wrote: TONY what you have to do is ask , WHERE IS THE RAW DATA.here i live abt 3k from the airport..my weather stn is out on the fence post.when i look at the weather forecast in the morning i see that the temp in town is 2/3 deg warmer than the airport and the airport is often 1/2 deg warmer than here because of the heatsink of the tarmac and concrete so when they give th temp.what will they use mine in a paddock or the town or airport.so my understanding is that they ave the airport and the town,because they dont get mine.,so the temp is naturally fudged by heat sink.whereas the truer temp is out in a paddock far away from any heatsink there are sites that give true temps but not many. most are fudged and so show warming as the cities spread.add to that thinning ozone letting in more uv and bingo.GW.but its a false warming.get yourself a weather stn and put it out in some farmers paddok far away from every heat source and see how your data matches theirs .. On 24 Dec 2021, claude wrote: Happy Xmas all. down these parts its partly cloudy,cool SE breeze and 15.6C. yep Mark,i too cant be bothered trying to show others what the reality is .let them figure it out the same as i have . the info is there ,if you want to know go looking..and Tony go ask a tree what is happening. the dougy fir, i just looked at showed a cold spell or slow growth back in the late 60s to 82 then86-99 and 2018-2020,and its only88y. other trees show slow growth from 82/3 regardless of their age...ask to see whole disks not coreing data.find a stump in a cutover forest and look and learn..REMEMBER those who need funding fudge data.so you have to look yourself. I was thinking last night before bed that, how do the modern science community sleep at night knowing that the stuff they release is falsified to secure funding and conform to others agendas.the price of electicity and fuel goes up and must hurt their families too,all based on lies.sad,sad people. On 24 Dec 2021, Tony ex sub wrote: Well Mark I was just stating how I felt, and all to me the false hopes ......I do look at other sites ...I talk to relatives in USA, Australia about their climate and is it changing ???the reaction from USA denver is not as prolonged cold or snow ....Australia just outside Melbourne is a slight heat increase ....so my statement to you would be what facts , ,sites do you visit to show a possible lia????I've studied the weather since I was a kid and I know for a fact that the winters are milder ,....this site promotes a cooling yet I don't see it at moment is test do wrong to try and dispute it ????I did subscribe fir a while ,as I thought as a postman would be good to know what each month would bring ...sorry but at best 25%was accurate .....id warn colleagues at work to prepare and it fell flat .....from my own corner I hate the constant warmist alarming ,but it's hard to debate with them whilst the weather once again in UK is so mild ..... On 24 Dec 2021, Mark Hall wrote: To be quite honest, I can't be bothered to convince people who don't appear to do much independent reading or research themselves. Or thinking in general. It would be in one ear and out the other. And pretty much a wasted effort. Stick with the zeitgeist my friend and you will never be disappointed. On 24 Dec 2021, Tony ex sub wrote: Well ,well another mild Xmas in northants .....sorry I used to believe this site,....I remember each year certain members ,some who no longing comment saying 19/20 will be the start of something colder ,moved to 20/21 ,21/22 ...I dont see it ,not here in UK....winters were definitely more snowy and colder in 60s ,70s when I was a youngster .....anybody on here with real knowledge convince me that the planet is indeed not warming up .... .I've defended this site and others but I don't see anything cooling down... On 23 Dec 2021, Paddy, Aberdeen South, sub, 130m elevation wrote: 1˚C at 7.30, overcast & wet with moderate rain all day in a light NW-NE’ly wind, temps slowly moving up to 4˚ by 8pm when it was still raining. On 23 Dec 2021, claude wrote: Yep Ron ,a loong time,a week ,they got today right for us down here ,just the slight temp drop after the low blanket evaporated.11C,with a red tinge to the mid/high cloud.so expect a fine warm day,certainly no drizzle unforecast like yesterday,in the higher country which luckerly didnt stay. .I sanded up an 88y old dougy fir tree disk a couple of days ago and wanted to see if El Nino/La Nina,were discernable, Not at all, nothing, jumped, out from any other years on the strong and very strong years which i found surprising since it affects our weather so much. On 22 Dec 2021, Ron Greer wrote: The different projections of GFS, BBC-Meteo and the Norwegian Weather Service and their inter-intra variation of prediction within a very short period of time are intriguing. We got snow here last night that none of them predicted. The NWS is predicting heavy wet snow with us on Thursday, but the Beeb is non committal. A week is a long time in forecasting with 50 million computer system behind you. On 22 Dec 2021, Paddy, Aberdeen South, sub, 130m elevation wrote: -1˚C at 7.30, feeling really cold in a light NW’ly breeze, which changed into the SW during the morning but equally cold, overcast & grey all day and then by evening, light rain and 1˚ at 8pm. On 22 Dec 2021, Rhys Jaggar wrote: More relief for the California drought situation coming this week: https://www.ijpr.org/weather/2021-12-21/up-to-100-inches-of-snow-forecast-for-the-sierra-over-christmas-week 2-3 inches of rain in steady, not flooding scenarios down in the valleys and up to 9 ft of snow up in the high Sierra. On 21 Dec 2021, Paddy, Aberdeen South, sub, 130m elevation wrote: 0˚C at 7.30, not very frosty though but feeling cold all day, overcast until midday when the sun came out, max temp 1˚, getting down to -2˚ by end of afternoon under a clear sky, then clouding over and ‘warming’ to -1˚ by 8pm, mostly still bar a very light W’ly breeze. On 21 Dec 2021, Asim Arslan wrote: Ron we are just into winter lol winters in SE or most apart from Scotland is balmy and mild it’s been like this for ages many years now. On 21 Dec 2021, Asim Arslan wrote: Rhys I never said it snow regularly of the winter in SE, but if you read what I am saying past few years easterly winds where cold and does favour London / SE however not anymore as it’s harder for snow to fall there due to climate change or other factors. It’s a marginal affair this proves or what’s coming up for Xmas in fact was same for winter last year. On 21 Dec 2021, Ron Greer wrote: ASIM: latest run of GFS ( 10.00hrs 21st Dec) suggests snow right across the south/southeast of England. However it turns out, as we all 'know' this will be caused by AGW ! On 20 Dec 2021, Paddy, Aberdeen South, sub, 130m elevation wrote: 3˚C all day, another grey & damp one but without any actual rain and only a light breeze from a generally W’ly direction. On 20 Dec 2021, Ron Greer wrote: ASIM: Well,, the gyrations and flip flops of the standard models are almost hilarious, as is the difference between the BBC model and GFS. If you put any faith in the latter, it looks as if you might get Xmas snow as far south as the Midlands and indeed even lower than that. Both models indicate almost a certainty of that in Scotland, with a rather cold week to follow. Winter is still at an early stage, On 20 Dec 2021, claude wrote: So true Rhys,we all forget the weather just cycles around,and the data shows it .was just showing a cuz yesterday my dendro logs and she a townie immediately saw how the weather has cycled up for short periods and down cooler for longer over the last 750 years,no one ought to get used to the warm we have now cos it aint gonna last,no matter how the CO2 believers want it to to uphold their dogmas. meanwhile the Sth Is got a hammering from the leftovers of our rain last week with one gauge reg.270mm in 15 hrs,and the area is cut off from society for a few more days yet.. Townies who go to live the romantic country life always bleep when they get up close to nature.its not as nice as they think and they arent prepared for the real country life. no roads no power,no phone''.Mummy im scared,i cant use my phone,and i cant go to the shops for 5 days'. haha, the everyday reality for those who grow your food. On 20 Dec 2021, Rhys Jaggar wrote: Asim, I don't know how old you are but I grew up in NW London in the 1970s and from around Boxing Day 1970 through until December 1979 we only saw one day of snow in 9 years. 9 years. From 1979 to 1987 there was plenty of snow in the SE of England and some record low temperatures set too. Outside of the Little Ice Age, there has NEVER been guaranteed snow in the SE of England. We've already had one fall of snow this autumn in NW London. You need to do a bit more research if you think that it snowed regularly in the SE 50 years ago. On 19 Dec 2021, Paddy, Aberdeen South, sub, 130m elevation wrote: 1˚C at 7.30, overcast and feeling cold in the damp air, very light NW’ly breeze, staying grey all day, temperature only rising to 3˚, still that at 10.30pm, along with some light drizzle. On 19 Dec 2021, Ronan 45 day sub. wrote: Has anyone managed to get any photos of the comet close to Venus or when Venus passes through its tail? James McCanney's past two radio shows have been devoted to this topic. On 18 Dec 2021, Paddy, Aberdeen South, sub, 130m elevation wrote: -2˚C at 7.30, clear as a bell & everything white with frost, bright first part of the morning, then fog drifting in and out for the rest of the day, max temp 4˚, hovering around 0˚ by 11pm, still foggy & damp. On 18 Dec 2021, Ronan $5 day sub. wrote: Hope the Jan forecast is put up before Xmas. On 18 Dec 2021, Mark Hall wrote: Only if you're dim enough to believe that any recent trend is linear and will continue forever. They are not though. The patterns are cyclical and we are at the equivalent stage of 1961 in the 60 year turnover. Or the equivalent year of 1167 in the supercycle based on the angular momentum of the planets. This is serious stuff, but all you have done is bring a childish cartoon to the table. The AGW crowd rely on stupidity like this. On 17 Dec 2021, Asim Arslan wrote: Ron it’s not cold easterlys?? They don’t even exist anymore you mean cold rain. To get snow in the south of UK is getting harder every year it just doesn’t not happen too marginal as always even with a easterly dare I say it but it’s climate change and this is proof the pattern were in just like every year now On 17 Dec 2021, Paddy, Aberdeen South, sub, 130m elevation wrote: 1˚C at 7.30, a bit frosty and clear as a bell, sunny all day with very little S’ly breeze, max temp 3˚, looking like a frosty night to come but then the fog descended upon us in total stillness, therefore still 3˚ at 8pm. On 17 Dec 2021, claude wrote: not sure if sometimes ,as an old forecaster said ',the young ones need to look out the window'.our fc is for fine yet there are Tcu all along the ranges with precip and low patchy cloud the rest.it may burn off. temps down to 13 o/n and i see the outlook for xmas is showers and cool so no beaches xmas day .good i say. On 16 Dec 2021, Paddy, Aberdeen South, sub, 130m elevation wrote: 7˚C at 7.30, cloudy with a light SW’ly wind, some good sunshine, max temp 11˚, clear mild evening with still 6˚ at 10pm. On 16 Dec 2021, Ron Greer wrote: METEO-BEEB, now having to admit of a big high over Scandinavia in the Xmas period with cold easterlies. Memories of 1962/3 On 16 Dec 2021, claude wrote: it did stop but only to take a breath and regather so yesterday we got more from big showers but no thunder.126 now for the week and still light rain this morning but at least its warm. 16-21C On 15 Dec 2021, Paddy, Aberdeen South, sub, 130m elevation wrote: 8˚C at 7.30, cloudy with a mild SW’ly wind, a fair amount of sunshine throughout the day, max temp 12˚, can’t believe our luck, overcast by evening and still 7˚ at 8pm. On 15 Dec 2021, claude wrote: Rain has stopped for a bit 108mm now for the week and more Cbs forecast for today after the ones last evening, one dropped 13mm to add to the sodden ground .saw a car in a ditch yesterday put there by the floodwaters and was told there had been another .ChCh down S copped it yesterdaywith a bit of flooding too.may be the wettest dec.in 30 y so cant be CC.just La Nina. On 14 Dec 2021, Paddy, Aberdeen South, sub, 130m elevation wrote: 4˚C at 7.30, strong SW’ly wind, cold at first but warming during the day & reaching 7˚ by 8pm, dry with some sunshine. Strange how we have such mostly mild or not very cold weather while snow falls almost everywhere else in the world; we’ll get it in the neck yet. On 14 Dec 2021, claude wrote: suns out this morning and the radar has the forecast rain over the E of nth Is so we dodged the second half unless it curls round to visit from the S.a bit gusty too from the E but only showers now forcast till tomorrow. On 14 Dec 2021, Ruairí (East coast of Ireland wrote: Interesting setup for Christmas. Maybe a cold blast from the east? On 14 Dec 2021, claude wrote: managed 25C yesterday and an o/n Lof 17C and rain and more rain so we've had 82mm since sunday night ,others had more so the town 6ks up the road has a few houses with water through, after a stopbank burst,and the promise is, that was only the first half. rest tomorrow if it tracks where they think. after that there is a tropical low heading down to the east of the nth island so will wait and see what transpires.not hearing much blamed on cc with this lot so far . On 14 Dec 2021, Rhys Jaggar wrote: Widespread 2-4 inches of rain across Northern California the past 24 hrs see https://www.cnrfc.noaa.gov/precipMaps.php?group=sf&img=3 for totals. Locally up to 10 inches in hills near Big Sur. Rainfall now pushing into Southern California and expected to be just as fruitful in drought relief in the southern half of the state. Several feet of snow falling in the Sierra, helping build the snowpack to fill the reservoirs in spring/early summer. I would predict a very significant reduction in the intensity of drought conditions reported at https://droughtmonitor.unl.edu/CurrentMap/StateDroughtMonitor.aspx?CA at their next release date of 16th December. On 13 Dec 2021, Paddy, Aberdeen South, sub, 130m elevation wrote: 2˚C at 7.30, stars out earlier on but clouding over later with only occasional sunshine, rather cold & light SW’ly wind, clear sky again by evening, 0˚ at 8pm. On 12 Dec 2021, Paddy, Aberdeen South, sub, 130m elevation wrote: 5˚C at 7.30, quite bright & dry with a light SW’ly wind, reasonably sunny morning but clouding over in the afternoon, temps rising during the day and reaching 9˚ at 10.30pm, stronger wind from the S. On 12 Dec 2021, claude wrote: 14C here this morning after an o/n L of 12.and 24.5mm rain yesterday.the temp didnt want to go any higher than 15 and the cats think sitting by the fire may give me a hint that its cold enough to light it . On 11 Dec 2021, Paddy, Aberdeen South, sub, 130m elevation wrote: 0˚C at 7.30, overcast and icy on some roads, SW’ly wind all day, bringing rain for a few hours around the middle of the day, temps rising to 6˚ by 8pm. On 11 Dec 2021, Rhys Jaggar wrote: Best snow depths in the Pyrenees for years: see https://www.snow-forecast.com/maps/dynamic/pyrenees?over=none&symbols=snow&type=snow.last7days to show 150-250cm+ snowfalls the past 7 days. On 11 Dec 2021, Rhys Jaggar wrote: https://whiterisk.ch/en/snow/new?period=7_days documents several measuring stations in a line from Martigny in the Rhone Valley through to the Glarus mountains on the Northern side of the Alps having received over 200cm of snow the past 7 days. Villages/towns on a similar line are recording depths of 50cm - 120cm of lying snow at altitudes of 1000m to 1500m. Close to seasonal all-time records and absolute records in a few cases. And glory be, California will experience another 'atmospheric river' early next week, bring 2-8+ inches of rain/snow equivalents to ensure that December rainfall will be at or above normal. See https://www.latimes.com/california/story/2021-12-10/snow-in-california-as-powerful-winter-storm-gathers-strength or many other regional reports. Nothing new there, which is NOT what the catastrophists want to hear.... Northern hemisphere snow cover showing little net deviation from 50-year normality: https://climate.rutgers.edu/snowcover/chart_daily.php?ui_year=202 On 10 Dec 2021, Paddy, Aberdeen South, sub, 130m elevation wrote: 1˚C at 7.30, frost in the usual places, light W-NW wind, sunny for most of the day but cold with a max of only 3˚, clear evening, 0˚ at 8.30pm. On 09 Dec 2021, Paddy, Aberdeen South, sub, 130m elevation wrote: 0˚C at 7.30, only patchy frost, bright in a SW’ly wind, mostly sunny all day but rain setting in mid evening, 4˚ at 10pm. On 09 Dec 2021, claude wrote: yep Ron and they all want us to believe them that they can forecast 2050 when its going to be hotter if we dont cut emmissions. THEY are all SO SO funny.. last night here we had a flatliner 18 C all night with a cloudy blanket doing what co2 is supposed too,with 91%H. There are showers round and as some say '',good earthquake weather'' barely a leaf moving. what i thought was blue sky above Tcu clouds, is blue/grey shaded higher cloud,so maybe an interesting day ahead. On 09 Dec 2021, Ron Greer wrote: Well as Victor Meldrew might say 'would you friggin believe it' !? GFS are now predicting a massive and severe outbreak of polar maritime air from the 23rd going through the Xmas period. There you are then GLENN. No doubt GFS will be predicting unusually warm SW winds by this time tomorrow. On 09 Dec 2021, Rhys Jaggar wrote: Further to my previous comments: further heavy snow down to low levels in Switzerland has seen several official measuring stations in the western half of the northern Alps recording close to record snow depths this morning. These near records are a resort-level, not up the mountains. They include Adelboden, Lauterbrunnen, Wengen, which have records going back many decades. With further snow forecast at the weekend to low levels, there is no sign of a 'climate heating emergency' in Switzerland right now. Snowfall in Bergamo saw a Champions League football tie postponed for 24 hrs. Genoa lows have not been 'cancelled' by Joe Biden et al..... On 08 Dec 2021, Paddy, Aberdeen South, sub, 130m elevation wrote: 6˚C at 7.30, showery in a strong SE’ly wind which blew all day, slowing down by late afternoon and turning into the NW, showers throughout the day, some of them heavy, but also a few short periods of sunshine, colder by evening, stars visible through the clouds, 3˚ at 8pm. On 08 Dec 2021, Ron Greer wrote: GLENN: Yes it looks like T Shirt weather for most of Christmas week with the potential for some high daytime temperatures--if one is to believe GFS On 07 Dec 2021, Paddy, Aberdeen South, sub, 130m elevation wrote: -2˚C at 7.30, birth for a short while but soon clouding over and a strengthening S-SE’ly wind starting up, this got wilder as the afternoon wore on, light rain setting in by 2.30, when we had a short power cut, strong gusts into the evening but not as fierce as with Arwen, temps rising through the day to reach 5˚ by 8pm, still raining. On 07 Dec 2021, Rhys Jaggar wrote: Glenn - the UK is maybe not the best place to measure 'LIA' reappearance, as we are right on the edge of Eurasia and with the Gulf Stream affecting us. What we are seeing so far this winter is typical La Nina snowfall patterns across Europe. There is more snow in the Pyrenees and the Picos de Europa (in Spain) right now than many parts of the Alps, courtesy of Northerly winds and a blocking Atlantic high. The whole of Scandinavia is snow-covered and you will see plenty of snow on the Glencoe ski area mountain if you visit www.winterhighland.info . There is already plenty of ice on the NE cliffs of Ben Nevis, an ice climbing mecca the whole world comes to visit. I've already seen a small snowfall in NW London, Glenn. Football matches in the north of England have already been cancelled due to snowfall. Certainly a mild autumn, but so was 1947, Glenn. Nothing happened that year until January and the snow only set in in earnest in February. On 07 Dec 2021, claude wrote: woke up to the sound of rain,amd now at 0600 its drizzly, misty.Had abt 28mm yesterday for a weekly tot of 41mm and so far the month has 54mm.Its soggy out now so looking forward to some finer days but there aint many in the forecasts and those that could be have showers so we get steamcleaned.Temps rose to 22c and only dropped to 16o/n with 97%hum. Its always interesting to compare the Ozone map with temps and weather.'Eldorado weather' has some good maps and temps of most places.Parts of Canada look inviting, -33C On 07 Dec 2021, Glenn wrote: It's that time of year again. Anyone got any ideas on winter this year? Is it going to be a real cold LIA winter like we had last year or is it going to be a return to a mild warmest winter? So far this year seems to be shaping up like the 2018/19 winter, started raining in December. So far there hasn't even been enough frost. Leaves still on trees, absolutely rediculous. We are still no closer to an LIA. On 06 Dec 2021, Paddy, Aberdeen South, sub, 130m elevation wrote: 3˚C at 7.30, light rain in a SW’ly wind until around 11, dry for the rest of the day with a max of 4˚, a little sunshine in the afternoon and getting colder towards evening, 1˚ at 8pm. == Claude, I read about Hawaii snow on electro verse.net, short articles understandable to thickos like me, lots of early snow elsewhere like India & China. Cooling world is round the corner. On 06 Dec 2021, claude wrote: Paddy it may take a little longer to get up to you ,seems Hawaii grabbed some as it was on the way past..i read the temp was 55F ,lowest since 54F in 1962 but snow on the mts is not unusual. Had a penfriend there reckoned it was the only place where you could ski in the morning and swim in the afternoon. Down here the rain came on cue as the temps lowered to around 14C from the 20s we were enjoying and while parts got flooding ie.Wellington area ,they tried to match the precip with temp but didnt quite make it with 13.5mm.here and still showery this morning,and still 14C Feels more like a winters day. On 05 Dec 2021, Paddy, Aberdeen South, sub, 130m elevation wrote: 3˚C at 7.30, cold W’ly wind but bightening up to give us a nice sunny day with a max temp of 5˚, cooling rapidly after sunset, clear starry sky and 0˚, feels like it’s going to get colder than that later on. == Claude, I’m sure the snow will come soon enough with us but whether it’s the same one that is supposed to leave you remains to be seen :-) On 05 Dec 2021, claude wrote: I wish you guys up north would hurry up and take all your share of the snow ,rather than leaving some down here to annoy the forecasters. theyre having to deal with pos snow to around 1400m, 3 weeks out from the longest day,along with heavy rain and pos flooding,while here we are having trouble sleeping in 20c at 3am,and just a few km down the road they are getting wet. very wet if the radar is accurate. On 05 Dec 2021, Rhys Jaggar wrote: 50-90cm of lying snow reported widely at measuring stations in the northern half of the Swiss Alps at altitudes of 1100 - 1700m, suggesting that Swiss children will not forget what snow looks like this winter. Plenty of snow forecast across the Balkans, the southern Alps later next week, so as usual the climate heaters have not been listened to by those drivers that actually DO affect weather systems. Interesting to see what the mountains of Scotland will look like come next weekend... On 04 Dec 2021, Paddy, Aberdeen South, sub, 130m elevation wrote: 4˚C at 7.30, very wet all day in a strong NW-N’ly wind, occasionally NE’ly, temp rising to 5˚ max and still that at 8pm, snow all gone except the heaps that slide off the tunnels. On 03 Dec 2021, Paddy, Aberdeen South, sub, 130m elevation wrote: 3˚C at 7.30, starry sky earlier on, sunny morning in a cold SW’ly wind, max temp 5˚, a bit cloudier in the afternoon & getting colder, 2˚ at 8pm, icy underfoot, still a good bit of snow lying. On 02 Dec 2021, Paddy, Aberdeen South, sub, 130m elevation wrote: 0˚C at 7.30, approx 5cm of snow lying and more being added during the morning, cold N’ly wind but less strong than yesterday, warming to 1˚ during the day, creating slush, but starting to freeze again by 4pm, 0˚ at 8pm. On 01 Dec 2021, claude wrote: the last few days were mild wet and muggy .didnt drop below 14 o/n. the climate guys are predicting a hotter than ave summer for most due to la nina,and it is interesting to compare the ozone map with where the coldest parts of the N hemi are and now that the o3 hole has shrunk to abt half all the Lows have moved back S and our weather has improved somewhat. the 10mm or so we had tues/wed hasnt penetrated the garden much due i guess to it being mostly drizzle and light rain over 2 days,but the lawn has bolted again,and the local maize paddocks have doubled in height. On 01 Dec 2021, Paddy, Aberdeen South, sub, 130m elevation wrote: 3˚C at 7.30, light rain in a fresh N’ly wind, drying during the morning with the wind strengthening and making it feel sharply cold. Occasional spells of sunshine, more cloud as darkness began to fall, followed by intermittent rain or snow showers, 1˚ at 8pm, so we might awaken to white tomorrow morning. On 30 Nov 2021, Paddy, Aberdeen South, sub, 130m elevation wrote: 4˚C at 7.30, overcast & drizzly & continuing thus all day, light S-SE’ly wind, max temp 6˚ and still that at 8pm. On 29 Nov 2021, Paddy, Aberdeen South, sub, 130m elevation wrote: -2˚C at 7.30 today. We had wild weekend, powerful N’ly storm, electricity off Friday night, only back on Sunday 6pm, good job we have a stove for both heating one room in the house & cooking, heavy snow on Friday but melting again in the rain, Sat & Sun dry and cold, lowest temp -1˚ with occasional snow flurries but quite sunny, ground frozen hard. Today: gradual melt of thin layer of snow as the wind turned from the NW into the SW, a surprising 6˚ at 8pm. On 29 Nov 2021, Andy Chiltern Hills wrote: Temperature down to -2 last night with a few hours of quite heavy snow producing one of Ron's Christmas card scenes this morning. On 27 Nov 2021, Rhys Jaggar wrote: First closure of snow gates on the A93 and A939 this winter - live webcams at https://www.snowgatecameras.co.uk/ Looks like mid week will see a thaw, then another round of snow to lower levels. The Alps is now starting to get nicely covered with snow, just as politicians decide to destroy winter tourism once again. Arctic Sea Ice is recovering significantly with the highest levels since 2014 (although NSIDC's daily images have gone on the blink). Less ice in Hudson Bay, plenty in the Bering Sea and most of the Russian sectors. On 24 Nov 2021, Paddy, Aberdeen South, sub, 130m elevation wrote: 5˚C at 7.30, clear earlier on but clouding over for a time during the morning before the sun came out, cold W - NW’ly wind, bracing pre-winter day, clear night, 2˚ at 8pm, wind still blowing. Strong winds forecast Fri/Sat. On 24 Nov 2021, claude wrote: not a bad week so far,unless you are a believer.it began with 19+mm rain, then fined up,with temps up to 21 daytme and 10/11 at night except last night where we are at 5.5 at 0600. another 2 days of fine then cloudy and more rain on sunday pm. will be interesting to see what xmas is like,cold ,wet or sunny. On 23 Nov 2021, Paddy, Aberdeen South, sub, 130m elevation wrote: 4˚C at 7.30, clear as a bell but only a touch of grass frost in sheltered corners, sunny all day with a max of 7˚, light W’ly wind, glorious end to the day, starry sky, 2˚ at 8pm, frost on car roof. On 22 Nov 2021, Paddy, Aberdeen South, sub, 130m elevation wrote: 5˚C at 7.30 & feeling really cold in the fresh W’ly wind, overcast all day but dry, max temp 8˚, down to 7˚ by 8pm, by which time the wind had dropped, so it didn’t feel so cold. On 21 Nov 2021, Paddy, Aberdeen South, sub, 130m elevation wrote: 3˚C at 7.30, sharp NW’ly wind all day bringing frequent showers all day, some quite heavy, but at least they were of rain and not snow, max temp 4˚ and still that at 8pm under a fairly clear moonlit sky. On 20 Nov 2021, Paddy, Aberdeen South, sub, 130m elevation wrote: 7˚C at 7.30, bright start with sunshine until about 9, then gradually clouding over, W’ly wind strengthening & rain setting in with some hefty downpours & lasting into early afternoon, max temp 9˚, bright & quite sunny again until sunset, clear moonlit evening & night, 4˚ at 8pm & still quite windy. On 19 Nov 2021, Paddy, Aberdeen South, sub, 130m elevation wrote: An amazing 11˚C at 7.30, followed by a brilliant sunny day with a max of 15˚, nicely windy from the WSW, clear moonlit evening & night, 9˚ at 10pm. Saw a tiny bit of the lunar eclipse this morning at around 7:20, a bit shaved off the top of the moon - unless it was a cloud :-) On 19 Nov 2021, Ruairi (East coast of Ireland) wrote: Just has a look at the ECM for snow depths for next Friday. My God, wish I could subscribe because Piers is usually on the ball with this. Three figure depths are being shown and not over mountains either. On 18 Nov 2021, Paddy, Aberdeen South, sub, 130m elevation wrote: 8˚C at 7.30 with a fresh and mild WSW’ly wind, cloudy all day but feeling unseasonably warm with a max of 15˚, sun early and late with amazing cloudscapes, still 13˚ at 8pm. On 17 Nov 2021, Paddy, Aberdeen South, sub, 130m elevation wrote: 0˚C at 7.30, first ‘proper’ frost under a clear sky, I’m glad I cut the last few lettuces yesterday and put them in the shed, light W’ly wind, really sunny morning, max temp 7˚, progressively clouding up in the afternoon, 6˚ at 8pm. On 17 Nov 2021, claude wrote: Had a downpour yesterday of abt 7mm in 20min that turned the flat paddocks into temp.lakes briefly,and we were only under the back edge ,so pity those under the main cell. Back down to 7.5c at 0600 so needed to light the fire again and here we are only a month out from xmas.maybe another summer like one in the late 80s where we had fires xmas day or 75/6 where it snowed xmas eve on the mtns and we woke in the caravan to a fine day with snow a few metres up the road from the campground. one could be forgiven for thinking the climate just goes in cycles,some better than others, some much worse ,but just cycles,without any input from humans. Looking at some Dendro the other day and thinking the only data anyone ought to use, is from whole disks,so the raw data can be seen in context,and much harder to fudge and distort with ones own pet theories,by averaging out the highs and lows that show the true cycles. On 16 Nov 2021, Paddy, Aberdeen South, sub, 130m elevation wrote: 7˚C at 7.30, overcast all day, short foggy interlude after 9, quite windy from the WSW but staying dry, max temp 8˚, clear moonlit sky at night, 4˚ at 9pm, could be frosty tomorrow morning. On 15 Nov 2021, Paddy, Aberdeen South, sub, 130m elevation wrote: 8˚c at 7.30, light rain overnight, cloudy with a light SW’ly wind, brightening up big time during the morning and warming to a max of 11˚, bees were out en masse on our flowering ivy, cloudy for a time in the afternoon & then a bright moonlit end to the day, felt like there could be a frost coming, 3˚ at 9pm. On 15 Nov 2021, claude wrote: last couple of days have been a little cooler while showery then hot as when the sun sneaks out. badly needed 16mm of rain was welcomed by all the crop farmers who just managed to finish planting in time .the local baleage maker has a large heap of bales waiting for winter due to good growth and lawns need mowing at least once a week. down sth they are forecasting snow to 1200m and looking at the o3 maps we wont get much change for a few weeks yet.the o3 hole is still too large to let the weather settle. On 14 Nov 2021, Paddy, Aberdeen South, sub, 130m elevation wrote: 9˚C at 7.30, overcast in a light S’ly wind, a few outbreaks of sunshine during the morning, max temp 10˚, grey afternoon, a mild day, 9˚ at 10.30pm. On 13 Nov 2021, Paddy, Aberdeen South, sub, 130m elevation wrote: 9˚C at 7.30, a mild day with a few glimpses of the sun but mostly cloudy in a light NW’ly breeze, max temp 10˚, still a mild 9˚ by 9pm. Still eating lettuce from the garden, last such mild November I remember was around 1984, followed by lots of snow later that winter. On 13 Nov 2021, claude wrote: we got our warm week up to 23 during the day and down to 15/17 at night except when the blankets were pulled off then down to 9/10. Interesting to see there are more finally admitting that its water vapour thats holding the heat,so with a little bit more time we may cease hearing its co2,wont hold my breath tho,the hole they dug is deep. A few too are beginning to see that with a very depleted ozone more uv is reaching the land and heating esp when theres been a CME that has weakened the Magnetic field.The enormity of their stupidity in sinking money into wind farms that only survive with subsidies and leave a massive carbon footprint is slowly sinking in.IDEAOLOGY is so shortsighted. On 12 Nov 2021, Paddy, Aberdeen South, sub, 130m elevation wrote: 10˚C at 7.30 and pretty much all day, except that by 10pm it was 9˚. Rain off & on all day, though by early evening we could see the moon, light S’ly wind for most of the day. We still have dahlias in our veg tunnel, they are usually frost blackened by sometime in October but not this year. On 11 Nov 2021, Paddy, Aberdeen South, sub, 130m elevation wrote: 6˚C at 7.30, cloudy and almost still all day, a few spells of sunshine during the morning, max temp 10˚, S’ly wind getting up by evening, light rain by 7, 9˚ at 8pm. On 10 Nov 2021, Paddy, Aberdeen South, sub, 130m elevation wrote: 4˚C at 7.30, clear and cold, slight grass frost in sheltered patches, light SW’ly breeze, sunny again for most of the day though not as much as yesterday and a max of only 8˚, cloudy evening with 6˚ at 10pm. On 09 Nov 2021, Paddy, Aberdeen South, sub, 130m elevation wrote: 8˚C at 7.30, cloudy at first in a cool SW’ly breeze but followed by a sunny and relatively warm day with a max of 11˚, clear evening, 6˚ at 7pm. On 09 Nov 2021, Fred wrote: Get the winter forecast…..there’s something brewing. December / January more detailed forecast released, Feb awaits…..can’t wait and to say that thus far Nov is spot on and forecast models support the rest of Nov. This is going to be very interesting folks. On 09 Nov 2021, claude wrote: one would hardly call this morning Spring ,more Autumn,10deg here, 11 at the airport 14 in town.clear sky above and a semi halo of fog along the foot of the ranges and up into the higher country. On 08 Nov 2021, Paddy, Aberdeen South, sub, 130m elevation wrote: 5˚C at 7.30, sunny morning with a SW’ly wind, cloudy by midday with rain starting at around 2 in a strengthening wind, some heavy bursts and going on until evening, max temp 8˚, turning very mild, 10˚ at 8pm. On 07 Nov 2021, Paddy, Aberdeen South, sub, 130m elevation wrote: 7˚C at 7.30, very strong WNW’ly wind but mostly very sunny during the morning, some really beefy gusts, max temp 8˚, clouding over in the afternoon, wind abating by evening, stars out, 6˚ at 8pm. On 07 Nov 2021, claude wrote: they must have sent someone out to retrive the long range one they threw out cos it fined up yesterday and cos they took the cloudy blanket away we dropped to 7deg by 0600. theres a little bit of cloud along the ranges tops,so a warm day in progress.and the next 2 if were lucky and if they are right . wont hold our breath tho On 06 Nov 2021, Paddy, Aberdeen South, sub, 130m elevation wrote: 8˚C at 7.30, rain all morning in a blustery W’ly wind of increasing strength and hefty gusts lasting all day and well into the evening, max temp 10˚, some glorious sunshine in the afternoon, 7˚ at 8pm. On 05 Nov 2021, Paddy, Aberdeen South, sub, 130m elevation wrote: 7˚C at 7.30, very light W’ly breeze, mostly cloudy but with a few sunny spells towards evening, max temp 11˚, dropping only to 8˚ by 8pm. We still have flowers in the garden and dahlias in our veg tunnel - they usually turn black from the frost in mid October, still eating fresh cucumbers which we’ve stored after the plants withered and still no real frost. On 04 Nov 2021, Paddy, Aberdeen South, sub, 130m elevation wrote: 3˚C at 7.30, strengthening NW’ly wind, very occasional light showers, mostly sunny though with a max temp of 7˚, somewhat cloudier in the afternoon, 5˚ at 8pm. On 04 Nov 2021, Rhys Jaggar wrote: First proper snowfalls of the winter in Switzerland and Western Austria, with up to 50cm in valleys above 1500m and snow falling down to 1000m in Switzerland and 800m in Austria. So for all the 'climate chaos' being spouted in Glasgow, no-one bothered to tell the Genoa Low and Atlantic Frontal systems they are not allowed to exist any longer..... A few places have actually recorded record snowfall depths for 3rd November. On 04 Nov 2021, claude wrote: its gonna be one of those ones it seems,with the forcast warm, next week,chucked out the window and a wet westerly week to replace it. But we will see.Was up at 700m again at foot of ranges and snow was vis down into the treeline 1000m or so . The cause of our foul weather is a low sitting off the east coast and dumped 220mm since yesterday morning around the Gisborne area. is it spring or winter,summers only 3 weeks away. On 03 Nov 2021, Paddy, Aberdeen South, sub, 130m elevation wrote: 4˚C at 7.30, cold NW’ly wind with frequent light showers and intermittent brilliant sunshine, many rainbows, max temp 8˚, stars visible through the clouds, 5˚ at 8pm. On 02 Nov 2021, Paddy, Aberdeen South, sub, 130m elevation wrote: 6˚C at 7.30, fairly bright with a NW’ly breeze, a few light showers in the morning, dry thereafter, occasionally sunny, max temp 9˚, stars peeking through the clouds by evening, 4˚ at 8pm. Picking some late cos lettuce in the garden I noticed some of them had ‘glassy’ peaks, so we must have had a slight frost at some point in October after all. On 02 Nov 2021, claude wrote: down here the 3day forecast map has it cold enough for snow on most of the high ground down sth and the mt tops in the nth.TThe temps here are down to single didgits at night or barely double.10.1 at 0630.with a 20k +breeze they say will gust to 90 k.so wind chill is down in the 2/3 deg.Last week they assured us that next week we will be warmer than normal so we can only hope.S.SE.E are the cold wind and we have them most of this week.Maybe the 3 CMEs coming this week will change something. On 01 Nov 2021, Paddy, Aberdeen South, sub, 130m elevation wrote: 6˚C at 7.30, strengthening WNW wind, showers until 9, followed by a fairly sunny morning, 9˚ max, cloudy afternoon but no more rain, 7˚ at 8pm. == M Lewis, regrettably we did not see the aurora; although I reported seeing stars it was only through the gaps in the clouds, so I didn’t bother to go out later to check. On 01 Nov 2021, M Lewis wrote: Yes Paddy, the Sun has awoken with an X1. Did you and others in Scotland see the Solar Flare and the Northern Lights on Halloween night? https://news.sky.com/story/northern-lights-add-eerie-glow-to-halloween-following-massive-solar-flare-12456920 On 31 Oct 2021, Paddy, Aberdeen South, sub, 130m elevation wrote: 5˚C at 7.30, overcast with a strengthening S’ly wind which brought heavy rain by 11, lasting until 5pm, max temp 9˚, stars out again by 7pm, 5˚ at 9.30pm, October gone out with a bang but no frost, still harvesting lettuce from the garden. On 31 Oct 2021, Andy B 45D was wrote: Hi Piers time we had a new blog for the coming winter, this one is getting very long in the tooth On 30 Oct 2021, Paddy, Aberdeen South, sub, 130m elevation wrote: 9˚C at 7.30, strong SW’ly wind, obligate greyness - late last night was clear and starlit - with a gusty S’ly wind, heavy rain all morning into the afternoon, max temp 11˚, the sun breaking through around 4.30pm in the west giving us a dry end to the day, clear sky by evening, stars out, 4˚ at 8pm. On 29 Oct 2021, Paddy, Aberdeen South, sub, 130m elevation wrote: 11˚C at 7.30 in a light SW’ly breeze, quite dark under the clouds, heavy rain by mid morning which went on for a number of hours, wind picking up a bit and turning more into the W, max temp 11˚, drier interlude in the afternoon but then more heavy stuff in the evening, 6˚ by 8pm. On 28 Oct 2021, Paddy, Aberdeen South, sub, 130m elevation wrote: 11˚C at 7.30, overcast & drizzly in a SW’ly wind, light rain off & on more or less all day, max temp 13˚, no sunshine, 9˚ at 8pm. On 28 Oct 2021, claude wrote: Fred try looking at Spaceweather .com. While digging a new wastewater tunnel in Auckland they dug up some fossils reports RNZ News 35m down in a 5m bed. I quote,''This one here is a cone shell and this big marine snail and this coral,all once lived in warmer waters which are much warmer than they are today''. they say the fossils are abt 3.5m y old so way before humans caused global warming or climte change.. Maybe someone should tell him that greenie science says its warmer now. On 28 Oct 2021, Fred wrote: CraigM350 - got it , the UK govt agenda. Great Reset in other words. One thing I am interested in is the end of a 60 year 20 yrs x 3 of Atlanticisation of the Arctic Ocean. It ended 2018/19. Interesting to see a sea ice rebound has begun with anomalous arctic cold. NW Europe and UK needs to be hit though before more people jump on board. A ten year ‘outlook assessment’’ from Piers would be good and also what’s his latest thoughts on how cycle 25 is developing? On 28 Oct 2021, Fred wrote: Subscriber - CraigM350 I’m chilled mate, more than NW Europe and UK ! Lol. What’s agenda 2030, I’m not on Twitter so can you send me a link to see what you are referring to? I know Antarctica has had it’s coldest 6months since records began…1940s? No real timescale though. Regards On 27 Oct 2021, CraigM350 (51N) wrote: Fred you're being influenced by alarmist drivel. Just chill. I put SC25 over SC24. I really don't get the fuss. It's a different cycle. It may be higher or lower it could be sharp peak and long decline or double peaked again. Volcanoes are popping and we're in the last gasps of heat from the amo/pdo. Antarctica just had it's coldest winter that we've recorded. Arctic ice is quite happy. Just like the oceans with positive and negative phases, there are oscillations with the earth and sun. Watch. Have patience. They chose Agenda2030 for a reason. https://twitter.com/CraigM350/status/1453495884046557184?t=BxrDP8IoridD5Uz0QZ4W4g&s=19 On 27 Oct 2021, Paddy, Aberdeen South, sub, 130m elevation wrote: 10˚C at 7.30, fresh S to SW’ly wind, some sunshine first thing but then clouding over with occasional drizzle, max temp 14˚, dry afternoon, light rain early evening, 12˚ at 8pm. == Mark Hall, agree with you. The fact that in our location we had no frost makes this October one of the mildest in years; when we moved to this farm in ’92 we had a severe frost on 16th Oct that seriously damaged some of our veg crops. One exceptionally mild month means nothing. Well, except for being pleasant. On 27 Oct 2021, Mark Hall wrote: Wrong weather in the wrong place at the wrong time. Smells like a weakened Jet Stream pattern that's turning meridional. Just wait until a warm loop from the south is replaced by a cold loop from the north. These are the features that Piers goes on about and all part of diminished Solar activity. On 27 Oct 2021, Fred wrote: This solar cycle seems to be exploding….are we to be concerned Piers? No Grand Solar Minimum? North Atlantic…warm, UK warm, NW Europe …..warm. Not good signs and I’m fading rapidly from any LIA conditions…..more like NLIA conditions… On 27 Oct 2021, C View wrote: Rhys Jagger . Further to your comments the Central Sierra Snowlab has measured 29 inches of snow, Scandinavian region has seen it’s lowest October temperatures in 15 years, being blamed on an anomalous cold Arctic. I know someone who suffered the mild ski seasons, on none trip to Italy they were told this had happened before and was described in weather observations kept by monks in a nearby abbey. On 26 Oct 2021, Paddy, Aberdeen South, sub, 130m elevation wrote: 7˚C at 7.30, overcast with a fresh SW’ly wind that strengthened during the morning, rain starting and getting steadily heavier, only stopping around 1pm, max temp 13˚and still that at 8pm. On 26 Oct 2021, Rhys Jaggar wrote: Good to see record-breaking precipitation in Northern California after two years of extreme drought - it won't bring them back to normal, but will certainly do much to arrest the slide toward water restrictions and will also end the fire season early too. Mammoth Mountain ski area in California reports that it will open up for business next Friday, the last in October, following this weekend's storm which brought 1-2ft of fresh snow after two smaller falls and cold nights allowed snowmaking. Will be interesting to see the levels of Lakes Shasta, Trinity and Oroville in about a week's time when all the run-off from the weekend's atmospheric river has reached the major reservoirs in Northern California. On 26 Oct 2021, Rhys Jaggar wrote: C-View The 1980s had similar extremes, you know. December 1981 set the record low temperatures for the UK. 1982/3 winter was incredibly mild, but the summer was very hot, as were a couple of other summers in the decade. 1985/6/7 all had very cold and snowy winters, with ice on the river Cam in Cambridge for the majority of second term in 1985/6. Winters 1988 and 1989 and 1990 were some of the mildest ever and caused major havoc to the European ski-ing sector. 1990/91 back in Scotland had a very, very snow and cold January, with ice down to 500ft in the Atlantic NW. On 25 Oct 2021, Paddy, Aberdeen South, sub, 130m elevation wrote: 6˚C at 7.30, clear start followed by a sunny day with a max of 11˚ in spite of the fresh SW’ly wind, 4˚ at 8pm. On 25 Oct 2021, Mark Hall wrote: This is typical BBC climate activism on behalf of the Anthropogenic Global Warming cabal. We've had 20 thousand years of warming with 800 to 900 year undulations so increased atmospheric CO2 can be explained by outgassing oceans. The ratio of C12 to C13 on Earth is about 100 to 1, but their pet theory on this is no clincher either. We know that C12 is preferred by algae and plankton in the oceans, which in times of spectacular blooming increases the concentration of C13 in the water column that is taken up by marine organisms. These ultimately (over the course of millions of years) become our gas and oil deposits. So burning these fossil fuels will increase C13 levels in the atmosphere. But the other repositories of C13 are the ocean sediments that are subducted by plate tectonics and spew C13 into the atmosphere via volcanoes. There's been an uptick in volcanic activity that the zealots ignore. They also ignore the fact that abundantly used coal deposits are deficient in C13. On 25 Oct 2021, claude wrote: I have in my hand a report from 'the mail on sunday'by David Rose pub.14 oct 2012,and i quote ''global warming stopped 16 yrs ago,reveals Met Office report quietly released'.....The figures reveal that from the beginning of 1997 until august 2012 there was no disernible rise in aggregate global temperatures.''.etc..... and there are charts to go with it. ITs hard to find the true data but because its data, raw data, it cant be fudged much,so they just make it hard to find..Some go to the extent of only allowing Uni folk to access the data.but all this too will pass. Nature conspires to make those who lie and supress the truth ,look the fools they are. On 25 Oct 2021, claude wrote: M Lewis, the big prob.I find is,. it is so hard to find honest science esp from the cc supporters.everything is fudged to support their thinking..i dabble in dendro but only raw data ie.ring width.and have yet to find an old tree that shows gw.rather than g cooling. Something major happened down under in the 1980/90s that slowed growth bigtime in our native trees,whether it was we dont produce enough co2,or the planting of large forests sucked out the co2,i dont know all i do know is growth slowed dramaticly and .its so obvious,also very obvious is that the climate has gone in cycles for hundreds and thousands of years.and as the saying goes ''take the money out of climate change and there is no global warming';..Its sad that science has stooped to such levels,but if you look there still are honest scientists,theyre just gagged for now..did we hear that antarctica had its coldest winter on record ,of course not. that would be honest reporting.The truth must be fudged or hidden. On 25 Oct 2021, M Lewis wrote: Piers and WA are you able to refute this? Sequences of annual tree rings going back thousands of years have now been analyzed for their Carbon signature 13C/12C ratios. Because the age of each ring is precisely known scientists can make a graph of the atmospheric 13C/12C ratio vs. time. What is found is at no time in the last 10,000 years are the 13C/12C ratios in the atmosphere as low as they are today. Furthermore, the 13C/12C ratios begin to decline dramatically just as the CO2 starts to increase — around 1850 AD (start of the Industrial Revolution). This is exactly what they expect if the increased CO2 is in fact due to fossil fuel burning. Furthermore, they can trace the absorption of CO2 into the ocean by measuring the 13C/12C ratio of surface ocean waters. While the data are not as complete as tree ring data (they have only been making measurements for a few decades) they observe the surface ocean 13C/12C is decreasing https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-58954530 On 25 Oct 2021, M Lewis wrote: C View. COP26 Summit in Glasgow needs the diesel generators to provide electricity to charge the electric vehicles which will be driving delegates and the good and the great around the city. How ironic and how very dirty the generators are spewing out carbon dioxide! On 24 Oct 2021, Paddy, Aberdeen South, sub, 130m elevation wrote: 10˚C at 7.30, raining lightly until about 10 in a fresh SW’ly wind, then brightening up with sunshine from time to time as well as a few light showers, feeling mild in a max of 13˚, showery evening, 10˚ at 8pm. == C View, alternatively and more honestly, they could equip every delegate with a set of treadmill pedals linked to dynamos so that they can provide their own power in case of an outage :-) On 24 Oct 2021, C View wrote: Did anyone else see the arial shot of the complex that has been built for the COP climate con on the BBC website. Clearly visible in the corner was a large clump of diesel generators . Surely they should be using their own wind turbine or solar panels although solar in Glasgow in November is maybe wishful thinking. On 23 Oct 2021, Paddy, Aberdeen South, sub, 130m elevation wrote: 5˚C at 7.30, the tiniest touch of frost on the lawn today earlier on but melting quickly in the rising temp accompanied by a strengthening SW’ly wind that blew all day, max temp 10˚ and still that at 8pm. Mostly cloudy with only an occasional glimpse of sun in the morning and before sunset. According to the forecast, we will have a mild week. == C View, I agree - Beijing, Argentina, for instance; it’s all not quite working out as either the warmists or coldists are hoping, mainly because neither are taking long enough time periods into consideration. On 23 Oct 2021, C View wrote: Tony ex sub . Writes that he is having doubts about the LIA and the.weather you have experienced would probably back up that sentiment. It is probably more accurate at the moment to say we are getting solar minimum weather ie swings between extremes . Any phrase with the words ice age in it is probably leading you to expect perpetual cold. However we have had in the last 10 years in the UK , the coldest December in 100 yrs, the cold spring of 2013, the no show summer in 2012, the most snow in the Scottish highlands for 70 yrs in 2014 and the beast from the east 2018. 2021 in Scotland was cold from Boxing Day to the start of February and had it’s coldest February night on record. Britain has very changeable weather so getting a long lasting spell hot or cold is rare and exciting. Taking a world view you will see plenty of record breaking cold happening, lots of places currently getting record early snow. On 22 Oct 2021, Paddy, Aberdeen South, sub, 130m elevation wrote: 4˚C at 7.30, quite bright with a sharp NW’ly breeze, mostly sunny day with a max of 7˚, calm moonlit night with very little cloud, 2˚ at 11pm, frost on car roof. On 21 Oct 2021, Paddy, Aberdeen South, sub, 130m elevation wrote: 3˚C at 7.30, clear start, strong & cold NW’ly wind with shower clouds passing from time to time, we even had a few flakes of snow, mostly sunny though, dry in the afternoon with a max of 7˚ and the wind turning more into the W, 5˚ at 8pm. On 20 Oct 2021, Paddy, Aberdeen South, sub, 130m elevation wrote: 5˚C at 7.30 under a clear sky, light SW’ly wind, some cloud during the day and a max temp of 11˚, wind turning into the NW by mid afternoon, perceptibly colder, some light rain by evening, 4˚ at 10pm. On 19 Oct 2021, Paddy, Aberdeen South, sub, 130m elevation wrote: 13˚C at 7.30, overcast & mild with a light SW’ly wind which strengthened later on, no rain all day contrary to the forecast, 15˚ max, still 13˚ at 8pm. On 18 Oct 2021, Paddy, Aberdeen South, sub, 130m elevation wrote: 11˚C at 7.30, grey, overcast and foggy for much of the day, SW’ly wind, max temp during the day 12˚ but rising to 13˚ by 10.30pm, just a little light rain during the afternoon, quite windy by nightfall, nearly full moon shining through the clouds. On 18 Oct 2021, Andy L - Cambridge wrote: I just forced myself to watch "The Trick" on BBC and am now feeling quite nauseous. On 17 Oct 2021, Paddy, Aberdeen South, sub, 130m elevation wrote: 11˚C at 7.30 and for the rest of the day, mild, still, foggy & pouring with rain, which had been going all night, so copious puddles everywhere. Rain off & on all day, only stopping by evening. No frost in such conditions, of course, and it looks to be mild for the rest of the week, not complaining as many flowers in the garden still looking good. On 16 Oct 2021, Paddy, Aberdeen South, sub, 130m elevation wrote: 5˚C at 7.30, overcast with a light SW’ly breeze, brightening up by 9, sunny until about 4pm with a max of 11˚, clouding over again, light rain by 8pm, 7˚ by then. On 15 Oct 2021, Paddy, Aberdeen South, sub, 130m elevation wrote: 3˚C at 7.30 under an almost completely clear sky, cold NW’ly breeze, some clouds drifting in from time to time but overall a sunny day with a max temp of 14˚, some starts visible by nightfall, 4˚ at 8.30pm. On 15 Oct 2021, claude wrote: just too add,the frustration must be quite great among the mainstream ,esp with how quiet they are about antarctica having just had its coldest winter on record since records began in 1957.and down here we are still getting snow to 400m down the south and 800m or so on the central plateau.I was at 700 m the other day and fresh snow was vis just above in the trees.and this morning is only 11 after an o/n low of 7.5at 30m ASL On 15 Oct 2021, claude wrote: Like you Tony ,I have been sitting back watching and laughing at the mad scramble to try to save face by all the mainstream weather bods who cant understand why the weather isnt doing what they say.Now La Nina is appearing again so for you northern folk you will know what that means ,for us southern ones they say more NE weather and drier down the Sth .For those who see the sun driving the weather its just normal cycles but theres not a lot of funding to be had from normality so they have to drum up all the rest of the boring so called extremes and use selective data to prop up thier falicies. what will happen long term ?the weather will just do its cycles that some will understand but most wont. On 15 Oct 2021, Tony ex sub wrote: Haven't commented for a long time ,been watching the different takes on climate change ......I joined this site as I believed in lia,but now after a few years of mild ,mostly snowless winters ,I am debating inside who is correct ??? I know that the powers to be will always quote figures, ie very warm for thos time of year ,temperatures 6 degrees above average ,but willnever quote when 6 below average......for me it's the lack of a cold long period winter ,but I'm no expert ......anyone wondering like me or are you all still set on a lia ......any real experts on here ????I did subscribe but the forecasts I got were only average only 25% accurate On 15 Oct 2021, Rhys Jaggar wrote: First snows in Austria down to just over 1000m this week, with 40cm falling at 3000m on the Sonnblick. Due to have another bout of snow down to similar altitudes next Tuesday. Nothing really radical in all this, it doesn't happen every year but it's by no means a rare event. An SSW has apparently started, rather early for the winter season. Interesting to see how this one pans out.... On 14 Oct 2021, Paddy, Aberdeen South, sub, 130m elevation wrote: 7˚C at 7.30, markedly cooler than yesterday, cloudy at first in the fresh W’ly wind but followed by a bright and blustery morning which lasted until about 2pm with a max temp of 16˚, clouding up from the west thereafter & wind turning into the NW, heavy rain setting in for a time after 3.30, dry evening with 7˚ at 9pm. On 13 Oct 2021, Paddy, Aberdeen South, sub, 130m elevation wrote: 11˚C at 7.30 in a light W’ly wind that beefed up somewhat during the day, bright & sunny for most of the time and really warm, 16˚ max, a real Golden October day, 9˚ by 9pm. On 12 Oct 2021, Paddy, Aberdeen South, sub, 130m elevation wrote: 7˚C at 7.30, quite sunny with a cold WNW’ly breeze, brightening up more during the morning to a really sunny afternoon with max temp of 12˚ but clouding over by evening, so no likelihood of frost, 8˚ at 8pm. On 11 Oct 2021, Paddy, Aberdeen South, sub, 130m elevation wrote: 6˚C at 7.30, overcast with a light WNW’ly breeze, staying grey all day though dry until about 4, steady light rain after that, max temp 14˚, 10˚ by 10pm & still raining. On 10 Oct 2021, Paddy, Aberdeen South, sub, 130m elevation wrote: 6˚C at 7.30, clear as a bell in a light SW’ly breeze that turned W’ly later, clouding over at the end of the morning, max temp 12˚, some sun in the afternoon, clear starlit evening, 9˚ at 10pm. On 09 Oct 2021, Paddy, Aberdeen South, sub, 130m elevation wrote: 12˚C at 7.30, again mild and grey with a light SW’ly breeze, max temp 16˚, dry morning, showery afternoon with a little brightness in the west by evening, 13˚ at 8pm. Oh, and we saw a lone swallow today that stopped by on our phone wire. On 07 Oct 2021, Paddy, Aberdeen South, sub, 130m elevation wrote: 12˚C at 7.30, overcast with everything damp from overnight rain, mild S’ly wind continuing all day, occasional showers and a max temp of 16˚, very few light spells, still 14˚ at 8pm. Looks like mild and damp will continue for a few days, no frost here so far. On 07 Oct 2021, Mark Hall wrote: I know it's only 7th October and there is obviously no need to panic, but how about uploading the 30 day October forecast? Or pasting the relevant bits of the Autumn forecast which was advertised recently. It's the hope that kills you. On 06 Oct 2021, Paddy, Aberdeen South, sub, 130m elevation wrote: 8˚C at 7.30, quite cloudy in a cold NW’ly breeze, sun coming out by 9 and giving us relatively warm autumn day with a max of 13˚, clouding over again by late afternoon, light rain starting up by 9.30pm, 10˚ by 10pm. On 05 Oct 2021, Paddy, Aberdeen South, sub, 130m elevation wrote: 4˚C at 7.30, grey and overcast with a cool N’ly breeze which strengthened somewhat later on, rain starting mid morning and gradually increasing in quantity during the afternoon with some occasionally heavy bursts, we haven’t had that sort of stuff for quite a while, temps gradually rising and ending at 10˚ at 8pm. On 04 Oct 2021, Paddy, Aberdeen South, sub, 130m elevation wrote: 7˚C at 7.30, cloudy but with bits of sunshine in between, fresh WSW wind that blew all day and only abated by evening, max temp 15˚, sunny afternoon, 8˚ by 8pm. Nice autumn day. On 03 Oct 2021, Paddy, Aberdeen South, sub, 130m elevation wrote: 4˚C overnight, 5˚ at 7.30, cold SW’ly wind, cloudy with intermittent sunshine but mostly dry, max temp 13˚, warm enough to go for a picnic, cloudier in afternoon & evening, 8˚ at 9.30pm. On 02 Oct 2021, Paddy, Aberdeen South, sub, 130m elevation wrote: 8˚C at 7.30 with a fresh SW’ly wind that powered up during the morning, cloudy with a short hour of sunshine, overcast & grey thereafter, max temp 12˚, rain starting by 3pm and continuing into the night, 10˚ at 10pm. On 01 Oct 2021, Paddy, Aberdeen South, sub, 130m elevation wrote: 30.09.21: 4˚C overnight, 7˚ at 7.30, continuous rain from about 6 - 12, brightening up slowly with a mild spell of a max of 14˚ under a cloudy sky and a fresh SW’ly wind, 6˚ by 8pm. 01.10.21: 10˚C at 7.30, a mixture of sunshine and showers in the morning with a stiff SW’ly wind, dry by midday and for the rest of the day, max temp 13˚, clouding up by evening, 7˚ at 10pm. On 01 Oct 2021, Rhys Jaggar wrote: After a six week run of very little rain, two solid downpours in the last few days of September here in NW London. no sign of it coming to an end as October starts, so it looks like the fennel, radicchio, leeks and brassicas will get just the moisture they need at this time of year. On 29 Sep 2021, Paddy, Aberdeen South, sub, 130m elevation wrote: 6˚C at 7.30, light but cold NW’ly breeze, quite cloudy for a start but brightening up quickly to give us a very nice sunny day, though without last weeks great temps, only 14˚ max, the new norm, clear evening and night, 6˚ at 10pm. On 28 Sep 2021, Fred wrote: Subscriber Please re-instate my Autumn subscription???? On 27 Sep 2021, Paddy, Aberdeen South, sub, 130m elevation wrote: Three glorious warm and breezy days in Nairn where we had a max temp of 22˚C yesterday, returning home today in the pouring rain and 8˚ on the road in a cold SW’ly wind, turning W’ly once the rain was out of the way. Clear evening, 7˚ at 8pm, wouldn’t be surprised if there was frost in the glens during the night. == Rhys, I don’t think there is anyone seriously growing vegetable seeds in Scotland, only wild flowers, as far as I know. Conditions are often so unfavourable that it wouldn’t be possible to build a business; no harm in trying for one’s own use, of course. I also get seeds from Chiltern, they have interesting varieties of both veg & flowers. On 27 Sep 2021, Fred wrote: Well done Piers, you called tornadic events around 26th Sept, exactly what’s happened….to the day. What a superb forecast. On 24 Sep 2021, Rhys Jaggar wrote: Paddy - it's good to see that you and I have independently tested two of the best seed suppliers in the UK. Chiltern Seeds are also very good, although I use them mostly for perennial pollinators. I grew Yin-Yang dwarf beans for storage this year from Real Seeds and they were absolutely fabulous. Looks like the warm September is coming to an abrupt halt on Monday - sods law, having booked to take my mother on a short break to Aberystwyth. Daily maximums dropping from 20-21C to 13-15 in the space of 24hrs. On 23 Sep 2021, Mark Hall wrote: George Whitebread, interestingly the same thing happened to Jeremy Corbyn. It's a lack of imagination at the end of the day. They underestimate the dangers of global cooling whilst indulging the mad fantasies of the AGW cabal. All the while surfing the rapids to stay in the game. Power. Any trade off is okay to them. Loads of Green lunacy around, so go with the flow. But it's not real whitewater though, it's a poisonous froth and cynical effervescence that has been spewed by Malthusian nutjobs, eugenicists, dumb hippies and globalists. They are that dumb to underestimate the On 23 Sep 2021, Paddy, Aberdeen South, sub, 130m elevation wrote: 11˚C at 7.30, cloudy with a fresh NW’ly wind that beefed up during the day, sunny by 10 though not particularly warm, max temp 16˚, clouding over by end afternoon, 11˚ at 8pm, now with a fresh S’ly wind. == Rhys, I also get my seed from them, they’re the reincarnation of Stormy Hall Seeds, formerly of Botton Village, Yorksh., they are very reliable. I also use The Real Seed Company, nice small enterprise who encourages their customers to save seed and tells them how. == George Wh.: BoJo is dirty, you can dig into his past here https://tinyurl.com/y8ul6zj9 On 23 Sep 2021, George Whitebread wrote: During the very cold December of 2010 Boris Johnson wrote in theTelegraph about Little Ice Ages and one Piers Corbyn so very strange to see him embrace the green menace at the UN. On 23 Sep 2021, Rhys Jaggar wrote: Paddy - agree with you about Cobra - I grow them outdoors and they are great. We go for Winter Husky for winter leeks - very reliable too. I've been using the Seed Cooperative at Gosberton in Lincolnshire as a major seed source for three years now - the reliability and quality in my experience is excellent. It may be that you would be better off using seed sources in Scotland as you're considerably cooler up there in general... On 22 Sep 2021, Paddy, Aberdeen South, sub, 130m elevation wrote: 11˚C at 7.30, bright from the word go, temps rising to a max of 20 by midday and the SW’ly wind strengthening steadily, some light rain by 5pm but not nearly as much as forecast, this also stopped the wind completely and we had a very mild evening, still 15˚ at 8pm and feeling muggy under the clouds. == Rhys, we grow claiming French bean Cobra in our veg tunnel, very productive & dependable, giving us between 50-60kg every year, potatoes have been excellent in spite of the dry conditions, some varieties with scab though, the leeks we grow are Long de Mézières, very prolific & winter hardy & ready now, no apples this year, a very hit & miss crop up here. We’ll be glad for all this produce this winter as food shortages look very likely. On 22 Sep 2021, Rhys Jaggar wrote: Paddy - glad to hear you are fertile and productive in the fields of NE Scotland. Down here I've harvested a totally bumper crop of Desiree potatoes - 5lb+ per plant and some absolute monsters for baking and chips. Celery has been epic and the Kuri squash are now ready to be harvested the next week or so. Summer leeks (Autumn Mammoth) did really well and there will be excellent Celeriac in November. Beetroot for storage are ridiculously large and are staying in the ground until temps cool down for shed storage. Productive Runner Beans, courgette still being harvested and the parsnips will be superb in winter. Apple harvest also good. Been pretty dry since early August, but a couple of good downpours in September. Can heartily recommend Yin Yang dwarf beans to store the beans inside - superbly productive plants. On 21 Sep 2021, Paddy, Aberdeen South, sub, 130m elevation wrote: 10˚C at 7.30, light & cool SW’ly breeze, sunny from the start and warming up during the morning to a max of 22˚, wind strengthening though during the afternoon, fine end to the day, 14˚ at 8pm but feeling rather cooler in the fresh & now more W’ly wind. Equinox tomorrow. On 20 Sep 2021, Paddy, Aberdeen South, sub, 130m elevation wrote: 6˚C at 7.30, clear sky with a light WSW’ly breeze that beefed up a bit in the afternoon, warming towards midday to a max of 20˚, respectable for this time of year, sunny afternoon but cooling quickly in the stronger wind by 4pm, though still 13˚ at 8pm, Jupiter visible in the SE. On 19 Sep 2021, Paddy, Aberdeen South, sub, 130m elevation wrote: 15˚C at 7.30, overcast with light rain off & on, feeling really mild in the light S’ly breeze which later turned more into the SW, brightening up by midday with a max temp of18˚, dry & sunny afternoon & evening, 13˚ by 8pm. On 18 Sep 2021, Paddy, Aberdeen South, sub, 130m elevation wrote: 13˚C at 7.30, overcast and feeling mild in the stillness, sunshine after 10 bringing temps up to a max of 19˚, SE’ly breeze by midday gradually turning into the SW by evening, quite clear by then, 13˚ by 8pm. Stargazing season starting soon, Vega was visible directly overhead in the fading light of the day. == Maria, nice to see you back! We also had a good veg year, with the obligate failures that occur every year, harvested almost all tatties, so easy with the dry soil and still plentiful despite that, about 450kg overall, in view of coming food shortages, this is not too much. == GWh., cause of winter deaths not only from fuel & food shortages but also from the effects of the depop shot. On 18 Sep 2021, George Whitebread wrote: Chickens coming home to roost it would seem. Story on BBC website today about the surging price of gas due in part to high demand from cold winter and spring in Europe but also due to low outputs from wind and solar. This what happens when you try to run a civilised society on weather dependent energy. In a twist of irony the article also highlights a lack of co2 for the food industry brought about by the closure on Teeside of two fertiliser plants that could no longer afford the high cost of gas., the co2 being a by product from the making of fertilisers. Very real chance of significant winter deaths through fuel poverty and fuel shortages. On 17 Sep 2021, Maria ( Ireland sub) wrote: A couple of days ago the headline was met hinting at dry couple of weeks now next weeks dry days have chance of a scattered shower or 2 and other longrange forecaster predicting cold air, had to tune out of weather forecasts this year and take whatever good parts or lucky no rain as forecast parts to get stuff done so glad as it could have seriously affected the quality of what we harvested. On 17 Sep 2021, Maria (Ireland sub) wrote: We have thankfully harvested early so much veg, garlic cropped out well with enough braided for over winter, the onions despite worrying as 10 or so bolting the remainder where a lovely size and harvested early to store, so many Kuri squash, carrots & spuds, the freezer full of peas runner and French beans and well over 60 pounds of tomatoes harvested and stored in various ways, chilli peppers did so bad last year but this year they are drying all over the place and have pickled jalapenos and fermented some hot chilli sauce, got to give some more sauerkraut a go next as getting into fermented foods, didnt like the taste at first but the more I eat the more I likey :) lettuce doing well now temps cooling as bolted a lot earlier this year or went soggy. Collected so many seeds from flowers to save as the tiny one and I grew 25 types even carnations and we have had so many bees and butterflies, aphid numbers down, even had a visit from a hedgehog :) happy efforts only slight burn out!-) On 17 Sep 2021, Maria (Ireland sub) wrote: Wow we have been so crazy busy I can't believe I'm sitting at the junction between summer remnants to oncoming Autumn longing for just a lil more tshirt time, putting on the jumper and then removing it in reasoning there is plenty of time for that later whilst throwing open the door and windows like it's the last time this year. Swallows are gathering daily swooping like their excited to be going home :) So what a gardening year, false start with spring or more like it just got going late then an amazing hot couple of weeks with an amazing thunder storm, buckets of rain either side followed by equal quantities of mild dry mild wet with another less hot blast and then similar cloudy dry days with scattered showers being a constant threat and the return of bouncy weather that all forecasters have seemed to struggle with forecasting... On 17 Sep 2021, Ron Greer wrote: GFS suggesting a PM outbreak late next week--first snow of the season in the Highlands? On 17 Sep 2021, Paddy, Aberdeen South, sub, 130m elevation wrote: 13˚C at 7.30, overcast start but brightening up during the morning, quite windy from the S but feeling mild, max temp 20˚, sunny afternoon, clouding over again by evening, still 15˚ at 8pm. Swallows assembling everywhere, preparing to leave, ‘ours’ have already gone last week. Time for the honking geese soon. On 16 Sep 2021, Paddy, Aberdeen South, sub, 130m elevation wrote: 13˚C at 7.30, cloudy at first with a bit of light rain, almost still, brightening up by mid morning and warming up nicely to a max of 18˚, light variable winds between N & SE, 13˚ at 8pm. On 15 Sep 2021, Paddy, Aberdeen South, sub, 130m elevation wrote: 13˚C at 7.30, cloudy but fairly bright, light S’ly breeze, cloudy until mid morning and then a long sunny spell with a max of 19˚, cloudier again by evening, 14˚ at 8pm. On 14 Sep 2021, Paddy, Aberdeen South, sub, 130m elevation wrote: 13 Sep: 9˚C at 7.30, cloudy with a light SE’ly breeze but brightening up pretty soon to give us a fairly sunny, occasionally even warm day with a max of 17˚, though whenever the sun disappeared behind clouds it felt pretty chilly, 13˚ at 8pm. 14 Sep:13˚C at 7.30, overcast with a light SE’ly breeze, some light rain during the morning, then brightening up for a short while, max temp 17˚ but the afternoon was cloudy again into evening, 13˚ at 8pm. Never had such an easy job digging tatties, the ground is so dry that it’s a doddle, no squelching around in the mud. == Rhys, despite all the dry weather we've also had a good growing season, lots of sunlight, no complaints. M Lewis: yep, fearful people are much more easily controlled, especially if they are young. We're doomed! (with apologies to Dad's Army) On 14 Sep 2021, M Lewis wrote: BBC News is reporting today that a new global survey illustrates the depth of anxiety many young people are feeling about climate change. Nearly 60% of young people approached said they felt very worried or extremely worried. More than 45% of those questioned said feelings about the climate affected their daily lives. Three-quarters of them said they thought the future was frightening. Over half (56%) say they think humanity is doomed. https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-58549373 On 13 Sep 2021, Rhys Jaggar wrote: Piers I am happy to report that growing vegetables in NW London is actually more successful in a summer like 2021 than warmer, drier years. Of course, tomatoes do less well, but so many others do so much better that overall the effect is significantly net positive. Fruit has been later but just as plentiful. Others may have different stories to tell, but here slightly less heat and rather more rain is a jolly good thing. On 12 Sep 2021, Paddy, Aberdeen South, sub, 130m elevation wrote: 10˚C at 7.30, cold NW’ly breeze, occasional rain during the morning and brightening up somewhat by afternoon, max temp 13˚ - a far cry from the 27˚ max on Tuesday - completely overcast by early evening, 10˚ at 10pm. On 11 Sep 2021, Paddy, Aberdeen South, sub, 130m elevation wrote: 15˚C at 7.30, still, mild & misty again but with copious overnight rain and more of it until early afternoon, by which the NW’ly wind had got up, the mist cleared and we got a few bits of sun coming through, max temp 17˚ and beginning to feel cooler by late afternoon, fairly windy by nightfall, 13˚ at 9pm. On 11 Sep 2021, Piers Corbyn wrote: Hi ALL! ==== M HAMBY and LEWIS yes propaganda and lies USA and UK. These occasional heat blasts are matched by relatively colder and more widespread cold blasts - both are due to wild jet stream swings from generally LOW solar activity. Of course the heat is the only aspect notably reported. The apologists - data contortionists - for the ManMade Global warming lie are disgusting ant-scientific tragic liars who should be ashamed of themselves.====== OTHER NEWS ALL uptake of ALL AUTUMN NOW including month by month extra detail has been slow. Hurry while its still 25% Off (33%OFF ended). ===== THANKS ALL for ongoing obs reports === Piers. On 10 Sep 2021, Paddy, Aberdeen South, sub, 130m elevation wrote: 16˚C at 7.30, another day of no wind, mist & mildness to the tune of 20˚ max, a few light showers in the afternoon but no deluge, 17˚ at 9pm, pretty unusual at this time of year. Nights galloping in, dog now needs his luminous collar for the evening walk. On 09 Sep 2021, Paddy, Aberdeen South, sub, 130m elevation wrote: 15˚C at 7.30, mild, misty and still, staying that way all day but still with a max temp of 22˚, a little light rain by late afternoon but no thunderstorms, change by evening with a light N’ly wind starting up & 16˚ by 8pm. On 08 Sep 2021, Paddy, Aberdeen South, sub, 130m elevation wrote: 14˚C at 7.30, heavy dew but sunny from the start and quickly heating up to a max of 26˚, fresh S’ly breeze today but still quite a swelter. Apparently this is as good as it got, cooler again tomorrow with thunderstorms forecast, 18˚ at 8pm. A few days like this make up for all the other stuff we get up here. On 08 Sep 2021, M Hamby wrote: Checking in from Seattle. Much media coverage of record heat here at the end of June, but monthly tracking indicates that for 2021 only three months have posted average daily high above 125-year averages --- consistent with the last 38 months, when only 14 posted average daily highs above the 125-year. Of course, no media coverage of that. On 07 Sep 2021, Paddy, Aberdeen South, sub, 130m elevation wrote: 14˚C at 7.30, sunny with a light SW’ly breeze, heating up quickly to a high of 27˚ by mid afternoon, makes a nice contrast to last Friday’s 13˚, sunny all day & still 18˚ at 8.30pm. On 06 Sep 2021, Paddy, Aberdeen South, sub, 130m elevation wrote: Away to Perth for the last few days, where it was mostly cool & grey but started warming up yesterday and up to 18˚ when we left this morning. It got progressively warmer and tighter as we moved back towards Aberdeen, positively balmy at 23˚ when we arrived back home. Still 18˚ at 8pm. == Craig, interesting contrast between your and our location, it’s usually the other way round with you having cracking heat and us moaning about the cold and damp, it’s powder dry here just a few cm under the surface. On 03 Sep 2021, @CraigM350, Berks wrote: Paul - copied your content to the politics thread. What a boring last couple of weeks weather wise for the South. Gray, but not cold and usable if not dull. May-Jul was rather wet (about double the average for those months) and the actual heat was bearably short. I found a Sept 1961 article in the Times showing London had a UHI of up to 16F even back then. Must of the recent years warmth has been for minimums not maxima (except when it's Heathrow or sucking an ice-cream van exhaust - then praise yee climate emergency). Glad to have the nights draw in again at least even if it's like Jonestown with the cultists now hurricane season has kicked in (notice IDA ramp after solar storm?). Clearly the Great Reset needs the climate arm and the hatefilled sheep on the left and now right want to zero carbon us. Resist these malthusian idealogues with every fibre of your being. Dig out old news articles of past extreme events and share widely. On 03 Sep 2021, M Lewis wrote: Hi Piers. BBC News is reporting today that Arctic warming and ice melt is directly linked to causing colder winters in the Northern Hemisphere. https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-58425526 It says Looking at the bigger picture, the research team believes that their findings will help people understand that global warming is complex and perhaps dispel the idea that colder winters mean climate change isn't happening. "There has been a long-standing apparent contradiction between the warmer temperatures globally, however, an apparent increase in cold extremes for the United States and in northern Eurasia. And this study helps to resolve this contradiction," said fellow author, Prof Chaim Garfinkel from the Hebrew University of Jerusalem. "In the past, these cold extremes over the US and Russia have been used to justify not reducing carbon, but there's no longer any excuse to not start reducing emissions right away." The study has been published in the journal Science. On 02 Sep 2021, Paddy, Aberdeen South, sub, 130m elevation wrote: 11˚ C at 7.30, back to greyness with overcast sky and practically no wind, brightening up by 2pm for about 3 hours & giving us a max of 17˚, much appreciated, after which it went back to grey and cool, 12˚ at 8pm. On 01 Sep 2021, Paddy, Aberdeen South, sub, 130m elevation wrote: 11˚C at 7.30, cloudy but bright, strong NW’ly wind and feeling cold first thing, by 10 the clouds had dissipated and it was warming up nicely, reaching 20˚ inspire of the wind, clouding over quickly from the NE by 6pm and cooling rapidly to 13˚ by 8pm. The HP off NW Scotland controlling all this was sitting at 1040 hPa this morning. On 01 Sep 2021, Piers Corbyn wrote: HELLO ALL! Great comms I see on crops, harvesting and related weather. Thank you all. ***NEWS***NEWS***NEWS THE BI ALL AUTUMN NOW FORECAST IS LOADED and available at 33%OFF till Sept 6 (inc) when price goes up. If this overlaps with your existing Subs you will get extensions of them for the overlap; and note if you do this for an existing overlap you get that extension at an equivalent reduced rate so its better not to wait (unlike Jabbing). Do it now! Pass this on!. Top Thanks! Piers On 31 Aug 2021, Paddy, Aberdeen South, sub, 130m elevation wrote: 12˚C at 7.30, overcast with a little drizzle early on, cold N’ly wind now for 8 days in a trot, sun finally breaking through the clouds around 2pm and thus warming up a little to a max of 18˚, reasonably sunny evening with 14˚ at 8pm. On 30 Aug 2021, Paddy, Aberdeen South, sub, 130m elevation wrote: 11˚C at 7.30, overcast & drizzly with the obligate cold N’ly breeze, dry after 10 but grey and cool for the rest of the day with a max of 15˚, back down to 12˚ by 8pm. On 29 Aug 2021, Paddy, Aberdeen South, sub, 130m elevation wrote: 12˚C at 7.30, overcast & drizzly with a cold N’ly wind - dog days of August? Not here; I’m sure I’ve written that phrase before. Drier in the afternoon but no sunshine and a max of only 15˚, down to 12˚ again by 8pm, not much prospect of warming into September. On 28 Aug 2021, Paddy, Aberdeen South, sub, 130m elevation wrote: 8˚C at 7.30, coldest so far this side of summer, light winds from a generally N’ly direction but sunny from the start with a max temp of 20˚. Had to dig up some turf to do some drainage work, amazed how powder dry the ground was underneath. Lovely day, 12˚ at 9.30pm. On 27 Aug 2021, Paddy, Aberdeen South, sub, 130m elevation wrote: 10˚C at 7.30, overcast with a cold N-NE’ly wind which only abated by late afternoon, brightening up after midday like every recent day, max temp 20˚ and feeling pleasantly warm in full sun, still & almost cloudless evening, 11˚ at 8pm. On 26 Aug 2021, Paddy, Aberdeen South, sub, 130m elevation wrote: 11˚C at 7.30, overcast with a strong N’ly wind that kept going all day and into the evening, good sunshine all afternoon with a max temp of 17˚, back down to 11˚ by 8pm. On 25 Aug 2021, Paddy, Aberdeen South, sub, 130m elevation wrote: 14˚C at 7.30, overcast with a fresh NW’ly wind that turned stronger by afternoon and into evening, brightening up after midday with some good sunny spells and a max of 20˚, clouding up again by late afternoon as in previous days, 15˚ by 8pm. On 24 Aug 2021, Paddy, Aberdeen South, sub, 130m elevation wrote: 14˚C at 7.30, clear early on but foggy by 6.30 and all morning, light NW’ly breeze, eventually turning into the obligate SE’ly sea breeze and brightening up after midday, leaving us with a sunny & warm afternoon & evening with a max of 21˚, N’ly breeze again by evening, 16˚ at 8pm. == Jane, I would say we up here in NE Scotland have had a pretty decent summer so far, still a few weeks to go. On 23 Aug 2021, Paddy, Aberdeen South, sub, 130m elevation wrote: 13˚C at 7.30, overcast, wet from overnight rain & foggy with a variable light breeze, brightening up after midday with a max temp of 22˚ but clouding up again by late afternoon, 16˚ at 8pm. On 23 Aug 2021, Jane wrote: Really wondering where summer has gone? I used to subscribe but piers has gone as has summer has gone. On 22 Aug 2021, Paddy, Aberdeen South, sub, 130m elevation wrote: 15˚C at 7.30, wet & foggy with sporadic rain all morning in a light SE’ly wind, brightening up after midday and giving us a sunny afternoon and evening with a max temp of 20˚, down to 15˚ again by 8pm. On 21 Aug 2021, Paddy, Aberdeen South, sub, 130m elevation wrote: 15˚C at 7.30, thick fog and wet from overnight rain, feeling mild in the light S’ly breeze, light rain on & off all day but warm with a max of 18˚, still raining by evening, 15˚ by 8pm. On 20 Aug 2021, Paddy, Aberdeen South, sub, 130m elevation wrote: 11˚C at 7.30, overcast and drizzly for most of the morning with a cool ESE’ly breeze, drying up by midday, max temp 17˚, no sun, 14˚ by 8pm. On 19 Aug 2021, Paddy, Aberdeen South, sub, 130m elevation wrote: 12˚C at 7.30, overcast with a cold NW’ly breeze which eventually turned into the SE, cool day with a max temp of 16˚, no sun at all but dry, 13˚ at 8pm. On 18 Aug 2021, Paddy, Aberdeen South, sub, 130m elevation wrote: 11˚C at 7.30, very sunny morning and warming up very quickly to a max of 24˚ by midday in spite of the cool NW’ly breeze, club moving in by early evening making it feel considerably cooler, 13˚ by 10pm. On 17 Aug 2021, Paddy, Aberdeen South, sub, 130m elevation wrote: 14˚C at 7.30, grey and overcast with occasional light drizzle, light & cool NW’ly breeze, cloud cover breaking after midday with temp rising to a max of 22˚, though I’m sure it was hotter than that where we went for a picnic further inland in an old sheltered sand quarry, it was positively roasting, sunny & warm afternoon, cooling down by evening, thermometer still reading 18˚ by 8pm but it did feel rather cooler. On 16 Aug 2021, Paddy, Aberdeen South, sub, 130m elevation wrote: 9˚C at 7.30, cold NW’ly wind, bright but feeling distinctly autumnal. Being August though, it did warm up nicely to 21˚ max and stayed dry all day with the wind slowly easing towards evening, 16˚ at 8pm. On 15 Aug 2021, Paddy, Aberdeen South, sub, 130m elevation wrote: 13˚C at 7.30, cloudy but dry with a light NW’ly breeze, a number of sunny intervals during the morning creating a max temp of 20˚, cloudier afternoon, heavy downpour early evening, after which it felt much fresher, still some (welcome) rain to come according to the radar, 14˚ at 8pm. On 15 Aug 2021, Paddy, Aberdeen South, sub, 130m elevation wrote: 13˚ at 7.30, bright but with a cool NW’ly breeze all day, warm in the sun but occasionally fresh when there was cloud cover, max temp 21˚, one light shower in the afternoon, no wind by midnight, 14˚. On 13 Aug 2021, Paddy, Aberdeen South, sub, 130m elevation wrote: 12˚C at 7.30, fresh and cool SW’ly wind which blew with increasing strength as the day went on, cloudy for some of the time but with many bright spells in between and a notable uptick in temps by early afternoon, reaching 23˚, cooler again towards evening but still 16˚ at 8pm. On 12 Aug 2021, Paddy, Aberdeen South, sub, 130m elevation wrote: 10˚C at 7.30, bright & sunny with a cool W’ly breeze that changed into the SW later, warming up nicely but the high clouds took the edge of the warmth somewhat, though we still got a max of 20˚, evening temp 13˚ at 10pm under a clear sky, stars are beginning to reappear by this time, Jupiter visible in the SE. On 12 Aug 2021, Rhys Jaggar wrote: NW London: plum harvest now complete and raspberries in full harvest mode. Apple windfalls starting to appear and the pears are larger this year than in drier summers, still a long way to go though. A perfect celery stand is now ready for harvest and the soil-based tomatoes are now round and green, so hopefully we will get some to harvest in the next week or so. The rain and lack of heat means the insect predation of brassicas this summer is less bad than usual. Dwarf beans and french climbing beans nearly finished, runner beans now coming on strong. No evidence of impending inability to grow healthy fresh fruit and vegetables, in other words. On 12 Aug 2021, Rhys Jaggar wrote: M Lewis The summer we are having in NW London is rather similar to summers we had in my childhood. One of the best ways to review real UK climate is to find archive footage of test cricket series: if you have damp wet summers, they tend to tell you about it because the cricket gets rained off.... I really can't see how the BBC/Sky can complain: this summer isn't 'out of control heat waves', it's an entirely normal UK summer. Cooler, with some warm spells, regular rainfalls and the occasional burst of strong wind. A few torrential downpours and thunder thrown in. Those coke-snorting prostitutes have a mantra they have to sell and they will keep on selling it until they go bankrupt. On 11 Aug 2021, Paddy, Aberdeen South, sub, 130m elevation wrote: 14˚C at 7.30, overcast with occasional drizzle and a light SW’ly breeze which strengthened by afternoon, a few moments of sunshine and a max of 19˚, proper rain setting in by 4pm and still going now, mostly light but steady, 14˚ at 8pm. On 10 Aug 2021, Paddy, Aberdeen South, sub, 130m elevation wrote: 14˚C at 7.30, overcast with a light NW’ly breeze, intermittent sunny spells during the morning and warming up to 21˚ max, heavy showers after midday continuing in various strengths all afternoon and making it feel cooler, 15˚ at 8pm. == Had to cut the shaws of two tattie varieties, Colleen (1st early) & Charlotte (2nd) as they were getting blight; I’ve now started growing various varieties from the Sarpo stable which are blight resistant. Digging a few earlies I was amazed at the dryness of the soil underneath, I don’t anticipate a big harvest, but we have grown more plants than last year, so should be ok. On 09 Aug 2021, Paddy, Aberdeen South, sub, 130m elevation wrote: 11˚ C at 7.30, sunny with clouds and a fresh NW’ly wind, this turned into the S after midday and we had quite a warm day with a max of 23˚, a little rain late afternoon and no heavy downpours or thunderstorms as warned by the Meteobeeb, 14˚ by 9.30pm & feeling fresh. == M Lewis, agree that for us it was certainly a standard summer so far with some good hot days and we are actually still very dry here, nowhere near the rain that we could do with. On 09 Aug 2021, M Lewis wrote: BBC, ITV and Sky News are blaming the wet summer in the UK on climate change and global warming. They are saying heavy rainfall and floods are the result of a warming atmosphere caused by increased CO2 which makes extreme rainfall more likely, which in turn contributes to flooding. No mention that summer 2021 is a typical summer in the UK - wet and windy and thunderstorms; interspersed with a few short periods of hot dry weather. Also some of the pictures of Greece have been taken by cameras with an orange filter fitted to the lens making the sea and ferries look bright orange! On 07 Aug 2021, Paddy, Aberdeen South, sub, 130m elevation wrote: 15˚C at 7.30, overcast & feeling mild in a light SE’ly wind, occasional sunshine, max temp 20˚, cloudy afternoon, 15˚ at 8pm. On 06 Aug 2021, Paddy, Aberdeen South, sub, 130m elevation wrote: 14˚C at 7.30, rain from early on for a good part of the morning but not nearly as much as expected, so far no thunder, grey and misty all day with a NE’ly wind until 4pm when it turned into the S, max temp 17˚, dry afternoon, 16˚ at 8pm. I don’t often say this, but more rain would be welcome. On 05 Aug 2021, Paddy, Aberdeen South, sub, 130m elevation wrote: 14˚C at 7.30, cloudy with a fresh S’ly wind which gradually turned into the SE during the day, occasional sunny intervals with a max temp of 21˚, wind strengthening by afternoon, 16˚ at 8pm. == Rhys, while we don’t quite have the bumper harvest on every crop, this summer has been quite alright for us, so we seem to be living in a similar enclave to you - we don’t watch TV, that’s the secret :-) On 05 Aug 2021, Rhys Jaggar wrote: Drespite climate chaos an entirely normal and successful crop of Charlotte potatoes was harvested early this week. That appalling rain in May and July really harmed the potatoes dreadfully. Harvested Autumn King 'carrot thinnings' at 11 weeks after sowing and they were really of a good size already. Dreadful, this weather we are having. The world is dying but NW London is having a bumper harvest of all kinds of things this year.... On 04 Aug 2021, Paddy, Aberdeen South, sub, 130m elevation wrote: 13˚ at 7.30 with a light S’ly breeze and looking promising, very few clouds and brilliant sunshine all day with a max temp of 25˚. We had to re-sheet one of our tunnels, so this was the ideal day for the plastic to really stretch. Fresh S’ly breeze by afternoon, still 15˚ at 9.30pm. Lightning & thunder forecast for Friday & Saturday, but no yellow warning. Rain will be good for the garden. On 03 Aug 2021, Paddy, Aberdeen South, sub, 130m elevation wrote: 12˚C at 7.30 but bright sunshine from the start and heating up nicely to a max of 24˚, fresh S’ly wind keeping things agreeable, cumulus clouds bubbling up from time to time, sunny until evening, 17˚ at 8pm. On 02 Aug 2021, Paddy, Aberdeen South, sub, 130m elevation wrote: Been away for a few days near Dunkeld, which is almost the Deep South for us - certainly better growing conditions along the Tay, amazing trees, we only had Saturday that was really warm, up to 20˚, the rest was mostly cloudy & cool, especially today on our return, 12˚ at 9pm in a cold E’ly wind. On 30 Jul 2021, Rhys Jaggar wrote: The month of July coming to a close with regular heavy showers in NW London. No flooding for us, but soil moisture is being retained for much longer this summer than has been common in the 2010s. Plums and raspberries now in full harvest, along with dwarf beans, French climbing beans and the runners just about to become ready. All in all, a pretty average summer so far, which is no doubt why the BBC has to tell us all about terrible fires in Russia, Turkey and the USA. I'm sure no-one has heard of forest fires before....and nature has never used fire to weed out dying trees before, has it? Several trees hate fire so much that their seed cones only open after heat associated solely with fires. When will the green numpties realises that nature has factored fire into its stable ecosystem, even if humans are too thick to do so.....? Same with volcanic eruptions (anyone noticed how Mt St Helens' foothills reacted?)....same with floods fertilising the plains with alluvium. On 29 Jul 2021, Paddy, Aberdeen South, sub, 130m elevation wrote: 14˚C at 7.30, cloudy with a fresh NW’ly wind & some stronger gusts, haven’t had that for a while. Some sunshine during the morning but rain around midday, followed by a cloudy afternoon, max temp 19˚, wind abating by evening, 14˚ by 9pm. On 28 Jul 2021, Paddy, Aberdeen South, sub, 130m elevation wrote: 14˚C at 7.30, rain starting up and lasting for a good part of the morning, some of it heavy but still not enough to wet the soil to any great depth, still powder dry under leaf cover in the veg garden, light SE’ly breeze, dry and quite sunny afternoon but cloudier again by evening, max temp 22˚, down to 15˚ by 8pm. On 27 Jul 2021, Paddy, Aberdeen South, sub, 130m elevation wrote: 15˚C at 7.30, overcast with a light NE’ly breeze turning into the E later, some heavy but short overnight rain which wetted the soil about 5mm deep, also a few thunderclaps which woke us up, a few light showers in the morning but muggy & humid otherwise, max temp 20˚, much warmer inland according to visitors who were in Braemar, 17˚ at 8pm. On 27 Jul 2021, claude wrote: yeah Mark,i think the paper was trying to make an out for the GWs to help them save face since the only melting seems to be surface.Down here we are importing coal to generate power cos we arent getting enough rain to fill the lakes and all the so called green stuff is unreliable,and creates a greater carbon footprint than if we just burnt coal to generate the same power.nutter greenies.ideolgical.Then they want us all to put in heatpumps to use more power we cant generate.OH well. On 26 Jul 2021, Paddy, Aberdeen South, sub, 130m elevation wrote: 16˚C at 7.30, overcast with a light NW’ly wind which eventually turned into the S, intermittent sunshine after midday and feeling in turns muggy and cool, max temp 24˚, nice sunset in the NW, 18˚ at 9pm. On 25 Jul 2021, Paddy, Aberdeen South, sub, 130m elevation wrote: 12˚C at 7.30, sunny & not a cloud in sight, light but cool NE’ly breeze which changed into the SE’l sea breeze and then reverted to NE’ly by evening, max temp 24˚, some cloud moving in by late afternoon but still 20˚ by 8pm. On 25 Jul 2021, Mark Hall wrote: Claude, I think you will find that generally Antarctica has been gaining ice mass for the past couple of decades. Recently there has been some melting of the WA ice sheet, much trumpeted by the AGW religion, but this is actually related to increased undersea volcanic activity. The Sun's rays hit the poles very obliquely anyway. On 24 Jul 2021, Paddy, Aberdeen South, sub, 130m elevation wrote: 14˚C, overcast with a fresh SE’ly wind which lasted all day, we had to go inland to get some sunshine, though when we returned it was also sunny at home, max temp 21˚, warmer in sheltered places, 15˚ at 8.30pm, altogether a cooler day. On 24 Jul 2021, claude wrote: nearly managed15 yesterday and an o/n L of 1.7 completed a beautiful clear day for most of us ,and today is beginning the same minus the icing.forecast to precip later. finally a paper revealling that Ozone depletion is causing polar melt ,its not rocket science,if O3 blocks Uvb and other heating rays add the fact we burn much faster now hence all the sun block crap and its obvious the lack of O3 must be causing the earth to over heat and got nothing to do with our friend the CO2 .please show me an edible plant that doesnt need lots of it.stupid greenies need to get the facts not the ideology. On 23 Jul 2021, Paddy, Aberdeen South, sub, 130m elevation wrote: 15˚C at 7.30, overcast with a cool E’ly wind to begin with, brightening up only in the afternoon with a good bit of sunshine and a max temp of 22˚, still sunny by evening but with a cool SW’ly breeze, 17˚ at 8.30pm. On 23 Jul 2021, claude wrote: back down to the old stuff with a H of 13.1 yesterday followed by dropping temps as they took the blankets off and at 0600 we are 0.0 so ought to drop more by sun up.had 5mm rain over the last few days just to keep the ground soggy.when i was a kid spring always started in august then some idiot decided it began in sept but forgot to tell the plants and animals, that all work to the solar cycle, not our interpretation . On 22 Jul 2021, Paddy, Aberdeen South, sub, 130m elevation wrote: 15˚C at 7.30, high fog which lasted all day, with a cool NE’ly breeze, max temp 18˚, down to 16˚ by 8pm, July is on temporary leave, everything is very dry though. On 21 Jul 2021, Paddy, Aberdeen South, sub, 130m elevation wrote: 15˚C at 7.30, overcast with some fog, light NE’ly breeze to begin with, turning into the E once the sun broke through the murk by late morning, heating up to 24˚ in the wind but much warmer out of it, 19˚ at 8pm. The human world seems to be going to hell in a hand basket but we’re actually having real July. On 20 Jul 2021, Paddy, Aberdeen South, sub, 130m elevation wrote: 16˚C at 7.30, overcast with a light NE’ly, later E’ly wind, no sun today, max temp 21˚ and feeling muggy even in the cool wind, 16˚ by 8pm and very still & no midges, surprisingly. We’ve had lots of horseflies though, especially in our tunnels, that’s always a sign of real summer. On 20 Jul 2021, claude wrote: the weather has settled down again since the wet weekend allowing the cleanup to get going. our temps are dropping agin to H of 14 and L of 6 so almost back to normal just in time for the next lot to arrive after the weekend if the forecasts are somewhat right. On 19 Jul 2021, Paddy, Aberdeen South, sub, 130m elevation wrote: 15˚C at 7.30, sunny but with mist drifting in and out for a while, heating up thereafter but the SE’ly sea breeze kept things agreeably cool, max temp 24˚, sunny with clouds until evening, 21˚ at 8pm, proverbial balmy evening. On 19 Jul 2021, Rhys Jaggar wrote: Clearly my comment of 14/07 reached the weather engineers so we had 30C or close to it both days this weekend with prospect of very high 20s for another 4 days. Perfectly timed to prevent pod setting on the runner beans sigh. Watering can has finally been used (twice a day!) for the young radicchio, fennel, spring onion, lettuce, swede and cabbage. They talk of potential thundery showers the next few days, but we shall see. Heat should be good for tomatoes, squash and french beans. On 18 Jul 2021, Paddy, Aberdeen South, sub, 130m elevation wrote: 15˚C at 7.30, overcast with a WNW’ly breeze turning into the SE later, feeling quite a bit cooler but still a few warm sunny spells with a max of 24˚, fresher and cloudier again by mid afternoon, 16˚ at 8pm. On 17 Jul 2021, Paddy, Aberdeen South, sub, 130m elevation wrote: 21˚C at 7.30, quite bright and clear to start with, some clouds later with a WNW’ly wind that brought agreeable cooling to an otherwise repeat performance of yesterday, max temp only a degree short of yesterday’s high at 29˚, occasional cloud providing a bit of cooling, still 19˚ at 9pm. Supposedly it will rain by tomorrow afternoon, but I still have my doubts. On 17 Jul 2021, claude wrote: Parts took a hammering yesterday esp the lowlying areas that ought never have been built on,and now we'll have to listen to all the not quite right data to uphold their views.records broken but only in living memory.we've heard it all before. Here we missed out on most of the rain getting only abt 9mm .temps stayed up with a H of 18.5 and a L of 11.3..0600 12 .5 with wind easing ,slowly. Another masive burst from the far side of the sun ought to serve as a warning to all. So lucky we arent in the firing line yet.Have been playing with Dendro the last few days and its always intriguing to see the years that only grow 2 or 3 cells of wood compared to the next which may have 15-20.so was it lack of co2 or warm moisture..About 250yrs ago we had,had very good growth for 40/50 yrs followed by 20-30yrs of 1/3rd or less the amount then back to very good growth, all before us bad Euros set foot on these shores in large numbers.But I dont need funding so can just tell it as the trees do. On 16 Jul 2021, Paddy, Aberdeen South, sub, 130m elevation wrote: 16˚C at 7.30, totally clear sky with a light W’ly breeze, the western horizon was a clear sharp line all day, something that happens very rarely as there are always clouds, warming up rapidly to a scorching 30˚, just one degree shy of the highest we’ve ever had here, all doors and windows open in the house to catch the pleasant breeze that blew all day, out with the dog in the evening in shorts and t-shirt which in Scotland normally means either death by midges or pneumonia, still a cracking 24˚ at 8.30pm. Everybody is making hay like crazy as the hot weather is set to continue. On 16 Jul 2021, claude wrote: our temp for the last few days has been steadily rising till o/n we reached 16.9 as a N flow drags down tropical air.they say originates over india and is coming via jetstream and dropping its moisture on the West coast, so flooding again with evacs.I see we missed a killer solar flare/eruption yesterday,hence being still able to write this,rather than considering how to live in a stone age again next year. we were lucky ,one day we wont be.they wont be able to blame co2 ,theyll wish we had more and much more ozone to filter all the extra uv.enjoy today. On 15 Jul 2021, Paddy, Aberdeen South, sub, 130m elevation wrote: 14˚C at 7.30, sunny from the word go and all day, light NW’ly breeze at first, then heating up to a max of 23˚ but this was soon tempered by the strong SE’ly sea breeze which felt quite cold in exposed parts, especially after working up a sweat in the garden, still a brilliant day though, cool evening, 15˚ at 8.30pm. On 14 Jul 2021, Paddy, Aberdeen South, sub, 130m elevation wrote: 15˚C at 7.30, cloudy but bright with a cool NW’ly breeze at first, getting brighter by mid morning, wind changing into the S and temps quickly rising to a whopping (for us) 28˚ max, blue sky abounding with beautiful cirrus formations, balmy evening with 24˚ at 8pm, positively mediterranean. == Rhys, very dry with us, had to water the tatties the other day in order to ensure a proper harvest. We’ll likely have our first small meal of climbing French beans tomorrow, first cucumber expected next week, both in the tunnel, of course. On 14 Jul 2021, claude wrote: a sunrise Low of -3.1 took a long while to thaw till a H of 11.8 as a new set of NW slowly arrived. o/n it yoyoed between 8/9 with a increasing NW. 0600 8.9. On 14 Jul 2021, Rhys Jaggar wrote: Another mighty deluge of rain on Monday evening (floods across many parts of the SE) means that I still haven't done any watering of any vegetables (apart from when transplanting out new plants) since the Solstice. I can't remember a better pea harvest than this year, courgettes are starting to flower, as are the pole beans and dwarf beans. I'm beginning to see why the 'traditional' vegetables to grow were successful decades ago: this summer has been totally unlike most of the 2010s - much wetter, much less major heat - so much better for beans, brassicas, peas etc. On 13 Jul 2021, Paddy, Aberdeen South, sub, 130m elevation wrote: 13˚C at 7.30, overcast with a cool NW’ly wind, brightening up late morning & warming to 20˚ max, sunny afternoon & evening, 17˚ in shelter at 8.30pm but still windy & cool elsewhere. On 13 Jul 2021, claude wrote: another cool day yesterday with a cold E blowing that had started life in some colder part.managed11.2H. 0600 L -2.5.so a reasonable frost On 12 Jul 2021, Paddy, Aberdeen South, sub, 130m elevation wrote: 15˚C at 7.30, thick fog and quite still until later in the morning when we got a steady light NE’ly breeze, brightening up soon enough with some good spells of warm sunshine, max temp 23˚, a bit more cloudy in the afternoon, 18˚ at 8pm. On 11 Jul 2021, Paddy, Aberdeen South, sub, 130m elevation wrote: 15˚C at 7.30, misty in a light SE’ly wind, brightening up by 10 with some good sunny spells, max temp 21˚ but we had to go inland to get some real sunshine, good growthy day though, mist creeping in again by evening and still 16˚ at 8pm. On 11 Jul 2021, claude wrote: o/n L of 2 followed a H of 9.8 with a cold E to remind us it is winter 0600 3.2 On 10 Jul 2021, Paddy, Aberdeen South, sub, 130m elevation wrote: 14˚C at 7.30, quite foggy and still, brightening up by 10 with some good spells of sunshine all afternoon with a max temp of 21˚, SE’ly breeze, haar drifting in again by late afternoon but not quite to us, milky & mild evening, 16˚ at 8.30pm. On 10 Jul 2021, claude wrote: Highs are hovering for short periods around 12/13 and Lows 4/5s with skittery misty drizzle due to a prolonged period of S/SE/SW that looks like hanging around for a fewdays yet.Very warm in the sun but always cold in the shade. On 10 Jul 2021, Ronan wrote: Tornadic activity https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/15540932/huge-twister-teeside-lincolnshire-storms/ Interesting On 09 Jul 2021, Paddy, Aberdeen South, sub, 130m elevation wrote: 13 ˚c at 7.30, overcast with a barely perceptible E’ly breeze, staying that way all day, max temp 17˚, foggy by evening, 14˚ at 9pm. July? On 08 Jul 2021, Paddy, Aberdeen South, sub, 130m elevation wrote: 14˚C at 7.30, overcast & still, light S’ly wind from mid-morning onwards, sun coming out only in the afternoon and with a nice bit of warmth, 21˚ max, cloudier by evening, 16˚ at 8.30pm. On 08 Jul 2021, claude wrote: o/n low of 0.7 abt 0530 ,now at 0600 ,1. with scattered cloud cover,and ice on vehicles.a bit of a NWly slight breeze.Had to go out side to check on the cloud and wind as i didnt believe the machine.Brought back memories of 3am and 6am synops in the backcountry and how quiet it was alone on a hilltop with only natures sounds.A SW is forecast to arrive later and cold enough to snow,in the higher parts if it precips. On 07 Jul 2021, Paddy, Aberdeen South, sub, 130m elevation wrote: 13˚C at 7.30, overcast with bits of rain and a light NW’ly breeze, suddenly brightening up before midday and turning really warm, 20˚ max, variable amounts of cloud, occasional spots of light rain, altogether feeling a bit closer to July, cloudy evening, 15˚ at 8.30 with a light W’ly breeze. On 07 Jul 2021, claude wrote: temps hovered around between 7 and 9 o/n 8at 0600 and the odd shw dropped 1.2mm since midnight.was reading abt the largest hailstone in texas 6.4 in and 1.29lb.also how while they have had a heatwave on the US west the East was 20f below ave and record cold futher E.but cold is not to be mentioned in our new world only heat.no bias is there. On 06 Jul 2021, Paddy, Aberdeen South, sub, 130m elevation wrote: 12˚C at 7.30, overcast and still with occasional bits of brightness, dry all morning but light rain setting in after midday and continuing all afternoon in a light NE - NW’ly breeze. 18˚ max despite the cool feel, 13˚ at 8.30pm. On 06 Jul 2021, claude wrote: ystdy H15.2 ,o/n L 8.6 around 8pm then as the cloud did its thing the temprose to15 then down to 9.6 then up to 14 then down to 10.7 at 0600..rainfall was 2.1mm. On 05 Jul 2021, Paddy, Aberdeen South, sub, 130m elevation wrote: 14˚C at 7.30, another foggy day with an E’ly wind blowing all day, feeling mild though with a max temp of 16˚, rain in the morning and again in the evening when it brightened up for a short while, 14˚ at 8pm. == Rhys, well, what would we do without a tunnel? Our pole beans will give us a first meal in about a fortnight, tomatoes have 2cmø fruit on the first truss, cucumbers climbing steadily, longest fruit about 3cm. Outside? Lettuce planted in early May only just heading, courgettes at last moving on, chicory looking good but with a long way to go etc. Reading your report I have a job keeping my veg envy in check :-)) On 05 Jul 2021, claude wrote: cool day ystdy,a mere 10.2 H and down to 1.3o/n ,the N cooled by the snow on the mtns. read a news report over the wknd, that 5000 racing pidgeons had vanished on a race in us. is the magnetic field changing so much they got lost ?? On 05 Jul 2021, Rhys Jaggar wrote: Some heavy downpours yesterday during showers giving NW London its first signficant rainfall of July. A wonderful pea harvest now in full swing, pole beans at the tops of the sticks and the brassicas planted out a fortnight ago have taken off well. Fruit already on the soil-based tomatoes and the second beetroot harvest will be ready in 10 days.Cherry harvest now complete and redcurrants underway. Apples look set fair for a bumper crop. For whatever reason, the dwarf beans have attracted black fly for the first time ever: none on the pole beans and we've not been short of water this summer. On 04 Jul 2021, Paddy, Aberdeen South, sub, 130m elevation wrote: 13˚C at 7.30, thick fog, E’ly breeze, heavy overnight rain, another murky day with only a bit of brightness around midday, we had to flee a few miles inland in order to get some sunshine and real warmth, at home we had a max of 19˚, maybe for 5 minutes, still foggy at night with 15˚ at 8pm. On 04 Jul 2021, claude wrote: lucky most figured that -2.2 was the low,and the - sign got missed. anyway o/n low of 0.6 was abt 8pm the its been warming up to 5.5 by 0600 as the next NW arrives. was just reading that the cc wallies are trying to sue those who they say have caused losses by polution.so i have to wonder if in the future when they finally have to admit it isnt co2 causing it, will the defendants be able to reverse the charge with interest..tho i doubt that the mainstreamm will ever be big enough to admit they got it so wrong and will continue to distort data to uphold their belief.so much like a few religious folk years ago. history repeating. On 03 Jul 2021, Paddy, Aberdeen South, sub, 130m elevation wrote: 14˚C at 7.30, foggy all day, bar a couple of hazy sunny interludes in the morning, not cold and only a light SE’ly breeze, max temp 18˚, back down to 14˚ by 8pm, which is still reasonably growths weather. Near the coast high pressure does not necessarily mean “fair” as it says on the old barometers. On 03 Jul 2021, claude wrote: ytdy 8 wasnt enough to melt the drifted snow in the high country [7-800m] nor the frosted road corners that see no sun over winter. back here [at 40m] 14 was the H and an o/n L of 2.2 has warmed to -1.7 at 0600 with grass -2.5.ought to be the last frost for a few days as a Low heads our way,from the next system rotating round the antarctic like teeth on a cog. On 02 Jul 2021, claude wrote: just an update? how does the airport temp increase to 0.5 from a low of -1.7 while here it is still -3.did a plane park with its exhaust blowing onto the area. or is it all the vehicles beginning to move and all the house fires stoking up.cant be the sun cos its just peaked over the ranges,and theres no wind.???? On 02 Jul 2021, Paddy, Aberdeen South, sub, 130m elevation wrote: 12˚C at 7.30, cloudy but quite sunny intermittently during the morning, light S’ly breeze, max temp 18˚ by early afternoon, cloudy later with the wind moving into the E and cooling, hill fog by evening, 14˚ at 8pm. On 02 Jul 2021, claude wrote: yesterdays L of -2.7 at sunrise was followed by a 3min H of 15.4 and 16 mins above 15. so if this is what has been happening all these years ,then no wonder the mets say we are warming with 3mins at a H and abt 18hrs in single digits .ave it out and the temp is 12.7 and we were only around that for a couple of hours and does not convey how cold it was most of the day.nor does it show the frost in shaded parts till 11am. I do recall that at manned sites they did take the temps every hr,but were they all counted before the ave was made.and there were only a few such sites for the whole country 0500 -2.2, 0545 -3.0 0600 -3.3 with sunrise still an hr or so away.another sunny cold day arriving On 01 Jul 2021, Paddy, Aberdeen South, sub, 130m elevation wrote: 10˚C at 7.30, sunny from the start though still with a cool NW’ly breeze. This didn’t stop temps rising to 22˚, we had people round for lunch in the garden and it was just like being on holiday. Still this evening, giving the midges a chance to let us know in no uncertain terms that they exist, beautifully sunny, 18˚ at 8pm. On 01 Jul 2021, claude wrote: 0500 and the temp is ---2.6 here -1 at the airport [too close to the heatsink runway and the city heat] 3 in the city,so no point guessing why we have warming. -3 at waiouru the highest town in Nth Is. at 800m.. .so funny but sad to sit back and watch the desperation of those who have decided that the earth is warming from co2.we are importing coal to generate power cos not enough rain is falling and the greenies want to close our coal feilds.oh well.time will no doubt fix what they stuff up.we can but hope. On 30 Jun 2021, Paddy, Aberdeen South, sub, 130m elevation wrote: 10˚C at 7.30, drizzle, overcast with a cold NNW’ly wind that went on all day, but by midday the clouds lifted and we had a very sunny afternoon & evening, max temp 21˚, still 18˚ at 8pm & feeling warm in the sun. On 29 Jun 2021, Paddy, Aberdeen South, sub, 130m elevation wrote: 11˚C at 7.30, foggy above us and staying grey all morning in a cool N’ly wind, brightening up after midday and warming to a max of 20˚ but by late afternoon it greyed out again and by evening a strip of brightness was seen on the western horizon, meaning that further inland it would have been warm, 13˚ by 8pm, wind still going. On 28 Jun 2021, claude wrote: 5.3 at 0600 and a lot calmer after a windy day ystdy.got 51mmfrom the system and now snow is forecast to 400m today round here, but wont be much .looks to be about 100mm down sth. On 28 Jun 2021, Paddy, Aberdeen South, sub, 130m elevation wrote: 13˚C at 7.30, sunny morning with intermittent cloud & warming up nicely to a max of 21˚, cooling SE’ly sea breeze in the afternoon, overcast but mild by evening, 16˚ at 8pm. On 27 Jun 2021, Paddy, Aberdeen South, sub, 130m elevation wrote: 13˚C at 7.30, quite sunny and still but with clouds coming and going, SE’ly breeze getting up during the morning and turning quite cold at times during the afternoon, though we still had a max temp of 20˚, sunny, still & mild end to the day with 16˚ at 8pm. On 26 Jun 2021, Paddy, Aberdeen South, sub, 130m elevation wrote: 9˚C at 7.30, overcast and still windy from the N but gradually abating during the day, max temp 17˚, a little bit of sunshine at the end of the afternoon, quite still by evening, 13˚ at 8.30pm. On 26 Jun 2021, claude wrote: a warm nightwith precip.didnt drop below 14 after 16H yesterdy and 21mm over nite mostly after 3am. snow forcast to 1000m mon in nth Is and 900m tues .be good forthe ski feilds,but then the Northerlies return .had so many N winds this season. On 25 Jun 2021, Paddy, Aberdeen South, sub, 130m elevation wrote: 9˚C at 7.30, strong & cold N’ly wind, frequent light rain showers but also a few short sunny spells during the morning, max temp 14˚, still windy by evening with some powerful gusts, 10˚ by 8pm. On 25 Jun 2021, claude wrote: temps been hovering around 12 for the last 12hrs as a new batch of weather slowly drifts in ahead of some colder stuff on monday and cold enough for a bit of snow to lower levels if it precips too.the 3day map looks hopeful for some and not quite so good for the rest.we'll see by tues who got what. On 24 Jun 2021, Paddy, Aberdeen South, sub, 130m elevation wrote: 17˚c at 7.30, warm and still to begin with, then an agreeable SW’ly breeze and heating up under a strong sun during the morning to a max of 28˚, hottest so far this summer, can’t go much higher here as we are too close to the sea. Clouding over quickly after 2pm, first pulse of light rain setting in by 3pm, heavier stuff by 5pm and still going now, we’re certainly needing it, we were considering irrigating our tatties, it’s been so dry, 12˚ at 8pm. On 23 Jun 2021, Paddy, Aberdeen South, sub, 130m elevation wrote: 15˚C at 7.30, quite sunny for most of the morning with temps rising nicely to a max of 23˚ in a fresh but not cold S’ly wind, clouding over in the afternoon with a few drops of rain around 6pm, still 17˚ at 8pm, more like June again. On 23 Jun 2021, claude wrote: o/n L0.4 and frosty but back up to 5,8 by 0600 as the cloud rolls in from the next NW frontal system.Waiouru in thecentral high country is -3 and some precip is forecast by afternoon /evening. if the ozone map is reliable then there is still a hole lurking over antarctica ,probably due to NZ being the 6th largest user of o3 depleting chemicals for treating the logs overseas forest owners take. On 23 Jun 2021, Rhys Jaggar wrote: An amusing report on the TV of how several SE England weather stations recorded higher maxima at the Winter Solstice 2020 than they did on the Summer Solstice 2021. 13 and bits the pair of them, but 13 and little bits 2 days ago and 13 and bigger bits six months ago. We're back to a pleasant 20C today, but cooler weather may be upon us again at the end of the week. On 22 Jun 2021, Paddy, Aberdeen South, sub, 130m elevation wrote: 5˚C overnight, 8˚ at 7.30, light but cold W’ly breeze, brilliant sunshine all day, SE sea breeze after 10 which kept the whole day rather cool away from shelter, max temp 18˚. Still quite windy at 8.30pm with 15˚. On 22 Jun 2021, claude wrote: yep winter is back on the menu down here .a S.ly kicked in yesterday and cleared off the fluffy blanket and dropped the temp at 0600 to 0.8 so frosty,after a mostly clear day, spoiled by a few drops of precip in the late pm and evening that the met thought might spoil a nice day.we like to give the met a hard time but they dont do such a bad job down here,they"re just hampered by lack of money to get enough radar out there ,and a belief system that doesnt let them explore other so called "fringe thinking" but that are more forward thinking than what they are allowed to think.What really drives the weather ?The SUN so explore the connection, every $ spent chasing the fairy co2 is wasted. On 21 Jun 2021, Paddy, Aberdeen South, sub, 130m elevation wrote: 9˚C at 7.30, sunny but cold in the NW’ly wind, max temp 18˚, dry with barely a trace of last night’s rain, 12˚ at 8.30pm. == M Lewis, yes, well I’m glad I don’t have to grow vegetables in the Highlands! On 21 Jun 2021, M Lewis wrote: A frost is forecast in parts of Scotland tonight on the Summer Solstice! Claude and Paddy - this is yet more indication of a fast approaching Little Ice Age. As I posted before, it will be most interesting to see how winter pans out Down Under, now they are entering it. Summer in the UK is promising a washout, interspersed with a few hot sunny days here and there. On 20 Jun 2021, Paddy, Aberdeen South, sub, 130m elevation wrote: 13˚C at 7.30, overcast with a W’ly breeze, staying that way all day with a max of 17˚, some rain by late afternoon & feeling much cooler after that. 11˚ at 10pm. On 20 Jun 2021, claude wrote: a little bit of rain o/n from a low that is passing to the N of here and left a trail of carnage from a tornado in auckland.1 dead and 60+ houses wreaked.was suprised to hear we get on ave 1-10 tornadoes /year.i do rem.a couple close by as a schoolkid ,one skirted round dads house after taking the roof off the neighbours sheds,and wrapping a sheet of iron round a tree next door, and some areas are more prone to them too. the L dropped a bit extra rain over the east coast again, closing roads and flooding some parts. we hear much more of flooding these days because we have a tendency to like building on flat ground and flat ground is generally the result of past flooding.we are slow learners .. On 19 Jun 2021, Paddy, Aberdeen South, sub, 130m elevation wrote: 13˚C at 7.30, quite sunny with a continuing cold E’ly wind but also intermittently cloudy, max temp 20˚, completely overcast by evening 11˚ by 11pm. Dry though and getting drier every day. On 18 Jun 2021, Paddy, Aberdeen South, sub, 130m elevation wrote: 11˚C at 7.30, feeling considerably cooler than yesterday in the NE’ly wind that eventually turned into the E. A mostly sunny day and quite warm out of the wind with a max of 20˚, but the minute the sun disappeared behind some passing clouds it felt downright cold, same in the shade of trees, amazing contrast. 14˚ at 8.30pm. == Rhys, your growth reports are always interesting, if only for the enormous difference between you and us. Our apples are only just blooming, not sure whether we get anything at all off them this year, we really are in an exposed location, mitigated only by the 1000s of trees we’ve planted around the farm almost 30 years ago. On 18 Jun 2021, claude wrote: barely managed a H of 12 yesterday then a Lof 6 and now 8.6 at 0600 and a weekly total of 34mm keeping everything sodden with no chance to mow the lawn.another lot forecast to arrive late morning with a bit of the white stuff on the mtns. if you want to know what may transpire in the future click on Suspicious Observers and watch and then make up your own mind. On 18 Jun 2021, Rhys Jaggar wrote: The three weeks of hot dry weather in NW London now being decisively ended with 50mm+ and counting of continuous heavy rain. Jolly good for the soil, which was drying out to well below the surface the past week. First broad beans were harvested in 16th June, about 3 weeks later than last year and 10 days later than average for here. First batch frozen in a tub and today we had the first batch of freshly cooked beans of the season. Cherries are ripening on the tree as I speak, with the first pick probably on Sunday or Monday. Redcurrants are also turning red, so looking to be picked before the birds wolf them down. Apple trees thinned to one/two fruit per cluster before the rain came, so looking like a normal season on that front. On 17 Jun 2021, Paddy, Aberdeen South, sub, 130m elevation wrote: 13˚C at 7.30 but rising fairly quickly throughout the morning in the light SE’ly wind, occasional spells of clouds blocking out the sun but overall it was a warm day with a max of 24˚. The wind gradually shifted into the NE, so the 2nd half of the afternoon was rather cooler. Dry though, to the point where we might be glad for a downpour sometime, but great conditions for weeding effectively without having to remove the weeds, just let them wither where they fall. Still 17˚ at 8.30pm. Turned out warmer than forecast after all, always a bonus. On 17 Jun 2021, claude wrote: Gees Paddy ,thought you'd got crook,you are so regular and reliable.. the showers continue down here with temps still barely dipping below 10 ,today being the exception having dipped to 8.6 abt 0450 and struggling to get to 16 any day.the sat.pic showed a large mass of shower cloud all the way to tazzy.,yesterday. the Ozzies seem to be getting our normal winter weather .someone said their kids in the outback of Queensland were down to 2.4.and complaing at the cold. On 16 Jun 2021, Paddy, Aberdeen South, sub, 130m elevation wrote: We’ve been away in Nairn for a few days and contrary to our usual experience it was actually cooler up there than at home with a continuous strong SW’ly wind; on Sunday we had a max of 20˚ whereas at home it got to 27˚! The last two days have been pretty cool here with a max of 16˚ only but today it was rather better with 14˚ at 7.30 and a max of 22˚, mostly pretty cloudy with only a few sunny spells in a moderate SW’ly wind, temps for the next few days are not exactly flaming though, 16˚ at 8pm. On 15 Jun 2021, claude wrote: our spell of damp continues today,and tho down to 10 at the moment our H has not managed above 17 for a few days. no wonder we didnt hear much about the ozzy cold spell,their temps were 8deg below ave.so of course no one would want that broadcast too much would they,definately doesnt fit a warming planet model. On 14 Jun 2021, claude wrote: nothing exciting happening down here ,just a bit of rain here and there and no exciting temps either,and the usual places getting their normal bursts of heavier rain. And in the normal way, all will get fudged into normality by averaging to disguise the highs and lows that may look out of place otherwise.there is nothing like graphed raw data to show what is reality,but thats a big no no. besides one may be able to compare graphs with others and see the glaring truth. Sorry folks its too late for them to back out of their slide to the bottom,wishing they hadnt jumped on the downhill slop train. Greed and Befuddled Ideology,of the few noisy ones clamering for recognition,silencing the true scientists still doing good science.there are many but its hard to find their work.. history of many years back is repeating. On 12 Jun 2021, Rhys Jaggar wrote: Two weeks of glorious summer weather interspersed with one day of significant rain in early June here in NW London: no-one would know what sort of spring we had looking at my garden and allotment now. The beans are all planted out and thriving, ditto squash, leeks now all in the ground and the potatoes are roaring away. I thinned the apple trees for the first time this week and the big tree will need another go as there were so many clusters this year. Second cut of comfrey about to happen and finally we have some significant roots on the early beetroot. Carrots, parsnips, cabbage all growing brilliantly and we ate the first tomatoes of the season on 11th June. Only because a bird had taken a peck at it, mind you. It was orange, but I would have left a pristine fruit on the bush for a few days longer otherwise. On 10 Jun 2021, Paddy, Aberdeen South, sub, 130m elevation wrote: 17˚ at 7.30, brightish start but then clouding over quite a bit, strong but warm SW’ly wind, intermittent sunshine with a max of 24˚, bright end to the afternoon before clouds moving in again, 17˚ at 8.30pm. On 10 Jun 2021, claude wrote: so winter slowly passes by with not a lot of action yet in our part,1.5mm o/n of precip.from an o/n Lof 10 following on from a H of 18.5,after wednesdays L of 3.9...our news last nite said there would be more to come later on the snow in ozzy,but it never eventuated.so i guess just a brief mention was to silence those who would say they didnt say anything.strange how ideology warps human minds. On 09 Jun 2021, Paddy, Aberdeen South, sub, 130m elevation wrote: 15˚C at 7.30, cloudy but bright with a light SW’ly wind, light rain setting in by 9.30 and going on all morning under thicker cloud cover, feeling muggy though with a max temp of 20˚, that’s a bonus, brightening up by end of afternoon, lovely mild evening and still 19˚ by 8pm. On 08 Jun 2021, Paddy, Aberdeen South, sub, 130m elevation wrote: 14˚C at 7.30 with a light SW’ly wind, shaping up to be a cracking warm day with a max of 24˚, hottest so far this year and the wind had no cold sting in it, cloudy from time to time with long cirrus plumes by evening, still 17˚ by 8.30pm. On 07 Jun 2021, Paddy, Aberdeen South, sub, 130m elevation wrote: 13˚C at 7.30 and it’s back to foggy bottom again, haar rolling in off the sea all day in varying amounts, an hour of sunshine at 5pm which made the temperature rise to 16˚ max but then foggy again, all in a fresh SSE’ly wind, 13˚ at 8pm. On 06 Jun 2021, Paddy, Aberdeen South, sub, 130m elevation wrote: 13˚C at 7.30, cloudy with a light cool N’ly breeze that strengthened and turned into the ENE by late morning, intermittently sunny and warm but cool in the cloudier intervals, max temp 21˚, down to 13˚ by 8pm. Warmer temps forecast from Tuesday. On 05 Jun 2021, claude wrote: a in accurate H of 17,9 was followed by an o/n L of 4.4 and an 0600 5.8 .next raindrops forecast for late today but not much for us ,lots for other places. Paddy have you seen all the others who used to make interesting reports on this blog.they havent got coved have they? On 04 Jun 2021, Paddy, Aberdeen South, sub, 130m elevation wrote: 12˚C at 7.30, not a shred of fog, sunny & clear with temps rising rapidly, cooling W’ly wind later turning into the S, max temp a whopping (for us) 23˚, slightly cooler by evening but still 14˚ at 9.30pm. Good warmth forecast for the next week. On 04 Jun 2021, claude wrote: back to the drudgery of days the same cool days, cooler nites some cloudy some clear. boreing weather ,nothing to sit up and take notice of.the airport says 4c the city 9 c and my stn 3.8.at 0600 so i guess one of us is nearly right,probly the airport. On 03 Jun 2021, Paddy, Aberdeen South, sub, 130m elevation wrote: 11˚C at 7.30, foggy earlier on but brightening up quickly to a warm morning cumulating in 19˚ by midday, clouding over by mid afternoon and feeling quite cold for a couple of hours, but then the SSE’ly wind stopped and we had a sunny end to the day with barely a breeze and no hair for the first time in a week, pure bliss, 13˚ at 8.30pm. On 03 Jun 2021, claude wrote: ystdy was an almost cloudless day till lat afternoon with a H 16.9 followed by o/n L of 6.9 then rising about 2am to 9.7 to drop again to 7.6 then rise by 0600 to 8.1 .looking at the graph is like looking at a dendro graph of many years growth rings . On 02 Jun 2021, Paddy, Aberdeen South, sub, 130m elevation wrote: 11˚C at 7.30, foggy until 8, then brightening up to a warm day with a max of 20˚, out of the SSE’ly sea breeze as always, clouding up after midday before the haar came back in by 3 and turned the air cold, 11˚ by 9pm. On 02 Jun 2021, claude wrote: the 3rd official day of our winter dawns .many of us would be quite pleased if the co2 theory worked and it did indeed warm us,esp when the clouds clear and the temps plummet. these auto weather stns show all too clearly how from a H of 16.7 yesterday the temp continuously dropped and is still dropping from 0.9 at 5am to 0.3 at 0600 and by sunrise will be no doubt in the negitive range.Winter. and i see on our news that uk finally got a sunny day to go swimming.enjoy the moment. On 01 Jun 2021, Mark Hall wrote: Claude, don't worry. I doubt that anyone else thought you lacked any compassion. Or would leap at the chance to display their own virtue over such an innocuous weather report. Not many are that much up themselves. On 01 Jun 2021, Paddy, Aberdeen South, sub, 130m elevation wrote: 9˚C at 7.30, misty but bright and turning into a very sunny day with a max temp of 20˚ by afternoon, out of the constant SSE’ly sea breeze that is, by which time the haar was visible as a grey wad on the cost but it only found its way to us by 7pm, so we’ve had a great day, 12˚ by 8pm. On 01 Jun 2021, claude wrote: disasters always bring out the two sides of humanity ,the greed and the selflessness.those who up their prices to make the most and those who think of others and lend a hand.IF only humanity could get past the pathetic notion that co2 is bad we could get on with fixing the other things that need fixing,where we have stuffed up,far more important things. ystdy we finally got to 16 then droped to a o/n L of 3.5 back up to 4.9 at 0600.. there is a covering of snow on the N I mts but as the saying goes 'snow in may doesnt stay snow in june is snow too soon' so time will show if this yr follows the pattern. On 31 May 2021, Paddy, Aberdeen South, sub, 130m elevation wrote: 9˚C at 7.30 with the by now obligate fog and SSE’ly wind, the sun was more hesitant in coming out during the morning, but we had a good sunny afternoon with a max temp of 16˚ and by evening the haar kept closer to the coast and we were clear, 11˚ at 8pm, feeling cold in the wind. On 31 May 2021, claude wrote: weather watchers almost always refer to abnormal events as excitement/action, including those who are under the weather.i suspect those who dont havent prepared either mentally or physicaly.but each to their own.An older weatherforecaster i knew was always excited by some action,saying hed sit in a plane experiencing turbulance and calculate how big the disturbance was they were passing through. we managed 11.7mm as our share of the rain,after an o/n Lof 0.2,and yestdy H of 22.6 was followed by an o/n L of 5.2 rising to 7.4 by 0600. On 31 May 2021, M Lewis wrote: Yes Claude - our news is reporting New Zealand South Island rain as a once in a 100 year deluge. https://news.sky.com/story/flooding-forces-hundreds-from-their-homes-in-new-zealand-12321218 More signs of the rapidly coming Little Ice Age. On 31 May 2021, Lorraine wrote: @Claude - You might refer to the rain in the Canterbury region as "some excitement" but those affected by the flooding wouldn't see it that way. Would you feel the same if severe weather affected your area in the Manawutu? I doubt it. Have a bit of compassion for others. On 30 May 2021, Paddy, Aberdeen South, sub, 130m elevation wrote: 10˚C at 7.30, foggy with a SSE’ly breeze that persisted all day, brightening up after 9.30 leaving us with another mostly sunny day with the odd haar incursion, 17˚ max, fog creeping in again after 7, 12˚ at 8pm. Well, at least it’s dry. On 30 May 2021, claude wrote: the last few days have seen some excitement down the south island,with a L of 984mb, off the NW driving a bit of precip into the E side of S island dropping 400mm in 28hrs in some parts and still ongoing but easing .some flooding has occured but full extent not known yet,with evacuations. of interest is a comment that china has reported that half the temp rise is due to urban heatsink.NO REALLY who would have guessed that??? here we are normal with an overnite Lof 0.8 so more frost. On 29 May 2021, Paddy, Aberdeen South, sub, 130m elevation wrote: 11˚C at 7.30, still foggy but clearing slowly and leaving us with a beautiful sunny day with a max temp of 18˚ here but 21˚ further inland away from the cold SE’ly sea breeze. We were literally too hot for a time on our Saturday outing, and slightly disconcerted as we don’t know how to cope with that anymore :-). The haar was never far away, occasionally wrapping us in grey but then retreating again, spectacular to watch that happening, 11˚ at 8pm. First time in many years that we’ve had to keep the CH on this far into May. On 28 May 2021, Paddy, Aberdeen South, sub, 130m elevation wrote: 10˚C at 7.30, overcast with a NE’ly wind bringing in thick haar for much of the morning, short brightish spell after midday, max temp 16˚, fog rolling in again by early evening, typical east coast high pressure conditions, 10˚ at 8pm. == Rhys, interesting comments re tomatoes. As for apple blossom, ours are only just coming out. We also grow our toms from seed, starting in the propagator late February, we only just planted them out in our 12’ tall veg tunnel, along with the climbing French beans, cucumbers will maybe go in at the end of next week. Hoping that we get a light filled summer even if temps aren’t that brilliant. On 27 May 2021, Paddy, Aberdeen South, sub, 130m elevation wrote: 10˚C at 7.30 with a cool NW’ly wind that gradually turned into the NE and then SE, cloudy morning, brightening up after midday to an amazingly blue sky, feels like we haven’t seen that for ages, and a max temp of 17˚. The fresh wind generally kept things cooler than that but it was actually possible to work without a coat, 12˚ by 8pm. On 27 May 2021, claude wrote: 1.8 at 0600 airport says 0. so frosty again but rain forcast by pm. Paddy,forgot your in the dark longer than us so yeah lights needed. M Lewis ,once a lie has been told many more have to be told to try to cover up the first and when it becomes obvious they lied panic sets in and that is what i see happening in the phoney science world PANIC.the weather isnt doing what they modeled so they are trying desperately to put in place the coverup.they must blame co2.because they think .04% of the atmosphere is something theycan alter.they cant do much about the sun.its too big for their tiny one track minds.and the manufacturers are laughing all the way to the bank On 27 May 2021, Rhys Jaggar wrote: Finally, two days in a row of pleasant spring weather and nights close to 10C. Potatoes are finally all through and the broad beans are enjoying a growth spurt. Maincrop carrot germination on schedule this week and the first dwarf beans went into the soil this morning after germination indoors. The final blossoms now gone from the apple trees (much later than usual) and all the fruit trees (pear, plum, cherry and apple) look set to have a good number of fruit growing this summer. The UHI here did us good this spring.... On 27 May 2021, Rhys Jaggar wrote: Paddy Tomatoes outdoors in NW London has been successful every year in the past 9, but we are 2-3C warmer than you up near Aberdeen and we often get a period of 24-28C which is brilliant for accelerating tomato growth. I do sow my seeds and raise my young plants indoors - they usually end up outdoors from mid-May (not this year), coming indoors if there is the odd cold night if they are in pots. I tend to find I harvest my first tomatoes around the time of the Royal Welsh Show (late July) if I sow seeds around the spring equinox. For the autumn shows I exhibit in, I tend to sow late April and the plants go in a Quadgrow (basically a planter with a reservoir linked to the soil using capillary mats) late May (I'm doing that tomorrow this year). I've successfully grown bush tomatoes in the soil here the past two years, as well as cordon cherries and the odd cordon salad strain. This year, I'm trying some beefsteaks as well, although I am growing some in pots too as an insurance On 27 May 2021, M Lewis wrote: BBC and the Met Office are ramping up their man made global warming propaganda today. https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-57261670 They broadcast that "It's becoming more likely that a key global temperature limit will be reached in one of the next five years. A major study says by 2025 there's a 40% chance of at least one year being 1.5C hotter than the pre-industrial level". Surely it is time for Piers to broadcast his Solar / Lunar driven climate change model and the coming Little Ice Age. Start with Australia and New Zealand which did not have droughts/ heatwaves / massive wildfires during their Summer 2021 just passed. Then move on to the UK where there is no sign now of a repeat of Summer 1976. On 26 May 2021, Paddy, Aberdeen South, sub, 130m elevation wrote: 9˚C at 7.30, cool N’ly wind which blew all day, a few bits of brightness and a few showers in the morning and then overcast again, max temp 13˚, dry afternoon, 10˚ at 8pm. == Claude, thanks for that story, we would probably have to install lights as well because we have such long hours of darkness in winter. I may have mentioned before that there is a retired gent in Nebraska who grows grapes, citrus fruit etc in a poly carbon green house half sunk into the ground and heated simple by pipes in the ground providing the heat and spread throughout by a fan. On 26 May 2021, claude wrote: 0600 -0.4air temp dewpoint-2.5 frost on everything.and a great fullmoon to go with it . On 25 May 2021, Paddy, Aberdeen South, sub, 130m elevation wrote: 9˚C at 7.30, cold NE’ly wind, some more overnight rain but none today, nice change. A few hours of warm sunshine in the afternoon with a max temp of 13˚ on account of the wind, clouding over big time by early evening, wind continuing, 9˚ at 8pm. On 25 May 2021, claude wrote: Paddy,a farmer down here up in the high country wanted to grow tomatoes ,so he ran a pipe from his hot water out to the front porch and ran it through the soil of a box garden there and grew toms all winter.reckoned since he had the coalrange going 24/7 he might as well use the hot water. down to 5.1 this morning,6at the airport and 9 in town so as ive said before they will ave the city and airport temps and get a higher one to support their gw /cc ideology On 24 May 2021, Paddy, Aberdeen South, sub, 130m elevation wrote: 8˚C at 7.30, NE’ly wind turning into the S during the morning, heavy rain overnight, back to very wet again, not much rain during the day though, max temp 12˚, light rain again by 8pm, 9˚ by then. On 23 May 2021, Paddy, Aberdeen South, sub, 130m elevation wrote: 5˚C overnight, 9˚ at 7.30, quite bright to begin with but then clouding over but staying dry with a max temp of 13˚ at home but much colder and windy at the foot of the Angus glens where we visited friends, not much different from February but with leaves on the trees, 9˚ at 8pm. Having to resow my chicory because of seed compost failure, hope I’m not too late and that we get a reasonable summer. ==Rhys, tomatoes outside? Unimaginable here in my wildest dreams, tried it in 1976, naively thinking that was the shape of summers to come (remember the drought minister Denis Howell?) and was rapidly corrected by reality. On 23 May 2021, claude wrote: nothing quite like wind to do damage to most stuff.the low off the E is producing waves on shore up to 10m,gusts up to120k and huge swells, flooding roads.some parts can expect heavy rain too. Over the W we ve got their leftovers.windy all nite,temps hovered in the 10-13 range all ystdy and over nite.our L of 10.1 not far from a H of 12.9 and the cold E'ly not warming anyone. On 22 May 2021, Paddy, Aberdeen South, sub, 130m elevation wrote: 5˚C at 7.30, cold N-NW’ly breeze but bright even with the amount of cloud that slowly built up to flat bottomed shower producers that shed their cargo every now and then, max temp 13˚, big improvement on yesterday, 9˚ at 8pm, quite still, so the midges were out in force, they don’t seem to mind the cold too much. On 22 May 2021, claude wrote: where has everyone gone?. if you were down these parts i could understand . weve managed to attract a subtropical low to our NE parts so the winds most places a are above 20k and heading higher with heavy rain forcast for the E and N .the rest are stuck under a resident H.0600 temp 10.5 wind 24k SE gusting into late 30s.ystdy H barely made 14 and windchill made everyone complain about the lazy wind. On 22 May 2021, Rhys Jaggar wrote: Andy B - we had 245mm in October 2020 and I'm in NW London, which is normally much drier than your neck of the woods! More sadly, the gale the past 24hrs has sliced straight through one of my pot-grown tomato plants (luckily I have back ups still indoors), ripped off the fleece I put over tomato and courgette plants I transplanted out (the tomatoes survived, looks like the courgettes copped it). Still no sign of any warmth here, May is going to be another month much cooler than recently. On 21 May 2021, Paddy, Aberdeen South, sub, 130m elevation wrote: 7˚C at 7.30, driving rain brought in on a strong E’ly, eventually N’ly, all day and by 8pm we had 5˚! I’ve just looked up my comments from May 2013 - this year’s May is definitely worse, so little sunshine, so much murk. On 21 May 2021, claude wrote: calm as a millpond out there this morning and temps to go along.from a H of 14.9 we gradually slid to 3 at 0600 with grass at 2 but no ice as yet anywhere. had a fluffy blanket of cloud most of yesterday so was cool all day. On 21 May 2021, Andy B 45D wrote: Just emptied 110mm out of rain gauge, that's 218 mm so far this month with at least another 30/50 mm to come GSM On 20 May 2021, Paddy, Aberdeen South, sub, 130m elevation wrote: 8˚C at 7.30, strong E’ly wind, dull and cold all day with a max temp of 10˚, a few spells of rain but not as much as expected, 8˚ at 8pm. Our children won’t know what May used to be like… On 20 May 2021, claude wrote: Rhys we even have a minister for climate change but hes been very quiet for a long time.even the opposition,are so quiet,no one knows they are there.they all sold out to the cc gang so they look silly if now they change their mind .BUT the weather will win anyway no matter what they want.sit back and enjoy the show. our H of 18.2 was followed by a o/n Lof 8.6 and now at 0600 we are back to 11.1 and a 8k breeze On 20 May 2021, Rhys Jaggar wrote: George Whitbread It's the new way the BBC is pushing Global Warming. They've taken an absolute hammering recently concerning all their failed scaremongering predictions, so what they are doing is moving to the arena of sports, where most sports professionals are absolutely ignorant about science, but command a large social media presence. Why anyone would listen to Joe Root about climate change is beyond me. They wouldn't pick me for the England Test side, so why pick Root for the national climate advisory panel? We are both equally unqualified for the roles ascribed above... On 19 May 2021, Paddy, Aberdeen South, sub, 130m elevation wrote: 8˚C at 7.30, another dull day with a N-NE’ly breeze, rain around midday but dry afternoon with a max temp of 12˚, low light and cold are the hallmarks of this month, 8˚ at 8pm. On 19 May 2021, claude wrote: 0600 11.2c o/n L 10.5 ..wind has finally dropped to single digs for awhile and yestdy H of 16 was great out of the wind. On 19 May 2021, George Whitebread wrote: Just when you thought claims about the impact of climate change couldn't get any sillier, we get this. On the BBC website yesterday a story about how the football world cup of the future might look as a result of AGW. |Games shortened to 60 mins and divided into 20 min thirds, bigger squads to allow for rolling substituions for heat exhausted players and it would all happened inside a temperature controlled indoor stadium. Today we get told how Test Cricket might not be possible in some countries due to ''soaring temperatures''. The positive side of all of this is we get a new metric by which to judge climate change so when these games carry on as normal we can ask ''what happened to these heat mitigation plans''? did they befall the same fate as snow being a thing of the past?? You have to laugh. Such a shame there are people who will believe it. On 18 May 2021, claude wrote: 0600 temp a balmy 13.6c wind NNW 34k gusting 40s. o/n L 12.3 windy all night after a windy yesterday . eaked out a H of 14.3c .highest gust 80k.and they got their snow down sth On 18 May 2021, Andy B 45D wrote: Sorry Piers but the PRECIPITATION % and sunshine % are wrong so far for May we have had 155mm here so far and you have us for 50-65% in our area in SE Wales and the sunshine% is way too optimistic On 18 May 2021, Rhys Jaggar wrote: The deluge of heavy showers in May continues apace in NW London. Every day we get significant rain and the spring is a totally different one to anything we have seen for several years. No watering necessary and finding a window to cut grass is for the first time in many years now a real issue. A lack of sunshine and cool temperatures. Now we are promised a gale at the end of the week. Hey ho! On 17 May 2021, Paddy, Aberdeen South, sub, 130m elevation wrote: 8˚C at 7.30, very sunny start and mostly sunny morning with a cool S’ly wind, max temp 16˚ by midday but then clouds moved in from the SW and by 3pm we had a hefty downpour that lasted for about an hour, markedly cooler feel to temps even though we still had 11˚ at 8pm. No great warmth in sight but first potatoes are through now. == Claude: winter here still has a foot in the door... On 17 May 2021, claude wrote: 0600 12.2c moderate rain .11.8 c o/n L 16.9 H yestdy . heard it raining abt 5am and 3.6mm so far. forcasting heavy snow in parts down sth island with passes closed. winter announcing its arrival. On 15 May 2021, Paddy, Aberdeen South, sub, 130m elevation wrote: 8˚C at 7.30, overcast and completely still though a SE’ly sea breeze started picking up late morning and when the sun came out by midday the breeze really got going, providing a cool backdrop to the warm sunshine, max temp 15˚, sunny evening with 8˚ at 8pm. On 15 May 2021, claude wrote: yesterdays H of 17.3 was followed down to 8.7 at 0600.under a mostly clear sky still holding a bit of warmth from the NWer of yesterday. the sun has a lot to answer for in weather/climate,and just read how the cicadas have delayed their emergence in US due to prolonged cold.they cant have heard yet that we are warming,or so we are told. On 15 May 2021, Mark Hall wrote: China and India are in the Northern Hemisphere and their aerosols are unlikely to be powering any ozone loss over Antarctica. Stratospheric cooling is the usual culprit. And we have entered a period of reduced solar activity. On 14 May 2021, claude wrote: M Lewis ,i had heard that the Chinese had found a few companies still producing CFCs and were going to deal with them,in their own way. our temps were all over yesterday from 6 min at 15.9 to a Low of 3.2 around 9pmthe back up slowly to 9.7 at 0600 then 15.5 by 0700 and the promised rain early morning of 0.6 mm.we missed the heaver stuff. Bro in Brisbane said on tues they had hail 50mm Diam out Ipswich way part of a 400km line of storms . On 14 May 2021, Paddy, Aberdeen South, sub, 130m elevation wrote: 8˚C at 7.30, overcast with a light N’ly breeze, no sunshine of note today, just a couple of short brighter spells, max temp 12˚,9˚ at 8pm. The cold is one thing but the low light factor really doesn’t help, too many dark days for good plant growth, our grass looks thin and stunted, neighbours about to move cattle in as they are beginning to run out of hay & silage. Rhys, quite right about 2013, we had a really hot March and then wham! the cold & wet hit big time. On 14 May 2021, M Lewis wrote: Claude - the reason why your Ozone Hole is persistent over Antarctica and the Southern Hemisphere is ongoing industrial and factory pollution from China, India, Indonesia and Australia. That will not change anytime soon! Of course your Government and NDOs just like ours up here will blame its own citizens and impose more and more CO2 taxes and restrictions on their lives. On 13 May 2021, Paddy, Aberdeen South, sub, 130m elevation wrote: 8˚C at 7.30, overcast & grey all morning with a light NE’ly wind, sun coming out by midday and giving us a max temp of 14˚, clouding over again by 4pm, fairly still by evening, 8˚ at 8pm. Cuckoo going calling madly in the woods around us, must be spring. On 13 May 2021, claude wrote: frosty again today clear sky and calm temps 0600 L 1.5 c after a Low of 1.4, grass -0.1.yesterdays high was all of 12c for 14mins with a cold SE wind all day, too lazy to go round so took the easy way straight thru.in the sheltered parts behind buildings the sun was nice but not warm enough to take off a jacket.. Paddy, take a look at the NASA ozone watch , maps and compare the N and S hemis.to help explain why your winter is slow departing and ours is slow arriving. got a feeling we are gonna need every bit of co2 we can get, to grow anything soon. try giving your plants extra co2 ,but part of the equation is the weakening sun as it does its cycling down.dont expect anything to improve for a long time.certainly not in our lifetime,unless your under 20y On 13 May 2021, Rhys Jaggar wrote: Andy B The garden is certainly behind here in NW London, but it varies from crop to crop. Broad Bean growth has been much slower this year than most of the past decade, whereas despite later sowing of parsnip seeds they seem about normal for me. Comfrey cutting is 10 - 14 days behind recent years and the early potatoes only mostly came through the past week, despite sowing around the equinox. Amazingly, the first maincrop potato plant, sown 3 weeks later, is already through before the last two early ones have appeared. Onion sets and garlic look normal, but the apple tree still has plenty of blossom on it, which is unusual for us around here. First lettuce leaves were harvested this week, a bit earlier than normal, but change of technique suggests I could have had earlier stuff in the past.. I would say it's a delayed growth spring, but no worse than 2013. On 12 May 2021, Paddy, Aberdeen South, sub, 130m elevation wrote: 8˚ at 7.30, overcast with a fresh NE’ly wind and frequent showers, one short but heavy hail shower, continuing grey all day with a foggy period in the afternoon, less windy by evening, 9˚ at 8pm. It was a bit difficult to figure which month of the winter we were in today. == Andy B: ditto, the only things in the ground are potatoes, carrots just showing, parsnips not showing yet. Some lettuce in the veg tunnel, I won’t put the tomatoes in there yet, I’ll wait till the last minute or they’ll just sit there not moving, meantime they are still in the propagator. Cucumbers & courgettes & climbing French beans only sown 10 days ago. On 12 May 2021, claude wrote: temps down to 6.7c at 0600 and mostly clear sky .read there is a CME impacting so those at high lats.may get to see the auroras if the sky is clear. On 12 May 2021, Andy B 45D wrote: April showers in May and my garden is at least a month behind as well, what is yours like? On 11 May 2021, claude wrote: the rain arrived over nite,9.5mm and temps are slowly dropping to 12 at 0600,as the SEly begins to make its presence felt.snow forcast to 600m down Sth and by this afternoon maybe on the N island mts later ,but not much ,the main front having past over . On 11 May 2021, Paddy, Aberdeen South, sub, 130m elevation wrote: 9˚C at 7.30, quite cloudy with a blustery & cool SW’ly wind but by 9 it brightened up and we had a very sunny day though not quite as warm as yesterday with a max of 17˚, rather fresher in the wind, still 12˚ at 8pm. Been listening to Clif High recently, he talks about 2041 as the start of the LIA, until then it’s all preparatory with the growing season getting shorter all the time. On 10 May 2021, Paddy, Aberdeen South, sub, 130m elevation wrote: 8˚C at 7.30, overcast all morning with a light SE’ly wind, brightening up after midday and turning into a very sunny and warm afternoon with a max of 19˚ even though the wind had a slightly sharp edge to it even as it turned into the S, 14˚ at 8pm, more like May. On 09 May 2021, Ron Greer wrote: first frost free night here since March 30th and some much needed rain yesterday--fast spurt of growth On 09 May 2021, Paddy, Aberdeen South, sub, 130m elevation wrote: 8˚C at 7.30, bright with a light W’ly breeze that turned into the S early on, dry and sunny all morning with a max temp of 18˚ (haven’t had that for a while), big dark clouds building up from the SW but only very little rain coming from them, still 11˚ at 8pm. First real spring day this month. On 09 May 2021, claude wrote: our warm spell continues with an o/n L of 17c, more like summer than late autumn but due to a Low that slid down the E of Oz and dragged some tropical air down,so yesterdays High was 21c.This sort of weather does help explain some of the treerings that dont show much winter wood but lots of late autumn wood,smaller cells and increased lignins and the random larger cells where it has been good growing weather for long enough to produce a large cell rather than a small flattened one,the result of cooler days as winter approaches.trees do keep a good record of past weather. On 09 May 2021, Rhys Jaggar wrote: Another good dose of much needed rain yesterday morning in NW London. Perfect germination of 60 parsnip stations within 1 sqm of growing area within 18 days after sowing on April 17th. The lack of heat this April was certainly beneficial to parsnip germination for whatever reason. First cut of comfrey started 7th May this year, about 10 days later than usual. Only 3 of 12 plants cut, the rest still need to grow a bit more. Asparagus cropping now well underway. On 08 May 2021, Paddy, Aberdeen South, sub, 130m elevation wrote: 2˚C overnight, 5˚ at 7.30, overcast, cold & strong SE’ly wind, dry morning, steady rain from midday onwards, max temp 8˚, foggy by 6pm, 6˚ by 8. On 08 May 2021, claude wrote: down here the weather has been boring for the last few days barely dropping below 12c or rising above 18c ,but all is maybe about to change with a litte precip forcast and a few drops already falling earlier than predicted,changing todays plans. just heard and saw on S O that Texas had hail 150mm Diam back in april.someone called them cryometeors.probly not the best thing coming for a visit via your roof and ceiling.i remember as a kid a loud clap of thunder and hail falling in jagged flat clumps 50mm wide made up of 10-12mm hailstone frozen together..thought that was fun but strange. On 07 May 2021, Paddy, Aberdeen South, sub, 130m elevation wrote: 4˚C at 7.30, sunny with a light NW’ly wind, towering cumulus clouds appearing during the morning but staying dry until 4pm when we had a hefty hail/rain shower, max temp 13˚, calm sunny evening with a light SW’ly breeze, 9˚ at 8pm. On 06 May 2021, Paddy, Aberdeen South, sub, 130m elevation wrote: 3˚C at 7.30, overcast with a light NW’ly wind which turned into the NNE by the end of a dry and occasionally sunny morning, max temp 10˚, heavy showers from mid to late afternoon, dry & sunny evening with spectacular clouds, 7˚ by 8pm, trees beginning to put their leaves out but not with a lot of enthusiasm. == Ron, we have a drainage issue, putting the digger bucket into the ground shows just how dry it still is under the surface in spite of all the rain & snow we’ve had this week. On 06 May 2021, Ron Greer wrote: more than an inch of snow lying this morning after a heavy fall in the wee sma' hoors, now sleety rain. The moisture is much needed. On 05 May 2021, Paddy, Aberdeen South, sub, 130m elevation wrote: 1˚C at 7.30, snowing merrily when I got up earlier, the last time I can remember having snow blowing down the back of my neck in May was around 1982. It didn’t stick & melted quickly, but still. Heavy snow showers with big wet flakes for most of the morning, interspersed with short burst of sunshine, again in a biting NW’ly wind. Max temp 10˚, drier afternoon and clear evening with 6˚ at 8pm. == Ron, ditto. If this is the shape of things to come a polytunnel will be indispensable for producing home-grown food. There is a retired guy in Nebraska growing grapes, peaches, lemons etc in a polycarbon greenhouse using ground heat, a video can be found online, big investment but amazing returns food-wise. On 05 May 2021, Ron Greer wrote: The latest Low coming in from the Atlantic at the weekend will bring only scant and brief relief in Scotland and it looks as if cold/cool northerlies are going to predominate for much of the rest of the month, much as they did in April. I cannot remember such a long spell of such northerlies and it being so dry at the same time. All it needs is for Katla in Iceland to erupt. On 04 May 2021, Paddy, Aberdeen South, sub, 130m elevation wrote: 5˚C at 7.30, overcast with frequent showers in a biting N’ly wind that kept going all day, some short hail showers after midday, max temp 8˚, some sunshine from mid afternoon onwards with continuing light showers, 5˚ at 8pm. This would do February or November proud. Still flocks of fieldfares flying around, saw a first whitethroat yesterday. On 04 May 2021, claude wrote: so our yoyo autumn is on the up yo with o/n temp hovering at 13c and briefly dipping to 12.9c with cloud cover doing all they blame co2 for. 10 min at 16.1c was our high around 4pm the rest of the day was in the 13-15c range,with an unregisterble shower or 2 abt 5am. I am still intrigued by the' NASA ozone watch' and wonder why the N hemi has far more O3 than the S hemi.we have so little one could almost say the whole hemi was very depleted, in fact yesterdays pic showed tinges of purple still over antarctica ,which indicates less than 200dobson units and a hole is anything less than 220 what is depleting our 03. On 03 May 2021, Paddy, Aberdeen South, sub, 130m elevation wrote: 3˚C at 7.30, sunny and still to begin with, clouding over by 11, cold S’ly wind getting up, turning into the E by afternoon, max temp 10˚, rain setting in by 6pm and and forecast to keep going all night, 5˚ by 8pm. The Greenland High is going to give us N’lies again tomorrow, possibly snow on the hills. This looks to be like a difficult growing year, set up the cold frame today but am not in a hurry to put things into it just yet. == Claude, I agree with you, the 3 temps I record every day don’t tell the whole story at all, it’s just an rough indicator and also depends on where the thermometer is sited. On 03 May 2021, claude grayson wrote: 0600 6.1c o/n L 3.5 and a spot of precip. just heard on suspicious observers that globally April was a repeat of April 1980 On 02 May 2021, claude grayson wrote: after writing the last comment i went out for more wood and saw hard ice on the cars so scrolled back thro the days record.Ive set mine to record every minute ,and saw we actually hit 15.1c for16min and it occured to me that therein lies a problem for the records of highs and lows.we record a high of 15.1 ,But we only spent 4.5 hrs above14c including 53min above 15c,only 9hrs above 10c so in fact it was a cold day,yet it will be recorded as a H 15.1 a L 0.2 ,and noone will know how long it was actually cold or warm for. On 02 May 2021, Paddy, Aberdeen South, sub, 130m elevation wrote: 5˚C at 7.30, bright but dark clouds in the W, no wind to speak of so when the showers started by midday they stayed in place for a long time & we had some hefty ones, gone is the dryness we had. Max temp 13˚, more showers in the afternoon, with variable light winds, 6˚ at 8pm. == M Lewis, here’s hoping but I wouldn’t bet on it. On 02 May 2021, claude grayson wrote: Its all good to rattle on about our pet theories about how the weather cycles come and go but it does pay to compare them with what is reality.But seems so many dont do that, esp in mainstream and in the media.Until the reality begins to show, that we have very little control over nature and its cycles.One wonders how many of the kids who were conned into marching for climate change are now having to walk to school in the late or early cold,and surely they must wonder if we really are warming.. we are down to 2.2c at 0600 and grass 1.6 so another cool day begins.our frost of yesterday was much whiter nearer town even at 8am and we slowly struggled into 14c On 02 May 2021, M Lewis wrote: Craig, Ron and Paddy - the April of 1976 was cold and frosty and ended with wintry showers. Could we get a repeat summer of 1976? That would be great for staycations after the annoying COVID Lockdowns. It would be good if the UK had a last hurrah heatwave before the onset of the 21st Century Little Ice Age starting this coming winter. On 01 May 2021, Paddy, Aberdeen South, sub, 130m elevation wrote: 1˚C at 7.30, harder frost than yesterday - naturally, as we go towards summer :-), really sunny & warming up quickly though to a max of 12˚ by midday, a number of showers until early afternoon, then dry for the rest of the day but overcast, 5˚ at 10pm. The first swallows passed through the farm today, later than in recent years. == Ron, tell ma aboot it! We had a pneumonia-inducing family BBQ tonight, brrr! On 01 May 2021, claude grayson wrote: down on these islands winter is trying to nudge autumn out of the way and this morning we are at 0600 0.2 air temp and -.8 grass ,so hopefully all the duckshooters are rugged up warm,tho with clear sky the ducks will just be flying out of range.everyone seems to hae gone quiet on climate down here,maybe they are finally realizing we are cooling and dont know how to admit they got it all so wrong On 01 May 2021, Ron Greer wrote: PADDY; Beeb now saying that this May bank holiday, likely to be the coldest on record. I see that they've now got the sleet icons extending further south than earlier. You may miss the precipitation, but we certainly need it here. On 01 May 2021, @CraigM350 Berks 51N wrote: Half a degree above freezing last night (predicted low was 3C) so a continuation of last month. Here we had 26 nights and 22 days below average. 11 frosts (average 2). Night temperatures some running 3.5C below average, days close to 2C below (helped by sunshine of 130% so it felt warm out of the wind and shade), snow falling on 4 days (average less than one) with one proper covering of snow (average pretty much zero). 15mm of rain so about 25% of avg. According to MetO "April 2021 had the lowest average minimum temperatures for April in the UK since 1922....third lowest average UK minimum temperature for the month since records began in 1884... sunshine hours for the month in their top five ever recorded since 1919 === https://www.metoffice.gov.uk/about-us/press-office/news/weather-and-climate/2021/lowest-average-minimum-temperatures-since-1922-as-part-of-dry-april === What. A. Month. On 30 Apr 2021, Paddy, Aberdeen South, sub, 130m elevation wrote: 2˚C at 7.30, more widespread light frost than yesterday, sunny start with the obligate cold NNE’ly wind, showers starting up by 10.30, some of them heavy + one massive hail shower, 10˚ max, calm and bright evening, 5˚ at 8pm. We had about 8 days without frost this month, that’s a cold April. == Thanks for the info, Ron. On 30 Apr 2021, Ron Greer wrote: Aye, standard forecasts now predicting snow on the northern edge of the Low coming in of the Atlantic on Monday. Beeb weather report confirms that this has been the frostiest April on record. On 29 Apr 2021, Paddy, Aberdeen South, sub, 130m elevation wrote: 2˚C at 7.30, light frost in places, sunny to begin with, sharp NNE’ly wind, if it wasn’t for the April sun it would feel like February, frequent showers of hail and rain during the morning, max temp 9˚, spectacular cumulus clouds again, drying up late afternoon, bright end to the day, 5˚ at 8pm. On 29 Apr 2021, Ron Greer wrote: STV predicting heavy rain in Scotland on Monday, but Norwegian weather service now backing off on this. Still very dry here with nippy frosts. Wonder if the Low coming in on Monday will have snow on its northern edge? PADDY: the Latin name is Crataegus chlorosarca On 29 Apr 2021, Rhys Jaggar wrote: First significant rain since early March in NW London yesterday - probably around 0.5 inches and it has penetrated the soil to at least 1 inch down. Early potatoes are still only just starting to emerge despite planting around the Equinox. Sod's law says that the one year I give up on Spring Turnips due to excessive warmth/dryness the previous 5 years we will get a cool one which would have given a great crop. Looks like most of the fruit will do well here: the earliest blooms on the plum disappeared, but still plenty left. Cherry, pear and apple look perfect. Spring did not prevent a perfect early radish harvest of 8.5lb per square metre (around 5lb of edible root, leaves used in stock/soup). Beetroots planted out the day after and expected to crop in early July. On 28 Apr 2021, Paddy, Aberdeen South, sub, 130m elevation wrote: 4˚C at 7.30, sunny but with a cold NNE’ly wind, occasional light graupel showers during the morning, max temp 9˚, more cloud in the afternoon with one big hail shower and many rain showers, spectacular sky in the evening, the sun illuminating the towering cumulus clouds in ever changing ways, 4˚ at 8pm. Saw a large flock of around 100 fieldfares twice today, they must be hanging around before setting off to their breeding sites in Scandinavia. == Ron, what’s the Latin name of the Sakhalin hawthorn? I have some Washington hawthorn, Crataegus phaenopyrum which I grew from seed. There are hundreds of varieties worldwide. On 28 Apr 2021, claude grayson wrote: very interesting news article this morning ,our hydro lakes are 67% of what they normally are at this time of year and no rain is forcast for 2 weeks and a posibility of 2-3 months dry.so what do they do, burn coal and gas to top up the power.so sad for the greeny camp.sad too for globalwarmists.cold = less rain, warm = more so are we cooling or warming. they are partly blaming La Nina but only partly. we will Enjoy the show. On 28 Apr 2021, claude grayson wrote: Ive been very lazy lately sitting back and observing the show, watching some of timeteam archeology,watching our autumn fluctuate .temps have been all over and this morning finally our first frost .ice on the vehicles air temp at 0600 1.1C grass 0.1 . and the met have 1C at the airport and a forcast of a low of 8 ,so they were a little bit out.i wonder which will be recorded for the future.Must be so frustrating for them wanting it to show warming but unable to make the weather do what they want. On 28 Apr 2021, Ron Greer wrote: Well if GFS is anything to go by( and it hasn't been too bad recently) then we are unlikely to see any reasonably warm weather until mid May, with northerly airstreams being the rule until then. The Norwegian forecast shows the snow icons 3 times in my area in the next week with night frosts. This is definitely reminiscent of the cold springs of the mid 1980s All we need now is a major Icelandic volcano to blow. On 28 Apr 2021, out_east wrote: 'Met Office and Microsoft". Ah that will be the most accurate "super computer" with algos known only to Gates... It will be met office's "blue screen of death" following on from the Barbecue summers, Michael Fish's famous "little bit of wind", & failure to drain the somerset levels. If I got paid for failure as well as they all do, it would be marvellous,just like "van der Lamer" and the truly awesome EU vaccine roll out... On 28 Apr 2021, M Lewis wrote: Ron, Paddy and Out East. The UK Met Office and Microsoft have announced last week they have joined forces to build the world’s most powerful weather and climate forecasting supercomputer here in UK! It will have access to all the historical meteorological records to forecast future weather. They are expecting increasingly extreme storms, floods and snow! https://www.metoffice.gov.uk/about-us/press-office/news/corporate/2021/met-office-and-microsoft-announce-supercomputer-project On 28 Apr 2021, out_east wrote: I can confirm it's the coldest spring I can remember in many decades. Daffodils have only just appeared in Tallinn, & the forecast for NE Russia is still freezing nights + sleet showers into the first week of may. Add to that the total devastation of the vines + fruit blossoms over most of France from champagne all the way to Pyrenees, and it's adding up to be overall a cold(ish)winter then a freezing spring (one of very many I am told in France). This is to the extent I know one wine cooperative (nr Orleans), existing since 1900 that closed up 2-3 yrs ago, not because of "global warming" but because the increasing late frosts over the last devasted the vines for several seasons in succession. If you know the history of France going back to 1500, you will know the reason why the chateaux/wines of Loire were built, - because of the warmth,(followed by the extremes of maunder minimum), which made them unheatable in winter & infested with insects in summer. I wait for the summe On 27 Apr 2021, Ron Greer wrote: Well, Paddy, the Aronia and the Sakhalin Hawthorn have proved impervious to the huge temperature swings. Could do with some rain here though. On 27 Apr 2021, Paddy, Aberdeen South, sub, 130m elevation wrote: 5˚C at 7.30, overcast and a cold E-NE’ly wind blowing all day, quite a bit of rain throughout the morning and early afternoon but not heavy, max temp 7˚, brightening up by evening, 5˚ at 8pm. Too right, Ron, it is damn cold and I can easily believe it’s the coldest April since 86. Regarding self praise, here is a caption from a Harold Lloyd movie “This is Mr Stubbs, the floor manager, muscle-bound from patting himself on the back.” :-)) On 27 Apr 2021, Ron Greer wrote: if I remember correctly, the cold April of 1986 ( itself preceded by a cold February, like this year) was followed by a cold early June with snow down to 400 metres. On 26 Apr 2021, Paddy, Aberdeen South, sub, 130m elevation wrote: 6˚C at 7.30, overcast with a cold SW’ly wind which gradually turned into the NW by afternoon, some light rain in the morning, heavier stuff in the afternoon, max temp 11˚, down to 7˚ by 8pm. On 25 Apr 2021, Ron Greer wrote: Risking an accusation of self praise, I pondered in a much earlier post, whether this April would be in a league with the cold Aprils of 1966 and 1986 and lo and behold the BBC Countryfile forecast mentioned that it was the coldest April since the late 1980s--and it ain't done yet. On 25 Apr 2021, Paddy, Aberdeen South, sub, 130m elevation wrote: 2˚C at 7.30, brilliant sunshine making the air warmer than what the thermometer says, light and cold SE’ly breeze which turned into the S later on, still a bit of frost earlier on, brilliant sunny day & warm anywhere out of the wind, max temp 13˚, down to 8˚ by 8pm. Rain coming down from the N tomorrow, no end of the cool weather in sight as yet. On 25 Apr 2021, M Lewis wrote: Well yet another moorland fire, this time in The Mourne Mountains in Northern Ireland. Surely arson is the cause rather than man made climate change. I would suspect that the heather was dowsed with petrol or paraffin and set alight deliberately. Presumably Hampstead Heath in London is on the LFB and Met Police Red Watch List? Londoners love the green open space countryside and it would be a great loss if it were to go up in smoke and flames! Piers should raise the issue as he is campaigning for London Major, as I'm sure it will strike a chord with voters who jealously guard their green open spaces.. On 24 Apr 2021, Paddy, Aberdeen South, sub, 130m elevation wrote: 2˚C at 7.30, slight frost again but being chased away by the sun pretty quickly, sunny but cold day with a max of 13˚, clear evening, 5˚ at 9pm, frost is certain. On 23 Apr 2021, Paddy, Aberdeen South, sub, 130m elevation wrote: 5˚C at 7.30, wot - no frost? Another sunny day but with the obligate cool NE’ly breeze, max temp 16˚, down to 6˚ by 8pm under a cloudy sky. == Interesting comment from Fairbanks, Ron. When it’s going to get seriously cold a lot of nonsense will disappear because we’ll suddenly be concerned with our survival. On 22 Apr 2021, Paddy, Aberdeen South, sub, 130m elevation wrote: 1˚C at 7.30, frostier than yesterday, sunny all day with a cold N’ly breeze at first, turning into the SE’ly sea breeze later, a real spring day but with a cold undertow, max temp 15˚ out of the wind, sunny end to the day with 7˚ at 8pm. On 22 Apr 2021, Ron Greer wrote: Just had a letter from a friend in Fairbanks, Alaska, dated 13th April, saying that it had just got above 32F for the first time in months and that it had got above 40F for the first time since October 10th 2020, the longest stretch of such a figure since the early 1900s. On 21 Apr 2021, Paddy, Aberdeen South, sub, 130m elevation wrote: 2˚C at 7.30, slight frost, sunny from the word go with at first a cold N’ly and then a cold S’ly wind, not much difference between the two, max temp 12˚, sunny end to the day, 6˚ at 8pm. Doesn’t look like there is going to be warmth anytime soon; so far it feels like a repeat of last spring: sunny & dry but colder. On 20 Apr 2021, Paddy, Aberdeen South, sub, 130m elevation wrote: 6˚C at 7.30, cloudy with a light SW’ly wind, spring-like for a couple of hours but then it started to rain lightly and the wind turned into the NW and we only had 11˚ max, brightening up late afternoon but not making any difference in temperature and feel, back to more of a wintery mood. On 19 Apr 2021, Paddy, Aberdeen South, sub, 130m elevation wrote: 7˚C at 7.30, bright with a cold S’ly wind, sunny for most of the day and pleasantly warm out of the wind, max temp 15˚, everything is quite dry now, which will keep the weeds down if it continues, 8˚ at 8pm. On 18 Apr 2021, Paddy, Aberdeen South, sub, 130m elevation wrote: 3˚C overnight, 6˚ at 7.30, first frost free morning in almost a fortnight, quite cloudy with a cool S’ly wind all day, occasionally sunny, max temp 13˚, quite overcast by evening, 8˚ at 8pm. Not much heat upcoming as far as one can see. On 17 Apr 2021, Paddy, Aberdeen South, sub, 130m elevation wrote: 2˚C at 7.30, light frost in places, very sunny start, then various shapes of cirrocumulus occasional blocking out the sun, fresh & cold S’ly wind all day, still got to 14˚, grass in fields has suffered from the frost in recent days, turning fields a dull grey green, neighbours having to shift their sheep frequently as not enough fresh growth, 5˚ at 8pm. == Yes, Ron, there has not be a frost free morning in the last 12 days, the only compensation being that the ground has dried big time, therefore sowing in full progress everywhere. On 16 Apr 2021, Paddy, Aberdeen South, sub, 130m elevation wrote: 0˚C overnight, 3˚ at 7.30, light frost in parts, strong & cold S’ly wind from the start but also clear blue sky all day after being a bit cloudy early on, max temp 12˚, hot when working in shelter, 5˚ at 8.30pm. Our son spotted sand martins flying over the river today. On 16 Apr 2021, Ron Greer wrote: This morning was the first day for a week that I have not needed to break the ice on the water butt ( an old bath) that I use to water my seedlings. On 15 Apr 2021, Paddy, Aberdeen South, sub, 130m elevation wrote: -1˚C at 7.30, another amazingly sunny but cold day, still to begin with but the cold SE’ly sea breeze got almost as soon as the sun came up, incredibly blue sky all day, max temp 12˚ but feeling colder in the wind, 5˚ at 8pm. On 14 Apr 2021, Paddy, Aberdeen South, sub, 130m elevation wrote: -1˚C at 7.30, totally clear sky all day, cold start but warming up to 14˚, NW’ly breeze at first but SE’y sea breeze kicking in by mid morning and giving that underlying cold feel, but still the warmest day in this present cold spell, 5˚ at 8pm. On 14 Apr 2021, M. Lewis wrote: Craig - please can we ask Piers to comment on the UK Weather patterns over the past 6 months, as it does really seem that his brand of metaphysical science and climate research is now being confirmed in the field. Many thanks. On 14 Apr 2021, @CraigM350 Berks 51N wrote: It's snowed on 4 days this month which is the best of 'winter" and yesterday morning we had an inch settle of global heating after it started snowing at 6ish. Seeing spring blossom with snow on pretty bare trees says it all. A delayed spring. It was all gone by midday and felt warm in the sun despite only reaching 8C. It pretty much smashed Feb in one morning, Feb had a lovely cold spell but had a derth of snow here. Lots of flurries but ultimately a great waste. At least Glenn did well - I was worried for him watching radar as Norwich seemed a snow hole but some did really well. It's been a cold month with some days more like Feb with highs of 5 or 6C and lows below - 2C. CET running over a degree below average but here at least 2. Over a degree below March so far as well. Saw some very brown magnolias today. Frosts: 5, Snowfalls 4. Date 13th 😂 High 15C. Low - 2.5C. Coldest since 2013, best snowfall since April 2008. Long live the Grand Solar Minimum and the MIA. On 13 Apr 2021, Paddy, Aberdeen South, sub, 130m elevation wrote: 0˚C at 7.30, not as cold as yesterday but still plenty frost on the ground, light and cold winds ranging NW-E, plenty sunshine with a max temp of 12˚, also plenty nice cumulus clouds in whose shade it felt colder immediately, still end to the day, 4˚ at 8.30pm. My hope for frost free was in vain last night, have a feeling it might be the same tonight. Tree buds holding back, that said, in a sheltered part of our forest we have a clutch of bird cherries (Prunus padus) that are green with the first small leaves. On 13 Apr 2021, Paul Derby wrote: I wish Piers would just concentrate on the weather On 12 Apr 2021, Andy(Chilterns) wrote: Snow showers Sunday and covering of snow this morning On 12 Apr 2021, Paddy, Aberdeen South, sub, 130m elevation wrote: -2˚C again at 7.30, the show isn’t over yet. The daffodils are floored every morning but right themselves by midday in the sun, some of the flowering currants we planted for early food for bumble bees have had their flowers blasted and frozen off. Sharp NW’ly breeze, really cold in the shade but hot in the sun, max temp 10˚, the wind lessening somewhat in the afternoon, sunny end to the day, 5˚ at 8pm, hoping for a frost free night. On 12 Apr 2021, Rhys Jaggar wrote: Steady snowfall from 07.30am in NW London on Monday 12th April. NOt sticking at all, but it's white flakes after Easter. On 11 Apr 2021, Paddy, Aberdeen South, sub, 130m elevation wrote: -2˚C at 7.30, hard frost, sunny and hazy, temperature-wise it feels like February but the frost isn’t lasting as the much higher sun warms things up quickly. That said it’s been a cold day with a sharp N’ly wind and a fair amount of cloud giving frequent grapple showers in the morning, sunnier afternoon with a max of 7˚, snow showers by evening, might be all white again by tomorrow morning, 3˚ at 8pm. On 10 Apr 2021, Paddy, Aberdeen South, sub, 130m elevation wrote: -1˚C at 7.30 under a clear blue sky, obligate light NW’ly breeze, clouding up by mid morning and bringing occasional graupel showers out of dark clouds, max temp 9˚ thanks to some good sunny spells, clear sky at night with 0˚ at 9.30pm, we’re in for another cold night. On 09 Apr 2021, Paddy, Aberdeen South, sub, 130m elevation wrote: -1˚C at 6.00, 0˚ at 7.30, so quite frosty, bright sunny & dry day but with a biting NW’ly wind allowing a max of only 7˚, light snow shower in the evening but fairly still by then, feels like another frosty night as we already had 0˚ at 8pm. On 08 Apr 2021, Paddy, Aberdeen South, sub, 130m elevation wrote: 0˚C overnight, 2˚ at 7.30, after a calm start another day of howling W’ly wind and quite cold at that, mostly sunny with racing clouds, surprisingly it got to 12˚ max temp all the same, snow all gone again, clear windy evening, 5˚ at 8pm. On 08 Apr 2021, M Lewis wrote: More gorse and moor fires in South West England. Caused by arson by humans - not global warming / climate change / drought. https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-devon-56647009 https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-cornwall-56656258 When are the police going to catch the culprits? This has been happening since start of COVID. Piers should raise the outbreak of arson across the UK as part of his Mayoral Election campaign. On 08 Apr 2021, Rhys Jaggar wrote: Mark Hall - actually, food production needs to restore much more 'traditional wisdom' as somehow or other people managed to eat and survive when weather was much, much worse than it is right now. The things we need to do are to let the worms optimise drainage qualities of land and minimise tilling. Both of those things will allow optimal storage of moisture below ground, which will be available for growing roots of plants as they expand downwards in search of moisture. I've had multiple events of 4 inches of rain in a week and 6 weeks of drought in the past 4 years and I've not had a problem with growing things because my soil is now of perfect structure and so stores moisture optimally. I never have standing water. To be honest, the majority of vegetable crops in the UK have wide margins of safety for sowing dates: you can sow potatoes easily in early May and harvest long before the first frost, you can sow carrots in late May and do likewise. On 08 Apr 2021, Rhys Jaggar wrote: M Lewis - it is interesting what you say about the cold easter weather, but there was an article at iceagenow.info about this (I don't agree with all they said), where they quoted previous years with cold Aprils, including 1990. In 1990, I was living in the Swiss Alps and we had no snow from Christmas to mid-February after rain up to 2700m had turned all the Alps green. But in April in snowed down to 800m again and again, right the way through to the 25th April when I went home. We need to be careful about ascribing multi-year tendencies to what may just be a one-off. After all, since 1990, we have not had a little Ice Age, have we?? Out of interest, winter 1990/91 was much more normal after 3 years with huge high pressures over the whole of Europe for months at a time in winter. I was in the French Alps in early December 1990 for a ski training course and the snow cover and snowfall during the fortnight was epic. Same in Scotland after Christmas. On 07 Apr 2021, Paddy, Aberdeen South, sub, 130m elevation wrote: 0˚C at 7.30, still quite windy from the NW but mostly bright, by evening the sun had melted away most of the snow, max temp 7˚, wind abating by evening & becoming quite still for a while, 2˚ at 9pm. On 07 Apr 2021, Andy(Chilterns) wrote: Half an hour of heavy snow yesterday evening left a light covering in the Chilterns, temperature down to minus 3 overnight. On 07 Apr 2021, Mark Hall wrote: The quest for knowledge is a very dangerous voyage especially when you are sitting on a sofa. Exhilarating as it always is, you sometimes lose perspective. Who was that social historian who observed that every generation gets to believe that they were the ones who invented sex? It's that good, I suppose. Intoxicating. Piers has written extensively on the subject of meridional jet stream pattern prevalence during periods of lower solar activity. Basically the atmosphere is less pumped up. An asthmatic guy is blowing up the balloon instead of someone like Adam Peaty. And after all, the 3 weather cells in each hemisphere, that transport heat from the equator to the poles are driven by the energy from the sun. So, a weaker and meandering jet stream. Havoc for farmers and a serious threat to food production in the next few decades. On 07 Apr 2021, claude grayson wrote: autumn is behaving as normal down these parts just abit drier.but that is to be expected as we get colder.easter is often wet,with a change intemp and at school it signaled the change from summer to winter uniforms.Temps have been upto 21 H and 6 L and with a N wind one night didnt go below 17..the sun is still burning hot when out so the Co2 the lack of O3 is sure letting the UV through big time.and i see the O3 hole is increasing over Antarctica already if the maps are correct . On 07 Apr 2021, M Lewis wrote: Besides the 11 year Sunspot Cycle, the Sun has exhibited periods of very unusual sunspot counts. Most notably, from about 1645 to 1715 there were very few Sunspots - in some years none at all were observed! This period, now called the Maunder Minimum (after E.W. Maunder, who did important pioneering work related to this phenomenon), corresponded to an extremely cold spell in Britain, Ireland and Europe known as the Little Ice Age. I think we need our dear friends Down Under to keep us fully informed as to how their Autumn and Winter develops in the Southern Hemisphere. On 07 Apr 2021, M Lewis wrote: I have noticed that the Jet Stream over the UK has become increasingly meridional in direction (blowing North to South rather than from West to East) over the past 6 months. Hence the bitterly cold Easter and early April here in the UK and Ireland. Is this a sign of the Little Ice Age evolving? I know Piers is very busy campaigning for London Mayor but please can he give us a WeatherAction update! On 06 Apr 2021, Paddy, Aberdeen South, sub, 130m elevation wrote: -2˚C at 7.30, about 5cm of snow lying, bright and sunny with frequent heavy snow showers especially in the morning and throughout the day, still a powerful NW’ly wind with gale force gusts, max temp 4˚, sunny & windy end to the day, 1˚ at 8pm. On 05 Apr 2021, Paddy, Aberdeen South, sub, 130m elevation wrote: -3˚C at 7.30, howling NW’ly wind and frequent snow showers, we’d already had some last night and woke up to whiteness, many showers in the morning, fewer in the afternoon but still short whiteouts, with sunny spells in between, max temp 4˚, slightly less windy by evening but already 0˚ by 8pm. On 05 Apr 2021, Rhys Jaggar wrote: First snow shower on a steady northerly breeze in NW London at around 10.15am this morning, April 4th 2021. Not particularly heavy, not sticking in any way, not causing any disruption. Just a minor noteworthy weather event.... On 04 Apr 2021, Paddy, Aberdeen South, sub, 130m elevation wrote: 6˚C at 7.30, quite sunny with a moderate W’ly wind but clouding over mid morning with the wind strengthening to some wild gusts and gradually turning into the NW, intermittent sunny spells with a max temp of 13˚, rain showers early evening, still very blowy, 5˚ at 8pm. Still yellow snow warning for tomorrow, remains to be seen how much of it will fall. On 03 Apr 2021, Paddy, Aberdeen South, sub, 130m elevation wrote: 5˚C at 7.30, sunny from the start but still with an underlying light but chilly and mostly NNW’ly breeze which turned into the SE during the afternoon, max temp 14˚, clear and not too cold evening, 8˚ at 8pm. Still a yellow snow warning for tomorrow & Monday, saying -3˚ overnight, not sure where this is supposed to come from looking at Ventusky, which is normally reasonably accurate. On 02 Apr 2021, Paddy, Aberdeen South, sub, 130m elevation wrote: 0˚C overnight, 2˚ at 7.30, cloudy with a moderate but biting N’ly wind, brightening up to a cloudless sky only in the afternoon and enabling temps to reach 12˚ max, clear end to the day but still windy, so another frost in the offing, 5˚ at 8pm. Yellow snow warning for Sunday & Monday with a min temp of -2˚ apparently. == Claude, yes, similar weather thousands of miles apart, it is the 6-monthly transition period for both of us but each one of us going in different directions. On 02 Apr 2021, Rhys Jaggar wrote: The Swiss Avalanche Service (www.slf.ch) released their 2020/21 season's review on March 30th (OK, they will update it in late spring when the melt is mostly well underway) and it makes for interesting reading if you subscribe to Piers' 'wild jet stream' viewpoints. There was extensive early snow on the mountains, such that high altitude resorts could open their ski lifts in mid October. A mild November followed, reducing the snow base, then December and January were unusually snowy, often down to low altitudes, leading to record snow depths in several places. February was more like spring than winter, then winter returned again in the middle of March. The end of March has been very warm, but snow is about to return again. Some regions (including the most southerly part of Switzerland) recorded the greatest snowfall totals since 1968.... Reads very much like the effects of a wavy jet stream to me.... On 02 Apr 2021, claude grayson wrote: Paddy, similar down here hot as in the sun ,burning hot,but cool to cold in shade.i attribute it to lack of o3 as shown on the NASA Ozone Watch pics.we have very little o3 in the sth hemi.so little there is often the remnants of the hole over antarctica as shown in purple shades.weather is autuminal and we were 3C yesterday morning,back to 10 today,with a bit of rain over the last week,just to keep the lawns growing. On 01 Apr 2021, Paddy, Aberdeen South, sub, 130m elevation wrote: 0˚C at 7.30, cloudy morning with a keen moderate but cold NE’ly wind, brightening up towards midday and leaving us with wall to wall sunshine all afternoon, max temp 11˚, hot when working in full sun but the wind didn’t allow much removing of layers of clothing without feeling cold quickly, totally clear sky by 8pm & down to 3˚ already. On 31 Mar 2021, Paddy, Aberdeen South, sub, 130m elevation wrote: 6˚C at 7.30, foggy and still for a while but an increasingly strong NE’ly wind soon starting, bringing with it drizzle all morning, even rain for a short while, max temp 8˚, that’s 12˚ down on Monday’s temps, wind continuing all afternoon and abating only by evening, 4˚ by 8pm. Easter has always been cold, with very few exceptions, ditto this year - did anybody mention spring? On 30 Mar 2021, Paddy, Aberdeen South, sub, 130m elevation wrote: 10˚ at 7.30, bright with the obligate fresh SW’ly wind, clouding over by mid morning, max temp 15˚, fabulous looking lenticular clouds in the afternoon, 11˚ at 8pm. On 30 Mar 2021, Rhys Jaggar wrote: A glorious sunny day in NW London with the temperatures reaching the expected 23C - nine module trays enjoying the outdoor sunshine and plants emerging at a rate of knots - expect pretty full germination of all trays by the end of Thursday. All the fruit trees are opening buds, but no flowers yet. On 30 Mar 2021, Ron Greer wrote: Well if GFS is to be believed, and it's a big 'if', then the latest run suggests one of the more 'interesting' Aprils since 1986 On 30 Mar 2021, Rhys Jaggar wrote: Donated you £25 and suggested a couple of policies, Piers. Happy to discuss in further detail if you think they are of merit, since forms can only give a very brief outline. On 29 Mar 2021, Paddy, Aberdeen South, sub, 130m elevation wrote: 10˚C at 7.30, bright with a fresh but not cold S’ly wind, mostly sunny with some dark clouds in W & N but not producing any rain, temps rising steeply to a max of 20˚, not bad considering that we had -1˚ a week ago, noticing daily that tree leaves are sprouting at a galloping pace, still 13˚ at 8pm. However, I’m not deluding myself that spring is finally here, the only thing final is that it’s a maybe… On 29 Mar 2021, Ron Greer wrote: Latest GFS run diverging from BBC model with less of an Arctic 'bite' until Easter Sunday when a really sharp grip will ensue for several days, followed by another less cold period, with a return of an extensive Polar Maritime outbreak about a week lower Since this is GFS we might expect it to be nearly the opposite, but the divergence of outlook in the standard remains interesting. On 28 Mar 2021, Paddy, Aberdeen South, sub, 130m elevation wrote: 7˚C at 7.30, cloudy with a fresh SW-S’ly wind that beefed up by afternoon, a bit of sunshine now and then, max temp 13˚, clouding up late afternoon, light rain by evening, 8˚ at 8pm, the supposed cold snap seems to have passed. On 28 Mar 2021, M Lewis wrote: Here is the latest forecast issued 27th March from BBC Weather / MeteoGroup for Easter UK weather. "There is still some uncertainty on the exact timing, but the cold front should sweep southwards across the UK either Wednesday or Thursday afternoon. The colder air mass behind the front will be a stark difference from the very mild air it replaces, with afternoon highs dropping as much as 10 Celsius is some places!" "Heading into the Easter holiday weekend, the weather will likely be a few degrees colder than normal but largely dry with patchy cloud. There is a chance of some scattered showers for northern and eastern areas, and these could bring some lowland snow if they develop. However, the bulk of the precipitation is expected to stay east of us in Scandinavia, Germany, and the Baltic Sea." So not a washout by any means, and more likely to be dry and sunny! On 27 Mar 2021, Paddy, Aberdeen South, sub, 130m elevation wrote: 0˚C overnight, 2˚ at 7.30, slight frost in sheltered places but thawing very quickly in the bright sun, windy again from the W, clouds moving along quickly, max temp 11˚, wind drying the ground nicely, so farmers out in force, 6˚ at 8pm. On 27 Mar 2021, Piers Corbyn wrote: Hi All! Sorry been out of touch on blog. Busy! Forecasting now catching up (I was ill - NOT "CV" or cancer) 2nd half jan / start feb and other things!) (with more help) even though standing for Mayor of London. Interesting reports on blog, thanks, on TV forecast models unreliability now. I think it's Little-Ice-Age / wild jet stream. Our WeatherAction Solar forecasts long range generally better under these circumstances at present. Cash flow VERY IMPORTANT right now and if you want to support my Mayoral campaign its URGENT this weekend re electoral payments due Monday morning (Policies info www.LetLondonLive.org = Corbyn4London.com) please BUY MORE FORECASTS or use donate button in forecasts or phone me to donate larger amounts. You can use donorbox via LetLondonLive.org but its slow to come through. Thanks very much for your attention and support. Every bit counts. All best, Piers On 27 Mar 2021, Rhys Jaggar wrote: Ron - BBC predictions have gone from a week of mist and constant temperatures to 3 days of late May-like sunshine (temps up to 23C where i live)), then dropping back to 9C max 3C min until further notice. Snow has fallen back down to the car park at Glencoe - quite a bit of it too. Looks like winter is by no means finished yet in Scotland. On 27 Mar 2021, M Lewis wrote: UK Weather is looking good for next week. Met Office is now saying that "in sheltered central and southern parts of the UK, weather conditions will be much calmer with temperatures climbing in the March sunshine to highs into the low 20s, with the possibility of 24 C in southeast England by Tuesday.The maximum temperature recorded in March is 25.6 C on 29 March 1968 at Mepal, in Cambridgeshire". Piers and WA what is the long term outlook for the summer - a scorcher or a wash out? What is the verdict of La Nina on the Jet Stream? On 26 Mar 2021, Paddy, Aberdeen South, sub, 130m elevation wrote: 6˚C at 7.30, cloudy with a strong SW’ly wind that kept going all day. Contrary to Metogrope’s forecast yesterday morning - no rain - we did have some overnight rain and a few light showers during the day, after 10.30 it got quite sunny but with pulses of cloud from time to time, max temp 11˚, sharp hail shower around 2pm, otherwise a sunny if blustery end to the day, clear evening and less windy, already only 2˚ by 8pm, so a frost is expected. On 26 Mar 2021, Ron Greer wrote: Oops----GFS now back to cold NE winds for that week On 26 Mar 2021, M Lewis wrote: With fine weather forecast for Easter week across much of the UK and Ire, Mr. Conny Wollbrant, of the Behavioural Science Centre at the University of Stirling, has been telling BBC Radio 5 Live that people may start to stretch the rules where they live as curbs ease elsewhere. “It’s quite likely that many people in England will look at what’s happening elsewhere (in Wales) and they will feel conflicted about what to do and on the basis of this difference they begin to convince themselves about breaking (Lockdown) rules,” he says. Meanwhile, Mr. Richard Leaf, chief executive of the Lake District National Park, says he thinks people in England will continue to observe lockdown but, from Monday, he predicts many more people will travel to the outdoors, coast and countryside to make the most of their new gained freedoms and vaccination jabs. On 26 Mar 2021, Ron Greer wrote: GFS excelling itself in predictive somersaults. About this time yesterday it was predicting a very severe polar maritime outbreak, coming from the north, over us in the first week of April. It is now, this morning, predicting southerly winds. Now if Piers was to come out with similar predictions?! On 25 Mar 2021, Paddy, Aberdeen South, sub, 130m elevation wrote: 4˚C at 7.30, another day of blustery SSW’ly winds, mostly cloudy with intermittent sunshine, planting trees in full wind on an exposed part of the farm felt more like February, max temp 14˚ in more sheltered parts, wind still strong by 8pm with 7˚, dry all day though & not much rain on the horizon. On 25 Mar 2021, M Lewis wrote: Rhys - BBC Weather and MeteoGroup; and ITV and Met Office are forecasting MIST for all next week as it will be Easter and Boris, Matt Hancock and the Government don't want people going to the seaside, beaches and National Parks to enjoy themselves at Easter. On 25 Mar 2021, Rhys Jaggar wrote: BBC currently predicting a whole week of 24hr a day MIST for next week. I guess it's possible, but I can't ever remember that happening before in late March/early April. Do remember it happening in November a few times.... On 24 Mar 2021, Paddy, Aberdeen South, sub, 130m elevation wrote: 2˚C at 7.30, bright start, light grass frost in a few places, also on the car roof, blustery and fairly cool SW’ly wind all day, mostly very sunny with some clouds, max temp 13˚, light rain shower early evening, bright moon with a few stars peeping through the clouds, 6˚ at 8pm. On 24 Mar 2021, M Lewis wrote: Wow, Mother Nature has spoken! Waterfalls are now flowing down Uluru / Ayers Rock. https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/av/world-australia-56506799 So much for increased risk of summer heatwaves and fires! LOL Piers - what is your forecast for UK this summer? Is it going to be like a scorcher like 1976, or a washout? On 23 Mar 2021, Paddy, Aberdeen South, sub, 130m elevation wrote: 6˚C at 7.30, mostly cloudy day with a strengthening SSW’ly wind, a little sunshine towards the end of the day, max temp 11˚, still blowy by evening, 8˚ at 8pm. On 22 Mar 2021, Paddy, Aberdeen South, sub, 130m elevation wrote: -1˚C at 7.30, everything white with frost, brilliantly sunny for most of the day, variable cool breeze, max temp 14˚, feeling hot when working in shelter, fairly clear evening, still 8˚C at 8pm. Tree buds beginning to swell visibly. On 22 Mar 2021, claude grayson wrote: Mark,sadly so true,and this morning its back to 3deg dif. at 06oo we were 7.1 the airport 11..i guess the only correct data is that which supports GW/CC.,so i do wonder what will be their response when it finally dawns on them they may have got it wrong IF that ever happens. On 22 Mar 2021, M Lewis wrote: There is something very strange going on as BBC Weather presenters no longer believe the forecast weather their expensive computer is advising them. The MeteoGroup's UK Easter Weather Forecast is as follows: "Confidence again is high on the broad pattern, but medium on the extent of how influential high pressure will be on our weather. There is a roughly twenty-five percent risk that high pressure to the East is much more amplified, keeping weather fronts off to our West. This pattern would also be warmer as southern winds bring air in from Spain and North Africa. But this pattern is a bit more typical of summertime. So despite the computer models suggesting this weather, it is more likely to be an alternative scenario". So, Computer Says Yes! Human Says No! On 22 Mar 2021, M Lewis wrote: RE: Floods in New South Wales Australia. LA Nina is responsible for the massive rainfall. This side of the continent is currently experiencing a La Niña weather pattern, which typically brings more rainfall and tropical cyclones during summer. Two of Australia's three wettest years on record have been during La Niña events. Typically a La Niña sees a 20% increase in average rainfall from December to March in eastern Australia. Please can Piers and WA advise what they expect to happen in the UK and Ireland this summer. Are we going to get a repeat of Summer 1976? On 21 Mar 2021, Mark Hall wrote: Claude, it would be great if that would happen, but the accreditation spider web has been wrapped up by these maniacs for a long time now. They are even homogenising the UAH satellite data and the balloon Radiosonde temperature series, because they do not support catastrophic climate change predictions. Or as they say, so that " assessed discontinuities can be adjusted so the data is correct". Keeping records is worthwhile though. Kudos to yourself and people like Paddy for putting in the legwork. On 21 Mar 2021, Paddy, Aberdeen South, sub, 130m elevation wrote: 6˚C at 7.30, overcast with a N’ly breeze but brightening up by 10 to leave us with a sunny and warm day, max temp 14˚ but feeling much warmer in shelter and full sun, wind changing into the SW by afternoon, clear starry & first quarter moonlit evening, 4˚ at 8pm, feels like a possible frost. On 21 Mar 2021, claude grayson wrote: well as i hinted at some time back the more weather stns we ,as joe bloggs, have the more the mainstream have to be honest..last week when this comp.was down id noticed the discrepancy between what my stn was recording and what was being shown for the airport gen 2-3 dg, ,but now im back up the temps are suddenly very similar.Strange. so if everyone could get a stn up and running GW may just dissappear because we could prove it was cooler than they say,so long as we placed the stn as far from human influence as practical.mines in a paddock 75m from anything.if it would traansmit id put it 300+m out but they only tranmit 100m. On 21 Mar 2021, Mark Hall wrote: "As a rule, a man is a fool. When it's hot, he wants it cool; when it's cool, he wants it hot, always wanting what it is not." Excerpt from "Wild is love" by Wayne Dorothy and Rasch Raymond, by way of Benjamin Disraeli. Not forgetting the great Nat King Cole. On 20 Mar 2021, Paddy, Aberdeen South, sub, 130m elevation wrote: 3˚C at 7.30, bright and sunny with a bit of mist, Equinox today at 9.38, sunny all day with little wind for the most part, max temp a whopping 17˚, appropriate for the first day of spring, NW’ly wind getting up by late afternoon, short rainfall, quite windy by evening but still 7˚ by 8pm. On 20 Mar 2021, Honesty wrote: Does a cold,wet and winny spring seem more than likely to other poeple? I'd love one but if it was in the summer it would be better as it cools you down sooner than in the sun or heat. On 20 Mar 2021, M Lewis wrote: Dear Piers, I'm just wondering if the High Pressure currently stationed over Ireland and UK is a taste of things to come for this Summer? It would be wonderful if we finally had a repeat of Summer 1976. It is long overdue! What is the long term forecast for the Jet Stream? On 20 Mar 2021, M Lewis wrote: Claude in New Zealand - it is no different here in the UK with Met Office temperature readings and daily highs reporting. Every summer they state that Heathrow Airport was the hottest place on a certain day(s). They never take the temperature reading from Windsor, Eton or Slough a few miles down the road which are a few degrees cooler! On 19 Mar 2021, Paddy, Aberdeen South, sub, 130m elevation wrote: 7˚C at 7.30, overcast & drizzly with a sharp NW’ly wind, occasional bits of blue sky during the morning but overall a cloudy day with a max of 10˚, quite still by evening, 8˚ at 8pm. Daffs now coming out, snowdrops beginning to fad, buds on various tree species visibly swelling. == Claude, appreciate your comms from down under, going in the opposite direction from the NH. On 19 Mar 2021, claude grayson wrote: so again the airport is showing 6degC while here it is 3.4 or 4.3 at 0600 .in the city its showing 11C.so no wonder they say we are warming.esp since the old records were taken when the airport was just a strip of tarmac surounded by grass and few other buildings or concrete to absorb the suns heat from the cloudless days weve been having,and become a heatsink.so will they give us raw data gathered from way out in the country far from any artificial heat source.of course not. On 18 Mar 2021, claude grayson wrote: finally they stoped trying to update this comp..dont know what our weather guys are up to but we were down to 2.9 this morn whereas the low forcast at 0541 was still 7at the airport 3ks awaymaybe they want warming to happen.desperately..the o3 hole is still lingering at antarctica,and looks like we may get a very dry winter so cold too. On 18 Mar 2021, Paddy, Aberdeen South, sub, 130m elevation wrote: 7˚C at 7.30, still windy from the NW & powering up during the day, which kept temps down a bit on this otherwise very sunny day, still a max temp of 16˚, warmest so far this year, feeling much hotter in shelter though, clouding over properly by evening, 8˚ at 8pm. On 17 Mar 2021, Paddy, Aberdeen South, sub, 130m elevation wrote: 5˚C at 7.30, over cast and still a NW’ly wind, although less strong than yesterday, some sunshine early on but going back to grey and windy by mid-morning, max temp 12˚ though and some good sunshine in the afternoon, relatively clear evening with 5˚ at 8pm. On 16 Mar 2021, Paddy, Aberdeen South, sub, 130m elevation wrote: 5˚C at 7.30, overnight rain just ended, light NW’ly wind at first but soon turning into a dose of the equinoctial gales blowing fiercely all day, max temp 11˚ in spite of that and mostly very sunny, wind abating somewhat by evening, 6˚ at 8pm. On 15 Mar 2021, Paddy, Aberdeen South, sub, 130m elevation wrote: 4˚C at 7.30, bright but still with a cold NW’ly breeze, sunny morning which pushed the temperature to 12˚ by midday, cloudy afternoon and cooler but by evening the wind changed into the SW and it felt markedly milder, light rain, 7˚ at 8pm. On 14 Mar 2021, Paddy, Aberdeen South, sub, 130m elevation wrote: 4˚Cat 7.30, slight frost in places, fresh NW’ly wind and quite bright with some cloud but not warm with that sharp wind, max temp 9˚ in more sheltered spots, sunny afternoon & fairly clear evening, less windy, 3˚ by 8pm. On 13 Mar 2021, Paddy, Aberdeen South, sub, 130m elevation wrote: 0˚C at 7.30, bright & frosty with a cold NW’ly breeze, frozen drops on trees from overnight rain, but turning into another fairly sunny day with a max temp of 10˚ out of the wind, a few rain showers by evening but otherwise dry, 3˚ at 8pm. == Rhys, we never count on winter being over until at least mid April, and even then… On 13 Mar 2021, Rhys Jaggar wrote: First decent rain for over a month in NW London. I also engaged in a ridiculously early first mowing of the grass, which is normally signalled by arrival at the spring Solstice. Snow down to the carpark at the Glencoe ski area once again, so clearly the winter is not yet fully behind us. On 12 Mar 2021, Paddy, Aberdeen South, sub, 130m elevation wrote: Barely 1˚C at 7.30, slight frost here & there but shaping up to a sunny day, albeit with a strong & cold W’ly wind, so max temp only 8˚, clear starry evening and 3˚ at 8pm. On 11 Mar 2021, Paddy, Aberdeen South, sub, 130m elevation wrote: 5˚C at 7.30, bright but cloudy, fresh W’ly wind strengthening during the day and drying everything nicely but only allowing for a max temp of 7˚, quite sunny in the afternoon with cirrus clouds, clear starry evening, 3˚ at 8pm & still windy. On 10 Mar 2021, Paddy, Aberdeen South, sub, 130m elevation wrote: 2˚C at 7.30, strengthening cold SW’ly wind, quite a bit of sunshine during the morning but clouding up by midday, max temp 10˚, starting to rain beginning of afternoon & continuing through the evening, looking like there will be more overnight, 6˚ at 8pm. On 09 Mar 2021, Paddy, Aberdeen South, sub, 130m elevation wrote: 4˚C at 7.30, strong & cold S’ly wind under a mostly overcast sky with some occasional sunshine during the morning, max temp 10˚, dry all day but rain starting after 7pm & looking to keep going all night, 6˚ at 8pm. On 08 Mar 2021, Paddy, Aberdeen South, sub, 130m elevation wrote: 6˚C at 7.30, light rain in a NW’ly breeze, turning into showers and sunny intervals for most of the morning, quite warm with a max of 11˚, overcast by afternoon and staying that way into the dry evening, still 6˚ at 8pm. On 07 Mar 2021, Paddy, Aberdeen South, sub, 130m elevation wrote: 4˚C at 7.30, though 0˚ overnight according to the thermometer, light W’ly breeze, drizzle & light rain off & on during the whole day but with a mild max temp of 8˚, still 6˚ at 8pm, wind turning into the SW. On 06 Mar 2021, Paddy, Aberdeen South, sub, 130m elevation wrote: -2˚C at 7.30, clear as a bell with a dry cold and a barely perceptible WNW’ly breeze, beautifully sunny morning, max temp 7˚ by noon but cloud moving in from the W in the afternoon, feeling milder than last night, 3˚ at 8pm. On 06 Mar 2021, M Lewis wrote: Rhys Jaggar - its a shame you were not born 2 years earlier. The worst winter for decades across the UK occurred during 1962 -1963. It was the Big Freeze and started on Boxing Day 1962 and lasted until March 1963. See it on BBC iPlayer Winterwatch 1963 The Big Freeze. We had a brief taste of it again in February this year. On 05 Mar 2021, Paddy, Aberdeen South, sub, 130m elevation wrote: 1˚C at 7.30, overcast, so no frost but only just, still a light & cold NW’ly breeze, brightening up after midday to a really sunny afternoon with a max temp of 6˚, clear starry sky in the evening, already -1˚ at 8pm. On 05 Mar 2021, Mark Hall wrote: Rhys, Lack of raw data is a problem too considering the green industry's manipulations of any measurements that do not fit their AGW agenda. Revisionism of Big Brother proportions. Scientific criminals like Mann and Jones are still withholding the raw data they supposedly based their cartoon theories upon. But we have pretty good proxy data anyway, to show that the Medieval Warm Period was warmer than our present Modern Warm Period. Obviously excluding all the Bristle Coned Pine crap. On 05 Mar 2021, Rhys Jaggar wrote: M Lewis: I think it's fair to say that since I was born in 1964, we've not had a 'Lorna Doone' winter. We've had some exceptionally cold snaps, like in Decembers 1981 and 2010. Winter 1986 was definitely a frigid one in Cambridge. But we are 300 years distant from the great winters of 1684 and 1740 and I for one am not objecting to that. What we don't have is a detailed temperature record from the period 1000-1400, which might have provided the counter-argument to 'man-made global warming'. That period is claimed by many reputable scientists to have been as warm as nowadays and that would have occurred without industrial emissions. One lesson people should always heed is that 'lack of data provides opportunities for scoundrels'. On 04 Mar 2021, Paddy, Aberdeen South, sub, 130m elevation wrote: 3˚C at 7.30, cold NNE’ly wind under the grey skies, though brightening up somewhat for short while, max temp 4˚, falling to 2˚ by 8pm. High pressure doesn’t always mean ‘fair’ as it says on barometers. On 03 Mar 2021, Paddy, Aberdeen South, sub, 130m elevation wrote: 2˚C at 7.30, overcast with a cold but light N’ly breeze, max temp 4˚, down to 3˚ by 8pm, feels like back to winter. On 03 Mar 2021, Glenn wrote: I would love to see the met office get taught a lesson. On 03 Mar 2021, M Lewis wrote: As a firm believer in Evidence Based Science, it is the following statement by Dr McCarthy of the UK Met Office which bothers me and is less than objective with no data or figures supplied. “Our winters are changing and as we have seen we can still receive cold snaps; it’s just that those extremes won’t be quite as cold or as frequent as they once would have been.” So essentially he is implying that there will be no more Lorna Doone winters or Thames freezing over, ice skating and winter fairs in the UK. Let's see what next winter brings! On 02 Mar 2021, Glenn wrote: M Lewis: the met office have to keep their fraudulent AGW scam going. If they admit they were wrong they will lose a whole load of British taxpayers money and that's what they are afraid off. On 02 Mar 2021, Paddy, Aberdeen South, sub, 130m elevation wrote: 3˚C at 7.30, cold S’ly wind under a grey sky all day, at least no fog, max temp 6˚ out of the biting wind, not as dark as yesterday when I was out with the dog in the evening as light from the nearby village was reflected from the low clouds, 3˚ at 8pm. On 02 Mar 2021, David (Yorkshire) wrote: Well as my last couple of comments were not published (did not fit the agenda obviously) and the fact that piers stance on the virus (and others who post on here) does not sit well with me, i am done with WA. Ron, Craig, Paddy, Maria, Fred take care.✌ please delete my details! On 02 Mar 2021, M Lewis wrote: The UK Met Office has clearly laid down the gauntlet for next winter. Will Piers and WA's Little Ice Age triumph? Dr Mark McCarthy is the head of the Met Office National Climate Information Centre. He said: “Minimum temperatures of below -20 were more frequent historically, but have become scarcer, while winter temperatures above 18.0C have become a little more regular, with four of the last five winters recording such events. Historically they were extremely infrequent events. “Our winters are changing and as we have seen we can still receive cold snaps; it’s just that those extremes won’t be quite as cold or as frequent as they once would have been.” On 01 Mar 2021, Paddy, Aberdeen South, sub, 130m elevation wrote: 3˚C at 7.30, dawn of another sunny day, warming up nicely to 11˚ but then we had the haar rolling in off the sea after midday, temp plunging rapidly & telling us to drop any ideas of an early spring, 3˚ by 8pm and very dark, still and quiet as the sound from nearby roads didn’t travel at all. == Sou’wester: another woolly idea from the Grungy Greta goons, haha. Well, it’s a good idea for sure as we have been painstakingly removing our plastic over the years and transforming it via a process involving matches that aids global warming as we feel it’s too damn cold up here :-) On 01 Mar 2021, Sou'wester (Devon/Cornwall border) wrote: When listening to Radio 4's Farming Today this morning, I thought of Paddy. They reported that someone has invented tree (sapling) guards that are completely biodegradable, rather than plastic - they are made of wool. I imagined Paddy's face lighting up until they got to the bit where they said the tree guards would be good for climate change! // Looking forward to another few days of the glorious sunshine that we've had since the middle of last week, though the morning frost and fogs were a surprise after the mild and windswept weather we had before that. On 28 Feb 2021, Paddy, Aberdeen South, sub, 130m elevation wrote: 1˚C at 7.30, light frost, sunny from the start and all morning with a light SW’ly breeze, max temp 12˚, clouding over from the SW in the afternoon, 6˚ by 8pm. On 27 Feb 2021, Paddy, Aberdeen South, sub, 130m elevation wrote: 3˚C at 7.30, slight ground frost but bright from the word go, very light WSW’ly breeze, temps rising quickly to a max of 14˚, we went to the beach and were almost too hot, wall to wall sunshine all day, beautiful full moon in Leo, still 6˚ at 8pm. On 26 Feb 2021, Paddy, Aberdeen South, sub, 130m elevation wrote: 1˚C at 7.30, clear as a bell and sunny all day with a max temp of 12˚, warmest so far this year, light SW’ly wind in the morning, turning into the W by afternoon, light & still evening, full moon tomorrow, 4˚ at 8pm. On 26 Feb 2021, M Lewis wrote: The Brunt Ice Shelf in Antarctica has now calved. Note: it has nothing to do with global warming but is an entirely natural process. Also note: estimates suggest the Brunt was at its biggest extent in at least 100 years before the calving. A big calving has been well overdue. https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-47692895 On 25 Feb 2021, Paddy, Aberdeen South, sub, 130m elevation wrote: 3˚C at 7.30, really bright start with a light SSW’ly breeze, followed by a mostly sunny day with a max of 10˚, much less windy than of late, 2˚ at 8pm. On 24 Feb 2021, Paddy, Aberdeen South, sub, 130m elevation wrote: 6˚C at 7.30, cloudy with a continuing strong SSW’ly wind, quite sunny at times with a max temp of 11˚, didn’t feel like that though as the wind was quite cold, abating somewhat by evening, 8˚ at 9.30pm. On 23 Feb 2021, Paddy, Aberdeen South, sub, 130m elevation wrote: 5˚C at 7.30, overcast with a strong S’ly wind, rain starting by 9 and going until early afternoon with some heavy bursts, occasional short sunny spells in the morning, wind blowing hard all day, max temp 8˚ by 8pm, so today was Mr Hyde. On 22 Feb 2021, Paddy, Aberdeen South, sub, 130m elevation wrote: 3˚C at 7.30, somewhat cloudy start but then a very sunny day with a max temp of 10˚ and a fresh, at times cold SW’ly wind, clear moonlit night with 2˚ at 8pm, we might get a frost. On 22 Feb 2021, Paddy, Aberdeen South, sub, 130m elevation wrote: 3˚C at 7.30, somewhat cloudy start but then a very sunny day with a max temp of 10˚ and a fresh, at times cold SW’ly wind, clear moonlit night with 2˚ at 8pm, we might get a frost. On 21 Feb 2021, Paddy, Aberdeen South, sub, 130m elevation wrote: 5˚C at 7.30, strong SW’ly wind, brightening up to a very sunny day, we are having real Jekyll & Hyde weather this month, max temp 10˚, another pre-spring day. Driving further inland we saw the river Dee well over its banks, ditto for the smaller river Feugh, both great collectors of snow melt, roads full of potholes that were not there before the winter, frost action. 4˚ at 8pm. On 20 Feb 2021, Paddy, Aberdeen South, sub, 130m elevation wrote: 5˚C at 7.30, cloudy & still to begin with but by mid morning a strong S’ly wind got going for the rest of the day, rain for most of the afternoon, stopping only in the evening when it felt really mild with 7˚ at 8pm. River Dee quite swollen but not yet at 2011 levels when that castle nearly got swept away. On 20 Feb 2021, Mark Hall wrote: Maria, I've just checked and the Feb 30 day was eventually published middle of this month. There was no Jan 30 day forecast, instead a one sheet winter summary Dec to Feb made it over the line. I'm resigned now to this continuing and just view them as historical documents. Piers certainly has alot on his plate, what with all the Corona nonsense and now the plan to run for London mayor. He was very nice on the phone about the delays when I contacted him in the autumn and he threw in a couple of long range updates. We actually arranged to meet at one of the Trafalgar Square demonstrations. Great speech by the way Piers. But he got arrested again and I got walloped on the back of the head by one of Dame Cressida's boys. Unprovoked police violence. The weather does not seem that important anymore, compared to the threat to democracy and our civil liberties from these health fascists. But if I were you, I'd give him a call at his office and be prepared to be pleasantly surprised. On 20 Feb 2021, Maria (Ireland sub?) wrote: Hi Piers/Craig wondering if you might be able to please help sort out my sub, emailed Piers a couple of times this year and guessing hes busy or not getting my email, I included copies of my 2 receipts as was wondering why I've no subs to open this year have any been put up or is it just mine gone janky? Let me know when I can access this years, cheers Maria. On 19 Feb 2021, Paddy, Aberdeen South, sub, 130m elevation wrote: 4˚C at 7.30, strong S’y wind all day, steady light rain all morning, drier afternoon, more rain by evening, 7˚ by 8pm. On 18 Feb 2021, Paddy, Aberdeen South, sub, 130m elevation wrote: 6˚C at 7.30, overcast & very windy from the SW, brightening up during the morning, giving us a reasonably sunny day, wind pretty cold and only 7˚ max temp, cloudy to the end of the day but moon still visible, wind less strong by evening, 4˚ at 8pm. == Ron, just sowed our tomatoes & parsley in our propagator, first time I’m doing it this early, hopefully the hard frosts will have killed off carrot fly larvae so that the parsley can get big before it gets hammered. Back in the day, the local tree nursery used to sell Norway spruce from “late flushing” seed provenance for Christmas tree production, those were the days, now it’s all Nordmann & Fraser firs. On 18 Feb 2021, Ron Greer wrote: PADDY: Aye defo that pre-Spring ambiance about. My pots and seed boxes have been frozen for well over a month and it's only today that they are fully thawed out. I remember Feb1986 and the frozen April that followed, so not counting my 'seedchicks' yet. Next while looks like Atlantic weather with only short spells of polar maritime air to contend with. Always a worry that more continental species will flush too early. On 17 Feb 2021, Paddy, Aberdeen South, sub, 130m elevation wrote: 5˚C at 7.30, some early rain with strong SW’ly wind which blew all day, brightening & drying things up nicely, mostly quite sunny, max temp 8˚, moonlit evening with 3˚ at 8pm. == Karon Jordan, welcome to the blog, great to have a Texan voice! Your temperatures are as unusual for your part of the world as 35˚C would be in Scotland in summer (don’t think that ever happened :-)) On 16 Feb 2021, Paddy, Aberdeen South, sub, 130m elevation wrote: 4˚C at 7.30, cloudy but brightening up quickly, strong SW’ly wind, very sunny morning and early afternoon, warming up quickly to a max of 11˚, definite feel of pre-spring in the air. Had to go out to get chicken feed, remnants of substantial snow drifts along major and minor roads, cloudy afternoon but clear and starry evening, 3˚ at 8pm. On 16 Feb 2021, Karon Jordan wrote: Hello from Burleson, Texas, south of Ft. Worth, where we had subzero temps last night and are single digits today. Six inches of snow from Saturday night will be with us until Thursday. Houston and Corpus Christi have snow and icy roads. More coming tonight. Power outages and boil water notices,(impossible for many who rely solely on electricity and with power outages for more than 24 hours in the area). It seems even Texas is affected by the Little Ice Age now upon us. On 15 Feb 2021, Paddy, Aberdeen South, sub, 130m elevation wrote: 2˚C at 7.30, cloudy with a S’ly wind, becoming really sunny during the morning, thaw continuing apace with a max temp of 9˚ - that’s 20˚ higher than last Thursday morning! Cloudy afternoon but a few stars out at night for a while, along with the narrow sickle of the waxing moon, 4˚ at 8pm. On 15 Feb 2021, Rhys Jaggar wrote: First seeds of the season sown indoors yesterday as temperatures hit double figures in NW London. Looks like the frost killed off the remaining celery and chard, the winter lettuce seems to have survived though. Stored potatoes showing the first signs of coming out of dormancy On 15 Feb 2021, M Lewis wrote: Even Texas is getting record low temperatures and snow. https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-56058372 Meanwhile canals have frozen over in the Netherlands https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-56054975 The climatologists will not accept that this winter has been unseasonally cold across the Northern Hemisphere. Coldest for several decades! So much for objective and evidence based science! On 15 Feb 2021, out_east wrote: The coldest winter in a decade out here in Russia & Baltic states. We get regular warnings for the last weeks by the local state weather info, heavy snow (Ukraine & Moscow currently), low temperatures (down to -38C). Last week was the coldest of the winter, but still temps forecast this week for down to -27C. Last winter was warm with little snow and temps regularly positive, this winter was what I call Normal again. So much for the Harrabins of this world. Maybe he should spend a few weeks out here, instead of writing crap from his office? On 14 Feb 2021, Paddy, Aberdeen South, sub, 130m elevation wrote: 1˚C at 7.30, fresh S’ly wind, rain thawing the snow all day, but not as much rain as forecast, cloudy all day, max temp 2˚ throughout and still that at 8pm. Good thing about a slow thaw is that floods will be moderated, though tomorrow it appears to be considerably warmer. Not sure that this will be the end of winter, the cold can come back anytime. On 13 Feb 2021, Paddy, Aberdeen South, sub, 130m elevation wrote: -1˚C at 7.30, about 3 cm more overnight snow, cold & mordant SSE’ly wind causing much drifting, cloudy morning but sunshine breaking through in the afternoon, max temp 2˚, wind abating somewhat by evening, 0˚ at 8pm. On 12 Feb 2021, Paddy, Aberdeen South, sub, 130m elevation wrote: 0˚C at 7.30, we gained another 1cm of snow overnight, overcast with a biting moisture-laden SE’ly wind all day, occasional light snow showers but also a few glimpses of blue sky and sun, max temp 2˚, heavy wet snow shower in the evening with another 2cm+ being added in a short time, 0˚ at 8pm. On 12 Feb 2021, David (Yorkshire) wrote: Bring on spring. Hopefully this deep cold will have nobbled the virus a bit too! March can give heavy snowfalls but it does not stick around long unless you live 250 metres ASL or more! On 12 Feb 2021, M Lewis wrote: Yet another wildfire - this time near Bodmin and Wadebridge in Cornwall. https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-cornwall-56037226 Will the Government impose £10,000 fines and 10 year jail sentences on the arsonists? That would reflect the gravity of the situation - rather than handing out meaningless community service orders. On 12 Feb 2021, Andy B 45D wrote: M Lewis apparently the Tames froze over recently https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9252937/Big-freeze-continues-Britain-told-brace-four-inches-snow-50mph-gales-today.html?ito=social-twitter_dailymailUK On 12 Feb 2021, Andy - Chiltern Hills wrote: Most of the snow has gone here now. Glad to hear your news Glen, i think the Snow Gods owed you that, life isn't so bad after all. On 12 Feb 2021, Alistair wrote: I see one or two forecaster are predicting spring like conditions next week and daffodils blooming. Given the fact that it is only February and the models have been very volatile this winter, I wouldn't be surprised to se a sudden flip back to very cold again given what happening in the strat. The way this winter has unfolded leaves me believing that this isn't the last of the snow by a long way. I've certainly seen large dumps of snow in late February during my lifetime, especially in the 60s and 70s. On 12 Feb 2021, Geoff wrote: Enjoy it, Glenn; by next week, all you'll have left to show for it is two pieces of coal and a large carrot...which reminds me of a stag do I went to once! Anyhow, I've already read that this year's cold might just have been a teaser and next year (2021-22) may be a real mother!! On 12 Feb 2021, Ron Greer wrote: Depending on the model and confidence in it, it looks as if Saturday will be the last day of winter and Sunday the first day of spring( however treacherous that can be in Scotland). At least this year, we can say there's actually been a winter. On 12 Feb 2021, M Lewis wrote: Glenn - I'm very pleased that your wish came true! Hopefully this is the start of many snowy winters to come! Maybe rivers will even freeze over in future years. Latest on the UK wildfires. This time in Dartmoor. This must be another arsonist? https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-devon-56037220 I am very surprised that the army / military have no details on how it started and the cause - given their bases and troops in the area. On 11 Feb 2021, Maria (Ireland sub) wrote: Glenn we have only had a sprinkle of the awe inspiring white stuff here today despite snowing lightly on n off all day and being incredibly cold since the weekend, but, it has totally made my day knowing you have finally had some and made some memories in it! Yay so happy for you stay safe and stay happy life is cool 🥶😁 On 11 Feb 2021, Paddy, Aberdeen South, sub, 130m elevation wrote: -11˚C at 7.30, coldest it’s been for a long time, probably about 10 years (I started reporting/recording on here only in 2013), very sunny morning with a max temp of 3˚, the growing warmth of the sun can be felt on one’s face now, clouding up in the afternoon but no snow showers today, some stars visible tonight, -3˚ at 8pm. On 11 Feb 2021, Glenn wrote: I'm really pleased to report that after 3 long snowless years I finally got it. First time on internet since as I've been out and about enjoying the snow. Really came down Sunday night and we got about four inches in total which was quite impressive. I would rate this month as a classic, it has felt so much like the 1980s. A cold winter overall too, such a change from the two previous winters. Maybe this is finally the LIA making its pressence felt here in Norwich. To stand outside at night time especially and feel the full force of the beast in all its rage and glory is breathtaking and it leaves me in complete awe. The splendour of snow covered landscapes has lifted my spirits and I feel reawoken after several years of depression. On 11 Feb 2021, M Lewis wrote: A bizarre but true result of the extreme cold weather in Scotland. Massive wild fires across the Western Isles. https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-highlands-islands-56021899 I do wonder whether they are actually the result of some mad arsonists and if they were started deliberately? On 11 Feb 2021, Harris Keillar wrote: 25cm of level snow at 150m asl in South Edinburgh. Gritter stuck down a hill on a neighbouring street and had to help push a car going DOWN a slight slope as front wheels spinning wildly - just summer tyres. Hoping that the mild incursion is just temporary but looking more and more likely that it will win through. On 11 Feb 2021, Rhys Jaggar wrote: NW London non-snow event really the past few days: three or four lots of snow coming down, maybe creating 2-3cm depth, but grass still poking through and then it melted in midday sunshine before the next little smidgen came along. Garden still has patches of snow on it but roads are clear. All the frost at night will be good for the fruit trees and my garlic down at the allotment....hopefully kill off a few slugs as well! Looks like places to look for epic snowfalls are in Moscow and other Russian cities. The Alps has seen nothing significant.... On 10 Feb 2021, Rich wrote: SE Cambs didn't fair well, 3cm Sun night quickly melted Monday with the ground being so warm, lot of latent heat after heavy rains and mild sunny days last week. Few flurries on and off but that's been it. Cold -10 forecast tonight should see off bugs that have built up last few winters. Sledge alas remains unused still since Feb 18, onto 21/22, least it has felt like a winter for first time in years and not the jump from autumn to spring! On 10 Feb 2021, Paddy, Aberdeen South, sub, 130m elevation wrote: -4˚C at 7.30, new fall of snow overnight so that we now have about 15cm - until we drive a few hundred yards down our hill and there is much less there, roads are all passable if slushy, E’ly wind in the morning, gradually turning into the N, very sunny day with a max of 2˚ but already below freezing by 4pm and -5˚ by 8pm, feels like this is going to be the coldest night so far this winter. On 10 Feb 2021, Ron Greer wrote: Standard models highly variable in respect of the progress of the Atlantic air against the blocking High and forecasters oscillating to and fro. Bit of a change on Sunday with by the looks of it the potential for sleety drizzly misery with raw winds, but what's going to happen thereafter? On 10 Feb 2021, David (Yorkshire) wrote: Had some heavy snow showers last night put a couple more cm's down, so about 4 now in total lying (sun is melting some in the day now) It is going to be bitterly cold tonight, i would think -7/8 in some parts of England. Looks like cold will hang on over the weekend! On 10 Feb 2021, Tony ex sub wrote: Not heard from glen hope hes not been buried in snowy Norwich... On 10 Feb 2021, Ron Greer wrote: ANDY L.: glad to hear that Glenn got his wish. Give him my best regards. On 09 Feb 2021, Paddy, Aberdeen South, sub, 130m elevation wrote: -3˚C at 7.30, lighter E’ly wind than yesterday, frequent and occasionally heavy snow showers throughout the day but with a few bits of blue sky and sunshine in between, max temp 2˚, down to 0˚ already by 4pm, -3˚ by 8pm. Ron & M Lewis, we have 10cm+ snow cover, looking at the radar there will be some more overnight, Aboyne had 30cm yesterday apparently. On 09 Feb 2021, Rhys Jaggar wrote: http://lochaberblog.sais.gov.uk/2021/02/the-coldest-day-of-the-winter-so-far/ says that the Lochaber branch of the Scottish Avalanche Service reported the lowest midday temperature record ever today, breaking the previous record in December 2010. With talk of -50F windchill in the Northern Midwest, seems like the SSW is finally making its presence felt about 6 weeks after it occurred.... On 09 Feb 2021, Andy L (Cambridge) (occasional sub.) wrote: Glenn in Narwich is just putting the finishing touches to his snowman complete with green and yellow bobble hat and scarf. Meanwhile here in sub-tropical Cambridge the ground is still dry. Cold, but dry. Weather's funny isn't it? On 09 Feb 2021, Ron Greer wrote: PADDY: only a centimetre or so here, but 20 centimetres at Dunkeld. Skies crystal clear and so a heavy frost on for tonight. On 09 Feb 2021, Ron Greer wrote: and the key question---did it snow in Norwich? On 09 Feb 2021, M Lewis wrote: Good article and pictures on the heavy snow, ice, power cuts and transport disruption in Scotland. https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-highlands-islands-55981029 Presumably Ron and Paddy have been hit hard? On 09 Feb 2021, Rhys Jaggar wrote: http://winterhighland.info/cams/glencoe/ The only reason the children of Scotland wouldn't see snow again this year is because of lockdown, not the weather. That snow cover is as good as 40 years ago..... On 08 Feb 2021, Andy (Chilterns) wrote: Pretty heavy snow all day here, temperature not getting above -1 deg C On 08 Feb 2021, Paddy, Aberdeen South, sub, 130m elevation wrote: -1˚C at 7.30, 2” (5cm) of snow lying, strong ENE’ly wind carrying in frequent and heavy snowshoers, max temp 2˚ in the afternoon, occasional blue sky and sunshine, we have somewhere between 5 - 10cm of snow, footprints get covered over very quickly, 1˚ by 8pm, more snow on the way, Ron, especially for Perthshire tomorrow according to the Vimtobeeb. On 08 Feb 2021, David (Yorkshire) wrote: Got a covering here now but took alot of showers to give a few cm. Should be a fair bit more setting overnight, if the showers continue and line up. Very cold out in the wind tho! On 08 Feb 2021, M Lewis wrote: Regarding the possible EMF effect of transmissions from RAF Trimingham on the local weather near Cromer Norfolk, in November 2006 the radar station became involved in much controversy when motorists on the coast road blamed the station for causing car engines and lights to cut out. Speedometer dials swung up to 150 mph as motorists drove past, and a local garage owner who runs the nearest garage at Mundesley, said he had dealt with 30 call outs over a couple of months to deal with faulty electrics in cars. https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/1511015/Drivers-blame-RAF-radar-as-dials-go-haywire.html On 08 Feb 2021, M Lewis wrote: Apologies, I left off my details on the last post concerning Norfolk and Cromer! On 08 Feb 2021, Not supplied wrote: Glenn in Norwich. Heavy snow showers at 0900hrs Monday 8 February at Norwich Airport and Kings Lynn. Can't be that far away from you! Maybe the EMF radar transmissions from RAF Trimingham near Cromer are affecting the weather and amount of cloud cover / snow / precipitation in that area? On 08 Feb 2021, Ron Greer wrote: PADDY: Aye, got a couple of cm+ last night. Sky has that cold look. Sharp frosts no doubt over the next few nights. Hope Glenn gets his share of snow soon. On 08 Feb 2021, Andy(Chiltern Hills) wrote: Good covering of snow this morning, temp -2 deg On 07 Feb 2021, Paddy, Aberdeen South, sub, 130m elevation wrote: -1˚C at 7.30, strong E’ly wind with snow flurries and more substantial showers falling onto frozen ground but only accumulating in any quantity by late afternoon, max temp barely 1˚ but we had a few glimpses of blue sky among the cumulus towers blowing in from the sea, about 2cm of snow lying by 8pm and 0˚. More snow forecast for tomorrow & Tuesday, you’ll be getting some of that, Ron, I’m sure. On 07 Feb 2021, Andy (Chiltern HIlls) wrote: Max temp 1deg today, had a heavy snow shower last night but all gone this morning, a few snowflakes but nothing much today. On 07 Feb 2021, Glenn wrote: Thank you for all your support everyone but I don't think it's going to happen for me, I sincerely hope I am proved wrong, I'm not greedy, just 2 inches will do me fine. Seen a few flakes in the wind but nothing like the 2018 February beast which gave 8 inches. Already seen reports of 8cm in Suffolk. On 07 Feb 2021, Ron Greer wrote: CRAIG: indeed and interestingly the recent runs of GFS are more like your prognosis with a classic airmass battle giving the potential for major rain/snow events. If the projections for late Feb comes to bear, on top of what is already happening, then we will remember this February--shades of 1986? Snow showers have really beefed up over the last 2 hrs and are beginning to settle On 07 Feb 2021, Rhys Jaggar wrote: A few snowflakes in the air in NW London but no snow overnight as previously forecasted. I don' think this stuff is going to stick unless the flakes get a lot bigger and the precipitation intensifies. Ron, I think the 'smidgen' definition of winter definitely depends where you are located. Glencoe ski area seems to have absolutely magnificent snow depths right now, so do the Cairngorms and Glenshee. It must drive all the owners of Scottish ski resorts to drink to know that last spring and now this winter, conditions would have been perfect to put their finances in order, but her holiness has shut them down. We haven't had anything extremely cold down here, but the winter has been colder than average, simply because we have had few mild spells either. Unlike the Northern Highlands, our precipitation levels for January have been much, much higher than average. 'British climate' contains innumerable competing regimens.... On 06 Feb 2021, Paddy, Aberdeen South, sub, 130m elevation wrote: 1˚C at 7.30 and for the rest of the day, obligate strong E’ly wind, light but constant wet snow & sleet showers all day turning to slush on the ground, wind weakening towards evening, somewhat crunchy underfoot by 8pm, so frost not far away, forecast is for sub zero minima for the next few days. That’s now 5 days we’ve had E’ly winds with no prospect of change, Greenland High looks like being firmly anchored. On 06 Feb 2021, Mark Hall wrote: Thanks George Whitebread, but you make Harribin sound too fair-minded. He is an AGW zealot, always pushing the Green nonsense that currently sees the average family paying £400 pa extra for their home energy. A few months ago he was advocating the replacement of natural gas with hydrogen without mentioning its tendency to dissolve in metals. The resulting embrittlement causing cracks that a molecule, 10 times smaller than methane, would find very inviting. Also highly problematic for storage and pipelines within our current grid for a gas that can spontaneously ignite when leaked into the external air. And they have to expensively manufacture the hydrogen gas first! These fools are all in place, unwittingly promoting their climate propaganda on behalf of the Eugenicists who want to get rid of 5 billion people from the face of this planet. On 06 Feb 2021, CraigM350 Berks 51N wrote: Ron you're right to be sceptical as only 2 days ago it showed the Atlantic pushing through but cold blocks are often resilient and poorly modelled at the best of times. Latest shows the Atlantic not making it as far and a Scandi high building. Having said that XMetman did point out how woeful the models have been for Scotland with the result cold air taking an age to arrive. We shall see but I think it looks promising On 06 Feb 2021, Ron Greer wrote: CRAIG & DAVID Thanks for your posts. As you know, I view GFS with more than a wee drop of scepticism, but they have not been that far off the mark in terms of the general synoptic scenario, but like the BBC, STV and the Norwegian weather service have over estimated the cold and snow. I experienced the winters of, 79- 81-82-84-85,86 1995/8 and of course 2008/-11. We have not had anything below -15C this year and only a handful of days around -10c. There has been about 7 weeks of coldish weather with frozen ground and lying snow, but the days when the -20C icon on the weather maps seemed to be parked over my house have simply not occurred in the last 10 years. It's +IC at the moment and there's been virtually no snow for 36 hours. Let's see what the next week brings. On 06 Feb 2021, @CraigM350 Berks 51N wrote: Thursday 18 Feb - Thursday 4 Mar Very low confidence for the middle of the month as there is a continued chance for unsettled, milder interludes arriving from the west or southwest. This produces a risk of disruptive snowfall during transition periods. Increased confidence at the end of February and the start of March for cold and mostly dry conditions. However, there remains a greater than normal threat of disruptive winter hazards for all areas most of February, with snowfall possible for all areas, but most likely in the east. // Like I said seems fair and is based on atmospheric disruption caused by the SSW. On 06 Feb 2021, @CraigM350 Berks 51N wrote: 9 - 18 Feb A cold start to the period with significant wind-chill, especially in eastern areas. Snow showers are likely across eastern Scotland, England, and perhaps eastern Northern Ireland, whilst plenty of bright sunny weather is likely further west. There is a small chance of a period of heavy snowfall across parts of southern England and Wales, most likely on Tuesday. As the period progresses, remaining cold or very cold with brisk winds. The best of any sunshine will be in the west. Snow showers and attendant wintry hazards continuing to affect eastern UK at times, especially at first, whilst the risk of organised rain and snow pushing into the south-west and across southern UK will slowly increase On 06 Feb 2021, @CraigM350 Berks 51N wrote: Sorry not 3 weeks of SSW (Sudden Stratospheric Warming) on the sun 😂 could of course have been caused by the sun but that's another matter lol /// Here's a snap shot of the l/t MetO forecast - looks reasonable tbh unlike the 3m summary which went for mild and has bitten the proverbial bottom....cont.... On 06 Feb 2021, @CraigM350 Berks 51N wrote: XMetman had some interesting stats on Jan for N Scotland === "Much colder than average, with a mean anomaly of -2.3°C making it the tenth coldest since 1884 and equal coldest with 2010, in fact it was the coldest January in 36 years (since 1985). Rather dry with just 69% of the 1981-2010 long term average rainfall. Much sunnier than average with 157% of the 1981-2010 long term average sunshine and the third sunniest since gridded records began back in 1929. /// Glenn - Norwich under amber warning from this evening with plenty of Eastern promise into the new week. Good luck everyone and stay safe🤞 On 06 Feb 2021, @CraigM350 Berks 51N wrote: Ron - don't be too quick to write off this spell. Also much of the GFS forecast looks based on mild 850s whilst the surface flow is much colder especially off the continent which is cooling fast. Staying cold looks more likely as it matches background signals and the northern hemisphere set up - look at the late cold into the US (Feb cold there and here aren't exclusive). Watching the radar over Scotland yesterday snow was quite clear inland but not so on the coasts and today the area of snow is quickly spreading south into Midlands. We are also entering a period with coronal holes over the N + S hemisphere of the sun. We've had 3 weeks of SSW on the sun (3 separate reversals of the zonal wind) which take at least a couple of months to flush down to the troposphere like 2013. We could be looking at a delayed spring yet again as the polar vortex has been missing all winter. Norway has been very cold of late and looks to be staying that way.... On 06 Feb 2021, David (Yorkshire) wrote: Ron, it will be up there with 2009/10 for Yorkshire, if we get further snow falls and sub zero day temps this week. Especially given that we could get further cold blasts in Feb! On 06 Feb 2021, Istvan ilyes wrote: I missed my name of my comm. It's for Glenn , hope you have read my post. It's about the snow in the Southeast. On 06 Feb 2021, Ron Greer wrote: Well, perhaps we should call this one The Smidgeon Winter as there has been a wee smidgeon of cold and snow now and again and certainly more wintery than the last few years. Looks as if it'll all be over by next Saturday and thereafter we'll be getting some warm spring weather. On 06 Feb 2021, Ron Greer wrote: Saw a few flakes of snow drifting in the wind this morning--nearest we got to the predicted snowmaggedon. Nothing much below 250-300 metres. Hope Glenn gets his wish. Beeb backtracking already. On 06 Feb 2021, George Whitebread wrote: With a fairly chilly January behind us and another cold spell imminent I thought I would share this comment from an article by THe BBC's Roger Harribin called " How Do We Heat Our Homes In A Zero Carbon Britain" Firstly he poses a very good question however the answers are not so easy and the main problem is stated thus... "At some date in the future, you will need to install clean heating. And be warned - it won't always be cheap, or convenient. What's more, we'll have to radically improve insulation, too, because some of the new-style kit can't heat the UK's cold, draughty houses." So there you have it. A future of poor quality, expensive and inconvenient methods to heat our homes in a cooling world. Utter madness!!! On 06 Feb 2021, Not supplied wrote: Hi Glenn. I too am waiting for snow. But as usual I am on the edge of any snow that may come. Although the snow seems to be from the East. That means cold if it precipitates. Its very rare that it snows here in the Southeast. On 06 Feb 2021, David (Yorkshire) wrote: Geoff - 🤣🤣🤣 the lot will go up. I do hope you get a fair bit Glenn. ❄❄⛄ On 05 Feb 2021, Andy (Chiltern Hills) wrote: I am praying that Glen wakes up in Narnia Sunday morning otherwise there could be trouble. On 05 Feb 2021, Paddy, Aberdeen South, sub, 130m elevation wrote: 3˚C at 7.30, continuing strong E’ly wind, frequent rain & snow showers but only beginning to stick a bit by evening, very wet stuff, 1˚ at 8pm. So far it’s just a wee sleekit timorous cowrin’ beastie from the E and looks like more rain tomorrow. == Ron, I think you’re probably better off without the What To Think Network :-) On 05 Feb 2021, Geoff wrote: Each time I watch the BBC weather forecast they keep taking more and more of Glenn's snow away!...I think it could be a case of East Angrier!! On 05 Feb 2021, Ron Greer wrote: They got it wrong again with the snow levels in this part of the amber warning area--nothing below 250 metres and a thaw of lying snow. Strong winds and heavy rain, still no TV signal since 1930 hrs last night, now 0940 hrs on 5th Feb On 04 Feb 2021, Ron Greer wrote: still no snow here, just driving sleety rain in high winds. TV and radio reception affected and the top end of the village has had a power cut. Rapid thaw of last month's snow at our level. Been bad higher up ( 300 metres) On 04 Feb 2021, David (Yorkshire) wrote: I would imagine 5-10 cm quite widely for the eastern side of England come Tuesday. More for the usual elavated areas and some places that get more frequent showers.Thst is based on previous set ups like this. On 04 Feb 2021, Paddy, Aberdeen South, sub, 130m elevation wrote: 2˚C all day, raw E’ly wind again, frequent showers of rain, occasional snow, thawing slush everywhere but at least the ice is mostly gone again, continuous rain by evening. The High east of Greenland looks immovable so we’ll likely have more of the same weather for the foreseeable future, no sunshine, no stargazing. On 04 Feb 2021, Ron Greer wrote: no 'snowmageddon' yet in m y part of Perthshire and though it started as wet flakes this morning it turned to heavier rain during the day. We are defo in the amber warning area put out by those using the standard models, who all seem to be overestimating the cold and have been doing so most of the week. Let's see how their forecast of the big chill turns out. On 04 Feb 2021, M Lewis wrote: Glenn in Norwich - you will get your Narnia wish this winter. The Russian Beast from the East is about to roar and stretch its mighty claws rights across the UK from Sunday onwards. Get your sledge on standby! Piers will have the last laugh after all! Well done! On 04 Feb 2021, Glenn wrote: It had better happen then. This really is last chance saloon for me. On 03 Feb 2021, Maria (Ireland sub) wrote: Yeah David it does look like interesting weather around the corner ❄ Just wondering has everyone else got Jan or Feb 30d subs as mine seems to have gone this year and I had paid for 2 12 month subs, one 12mth in Dec 2019 and another 12mth in Feb 2020 and nada in my forecast box? 🤔 On 03 Feb 2021, Paddy, Aberdeen South, sub, 130m elevation wrote: 1˚C at 7.30, snow mostly gone but whatever surface was wet from yesterday’s thaw turned into sheet ice in the strong & raw E’ly wind which blew all day, grey all day with clouds racing in from the sea and bringing occasional blizzardy showers, didn’t stick much though until the evening when things turned white again, 2˚ at 8pm. Yellow snow warning for the next few days, more likely rain for us in the coastal strip, even amber warning further inland for Fri & Sat, Ron, get your snow shoes out :-) On 03 Feb 2021, claude grayson wrote: while you N guys want cold we want a bit of rain .great spell of fine for harvesting of everything,but,the constant wind sucks out the moisture and no real rain is forecast till next wed/thur..our temp dropped to 7 yesterday, with the post sunup fridge effect and today its back up to 14 after an o/n L of 11 with a SE breeze.we did manage to get to 25.8 out in the paddock so glad i wasnt in town with all its concrete. On 03 Feb 2021, Tony ex sub wrote: Hi david I've got a 5 day snow warning ...I'll wait and see though On 03 Feb 2021, Ron Greer wrote: DAVID: Aye, amber warnings on Scotsbeeb forecast. Defo colder today with snow showers wandering in on stiff cold easterlies. GFS now aligning more with Norwegian model, though the latter has now taken a couple of degrees off the double figure frosts postulated for early next week. Faint echoes of 1947 and 63, but only faint. On 03 Feb 2021, David (Yorkshire) wrote: Looks like it could get interesting at the weekend. I would expect amber warnings for the East on sunday and Monday, from past experience! Looks like a 5/6 day very cold spell is higjhly likely now. ❄❄❄ On 02 Feb 2021, Andy B 45D wrote: Dr Roy Spencer's January chart is out 0.15C deg drop over the month https://www.drroyspencer.com/wp-content/uploads/UAH_LT_1979_thru_January_2021_v6.jpg full site https://www.drroyspencer.com/latest-global-temperatures/ 155mm of rain here in January On 02 Feb 2021, Paddy, Aberdeen South, sub, 130m elevation wrote: -4˚C overnight, -1˚ at 7.30, strong & cold ESE’ly wind all day, overcast but dry, gradually thawing through the day so that there is very little snow left now, with luck it’ll all go before the surface freezes again, 2˚ at 8pm, ground still frozen though. On 02 Feb 2021, claude grayson wrote: finally got this up and running again whenever they update something gets lost.. still our spell of fine weather persists down to 10 this morning after 24 yesterday.so the co2 effect just isnt working greta.someone ought to tell her.the usa is a bit snowed under.esp NY and CAL had feet of snow. maybe they hogging the snow you guys ought to be getting.at least down here folks are realizing that its all the concrete in towns whats heating up not out of town.but no squeaks in any media about cold anywhere just conspired colective silence. On 02 Feb 2021, M Lewis wrote: Snow chaos in Yorkshire and Derbyshire! https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-55899744 Atlast UK Meteorologists have said January this year was the coldest since 2010, with an average temperature of 2.2C. Dr Mark McCarthy, head of the Met Office's National Climate Information Centre (NCIC), said the month was "dominated by colder-than-average weather with only brief milder interludes". "A winter month as cold or colder than January 2021 used to occur in approximately seven out of 10 winters through the 20th Century," said Dr McCarthy. "In more recent decades this has dropped to around three in ten. So although we are still subject to cold weather in winter, these cold spells tend NOT to be as severe or as frequent as in the past." Carry on laughing! On 02 Feb 2021, David (Yorkshire) wrote: Sorry meant Tony🙃 On 02 Feb 2021, Ron Greer wrote: GFS going for breakdown of the 'cold' spell from the 9th, but Norwegian model going for double figure frosts around the same time: they both can't be correct. On 02 Feb 2021, Ron Greer wrote: Once again snowmageddon exaggerated up here and Beeb, now backtracking on earlier forecasts. I think they do this deliberately due to 'Michael Fish Syndrome' They underestimated the push of milder air northwards. Had some sleet around lunchtime, now raining and the 'bite' has gone out of the wind On 02 Feb 2021, David (Yorkshire) wrote: Andy no pobs was just my opinion yesterday morning. ECM still going with it, starting saturday. Woke up to another snowfall this morning. About 3cm but it won't stay around long! Looked nice tho first thing. On 01 Feb 2021, Paddy, Aberdeen South, sub, 130m elevation wrote: -2˚C at 7.30, light NW’ly breeze, we now have a covering of about 2 cm of snow, beautiful sunny day under the high pressure, short snow shower around midday, max temp 2˚, starry sky at night, already -3˚ at 8pm. Candlemas tomorrow, days beginning to lengthen perceptibly in the morning as well now. == Ron, I agree, not the coldest of winters but nevertheless, we’ve had frozen ground & ice for the whole of January which, in view of the years of mild winters, is pretty decent, good for getting rid of soil pests. On 01 Feb 2021, Tony ex sub wrote: Thanks for reply david ...I guess all eyes on wednesday have noticed even from the short time I wrote my piece 1 day next week already changed and temps for where I am up a degree .... On 01 Feb 2021, David (Yorkshire) wrote: Tony, ECM suggests cold dropping south again and then a cyclonic flow from the east later this week turning it very cold! This would possibly mean widespread snow showers from the East initially. However it could change between now and saturday. I woukd put that scenario at 60% and something less cold at 40% for much of England. Scotland will defo be very cold i reckon whatever happens. I think we will no for sure on wednesday to be honest. On 01 Feb 2021, Tony ex sub wrote: Is this the calm before the storm ????been looking at some forecasts for next week lots of snow about and real cold temps.......not sure how long before they change ....anyone on here more knowledgeable than me think its gonna be a cold snowy one ???? On 01 Feb 2021, Ron Greer wrote: We have had several double figure frosts this winter and there has been semi-continuous snow cover for a month. We had fresh snow last night and there's the potential for much more during most of this week. Not a patch on the 2008-11 winters and certainly not 1981/82 or 1978-79, but a real one. On 01 Feb 2021, M Lewis wrote: Winter is not over yet! I wonder how this dovetails with POTUS Biden's and Special Enyoy for Climate Kerry's man made global warming agenda and policies? https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-55882471 On 01 Feb 2021, Glenn wrote: With only 28 days to go now., time has ran out for a proper cold spell of weather with snow. This has been the third winter in a row without snow that is unless you live in London where they always get it when Norwich doesn't. On 31 Jan 2021, Paddy, Aberdeen South, sub, 130m elevation wrote: -5˚C at 7.30, second time this winter so far, fairly clear sky, light but sharp NW’ly wind, clouds streaming in with good sunshine in between, max temp 1˚ by afternoon, clouding up towards evening, light snow shower adding another few mm to the cover, -1˚ by 8pm. On 30 Jan 2021, Paddy, Aberdeen South, sub, 130m elevation wrote: -2˚C at 7.30, light dusting of snow, sharp NE’ly wind, some clouds but on the whole a sunny day with a max temp of 1˚, clear evening with the wind turning into the NW, -1 by 8pm. First snowdrops are out though, flowers visible but not open yet. On 30 Jan 2021, Andy Chilterns wrote: Rain this morning turned into sleet then a few hours of heavy snow On 30 Jan 2021, M Lewis wrote: Claude - please do not give up. Australia - New South Wales has just had record rainfall - heaviest in last 40 years! The BBC is not reporting it because it does not fit their drought, fire and scorching temperatures global warming agenda and narrative. https://www.9news.com.au/national/weather-storms-bring-heaviest-rain-in-decades-nsw-sydney-queensland-la-nina/e72bcb36-13ab-4597-b30f-56f3e782c21f https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9195419/Get-ready-SOAK-Australia-set-lashed-wild-storms-rain.html On 30 Jan 2021, Ron Greer wrote: Beeb backing off this weekend's cold severity as is the Norwegian model ( though still nippy a -7C) The latter is still predicting double-figure frosts for next weekend and quite a bit of snow for us midweek. GFS has backed off from the very severe early Feb spell it was predicting just last night. My estimate from my window thermometer is that we had around -5C this morning. On 29 Jan 2021, Paddy, Aberdeen South, sub, 130m elevation wrote: 2˚C at 7.30, overnight rain continuing all morning, brightening up only in the afternoon and still showery, max temp 3˚, strong, humid & cold NE’ly wind blowing all day, -1˚ at 8pm. Most of the ice has now gone at last but the ground is freezing again. On 29 Jan 2021, Ron Greer wrote: DAVID: that is indeed cold, but STV now backing off to -10C, the Norwegian model has been steady at around -8 to -9C. Beeb oscillating at -7 to -10C but the coming cold is agreed. The Norwegian model is also going for something a little colder for next weekend and GFS at the last run was going for a very cold E/NE blast 5-10th Feb, but we all know what GFS is like! Right now it has got colder and we have lots of lying snow, so if the skies clear that -10C is highly possible. On 29 Jan 2021, claude grayson wrote: Overnite L 5.8C and my weather stn has developed a strange thing that coincides with not being able to access a particular site on the web that certain people want to shut down.it shuts down for the hot period of the day from abt 1511 to 1638 when the temp was 16.5-16.6 so the Hi at the hottest part of the day is not recorded.of course being electronic ,all things electronic can be manipulated and i fear the real rot has begun where those who do follow the mainstream lies are being hounded into submission or face being cut off from society.My guess is they do not want our low Hi temps recorded by anyone but themselves so the true temps can be manipulated.might have to go back to the manual thermo. 0600 8.2 and slowly clouding over from the S.our forecast H 19 but i guess i wont be able to check that.could be an interesting week down here. On 29 Jan 2021, David (Yorkshire) wrote: Feels really mild today but only 9 degrees. Cold makes its way back south over the weekend. Which air mass will win out next week though?? That is bitterly cold Ron❄❄❄ On 29 Jan 2021, Ron Greer wrote: Local STV forecast going for -17C here tonight Beeb going for -7C--marginal difference, eh!? On 28 Jan 2021, Paddy, Aberdeen South, sub, 130m elevation wrote: 1˚C at 7.30, humid & cold E’ly breeze, rain starting up around 11 and continuing for the rest of the day, still going at 8pm, wind having turned into the NE, 2˚, ground still frozen under the top layer. == Rhys: the word Binntal brings back memories, was there for a study week in late 60s, in a village called Ernen, no recall of what we studied but remember the overconsumption of Fendant. On 28 Jan 2021, Ron Greer wrote: More wet snow today, then sleety rain with a slow thaw, but we've had snow lying here for 2 weeks and my seedbeds/pots are still frozen. GFS, Norwegian and our local forecasts going for a cold weekend, with the last suggesting severe double-figure frosts in excess of -15C for our area. No doubt it'll coincide with a power cut. On 28 Jan 2021, claude grayson wrote: something good for your eyes is the SOHO solar obs page and the hotshot montage of the sunspot cycle since 1996.of interest is how it shows the most sunspots of the 25y were 1999-2003. On 28 Jan 2021, claude grayson wrote: Has anyone informed the girl about the record snow in places,as we down here havent heard much about her for months..our warm spell is going and our temps have dropped to late autumn again.10c this morning and cold enough for snow on the high peaks,if there was precip.,but only showers in the forecast from now till next weekend .we will see,and cool E-SE for same.normally our hottest weather now so one can only hope the people take notice,but as someone said most people no longer work outdoors so dont feel the weather anymore,and when they step out of work to go home it feels much hotter than the aircon ,office did so of course its warming up. On 28 Jan 2021, Rhys Jaggar wrote: Snow gone yesterday from NW London with steady rainfall overnight into Thursday morning. Looks like a short mild spell then maybe a return to colder conditions. Several higher valley stations in Switzerland between 1200 and 1800m recorded record snow depths for 28th January this morning: upper Rhone, upper Rhein and upper Engadin all posting records, a few by wide margins (e.g. Curaglia 1330m 115cm vs previous 75cm record; Binntal 145cm vs old record of 104cm). On 27 Jan 2021, Maria (Ireland sub) wrote: Monday 25th ice left over snow and frost making for dodgy roads -4/-5 some lovely sunny spells and cirrus clouds very cold despite sun, a slight thaw but underestimated by how much and went walking after lunch and roads in places were really bad had to women up and keep on walking. Frost at first but later in the night scattered outbreaks of rain. Tuesday milder as the day progressed showers off n on. Foggy this morning rain was forecast for late morning but followed my intuition and went on for the walk it remained cloudy but rain did not come till after lunch. Milder again and rinse n repeat looks on the cards as the battleground keeps playing out. On 27 Jan 2021, Paddy, Aberdeen South, sub, 130m elevation wrote: 1˚C at 7.30, ground frozen but wet from overnight rain, light NW’ly breeze, overcast all day with a max temp of 3˚, clearer by evening with the almost full moon illuminating everything, -1˚ by 8pm. On 26 Jan 2021, Ron Greer wrote: another snowfall today, briefly turning sleety, then back to snow. Latest GFS run looks very chilly for the first 10days of Feb. Glenn might even see snow in Norwich and we all could get severe frosts---BUT---after all--it's GFS ! On 26 Jan 2021, Paddy, Aberdeen South, sub, 130m elevation wrote: -2˚C at 7.30, a mostly overcast day with a light SW-W’ly wind, max temp 1˚ by afternoon and staying that until 8.30pm when we had some light rain, perfect setup for more ice as the ground hasn’t thawed at all. On 26 Jan 2021, claude grayson wrote: yesterday was one of those boring days here virtuallly no cloud from mid morning and still the same this morning at . 0600. .Managed 24,9c and a o/n L 11c.highest temp in nz was 37.5c down ashburton airport,taken on the hot side of the runway.i looked up where the weather stn was located and sure enough. ,no wonder our temps are rising. someone suggested too that if sea levels are rising the place to check is tidal rivers and if rising the tide must be going further inland.havent heard any one complaining yet. On 25 Jan 2021, Paddy, Aberdeen South, sub, 130m elevation wrote: 2˚C at 7.30, NW’ly wind and light rain/sleet showers but brightening up after 9 and giving us another sunny day with some clouds, max temp 4˚, very clear moonlit evening; as always in January, it will be the highest full moon of the year on Thursday, -1˚ at 8pm. On 25 Jan 2021, David (Yorkshire) wrote: Glenn with an SSW in play and the potential for a southerly tracking jet stream for a few more weeks, the Uk could well the following- Stalling weather fronts producing snow falls, north/east winds giving sleet and snow showers at times. Maybe even something bitterly cold. However, all of this is expected to miss Norwich!! On 25 Jan 2021, Sou'wester, Devon/Cornwall coastal border wrote: When I was growing up, we were often told that there was about a six-week time lag between the solstices and the peak of summer or winter. Hence it is normally the hottest in late July to early August, and coldest in late January to early February. That is why the Native Americans celebrated Groundhog Day on February 2nd. Hold your horses, Glenn - your last Norwich snow was in February. ... And this is a La Nina year. I'm inclined to think that the groundhog is going to see his shadow this February. On 25 Jan 2021, claude grayson wrote: and while you up north freeze and enjoy the snow we down here are thinking of moving up. the forecast for christchurch is 36c today .nothing unusual but making some headlines where as the unseasonal cold of last week didnt .funny really how bias works,manipulating societys thinking so they react the way you want. Last night was another warm one down to 15 then back up to 17+ by 0600and a blanket of Scu.that may drop a little drizzle in some areas but all will be gone by mid morning. On 25 Jan 2021, Glenn wrote: To all you who have had proper snow this winter, i hope you are pleased with yourselves. Also i envy anyone of you who had the priviledge of witnessing the 1963 winter. Not only did you have better weather, you had better everything. On 25 Jan 2021, Glenn wrote: When is norwich going to get a proper spell of cold snowy weather like we had in February 2018. Something has obviously happened to norwichs climate since then as we cant get any decent winter weather. This is a fake cold spell that didnt deliver. On 25 Jan 2021, Glenn wrote: So that's it then for snow this winter. I hope people living in london are pleased with themselves that they got it and I haven't. This is exactly the same thing that hapenned on 10th December 2017. On 24 Jan 2021, Maria (Ireland sub) wrote: Just enough snow to make a small snowman 😅 The ground not as hard underfoot as early Januarys snow and not as much of it but still we had good fun. When on today's walk there was a good bit here n there to walk on and crunch, some slush, the landscape around was pretty and it was fairly cold, like get home and make soup kinda cold. Lovely starry night sky and freezing out. On 24 Jan 2021, Ron Greer wrote: DAVID my tree seed and seedling beds have been frozen hard for a month. Haven't been like this for years. No problems with chilling to break seed dormancy this year, but the mild Nov/early encouraged a few early sprouters. NICK I haven't got any certain feeling about early Feb, just observing the twists and back flips of GFS, but the battleground of the colder NE air and the milder SW air looks messy and shifting. The Beeb have certainly backtracked a bit on the rapidity and duration of this weeks milder spell. On 24 Jan 2021, Paddy, Aberdeen South, sub, 130m elevation wrote: -3˚C at 7.30, clear sky, light W’ly wind, sunny morning but hazing up by afternoon, max temp 1˚, dropping soon enough to 0˚ by 8pm. We now have roughly 1 hour longer daylight since equinox, appreciably so, mornings are still slow to catch up. On 24 Jan 2021, David (Yorkshire) wrote: 26th was my landing date for a response to the SSW in our neck of the woods. Lets see what evolves. Not got above feezing here today, after -4 in the night. Had more frosts this winter than the last 5 put together, i reckon. On 24 Jan 2021, Nick, Berks wrote: My experience today very similar to Craig's, ~4cm snow and lovely grippy stuff that makes good snowballs and a satisfying creak underfoot. As someone who walks the countryside a lot it was particularly satisfying to find that underneath the snow in exposed areas the ground was properly frozen for the first time this winter: a welcome change from the mud of recent weeks. Not cold enough for long enough yet so still a bit of a mire underneath trees. The snow won't last long as we head towards another mild spell but today was a glorious day. Unlike Craig and Ron I'm not holding my breath for anything special in February but we'll see. Down here at least all the last hype about BfE 2 came to naught. Cold today but not a breath of wind so reasonably pleasant out despite a lack of sun. On 24 Jan 2021, Glenn wrote: The snow that was forecast didn't turn up once again for Norwich. It's always everywhere else in uk apart from me that get to experience it. I guess I will have to wait until next winter now another chance has gone straight out of the window. I would be prepared to break restrictions and travel to London and risk getting a fine just to see the snow. On 24 Jan 2021, Andy(Chiltern Hills) wrote: Heavy snow from 9am this morning until 2pm, max 0 Deg C. On 24 Jan 2021, Ron Greer wrote: CRAIG: your last comment was most prescient as the latest GFS wobble hints at easterlies in early February and a reduced period of Atlantic air before that. On 24 Jan 2021, Rhys Jaggar wrote: 3hrs of heavy steady snowfall in NW London has yielded 10cm of snow lying. It is now starting to snow less heaviily, so the majority of it is done and it is forecast to be a clear and frosty night. Next door neighbour's (U8) children experiencing snow in their garden as I speak and making a snowman. Sacrilege! On 24 Jan 2021, @CraigM350ppm Berks, 51N wrote: 2 inches of the stuff that children just weren't supposed to know anymore this morning. Actually the 4th fall with a single small snowball eeked of the car one morning the best effort before now. Came down in 2 hrs with big fat 5-10 pence sized flakes in the heavier moments, slighter for the last hr and now cleared. It's pivoting so midlands looks sweet spot for the next few hours. - 3C last night so just edging coldest of winter so far and about 1C now with dps just above freezing but with snow cover will be colder tonight. // Winter has been a rinse and repeat of warm/cold with cold mostly winning although the focus is on the north so far. Models are usually hopeless at judging the resilience of cold and are all too quick to push through Atlantic air. Many winters we think of classic were very much more north based, only later in winter does it affect the south and that is usually when things turn more E/NE based - something to keep a watch on over the next month. On 24 Jan 2021, M Lewis wrote: Met Office only finally gave a Yellow weather warning of Snow at 08:03hrs UTC this morning, Sunday 24 January 2021. They are as useful as a chocolate fire guard. So much for their £1.2 Billion weather forecasting computers and equipment. Paid for by us UK Tax Payers. https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2020/feb/17/met-office-developing-worlds-most-advanced-weather-computer Guess what follows next - no need for a computer - Computer Says No! Massive snow melt and floods. On 24 Jan 2021, Ron Greer wrote: Well good old GFS has done the somersault I predicted yesterday and now is showing more or less the opposite airstream source. You couldn't invent this, but they can!! Twas -5 on my window thermometer this morning, but obviously much lower away from the building. Might get some snow on the front edge of the Atlantic weather coming later this week. On 24 Jan 2021, Rhys Jaggar wrote: Steady snowfall in NW London this morning, Sunday 24th january 2021. Third day of the month that snow has fallen. To date none of it has lasted, nor has it ever reached a depth of even one inch. On 24 Jan 2021, M Lewis wrote: Well the Met Office is in denial and uses perverse headline statements in its latest official forcecasts. "Remaining cold with potential for further heavy rain" author: Met Office Press Office 14:10 hrs UTC. Friday 22 January 2021. When will MPs take their leaders to task and give them a dressing down and demand corrective action? On 23 Jan 2021, Maria (Ireland sub) wrote: Light frost yesterday morning clearing quickly with sunny spells, great day for walking and a bit of clearing up last summers debris in the garden, temp dropped quick though & the small lil bit extra length to the day beginning to notice. After a hard frost another beautiful sunny albeit cold day today with frost only partly clearing in places, a good day to amend veg plots that have become empty of Swede and cabbage, good job had previously dug up some huge parsnips as the ground stayed mostly frozen solid all day. Snow showers followed tonight, the tiny one so excited to see a light covering of snow before bed, just hope some around In the morning as iv'e a snow date with her after breakfast 🤞😅 On 23 Jan 2021, Paddy, Aberdeen South, sub, 130m elevation wrote: -2˚C at 7.30, clear sky & light W’ly wind, turning into a fabulously sunny winter’s day, max temp 1˚ but hard frost lasting all day, clear moonlit evening, -2 again by 8pm. We’ve not been able to harvest any corn salad as it has been frozen or under iced snow since the beginning of the year, but we’ve got an ample supply of indoor forced chicory by way of crunchy winter greens, or whites rather. On 23 Jan 2021, David (Yorkshire) wrote: Ron it seems like rinse and repeat with these cold shots.Even the South getting a few cms tomorrow, by the looks of it. Every milder spell is being over stated too by the Beeb! Could do without any more rain or snow for a couple of weeks now but it aint gunna happen. On 23 Jan 2021, Ron Greer wrote: Another very sharp frost last night, but it will be nothing compared to the profoundly cold polar maritime outbreak predicted by GFS for the 5th/6th February--but from experience just watch this vanish by the next couple of runs On 23 Jan 2021, stephen parker wrote: Re Rhys Jaggar, you have your wish now, very cold today and tomorrow. On 22 Jan 2021, Paddy, Aberdeen South, sub, 130m elevation wrote: 2˚C at 7.30, cloudy with a cold NW’ly wind, sleet & snow showers (not sticking) until 10, then sunshine for the rest of the day, max temp 3˚, wind abating towards evening, -1˚ by 8pm. On 22 Jan 2021, claude grayson wrote: M.Lewis ,they are all panicing,wanting to get their crazy theory to work. They have to get stuff done before they get foundout. Meanwhile down in the sothern hemi in NZ it will be interesting to see what overall temps they give for our summer,we of course will be expecting a much higher temp than what we have had.The true temp will be hidden by taking the highest temps they can and ave them out to reflect what they have been saying that we are warming..When those who are out in the weather know its been cooler than normal.and any decenters will be silenced.The current spell of cool weve been having looks like extending into next week now but thats only our little patch.,cloudy nite and morning with showers intersperced.A deep low to the south is shoving our normal hot summer further N. Feb will be intereasting. facebk have sensored my last post on my home page so i have deleted my self from FB.They dont like what THEY see as false info. according to them.WHO will be next? On 22 Jan 2021, M Lewis wrote: The USA has dramatically raised the stakes on climate change. US Special Presidential Envoy John Kerry stated that time was very short and the world was currently moving much too slowly to avoid dangerous warming. To get to net zero emissions by the middle of the century, he said, the world needed to phase out coal five times faster than in recent years. https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-55751936 The Earth really does need to start cooling now to prove him wrong. The summer in Australia, New Zealand and Antarctica is playing out now. Will it deliver significantly lower average temperatures? On 21 Jan 2021, Maria (Ireland sub) wrote: Light frost this morning clearing with sunny spells but remaining cold partly cloudy afternoon into evening. On 21 Jan 2021, Paddy, Aberdeen South, sub, 130m elevation wrote: 2˚C at 7.30 and right through the day and evening, starting off with a strong NE’ly wind bringing rain & sleet all morning, quickly getting rid of last nights dusting of snow, drying up after midday, wind moving into the NW, still windy by 8pm and still icy patches around. On 21 Jan 2021, Rhys Jaggar wrote: NO sign of cold returning to NW London imminently. There does seem to be snow lying at low levels across a lot of Scotland though - pictures I have seen from Inverness, Aviemore, Roy Bridge, Leadhills do suggest widespread low level snow. And plenty of drifting into the gullies of Glencoe ski area does suggest that there will be a good base to ski on if restrictions get lifted in early March, SW gales and torrential rain notwithstanding. Plenty of January rain down here means that water tables should be getting plenty of replenishment this winter: October was off the charts, the next three months have been wetter than average (not hugely). It just shows you that the characteristic of the UK is that if you get two years of drought, you tend to get two years of heavy rain thereafter...happened in 1975/6 and again in 2018/19. On 21 Jan 2021, Ron Greer wrote: total non event so far at 0725 hrs Thursday; no rain, no snow, no hard frost, no fog, no wind, just calm and cloudy, but let's see what later in the day brings. On 21 Jan 2021, stephen parker wrote: As usual down here in South Hertfordshire all we got was light rain while from the Midlands up its Armageddon. Yes, the ground is sodden and the rivers high. As my old mate in the pub says, '' you don't move north son, only south'' On 20 Jan 2021, Maria (Ireland sub) wrote: Light sleety rain shower or 2 late morning but dry all afternoon, i thought more rain was originally forecast but it was not to be here, looks like it was further north from us as see it on the rain radar before heading out, temp dropped noticeably as the day progressed and my legs were so frozen when I got home just before dark it took a coffee with Morgans to defrost them :) partly cloudy 1 deg feeling colder @ 11.40pm. Do all the signs point to colder spell in February and also I'm not sure if its wishful thinking but will we get an early Spring this year 🤔 Ps Thanks Paddy :-) On 20 Jan 2021, Paddy, Aberdeen South, sub, 130m elevation wrote: 0˚C at 7.30, ground still frozen but feeling less cold in the light NW’ly breeze that kept going all day, overcast for the duration, max temp 1˚ and still that at 8pm. Very wet day forecast tomorrow, the centre of the Low is NE of us, being squeezed between the Russian and Greenland Highs, so I wonder how this is going to work out. == Yes, Ron, same here, on Monday they forecast heavy rain today, revised downward yesterday and nothing today, apart from a few flakes of snow tonight, a nowcasting technique known as donkey tail. == Welcome back, Maria! On 20 Jan 2021, claude grayson wrote: fires going this morning cos we ,are down to 10 5c o/n L 9.7c,still cold showers forecast,and still snowing on the mtns.not much snow or rain ,we only got 5mm yesterday.one wonders how the greenies plan to heat homes when theres no sun and no wind yet so cold. i wonder how many of them have a fossil fuel or woodburner going this morning. our met are thinking this could go on for another week yet. On 20 Jan 2021, Ron Greer wrote: light dusting of powdery-drizzly snow this morning. MeteoBeeb humming and hawing, bigging up and littling down' amount and impacts of Thursday's snow in Scotland, both in words and in graphics. Last night it was blizzards, drifts and power cuts and this morning it was some appreciable falls in upland areas in the Grampians. They don't really know. On 20 Jan 2021, Maria (Ireland sub) wrote: Happy new year all 🥳 hope your all well, had some needed time out and been experiencing the weather first hand and took back up walking and jogging most days and have shed 22 pounds, has been crazy fun in the rain, sleet snow at times lately, bursts of warm sunshine back in Nov. worst the wind at times so cold reminds me of cross country running many years ago, red faced n covered in mud, yep gardening withdrawals kicked in! So, we had below average temps with lots of frost ice and a covering of snow the first 9 days of Jan. the 6th was very icy couldn't even get on the road that day until the 7th when the snow gave us enough of a covering to walk on. A gradual thaw from the morning 10th feeling milder, brief blustery spells and rain a lot of on 12th milder then cooler but not cold 14th, brief respite to garden 16th n 17th with light frost n sunny spells, back walking in drizzle yesterday, lots of rain today 19th sleety then mild, just waiting for the cold to push back on in to On 19 Jan 2021, Paddy, Aberdeen South, sub, 130m elevation wrote: -1˚C at 7.30, clear sky & hard frost with a light SW’ly breeze which turned more into the W by late afternoon, hazing up pretty soon so that we had a brightish day but no visible sun, max temp 0˚, going down by late afternoon to hit -1˚ again by 8pm. Rain was forecast for tomorrow but they’ve changed their story, snow for Central Scotland though, apparently. On 19 Jan 2021, claude grayson wrote: rain we got, showers we have, 25mm yesterday and down the south island skifeilds they have summer snow .by 11am yesterday 8cm and still falling and i read they expect more today and tomorrow.mmm must surely be global warming.couldnt possibly be just a cycle of the sun affecting our weather could it now.but no doubt this cold spell will be hidden in the averaged temp ,theyll mix it in withthe day time highs and get a better higher temp for summer that wont show we had a cooler summer than normal. we are down to 12 C at 0600 and a moderate shower is passing. On 19 Jan 2021, M Lewis wrote: It is right and welcome that Piers has kept his silence about the weather this winter. We live in dangerous times and much of the media would have crowed and done their upmost to discredit and destroy him. Met Office and MeteoGroup only react to weather events - for example belated UK flood warnings given on Sunday this week. Anyone who goes for a walk outside each day for the past month or so cannot have failed to notice the flooded, saturated and waterlogged roads, paths and fields. Whenever we get a spell of cold weather the 'official' weather forecasters avoid like the plague using the word 'snow' and simply say it will be wet with the chance of a few wintry showers. They need to be taught a big lesson. On 19 Jan 2021, Ron Greer wrote: Synoptic charts for Thursday look quite like the 1984 scenario that gave us a massive snow dump with disruptive impacts followed by double figure night frosts. We can but wait. On 18 Jan 2021, stephen parker wrote: Mark Hall: LOL On 18 Jan 2021, David (Yorkshire) wrote: Geoff the time he has not and it has been cold🤣 On 18 Jan 2021, Geoff wrote: Qudos to Piers for not flagging-up a public warning of an especially cold winter, this year...Despite the P.V being absolutely torn to shreds, it just goes to show that weather (let alone climate) is a far more delicate and complicated balance of competing forces. On 18 Jan 2021, Ron Greer wrote: not just GFS predictions that oscillate in a short time. Last night the Norwegian forecast for my area from Friday coming to the following Monday was for night frosts of -9 to -12 C. This morning it's changed to -6 to -9C. Both GFS and this one going for heavy snow here on Thursday. Only been a slow thaw here and the ground remains substantially snow covered. It's actually a nice winter's day. On 18 Jan 2021, Sou'wester, Devon/Cornwall coastal bordersder wrote: The Daily Mail is reporting that the Sahara Desert has had a blanket of snow this month. It also happened in January in 2017 and 2018. Someone has posted in the comments section, "Greta, do you have an answer?" On 17 Jan 2021, Paddy, Aberdeen South, sub, 130m elevation wrote: 2˚C at 7.30 at thermometer height but hard ground frost, clear sky to begin with but then clouding over for the morning, SW’ly wind all day, fairly sunny for a while in the afternoon with a max of 4˚, then some light rain and back down to 2˚ by 8pm. On 17 Jan 2021, claude grayson wrote: we got our few drops 2.1mm ,teaser rain locally others got much more including a little bit of flooding and the odd thunder clap.of interest in this warming planet ??? is the 3 day forecast which shows cold enough for snow at least on all the mtn tops today and Wed. as a few fronts move across.gust breeze to 28k temp overnite down to 13 and with windchill cool enough for a few more layers of clothing.mid summer!!!! On 17 Jan 2021, Mark Hall wrote: In the 60s our house was so damp, we had the guttering on the inside. On 16 Jan 2021, Paddy, Aberdeen South, sub, 130m elevation wrote: 3˚C at 7.30, remnants of the heavy overnight rain still going, fresh SW’ly wind, darkish morning but brightening up by midday, very sunny afternoon with a max of 4˚, clear starlit evening, wind turning more W’ly, 2˚ at 8pm, ice remaining only in patches. On 16 Jan 2021, stephen parker wrote: Yes Ron, i refuse to have a cold house now, i probably go over the top. It left its mark on me. On 16 Jan 2021, claude grayson wrote: down here we have a drop of the good stuff arriving after a week of cloudy mostly dry ,22 + days and 13+ nights so it will be welcome here but probly not down the south where a heavy rain warning is in force. Ron,you would not be in the greenies goodbooks down here they are hellbent on getting rid of firstly fossil fuels, then all fuels that produce co2,and want us to rely on renewables ie electricty ,but no we cant build new hydro schemes ,nor can we do nuclear, so enjoy your wood burner while you can before the idiotic disease spreads.any woodburner here that can be closed down at night is out. we must rely on wind and solar,,both of which are not constant.esp at nite and cant be stored easily.Nutters. On 16 Jan 2021, Rich wrote: SE Cambs managed a whole 1cm before quickly turning to heavy rain, suspect Glen maybe disapointed! No sign of SSW impacting UK with average temps next 2 weeks, on track so far to be an underwhelming wet winter again , at least not silly mild as recent years. Unless stars perfectly align, getting a good cold spell seems to be getting harder. Despite cold/chilly spell Jan CET around 1.2 below average, suspect just under by month's end. Oh for a good dry spell and hard frosts! As per Alistair I grew up in E York's in 80s and 90s and remember cold winters with snow well, in short supply these days ! Supposedly 3rd warmest year on record 2020. On here few comments that 2021 will be the start of the change to cold? So quite a change expected from 3rd warmest year to colder trend next 12 months, be interesting to see who's right? On 16 Jan 2021, Ron Greer wrote: GEOFF: no doubt though that it will just miss Glenn's house by a 100 metres ! Had another few cms here last night, but much more just a few kms south at the Highland edge. STEPHEN PARKER: lived through that in the 1960s sink estate we were transferred from the old Victorian slums in Govanhil ( which suffered less) and again in a 1960s-built bungalow in Highland Perthshire during the record cold of 1981-82. Norwegian sheep inwintering buildings are far superior. These experiences taught me the value of having a multi-fuel stove that proved its worth during the winters of 2008-11, which of course included the record cold December of 2010 Piers had predicted. On 16 Jan 2021, stephen parker wrote: 6.30 am and been snowing here in rickmansworth for at least an hour On 15 Jan 2021, Paddy, Aberdeen South, sub, 130m elevation wrote: 0˚C at 7.30, quite a sunny day with a sharply penetrating cold SW’ly wind, max temp 1˚, yellow snow warning for tomorrow but looks more like rain in our part of the country. Ice continues to persist, no thaw today. We had brilliant sunshine for most of the day but N & S of us there was thick fog rolling in off the N Sea, beautiful to see in contrast to the sunlight but murky when you were in it. On 15 Jan 2021, Geoff wrote: Just seen snow in the forecast for East Anglia...So, I think, Glenn maybe getting a few inches tonight On 15 Jan 2021, stephen parker wrote: Istvan. I remember it well Crital metal framed windows, draughty as hell, single coal fire and parafin heaters, no insulation and having to put coats on top of the bed, having to get the ladder out and a kettle of hot water to try to unfreeze the bathroom pipes, ice in the bath and basin, blimey what would the young people do now? Especially if there was a power cut and their devices wont work! LOL On 15 Jan 2021, David (Yorkshire) wrote: Amber warning for the South East. Typical no more than 5cm will fall near London but they get an amber warning. No doubt if they get 2cm down South, it will make the main headlines!! On 15 Jan 2021, claude grayson wrote: yep Istvan ,we couldnt survive esp now so many covid strains are around and they thrive in cold when our immune systems are already low. For those of you who explore the net a look at, NASA Ozone Watch, will show you that on the 13 of jan you guyin UK were under a hole or so close to one. Suspicious Observers is another ive found interesting,and this morning no exception ,on the global temps where we are shown the public released version and the raw data version which tells the true story we arent getting hotter only the public version shows that NOT the raw data,which shows we wouldnt be in the top 10 for warm years but will be told its the warmest on record.ALWAYS ? the official version for political interference On 15 Jan 2021, Istvan ilyes wrote: Claud. I was just 11years old during the winter of 1963. I lived in Bedford in the home counties North of London. It was a dreadfully winter. Our plumbing had froze for the duration of winter, whilst we had a pathetic little coal fire and a paraffin heater and lino flooring with rattling single pane windows Snow just kept on coming week after week. Temps were very low, minus minus! We would not survive another winter like. On 15 Jan 2021, Rhys Jaggar wrote: https://www.severe-weather.eu/global-weather/winter-weather-pattern-forecast-january-2021-usa-europe-fa/ is calling for a major outbreak of cold across North America and wide parts of Europe and Russia from late January and well into February. The authors are comparing the historic cold of 1929 to the predicted outcomes in 2021, based on retrospective analysis of temperature and pressure patterns recorded 92 years ago (before the days when an SSW could be measured directly). Although they do not think temperatures will get as cold as 1929, they are talking about temperatures which don't happen in Europe that often (maybe 3 or 4 times the past 50 years). I have identified four measuring stations in Switzerland showing record snowdepths for 15th January: Sedrun (1420m) -135cm; Obersaxen (1420m) - 172cm; Goescheneralp (1550m) - 166cm; and Pusserein (940m) - 132cm. The altitude of those stations shows that record snow is falling in the valleys. On 15 Jan 2021, Sou'wester, Devon/Cornwall coastal borders wrote: Since Craig reported on the 11th, our winds down here turned SWly, causing the daily temps up to hover around 50F, and bringing with them our typical damp murkiness from off the Atlantic. No flooding, just dampness. It's been a nice respite arriving at my Portakabin office to find it 50F inside on arrival instead of around 35F like last week! But this morning the Eastern sky was all peachy pink - sailors' warning? it's a lot colder today - 40F inside on arrival at the office. Maybe that's why I saw a squadron of geese flying south a couple of days ago. On 15 Jan 2021, David (Yorkshire) wrote: Crunchy under foot this morning. Roads were really icy yesterday and last night. Cannot understand why the weather warnings were only yellow?? Surely heavy snow and ice should be amber! On 14 Jan 2021, Paddy, Aberdeen South, sub, 130m elevation wrote: 3˚C at 7.30, overcast with a fresh SE’ly wind, not as much rain as forecast, ice not gone everywhere yet, our tree standing out area is still like an ice rink, drizzle and 2˚ by 8pm, snow has stayed in the West. Ron, treacherous is still our watchword here in the persistently frozen bits. On 14 Jan 2021, claude grayson wrote: last nite i watched a bbc vid.about the big freeze of 1963 many of you will have lived in that time,so tell me do we really want that again or do we want global warming or at least a hint of it. a recent paper says as the ice melts at the poles the earth will cool so the forecast is for cold.Global Warming is to be enjoyed while it is here before the cold sets in again. On 14 Jan 2021, Ron Greer wrote: RICH: aye, more backtracking on PM outbreaks in GFS projections. On 14 Jan 2021, Ron Greer wrote: it has now stopped snowing for the first time since last evening. Now just a light sleety rain and something of a thaw on. Will be treacherous if there is a frost tonight. On 14 Jan 2021, David (Yorkshire) wrote: Make that 6 cm and still going! On 14 Jan 2021, Alistair wrote: Still no snow here in Hull East Yorkshire even though everyone else in Yorkshire seem to be getting it. I've hardly seen any snow here for 6 years now. Its becoming a real drought .The last time I can remember such a period was in the late 80s when we had about three snowless years. This though is the longest snowless period in my 60 something years of living here. It does make me wonder sometime if the global warmists could be right. I just don't know what to believe. On 14 Jan 2021, Rhys Jaggar wrote: Transient melting of snow at Glencoe Ski Area has been replaced by snowfall down to the car park again. The bases will need to go through freeze-thaw cycles again if they wish to be long-lasting but it's pretty normal January mountain weather. Switzerland + Western Austria have had 50-120cm of new snow, down to the valleys. Some sites in the upper rhine now have historically high levels of snow e.g. Siat, Innerglas and Zervreila. Another significant snowfall for the next 24hrs will see record levels recorded for this time of year. Down here in NW London we are getting our month's worth of January rain this week during 5 days of 'normal' temperatures. All historically 'normal'. On 14 Jan 2021, David (Yorkshire) wrote: Moderate snow here this morning. About 3cm settled, not that cold though, so it will probably melt later! On 14 Jan 2021, Ron Greer wrote: About 12cms here since last night, with light snow still falling. No wind, so no drifting. Still hanging on to overhead lines and tree branches and not sliding off cars, so air mass still quite chilly. PADDY: my seedbeds and containers have been frozen for two weeks. On 13 Jan 2021, Paddy, Aberdeen South, sub, 130m elevation wrote: -1˚C at 7.30, bright for a few hours in the morning, light NW’ly wind, clouding over from the W and thawing slightly in the afternoon to reach a temp of 1˚ by 8pm, not a breath of wind by then. Some rain forecast for tomorrow but the ground will likely remain frozen as we’ve now had persistent frost for more than two weeks. On 13 Jan 2021, Rich wrote: I've seen this film so many times, increasingly it seems, talk of decent cold snap in many forecasts that slips away, appears again and keeps slipping back, result snow cold over highground North and Scotland, nothing in lowland South and East. To be fair local BBC forecast 14 day has pretty much nailed trends in SE Cambs, generally sticking to West winds variable temps, unlike many other models. West wind not known for deep cold and snow, least not in these parts! On 13 Jan 2021, claude grayson wrote: Stephen, our met down here are known to be 80-85% accuracy up to 3 days out,and one day out, its certainly true.When i used to do obs.they said that all the obs were fed into the 3 supercomputers round the world 1 in england, one in usa, one in europe,and in exchange for data the computers fed back a forecast.If all 3 gave the same forecast all was good and it was accurate but if all 3 gave a different one it was up to the local guys to decide which to go with and sometimes they chose wrong.We now have our own super computer so our forecasts have improved but only 3 days out.They all rely on data and not much realtime obs any more,sat pics ,feild machines all of which cant interpret what a human eye can.Therein lies the problem On 13 Jan 2021, David (Yorkshire) wrote: Well snow alerts for the North this week, as i suspected might be the case! As i posted the other day the general pattern for next week looks simular to the first cold spell but maybe a bit more potent. It can all change tho, so expect the unexpected! On 13 Jan 2021, stephen parker wrote: Its my view that these models always over estimate the severity of these cold snaps this far out. I would say there's a 30% chance of this coming to pass here in Southern Britain. Im as guilty as anyone but believing the models more than five days out you might as well ask Mystic Meg or the Daily Express. On 12 Jan 2021, Paddy, Aberdeen South, sub, 130m elevation wrote: 0˚C at 7.30, light dusting of overnight snow, hard frost, NW’ly breeze and very sunny all day, max temp almost 1˚, clouding up towards evening but still with stars visible, 0˚ at 8pm. On 12 Jan 2021, claude grayson wrote: so warm here 14c overnite and still 22 inside with the fanlights open all nite to allow the mozzies in.they are sugesting Cbs this morming and the clouds are looking unstable so maybe. Spare a thought for the USA where theyve got record snow down in texas and the same in japan.so dont dispair yet you guys. Was doing a bit of dendro yesterday and when you see a very narrow ring between wide ones its going to be one of two things usually, very dry or very cold and neither is wanted.My cuz in Norway says their harbour is just beginning to freeze over -14c,so i wont complain about our +14c. On 12 Jan 2021, Ron Greer wrote: RICH: Yes quite a difference in the GFS chart run at 10-15 and the one I looked at at 16-27hrs, but still chilly from the 19th-28th or so. Never seen the polar maritime back to the west so strongly, but if it becomes more northerly we'll be in for a hard time. On 12 Jan 2021, Istvan ilyes wrote: Istvan ilyes Some how my name got lost on my last comm. On 12 Jan 2021, I wrote: Hi all. The winter of 1947 started on the 25th of January. There is still hope for a good snow event this winter. Although I am not sure that we could cope with a winter like 1947. On 12 Jan 2021, stephen parker wrote: Its looking like a wet week here in Hertfordshire, then who knows for next week?. Models have promised much before only to let us down. I don't think my chickens will enjoy it very much, as they don't like the rain and hunker down under the chicken house, they wouldn't like snow!. If we do get snow it will be a major headache for the govt, as no way all the children off school will stay in, it could also delay the vaccination effort. Its been a while here in the south part of Britain since we've had a disruptive snow event, only a week to wait to know. On 11 Jan 2021, @CraigM350, Sub Berks wrote: Today has seen the first time since Boxing day we've had above average temperatures - 8C max 4C min. We're running at least 3C below average here. Days very cold, some barely 1C, we broke 4C the other day for half an hour or so when the sun broke out then quickly back down again as the cloud rolled back in - the cloud is also what kept night temps from being harsh so - 2.5C the lowest of the spell. Mean CET for January is 1.2C / -2.4 below av. Max CET is 3.7C / -2.5C, Min 1.1C / -2.1. Snow twice, matching Rhys a flurry on New Year's Day then a light morning covering. More up north. So a notable spell roughly around the lower 10th centile but this is just the start. A very, very interesting winter with the polar vortex away from our side of the hemisphere, but brutal revord cold moving into Europe. Battleground snow this week and Glenn may get lucky. More hope for up north but doubt we'll miss out down south for too long. On 11 Jan 2021, @CraigM350, Sub Berks wrote: Alistair I've not allowed the comment through as it's going to continue to derail the thread otherwise. I have copied the election part of your comment to the other thread and the weather bit below. All pls discuss the US election over there please, there's lots to be said but just not on this thread. We cannot modify your comments, they are either in or out. Also don't swear as perfectly good comments will not pass if you slip a swear word in. *********** Alistair said "With regards to the Weather. Here in East Yorkshire we are still snow starved. We've literally only had two light dustings in the 6 years we've lived here. Looking at the models though, it looks like we could finally be about to get something special. I can feel it in my old bones. An easterly or a Northerly next week might be on the cards. I wonder if this year is the first signal of what is to come over the next few years in relation to the LIA that Piers often refers to." On 11 Jan 2021, David (Yorkshire) wrote: Ron, Just taking the jet stream profile forecasts from ECM then yes another area of blocking high pressure looks very possible to our Northwest in around 6 days or so. This is around the Greenland area. Furthermore Europe looks like going much colder with lower pressure in more favourable areas! This could all change of course, however normal westerly winds prevailing does seem unlikely given the SSW etc. So is this a repeat of the cold pattern from earlier this Month with a bit more bite from the North this time?? On 11 Jan 2021, Paddy, Aberdeen South, sub, 130m elevation wrote: 6˚C at 7.30, overcast & thawing with a light SW’ly wind gradually turning into the NW, quite a bit of rain during the middle of the day, thawing but cooling down towards evening, 1˚ at 8.30pm, frost again, though most of the ice has gone. On 11 Jan 2021, Rich wrote: Glen, should be innocent until proven guilty, not a shred of evidence election was stolen,, just a bad and dangerous looser loser I'm afraid, whether your a warmist or not. Not so sure Ron, GFS and models going wobbly again on cold spell, will leave sledge where it has been last 3 years for now! On 11 Jan 2021, Ron Greer wrote: DAVID: TBF to GFS etc the standard models have not been too bad recently and if we are to believe them, then we are due, as you suggest, some very sharp weather in the last 3rd of the month, as from the 19th. Even Rich and Glenn should get some. Mild these last 2 days with us, but more snow due as from the 'wee sma hoors' On 11 Jan 2021, Glenn wrote: Expect 2021 to be an excellent year for warmists. They can't lose especially after joe Biden winning the us election through fraud. On 10 Jan 2021, Sou'wester, Devon/Cornwall border wrote: I've just been listening to a radio programme, one of whose hosts is based in Texas - he was saying it was snowing hard there as he looked out the window. Don't know what part of Texas the man was from, but Houston is about mid-state, and is at 29N. Heck. Looks like you will have to go south, Glenn, if you want some snow. Madrid of course has just had a blizzard. In Devon, it snowed up on Dartmoor again on the 7th and 8th, where there were strange, rare hair ice formations, which you get on rotting wood- very beautiful. On 10 Jan 2021, Paddy, Aberdeen South, sub, 130m elevation wrote: -1˚C at 7.30, still & very slippery after last night’s rain, quite still with a little bit of sunshine early on but then clouding over and gradually getting less cold, i.e. thawing just enough to make it even more slidey, temps rising to 3˚ by 8pm, some stars visible through the clouds that were brought along on the light SW’ly breeze. Rain and higher temps forecast for tomorrow, so that should take care of the ice. On 10 Jan 2021, Rich wrote: Lost the fog for sun today SE Cambs, -1 last 2 nights and around just +1 yesterday as chilly spell ends. Lack of any ice in puddles or ditches highlights lack of harsh frosts in this part of world last few weeks, still have mozzies in garden, even killed one in house last night. Ground muddy now instead of squelchy, no doubt preparing for next batch of rain! On 10 Jan 2021, Rhys Jaggar wrote: Ron. There is an interesting article about the SSW and discussion of potential weather evolution here: https://www.severe-weather.eu/global-weather/polar-vortex-collapse-winter-weather-europe-united-states-2021-fa/ I'm not vouching for its contents, as I'm not sufficiently expert to criticise the pretty technical analysis presented, but it certainly reads reasonably to me. On 09 Jan 2021, Paddy, Aberdeen South, sub, 130m elevation wrote: -5˚C at 7.30, absolutely, Ron, we’ve not had that since 2011, no double figures here, of course, we’re too close to the sea. Quite bright but clouding over during the morning, SW’ly wind gradually turning into the W, beginning to thaw by midday (winter taking a short break, Claude), light rain by evening, 3˚ at 8pm & very slippery. On 09 Jan 2021, claude grayson wrote: the media certainly seem to be filtering out anything that shows that we are getting cold.just watched SO and see Spain had coldest temp for them-35.8 ,musta been in mountains surely.and China was 10 C colder than models said on tv. one has to wonder how much longer they can keep it up .I guess one day the tv will be saying its sunny outside when its actually snowing and theyll say your just imagining it. here we have another cloudy morning 14C Scu as far as can see ,with maybe as yesterday a bit of sun later to boost the temp to 22C.and all plants are sucking in rapidly as much CO2 as they can before its reduced.having to mow the lawn every 4/5 days On 09 Jan 2021, David (Yorkshire) wrote: Had 3 light snowfalls here since 27th of December. Temps in the day not got above 4 degrees and around -3 at night as an average. Looks like this spell will end Monday. Some heavy falls of snow on high ground and the North of Northern England and Scotland. I still would not rule out some further snow for the North this week. Then as stated previoulsy a higher than normal chance of widespread snow last 3rd of this Month.This includes the South East! On 09 Jan 2021, Ron Greer wrote: Well into a double figure frost last night, one of the sharpest since 2011. On 08 Jan 2021, Paddy, Aberdeen South, sub, 130m elevation wrote: -1˚C at 7.30, about 2cm of snow which made walking on the ice a bit easier, bright sunny morning with a light but sharp NW’ly breeze blowing the snow off the trees in a delightful shower of dust, cloudy in the afternoon, max temp just above 0˚, down to -2˚ by 8pm. Yes Ron, great to have such cold & dry real winter weather with that white stuff our children won’t know anymore. On 08 Jan 2021, claude grayson wrote: at least Paddy you know winter is here, frosted as it ought ,with just a touch of snow.hate wet winters.can get so much more done on frosty days.just dont ride horses for farmwork.Down here it looks like a week of anticyclonic gloom with cloud predicted all week nite and morning,ie most of day. a few Cbs made a racket for the lucky ones yesterday,and farmers are not complaining about not having enough stock to keep up with the grass.just making more baleage and hay when they get 4/5 dry days consecitively. not often this year. On 08 Jan 2021, Rhys Jaggar wrote: A second morning of light snowfall in NW London after 1st January. There was a dusting but nothing of any substance. Digging up a parsnip for lunch it is clear that the ground has absorbed/drained all the excess rainfall from October to December pretty well and there is no sign of gelatinous soil anywhere. Going to be more snow in Spain than many other parts of Europe by the end of the weekend. The Balkans seem to have been getting plenty too. All swings and roundabouts in who gets the snow each winter.... On 08 Jan 2021, Fred wrote: Where is the 30 day Han forecast? Piers it’s the 8th...it’ll be a hindcast soon. Please post it On 08 Jan 2021, Ron Greer wrote: Aye, PADDY, several cms of snow lying here with as sharp and lasting frost as we've had for several years, not in the 2008-2011 class but defo a wintery winter. I see GFS is now going for a distinctly less mild prognosis for much of the month and the interaction between milder Atlantic air and cold Polar Maritime air looks as of it could result in some heavy snow especially over the Highlands. On 08 Jan 2021, M Lewis wrote: A belated and begrudging admission by the UK Met Office that deforestation drives CO2 increases since the Industrial Revolution! https://www.metoffice.gov.uk/about-us/press-office/news/weather-and-climate/2021/2021-carbon-dioxide-forecast Must we accept Professor Richard Betts prognosis? On 07 Jan 2021, Paddy, Aberdeen South, sub, 130m elevation wrote: -1˚C at 7.30, feeling less cold but still very icy underfoot - we haven’t had continuous frost like this for many years now - , very light NW’ly wind, overcast morning, some sun in the afternoon, max temp 2˚, down to 1˚ by 8pm & snowing lightly. On 06 Jan 2021, Paddy, Aberdeen South, sub, 130m elevation wrote: -1˚C at 7.30, clear as a bell with a barely perceptible N’ly breeze which eventually turned a little more into the W, sunny all day with the amazing low winter sun, never got above 0˚, clear starry sky and just about -3˚ by 8 pm. Ah yes, winter. On 06 Jan 2021, David (Yorkshire) wrote: Having done some further reading today, it looks like a split vortex is the more likely scenario and that would favour the UK, as the core of the cold would be over northern Europe based on current modelling! Displacement is what those in eastern USA are after. All up in the air tho!! On 06 Jan 2021, David (Yorkshire) wrote: From Judah Cohen on twitter - This one is head scratcher for me - even though the zonal winds have reversed in the polar stratosphere more heat is predicted to make its way from lower latitudes towards the North Pole in the stratosphere over the next two weeks prolonging the sudden stratospheric warming. On 06 Jan 2021, M Lewis wrote: Ron and others, The METEOGROUP talked about SSW on their 2155hrs Weather broadcast on the BBC NEWS Channel last night. BBC has also posted advice on its website yesterday! It now seems certain that the BBC, METEOGROUP and Met Office all read and analyse our Piers WA website comments for help with their long range forecasts. https://www.bbc.co.uk/weather/features/55551461 On 06 Jan 2021, Danny L. Newton wrote: The Washington Post in the USA has noticed that the Jet Stream has split in two. They think this will cause unusual climate. But they don't commit to any predictions. In other words, there will be unusually warm weather in some places and unusually cold weather in others. The graphic depictions makes the two portions of the jet stream look like two cogs with one cog going clockwise and the other going counter clockwise. On 06 Jan 2021, Ron Greer wrote: any updates on the prospective SSW due about now? On 05 Jan 2021, Paddy, Aberdeen South, sub, 130m elevation wrote: Just below 0˚C at 7.30, clear moonlit sky with passing clouds, light NE’ly breeze, good bits of sunshine in the morning, cloudier in the afternoon, temperature not moving much until evening when we had 1˚ at 8pm. Icy on every exposed surface, soft ground under trees and in our forest, still white with a covering of frozen snow. On 05 Jan 2021, Ron Greer wrote: M. LEWIS: that's interesting as BBC lunchtime forecast predicting milder westerlies next week ( much in line with GFS etc), so will be intriguing to see how things actually pan out On 05 Jan 2021, David (Yorkshire) wrote: Mr Lewis, it would be better if we could get things to line up like this again - https://youtu.be/QEeG8cIJWLE https://youtu.be/_yXFc8smF6Y Nothing marginal there! On 05 Jan 2021, M Lewis wrote: The perfect trinity has now arrived! https://www.metoffice.gov.uk/weather/maps-and-charts/surface-pressure/ On 04 Jan 2021, Ron Greer wrote: DAVID: thanks for that. Could be a chance for a good demo of its influence as standard models are going for a milder westerly flow from just after mid month. Well, a reasonably wintery winter here since just before Xmas and a bit of a relief after the 'double November' On 04 Jan 2021, Paddy, Aberdeen South, sub, 130m elevation wrote: 0˚C at 7.30, overcast with a light ENE’ly wind, grey all day with temperature hovering between 0-1˚, icy on walking surfaces but melt water flowing underneath, light rain by evening, 0˚ at 8pm. Not as icy as last week so far. On 04 Jan 2021, Rich wrote: Question, where is the deep cold, we've had northerly, easterly winds for several days but no real cold, other forecasters have remarked about the lack of cold pooling in the atmosphere, if you look around to the north nothing showing, you have to pretty much get to Moscow to find anything, even that's nothing unusual. Very odd! Looks as though by mid Jan our chilly spell will be over, SSW if happens may not filter all way down to our part of the world, assuming it's pointing in the right direction to start with! On 04 Jan 2021, Mark Hall wrote: Those little kinks in the Keeling Curve from Mauna Loa are tracing the shutdown and re-opening of life in the Northern Hemisphere every year. Forests, grasslands and even phytoplankton blooms get going in the summer and atmospheric CO2 blips down. Winter's decay nudges it back up. The inexorable rise in the curve doesn't look too troubled by the massive Siberian Taiga going to sleep every year. This is because the big picture regarding atmospheric CO2 is the story of the oceans. They contain 50 times more CO2 and outgassing during the Modern Warm Period dwarfs any other process or insult to the biosphere. On 04 Jan 2021, M Lewis wrote: Total insanity has broken out at the BBC. https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science_and_environment Obsession with man made global warming. Not one article mentions Man's wilful destruction of the Earth's lungs - forests, oceans and ecosystems. Our UK TV license fee pays for this crazy reporting bias. BBC never reports that there is an INVERSE CORRELATION between increasing CO2 and decreasing forests and habitats. Shameful! On 03 Jan 2021, David (Yorkshire) wrote: Ron, it is still on for the 5/6th for an official SSW. Normally takes about 4 weeks to directly impact the UK. Probably quicker this time! 2 out of 3 of these warmings result in cold outbreaks for the UK. So we have a 66% chance of severe wintry weather back end of this month (around 26th is my hunch) Caveat obviously being that the cold plunges into central and eastern europe and does not get advected far enough west and we end up wet anf windy weather.Possibly even with a couple of named storms! On 03 Jan 2021, Paddy, Aberdeen South, sub, 130m elevation wrote: 0˚C at 7.30, light dusting of snow which had fallen as sleet during the night, quite sunny at times but with big clouds that brought in showers of rain during the day on the E-NE’ly wind, so we’re back to the skating rink, max temp 2˚, down to 0˚ by 8pm, stars visible through the clouds. On 03 Jan 2021, claude grayson wrote: our weather has been good for the last few days, if your a farmer, a bit of rain in some places like here ,with a bit of natures fetilizer added via CBs but not good if camping,200mm in some parts trapping happy campers,and severe thunderstormsfor a few.NZ really has 4 quarters weatherwise,and today the forecast is good our side severe CBs on the EAST,and cleanup time down Sth after their weathe of the last coupe of days and get some not so happy people moving again after flooding and roads closed. An interesting paper refered to on S O.how because of lockdown the earth temp has risen due to less particular matter in atmosphere and nothing at all to do with CO2.oh dear surely not ,has to be CO2 cos they have all been saying it for so long,how else will they get taxes from farmers,maybe the animals stoped producing methane during lokdown too..poor old Al and Greta.CO2 was just plant food after all. On 03 Jan 2021, Ron Greer wrote: RICH: not a beast perhaps, more like a cub, but a bit nippier than winters here of recent years, though we've still to have a double figure frost and more than 3cm of snow. Anybody got any news on the predicted SSW for the 5th/6th? On 02 Jan 2021, Paddy, Aberdeen South, sub, 130m elevation wrote: -1˚C at 7.30, clear & bright morning followed by a fairly sunny day with some substantial clouds that brought an occasional light snow shower on the cold NW’ly wind, max temp 2˚, frosty by evening, 0˚ by 8pm under a starry but hazy sky and still icy in parts. On 02 Jan 2021, Andy B 45D wrote: Big drop in monthly UAH https://www.drroyspencer.com/wp-content/uploads/UAH_LT_1979_thru_December_2020_v6.jpg On 02 Jan 2021, Rich wrote: The beast looking at most forecasts seems toothless, most standard models suggest SE Cambs no colder than 3-4 and 0 at night still, no winter wonder land forecast anywhere apart from temp coverings at low level if your lucky. Most seasonal models suggested coldest weather early part winter then milder, not so far off t date. Not holding breath or rushing to dust down sledge. At least garden doesn't squelch now! On 02 Jan 2021, Ron Greer wrote: M LEWIS: could be, but standard models somewhat contradict with mild weather setting in by mid month--but after all--they are just standard models. Let's compare notes in 2 weeks time. On 02 Jan 2021, David (Yorkshire) wrote: Heavy snow here about 2/3 cm laying. Coming in off the North sea! On 02 Jan 2021, M Lewis wrote: I believe the time in now! The perfect trinity of High over Greenland, High extending from Siberia, across Scandinavia and right across the UK, with a strong Low over Europe is now moving into place. Let the Beast work his magic. A Nationwide Winter Lockdown is sadly required to finally topple the energy carbon tax and carbon credits ponzi banking scam and reveal the increase in CO2 is nothing to do with the increased burning of fossil fuels but is indirectly correlated to Man's wilful destruction of Earth's once perfect forests, oceans and ecosystems. Harmony must be restored. On 02 Jan 2021, stephen parker wrote: Dartmoor is a beautiful area in a great part of the country, but bleak and wild in bad weather. On 02 Jan 2021, Rhys Jaggar wrote: Light snowfall on the morning of January 1st 2021 in North West London. It didn't stick, but the new year was ushered in with snowfall. On 01 Jan 2021, Glenn wrote: The southern most part of the UK often do quite well for snow. They dont miss out on snow like we do here in Norfolk. On 01 Jan 2021, Glenn wrote: So what has happened in norfolk since December 2018? Are the government using Norwich as a secret weather modification project to stop it snowing whenever there is a chance that it might? On 01 Jan 2021, Paddy, Aberdeen South, sub, 130m elevation wrote: 2˚C at 7.30, fairly clear sky, continuing N’ly wind, a mostly sunny day with occasional light showers, max temp 4˚, bright moonlit night with 1˚ at 9pm and frost in places and ice still lingering on the farm on tracks and areas exposed to the N. On 01 Jan 2021, Sou'wester, sub, Devon/Cornwall border wrote: On New Year's Eve I stepped out at 11;30 AM and was met by black ice, snowy/frosty streets and parks.Winds Nly, so our sea air didn't have a chance to melt it away. A snow-covered M5 was closed for awhile too. Nevertheless, too many drove up to Dartmoor to see the snowy scenes, which caused tailbacks. On arriving back in my neighborhood at about 14:30, snowflakes were beginning to fall again. Then this morning the overnight snow had fallen a bit deeper, and Dartmoor had what looks like about an inch of cover . No snow drought here in the most southerly part of the UK. On 01 Jan 2021, Glenn wrote: Snow drought in norfolk continues. Snow that i was promised for yesterday (new years eve) didnt happen, there has not been a single flake. Another wasted chance, im now declaring winter 2020/21 a write-off. On 01 Jan 2021, David (Yorkshire) wrote: No beast Stephen in sight. I would expect the coldest conditions to be end of Jan/early Feb, if the SSW helps us to keep Northern blocking in a favourable place.That is when a true siberian beast may develop (a few changes need to take place first) For now it will stay cold with a few wintry suprises but no widespread snow on the cards, in my opinion! I don't think the "chief forecaster" is that interested in the weather atm Fred or giving his customers/followers any thoughts, which is strange! I take it he did not forecast any cold otherwise he would be all ovet it!! On 01 Jan 2021, stephen parker wrote: Take heart richard! Standard models useless more than five days out. On 01 Jan 2021, Rich wrote: SECambs, grey damp after overnightfrost, forecast for me the worst conditions, damp cold, 4-5 Deg, not much in way of frost or sun, few wintry showers but not cold enough for snow for next 10-14 days. North Sea being 2 Deg warmer than usual not helping probably! Despite cold end Dec CET ended up slightly above average! Trad models uncertain going forward cold to mild but no deep cold showing that I'm aware of. On 01 Jan 2021, Ron Greer wrote: FRED yup, GFS going back to colder prediction as are some other models, but nothing as severe as 47, 63, 81-82 , 95 or 2010 on their cards---but. On 01 Jan 2021, stephen parker wrote: RE David ( yorkshire ) See david! that beast from the east i forecast years ago is about to turn up lol. Its cold down here in Hertforshire, big frosts and daytime temps around 0-3 * On 01 Jan 2021, Andy(Chiltern HIlls) wrote: Temperatures only reached 0C yesterday with thick fog all day, -3C this morning and still foggy. On 31 Dec 2020, Paddy, Aberdeen South, sub, 130m elevation wrote: 1˚C at 7.30, light rain in a N’ly breeze, rain off & on all day, ice slowly disappearing, no regrets, 4˚ max, still that at midnight. Happy New Year everyone! On 31 Dec 2020, Fred wrote: Ruairi, Easterly by next week, then a plunge from Greenland David, I had an ice day today...3/4c colder than beeb said. There is a potential major cold outbreak knocking in our door. Piers, your latest thoughts please? On 31 Dec 2020, claude grayson wrote: i really must find a greeny and see if they can explain the mechanics of the CO2 greenhouse effect unless one of you can, cos it just doesnt seem to be working down here.as soon as the sun goes so too the warmth unless there is a Northerly breeze,and each nite the temps plummet from highs in the 20s to like today 9.3C as the sun rises.so does the CO2 only take effect in sunlight. oh well someone enlighten me please .maybe the effect is different in the Northern hemi,esp where some vocal people live,maybe sweden,or in some parts of the states or where those in the UN live.???.or maybe with the rain we have had ,the plant life is sucking too much out of the air and not enough is left to have an effect.?? On 31 Dec 2020, claude grayson wrote: happy new year to you all.down these parts we seem to have gone straight into autumn.warm days cool nites ,below 10C by morning with this morning at 5am a ground fog all round ,thicker to the east.i guess due to the colder E current filtering through the gap in the ranges,Manawatu Gorge. Another cold front is coming tomorrow with posible thunderstorms so fingers crossed nothing like the last lot. On 31 Dec 2020, David (Yorkshire) wrote: Fred it is cold now mate up here, still some snow and ice about! Temps struggling to 3 in the day and plunging to zero just after sunset, if not before! Okay it is no classic snowy spell but if it lasts another week, i would deem it a significant cold spell! Especially if any more snow falls next week.⛄ On 31 Dec 2020, Ron Greer wrote: FRED that's quite a difference from the latest GFS run suggesting very mild weather in mid Jan, but it's GFS after all and the next run could show the opposite On 31 Dec 2020, Ruairí (East coast of Ireland) wrote: Christmas card scenes here today with some early morning snow. All gone by midday with rain arriving. A few forecasters are suggesting an easterly flow by mid month. It was similar back in 2010, that was quite a weather event. We shall see. On 31 Dec 2020, Fred wrote: SSW incoming! Due on 5th Jan with ramifications from 15th. However, the vortex is already taking a trip to Siberia (where there is record breaking cold) and models intensifying the cold here. We could be looking at a cold spell to rival a 20th century great. (And we had a few so don’t just think 47 or 63 On 30 Dec 2020, Ron Greer wrote: Yup, GFS now back in mild mode since my last post, yet poor Piers gets stick if he gets it wrong from weeks out On 30 Dec 2020, Ron Greer wrote: light to moderate snow since late morning, with a couple of cms lying. Now ceased, with clearing skies so likelihood of a sharp frost. Some standard models suggesting a HP over Scandinavia, if so cold easterlies. GFS now backtracking on warm incursion by middle of month, but------it's GFS after all. On 30 Dec 2020, Paddy, Aberdeen South, sub, 130m elevation wrote: -1˚C at 7.30, hard frost & very icy still, fortunately we have a store of grit that we last used in 2011, so I could at least make all the walked on surfaces passable, quite a bit of sunshine with a light NW’ly breeze, max temp 0˚, clouding over by evening, which prevented the temperature from dropping below 0˚, for the time being anyway. That’s 4 good and frosty days we’ve had now but rain being forecast for tomorrow, more ice rink then. On 29 Dec 2020, Paddy, Aberdeen South, sub, 130m elevation wrote: 0˚C at 7.30, rain on frozen ground last night = lethally icy around the farm (I’ve fallen on my back twice in the past and each time I saw the proverbial stars, it happened in a split second), but the minute I got off our hill to go shopping everything turned green and pleasant, just 30 metres lower down; mostly cloudy but occasionally sunny, max temp 2˚, light NW’ly breeze throughout, thawing from the ground up but still icy on the surface, 1˚ at 8pm. On 29 Dec 2020, Rich wrote: No real cold in SE Cambs, coldest night -2 so far with day times around 3 to 6, night times around zero, no day long frosts yet. Current forecast not showing any real deep cold for UK so not that hopefull, so as round here goes, relatively toothless period. Could do with proper cold to get rid of over winter pests in the garden, fingers crossed! Maybe a SSW will bring cold, or if on wrong side warm winter weather?As long as we get some sun either way! On 29 Dec 2020, Ron Greer wrote: Just had a good ironic laugh at the latest run of the GFS charts which is now predicting an exceptionally warm period mid January, with the polar maritime air going to the west of us, instead of to the east as it usually does when they predict it going over us. On 29 Dec 2020, David (Yorkshire) wrote: First snowfall here early hours of this morning, about 3cm. Slowly melting now! No proper cold air yet but it will get colder the longer we keep this flow going. The cold looks like lasting until the weekend at least. On 28 Dec 2020, claude grayson wrote: just an update on the hail storm that hit Motueka on the 26th. A twister joined in the fun causing more damage and some places reported 500mm hail but didnt say if that was drifted.glasshouses were wreaked and some orchardists lost their whole crop. the only partial bright spot is that there was going to be a labour shortage to pick the fruit now?????At least the met were honest and said it was hard to tie this event to climate change.so good on them hope the guy doesnt lose his job,for a comment like that. On 28 Dec 2020, Paddy, Aberdeen South, sub, 130m elevation wrote: -2˚C at 7.30, clear and starry to begin with but clouding up during the morning, very light NW’ly breeze, max temp 0˚, dry until around 3.30pm when it suddenly started raining and sleeting and we had a bit of white but absolutely soaking wet, the sort of heavy slush that breaks branches off trees by its weight, still 0˚ by 8pm but still raining, weird weather. Moonlight by 10pm & everything frozen solid. On 28 Dec 2020, Sou'wester wrote: Well, it snowed on Dartmoor on Boxing Day, and some friends say it did again today. I was not tempted to go. I don't mind a little bit of the white stuff if it is still, but it is usually fairly windy in these parts - and as for Dartmoor, well the place is so barren and windswept that one expects to run into Heathcliff. On 28 Dec 2020, claude grayson wrote: been away a couple of days but the machine shows we were 7C Low on sunday and 8C overnite today. Snow did fall on the mtns to what looks too be at least 1600 m and a sprinkle on the higher ranges but its hard to get info on it only odd cam pics and so much isnt reported now cos i guess it upsets CC believers.Even the lonesome Taranaki got a good coating so must have been rather cold aloft.and the iso maps show we aint finished with the cold yet.summer??? maybe we wont have one this year.just odd warm days. On 28 Dec 2020, Ron Greer wrote: worst fears realized from being at the lower limit of snow lying with the wet slushy stuff freezing treacherously overnight. No fresh falls today and clear skies suggest a hard frost tonight. FRED: aye, I see that GFS is now returning to predicting an easterly flow ( but nothing too severe) with this breaking down from the SW by the 2nd week in January. Much depends on the intensity and duration of any HP over Iceland. On 28 Dec 2020, Fred wrote: All main models have Atlantic ridge moving towards Scandinavia and developing an Iceland HP to bring in the Easterly fetch. There is no SSW yet but many are talking of one for early to mid Jan. Would be interesting to get a comment from Piers moving forward. We are developing a January that isn’t expected If the easterly develops and holds we could be in for something brutal, there is incredible cold developing for Western Siberia with December temps in Siberia 20-25c below the average. Marked on 22 Dec global temps were running at 0.2c above the 1970-2000 mean, so we can see the drop off as we head deeper into the LIA. On 27 Dec 2020, Ron Greer wrote: 2140 hrs heavy wet snow here, but not lying at 140 metres, classic conditions for black ice if the sky clears On 27 Dec 2020, Paddy, Aberdeen South, sub, 130m elevation wrote: -1˚C at 7.30, bright & clear, Venus visible low on the SE’rn horizon, followed by a mostly cloudy and quite still day with the merest of SW’ly breezes, in contrast to yesterday’s wild wind, as a consequence of being in the eye of the present LP area over Britain, max temp 0˚ and still that at 8pm, so winter has maybe returned. Some snow forecast for tomorrow here but not much. On 27 Dec 2020, David (Yorkshire) wrote: Thanks Craig. Not sure we need a SSW to be honest, as we are not actually that far from the winter wonderland cards falling right for the UK. Need a small shuffle of the deck thats all! SSW might be the Joker in the pack and not the Ace! Last decent snowfall here was March 2013. The Feb 18 beast gave very powdery snow and not that much of it. On 27 Dec 2020, Rhys Jaggar wrote: Snow down to the car park at Glencoe ski area, see webcams at http://winterhighland.info/cams/glencoe/ (obviously if the snow subsequently melts, the link won't be so useful!) www. severe-weather.eu is predicting 30-60cm of snow for the highlands over the next week or so and significant snow for a much wider part of Great Britain. Many UK children may once again be going to experience what snow looks like.... On 27 Dec 2020, Ron Greer wrote: Standard models going for quite a nippy spell right through from now to the 1st week in January, but earlier predictions of an easterly flow now replaced with more frequently SW winds and milder temps. On 27 Dec 2020, Ron Greer wrote: now in the cold air, with light snow showers and a dusting of flakes on the ground. No wind to speak of. On 27 Dec 2020, @CraigM350, Sub Berks 51N wrote: 0C at midnight then rising over the next 12 hrs to 10C. DPs - 1 to 6C but all just starting to drop again. Wind has built up and is gusting to 45mph. Snow 🌨 Mon looking like the spine of the country but features always liable to pop up in the days ahead. It's only been 2 yrs here since the last decent snowfall (24hrs in late Jan 2019) but have a feeling most of us will be lucky this year even Glenn when it moves more easterly and draws convection off the North sea. Not only do most memorable winters kick in post Xmas we have also had a trend of winter shifting later in the past decade or so as Out east has alluded to many times. Real cold now moving into Scandinavia which is always a good sign. Joe B alluded to similarities with Jan 2010 but the cold is further west so bodes well and a SSW could just maybe fall our way. I am genuinely excited about the prospects for this winte and more so those that lie ahead. On 26 Dec 2020, Paddy, Aberdeen South, sub, 130m elevation wrote: 2˚C at 7.30, feeling mild, snow mostly gone, SW’ly wind under an overcast sky, staying grey all day, wind picking up by mid morning and going at gale force clip all afternoon, max temp 5˚, still that at 8pm. After the short wintery spell, 5˚ feels really mild. On 26 Dec 2020, claude grayson wrote: we almost got a white xmas in parts had a hail storm in Motueka yestdy 26 dec that left 200 -/+ mm deep and 10-20 mm stones over a wide area.check out he pic on my fb page.this morning its 7.5at 0600 partly cloudy and a cool Sthly great for the middle of summer and holidays bad for fruit farmers On 26 Dec 2020, Ron Greer wrote: still the calm before the storm here, but looks like the winter will begin tomorrow. On 25 Dec 2020, Paddy, Aberdeen South, sub, 130m elevation wrote: 0˚C at 7.30, crunchy underfoot and still white, mostly cloudy and quite still but gradually feeling less frosty, light SW’ly breeze starting up and by evening the thaw set in, so we had our two days of winter wonderland, albeit the budget version, but a white Christmas did happen, 4˚ at 9pm. My pleasure, Craig. Merry Christmas! On 25 Dec 2020, claude grayson wrote: I hope you all had a merry xmas and as you all want one, a white one ,but keep it up north we down here arent used to or prepared for anything but sunshine.and that is what we got, well most of us on this island.But as the weather goes in cycles and 1975 we had snow on mts xmas morning so this year we are predicted to get snow on mts if precip.occurs, albeit a couple of days late.so we enjoyed our sunny xmas now we'll rug up for a few cold days.snow forecast to 1400m and maybe 1000m On 25 Dec 2020, Fred wrote: According to the Climate Change Institute at the University of Maine, today, Dec. 22, our World is running at just 0.2C above the 1979-2000 average–hardly signs of the impending heat-induced catastrophe we’ve been warned of for the past 4 decades… Merry Christmas folks, Earth’s temps are about to plunge off a cliff...we have entered the LIA GSM. On 25 Dec 2020, Ron Greer wrote: Standard model forecast was correct for us for Xmas Day. Light frost from late on Xmas Eve through to this morning and now clouding over as the predicted from comes in from the west. Will there be snow on its front edge as it bumps into the cold air? Merry Christmas everyone. On 25 Dec 2020, @CraigM350, Sub Berks 51N wrote: Down to 1C after a rather sticky 12C yesterday and bar the blip over the weekend looks the way for the foreseeable. Snow is in the mix, a stratospheric displacement or spilt highly likely as we approach the new year and this looks the best opportunity for a decade - and we have just past solstice when as the days grow longer, the cold grows stronger. The immediate days ahead may be 'marginal' but some of the best events start that way. Many a good winter begins like this (it's rarely snow + ice all the way thru). It's been a hard and funny year with weather and climate almost an afterthought but it matters in many ways from the micro to macro. Thank you Paddy, Claude, David, Mike, Fred, Lorraine (both of you) Out_East and even Glen for making this a great forum this past year. Thank you Piers for fighting the good fight which has become a much bigger fight with CV19 than some expected but was always due. May we all get feet of snow to bless us. Merry Christmas to one and all x On 24 Dec 2020, Paddy, Aberdeen South, sub, 130m elevation wrote: 0˚c at 7.30, about 1cm of snow lying as per M Lewis, still snowing until about 10, melting soon after though still white on our hill now, light but keen NNW’ly wind, mostly cloudy with occasional sun, max temp 1˚, starry evening, 0˚at 9pm.Winter? Maybe. == Craig, you might look at Thomas Wictor’s YT channel, especially from the moment his vids start getting shorter than 10mins, imo he is one of the most accurate commentators, all open source, a bit cryptic but very well put together. I think we are going to witness biblical events. On 24 Dec 2020, Ron Greer wrote: Last night we got a light dusting of snow , more or less a 'seasoning' of a couple of snowflakes deep. It is now thawing a bit ( noon) On 24 Dec 2020, M Lewis wrote: Please would Paddy and Ron Greer - our trusted eyes and ears on the ground north of the border confirm the snow and ice in Scotland that fell last night - as I warned and posted yesterday. On 24 Dec 2020, @CraigM350, Sub Berks 51N wrote: Paddy - I keep asking "where did the [Green] money go" and relating that to ponzi/money laundering. There is a reason for that and it comes from the Big Bad Orange Man. If it finally comes out as Piers has been hammering on for years about how corrupt it is, well it's going to be Biblical and we do seem to be living in biblical albeit back then they didn't have everyone under house arrest. They are desperate and we must be strong. If they win that's it we the people of this beautiful earth and the children we bequeth it to will be slaves. The green agenda was always the proving ground for the narcissistic, psychotic, sociopathic gits in control. They may not understand but they must be made to understand that we are not going to take it anymore. Government is there to serve the people and sometimes we need to remind them "Where the people fear the government you have tyranny. Where the government fears the people you have liberty." On 24 Dec 2020, @CraigM350 wrote: Glen - shut up whinging for heaven's sake. >3 years is pretty normal for the UK, either move to Canada or Norway, or do some research because the more you write the more you look an utter charlatan who is channeling the MetO in a zombie science séance. === "The period of 1800-10 despite being in the Dalton Minimum was not renowned for snow, the period enshrined in Charles Dickens novels, equating Christmas with snow, came afterwards. Then as now making a prediction after a few snowless years on a small Island on the corner of a large ocean is foolish to say the least. Should the next decade have severe cold and snowy episodes then no doubt [the MetO] will claim that was in the envelope of the forecast projection and was due to climate change anyway. We expect nothing less at this point from fanatics who have spent the past half century marvelling at the equations and ‘science’ of their polished turd." https://weatheraction.wordpress.com/2020/12/11/no-snow more-like-no-soul On 24 Dec 2020, @CraigM350, Sub Berks 51N wrote: A cold start to the month and despite only just above average rainfall it's been a wet month with a lot of rain days. Very warm today with a high of 12C but down to 6 now with dew points following and a cold couple of days ahead with the odd chance of a snowflake or two especially down the eastern coastal areas. A brief warm up Boxing day before we plunge back down and quite a substantial storm early next week which is a bit borderline but certainly has the possibility of dumping some serious snow in some areas - it could well be one of those events that the rain/sleet/snow line is over relatively short distances. Beyond that it looks cold into the new year and the stratosphere seems to be playing ball for a decent cold spell later on. How cold is yet to be confirmed but pretty much all the model outputs show some form of cold leaning towards a high in the Green/Iceland area so possibly the most interesting spell since 2009/10. This is anything but a normal NH winter. On 23 Dec 2020, Glenn wrote: Thank you David. I've had a really horrible year and it sounds like you have just confirmed what I've been saying for the last 2 years. I said that I would never see snow again in Norfolk. My prophecy has been proved correct On 23 Dec 2020, Glenn wrote: Here we haven't had snow since February 2018, nearly 3 years. That's a long time to go without, nobody gives a damn though and these are supposed to be Lia winters. With this December nearly over now I've lost out yet again. On 23 Dec 2020, Paddy, Aberdeen South, sub, 130m elevation wrote: 0˚C at 7.30, overcast with a sharp E’ly breeze at first, then turning into the N, ground staying frozen in most places in spite of a max temp of 3˚, clear sky by evening, Mars above the moon, 1˚ at 8pm. Snow & ice warning for tomorrow, not a word of it this morning, as called by M Lewis. On 23 Dec 2020, David (Yorkshire) wrote: Here is your forecast Glen. Staying Cold and unsettled, settling snow in the North (boundary somewhere around Yorkshire) and high ground towards the end of the Year. Heavy snow on the mountains and peaks, then in my opinion high pressure will settle over us for 5 or so days. Giving a cold dry spell. See how that pans out, Someone had to call it! On 23 Dec 2020, claude grayson wrote: dont write off your snow too soon ,weather patterns change as the sun changes in its cycles and they have discovered many cycles 11y 22y 50y etc and probly some that overlap just to confuse us..was just watching Suspicious Observers and like his humor when telling of the ships stuck in ice in the siberian arctic, in ice that isnt supposed to be there, so it must be Fake News, cos the globe is warming not cooling and the ice is melting not increasing.haha. try telling those on the ships they arent stuck in ice and those who are going to rescue them that its just a practice run..we had the priviledge of rain all nite and managed to accumulate abt 20mm.the ground was drying out after a week of not much and lots of wind,and a few farmers were hoping for a bit more rain before it dried out too much.. On 23 Dec 2020, Tony ex sub wrote: Mike I disagree with what you said about the usa east coast ...when ever they have cold snowy weather we are mild .... On 23 Dec 2020, M Lewis wrote: The Met Office now has a Yellow Warning for Snow and Ice from 9pm this evening in Scotland north of the Forth - Clyde. Better late than never! You could hardly call it a forecast! More like a appraisal of the moment. On 22 Dec 2020, Alistair wrote: Glen, I dont know how you can say winter is nearly over when its only really just beginning with regards to cold and snow possibilities. I'm in my mid 60s and I can say that going back as far as my childhood in the mid 50s and 60s, all the most snowy winters came after Christmas. We rarely got much snow before Christmas and when we did it didn't usually last that long. The worst winters that I remember were nearly always from mid January onwards. On 22 Dec 2020, Joe wrote: Have a look at the latest BBC five day forecast. Looks like winter begins next week....hopefully On 22 Dec 2020, Paddy, Aberdeen South, sub, 130m elevation wrote: 0˚C overnight, 1˚ at 7.30, good ground frost staying all day in many places, splendidly sunny with hardly any cloud and a max temp of 2˚, light W’ly wind and still 2˚ at 8pm as it had hazed over in the meantime. Luckily I managed to see the conjunction at 16.30 this afternoon before it disappeared in the low clouds over the SW horizon, almost as good as the real deal yesterday. On 22 Dec 2020, Glenn wrote: Another winter just about over and still no snow. They promised us a white Christmas only 2 weeks ago, by the looks of things they lied again. Surely there must be someone on here who knows if there are going to be any snow this winter. On 22 Dec 2020, claude grayson wrote: the weather is and has been fickle for probly the whole world.and as the saying is down here' as the days get longer the cold gets stronger',and for us the days get longer and the heat get hotter.warm muggy nites lately and now the days are shortening and this morning we have muggy 16C drizzle with scat.rain forcast. xmas day ,iso showers then finespells,tho the iso map doesnt really match so will know what we had by the 26th.have a great Xmas everyone On 21 Dec 2020, David (Yorkshire) wrote: Ron, i would imagine you and Paddy will get a fair bit of the white stuff end of the Year, as it stands! Seems like an eternity since a proper cold New Year. Hope its not cold and wet down here but looks that way currently! East Anglia looks the prime spot for some snow showers Xmas Eve/Day, could be a brutal winter for out East/Eastside. Interesting winter coming up whatever the UK gets!!😷🛌💪🌍❄❄ On 21 Dec 2020, Paddy, Aberdeen South, sub, 130m elevation wrote: 5˚C at 7.30, very light SW’ly wind, a little bit of sunshine during the morning, otherwise cloudy all day, max temp 7˚, light shower in the evening, 4˚ at 8pm. As anticipated, no chance to see the conjunction, consolation prize was the moon and a few stars through the clouds when I went out with the dog. Now that we’re over the hump, I’ll enjoy watching the days getting longer very subtly. On 21 Dec 2020, Ron Greer wrote: Standard models still floundering about eg GFS going for westerlies on Xmas day. On 21 Dec 2020, M Lewis wrote: Rich and others - please do buy the WA Forecast for this winter. It will help the fight for truth and evidence based science. We know that some scientist lie and manipulate figures and data, as evidenced by the graphs presented for the November Covid Lockdown. Even the UK National Statistics Office criticized this shameful behaviour. Note: the Jet Stream is whipping around all over the North Atlantic like a crazy Cobra! I would repeat the phrase "when America sneezes (freezes) Britain catches a cold". Happy Winter Solstice to all WA members. On 20 Dec 2020, Paddy, Aberdeen South, sub, 130m elevation wrote: 4˚C at 7.30, overcast, SW’ly wind, mostly dry and quite sunny, max temp 6˚, wind strengthening somewhat in the afternoon, clear-ish evening but too much cloud in SW to see the Jupiter-Saturn conjunction, same for tomorrow apparently, 3˚ at 8.30pm. == Craig, hear, hear your comments on the great coviclimareset all being woven of the same cloth; the longer DJT waits until he reveals the facts the deeper the hole those weavers dig for themselves. On 20 Dec 2020, Rich wrote: We all know global warming and covid is a hoax to keep the masses down! When will the biggest lie be exposed, the earth is actually FLAT!!!! Moving on nothing showing on any long range forecasts suggesting anything different to what we have had, bland dampness. Presume this is what Piers forecast for UK winter, hats off if he did! Sunny and pleasanttoday in E Cambs, happily take that at Xmas over grey mild windy. Hope still lingers for decent cold spell, though fading as we head further in! On 20 Dec 2020, David (Yorkshire) wrote: Thanks Craig, interesting what is happening so early in the season, in the Northern hemisphere with the jet stream and displaced cold..Surely linked to low solar activity! You would have thought these patterns were the norm during the last LIA. On 20 Dec 2020, @CraigM350, Sub Berks 51N wrote: Rhys - I've copied your reply to David over to the other thread. // A cold Xmas likely but details to be confirmed. Continuation looks to last into new year but no deep cold as yet. Possible sudden stratospheric warming into new year. Record snow in Japan and NE USA. Climate Change mumbo jumbo going up a gear as they push with covid and for the Great Reset - it's all linked as it's the same agenda and it's all made up. === https://weatheraction.wordpress.com/2020/12/02/from-day-one-global-warming-and-global-cooling-is-a-made-up-social-engineering-programme-jamesdelingpole-speaks-to-patrick-m-wood-about-the-great-reset/ === Let's see what happens from here. On 19 Dec 2020, Paddy, Aberdeen South, sub, 130m elevation wrote: 7˚C at7.30, SW’ly wind, overcast & damp, sporadic showers throughout the day with the wind strengthening again, max temp 8˚ and a few moments of sunshine, showery evening with starry intervals, 6˚ at 8.30pm. On 19 Dec 2020, David (Yorkshire) wrote: Thanks Fred, Merry Christmas🎅 Hope we do get a snowy spell between Christmas and New Year. Should know for sure by Tuesday, i would have thought. On our little island so much can change weatherwise in a few days. On 18 Dec 2020, Ron Greer wrote: DAVID: standard models are variable, but the Xmas mild is almost laughably predictable, even if there is a cold snap just before and after. On 18 Dec 2020, Fred wrote: Hi David Nope, the runs are cold and upgrading to colder and colder. Hope you are well and Compliments of the season to you and everyone on here. On 18 Dec 2020, Paddy, Aberdeen South, sub, 130m elevation wrote: 7˚C at 7.30, cloudy with s a strengthening SW’ly that reached gale force in the afternoon, max temp 9˚, occasional light shower, feels again like a continuation of October, 8˚ at 8.30pm. On 18 Dec 2020, David (Yorkshire) wrote: Hi Fred, looks cold wet and windy on the only model i have used and trusted slightly over the Years (ECM) hope i am wrong! Nothing for the majority to get excited about. On 18 Dec 2020, claude grayson wrote: for those of you who want a white xmas spare a thought for those in Providence ,and williamsport PA usa .biggest snowfall for 125 y and record cold.do you really want 24in snow..on a brighter note the cracks are beginning to show in mainstreams wally ideas as more socalled beliefs are thrown out because the research does not back the models due to shaky foundations.and more scientists rebel against their work being rubbished by diehard climatechange believers. The more we show support for those who speak out, the more who will refuse to be silenced. .You cannot hide truth for very long it always surfaces... ..Weve had anticyclonic gloom for the last few days, cloudy but warm and nights warm/ cool,and the possibility of the leftovers of the ozzy storms paying us a visit. Yasa has fizzed out after thumping FIJI so xmas day is ???? On 18 Dec 2020, Fred wrote: Look at models, get Piers winter Forecast...Merry Christmas On 18 Dec 2020, M Lewis wrote: Latest news on the A68a Iceberg moving off South Georgia. Please do read the whole article to the end, where it is noted that the calving of the iceberg has little to do with man made climate change, but is a natural glacier process operating over decadal time scales. https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-55355381 On 17 Dec 2020, Paddy, Aberdeen South, sub, 130m elevation wrote: 4˚C at 7.30, fresh SW’ly wind but clear as a bell & turning into a mostly sunny day, absolute opposite of yesterday, max temp 6˚, cloudy again by evening though the nascent moon did put in an appearance along with Jupiter & Saturn, 5˚ at 8.30pm. On 17 Dec 2020, M Lewsi wrote: Sorry the 21 December is Winter Solstice. Its been a long year! On 17 Dec 2020, M Lewis wrote: Paddy has already kindly mentioned 21 December. It is the Winter Equinox and very auspicious as there will be the Jupiter Saturn Conjunction in the low South West sky at sunset (try and look out a bedroom window for best view), which we will never witness again in our lifetimes. If the sky is clear it will be magical. Expect the UK weather to change thereafter. When America sneezes (freezes), Britain catches a cold! On 17 Dec 2020, Ron Greer wrote: RHYS JAGGAR: I largely agree with your historical summary of the cold/mild winter periodicity, though up here in Scotland I think the 1976/77 winter was quite nippy. On 17 Dec 2020, Ron Greer wrote: RHYS JAGGAR: I largely agree with your historical summary of the cold/mild winter periodicity, though up here in Scotland I think the 1976/77 winter was quite nippy. On 17 Dec 2020, Ron Greer wrote: I am disappointed by the political content of some of the recent posts and feel that they should be better placed in another forum for political issues rather than one discussing climate and weather ones. On 17 Dec 2020, Tony ex sub wrote: Well freezing very snowy north east usa.....mild dull here in uk .....really think its like I said when east usa bad we are mild .....becoming boring these no event winters .....and even I'm starting to wain at the idea of a mini lia....... On 17 Dec 2020, David (Yorkshire) wrote: Mark Hall the keyboard warrior troll. As if you would state something like that, without knowing someones personal circumstances. Glenn i empathise with you, as you have a learning difficulty and lockdown cannot have been easy. It has hit us all hard. There is no easy solution, however the vaccine is on its way! There is another thread for Covid denial mumbo jumbo i believe, so i will say no more. End of winter, as in Feb will be our best chance for a proper freeze this Year! ✌ On 17 Dec 2020, Glenn wrote: I totally agree with you Mark hall. The right can see that lockdowns don't work but the left rich elite can't. The government decisions based on the likes of Chris whitty have caused much disruption not only to our economy but also the lives of people such as myself who suffer from serious mental health problems because I have Asperger's syndrome. On 16 Dec 2020, Glenn wrote: So that's it then. Another non traditional winter for poor old Britain. We are getting screwed over in every possible way at the moment. It's not just the weather, it's Europe and convirus as well. On 16 Dec 2020, Mark Hall wrote: Kindly get lost David, with your sanctimonious scaremongering. It's an over-hyped cold virus. With 94% of "victims" being bedridden octogenerians with serious underlying health conditions. Average age of death 82 years. Just 5 people died "with" this virus on Saturday in London, a city of 9 million, yet they locked us down again. The hospitals weren't overrun in April when there were 5 times more Corona patients in ICUs in that first round of the scam. Something is going on and it's not a High Consequence Infectious Disease. That's official. On 16 Dec 2020, Paddy, Aberdeen South, sub, 130m elevation wrote: 7˚C at 7.30 and throughout the day, dark and overcast, strengthening SW’ly wind with some beefy old gusts, rain starting around 9 & keeping going until mid afternoon, fortunately not as much as recently but still ensuring sodden ground, still 7˚ at 9pm, not bad for December. == Rhys, absolutely. I remember 1979/80 in particular when no mechanical digger could get through the frozen ground, I think it was frozen down to about 18 inches or 2 feet and went on for at least three weeks, if my memory is correct. On 16 Dec 2020, David (Yorkshire) wrote: Glenn, Asim sorry to disapoint but with North East USA going well and truly into the freezer, i expect the jet stream will fire up soon and head straight at us. Probably just after christmas. Doubt it will be mild but not cold enough for low level snow between christamas and new Year! No real sign of any true Northern blocking. On another note please do not play down or under estimate Covid people and stick to the rules. 😷 On 16 Dec 2020, Rhys Jaggar wrote: Asim I don't know if you were around in the 1970s, but I grew yup in that decade and we didn't see snow from December 1970 to December 1979, with the exception of one freak overnight snow after Easter in I think 1975. From 1979 to 1987 we had a run of very cold, snowy winters. 1988-1990 were freakishly mild. Then the 1990s were cooler. Then the Noughties were mild. Then we had a few cold ones, now we are having a few more mild ones. This story that 'winters are getting milder' just doesn't stack up historically. We have a very variable climate as an island nation. If you look at the Rutgers Global snow lab website, you will see that Northern Hemisphere snow cover is bang on the average for the time of year. On 16 Dec 2020, M Lewis wrote: Re: Cyclical Climate Change and the Antarctic McMurdo Dry Valleys. The discovery of many mummified remains of elephant seals so far south in Antarctica suggests that milder climate conditions existed In McMurdo between 7,000 years ago and 1,000 years ago before the population of elephant seals declined and went locally extinct about 400 years ago. It is still unclear what caused the McMurdo climate to start cooling a millennium ago. This Antarctic climate cooling roughly coincided with a climate cooling period in Europe known as the Little Ice Age, but there is debate as to whether there is a link between these two events. However, since the late 19th Century, the sea ice and many of the glaciers near McMurdo Station are again retreating - just like they were up to a 1000 years ago. This is credible evidence of natural cyclical climate change, rather than a man made global warming event. On 15 Dec 2020, Asim Arslan wrote: Every year is the same mild winter it’s a fact our winters in uk are getting Warmer. No sustained cold as the this happens every year it’s another mild winter plus I can’t see any prolonged cold spell beastly either on the horizon. If anyone wants to tell me any different please do. It’s a real shame as frost and ice is a rare UK just don’t get winters like before and that’s been proven over the past years. On 15 Dec 2020, Paddy, Aberdeen South, sub, 130m elevation wrote: 4˚C at 7.30, cloudy and windy from the SW but turning sunny by 9 and continuing until afternoon, max temp 6˚ and feeling mild, cloudy evening with a few openings to show stars, 5˚ at 8pm, managed to see Venus in the morning and Mars tonight. Big conjunction between Jupiter and Saturn on 21st, big because this close - 0.1˚ - only happens every 800 years, otherwise every 20 years, I remember seeing it in 2000. Not sure whether we’ll be able to see it as it will happen in Capricorn, low in the SW where we have hills, not to mention the likelihood of cloud. On 15 Dec 2020, Glenn wrote: After a promising start to December this year it is now clear to see that it's degenerated into another mild winter. If anyone can tell me any different please do. On 15 Dec 2020, M Lewis wrote: The largest climate research station in Antarctica is McMurdo Station. Very few members of the general public are aware it exists. https://www.ststworld.com/mcmurdo-station/ https://www.usap.gov/videoclipsandmaps/mcmwebcam.cfm It is the size of a small town and has a population of approx 1200. 7 miles to the east is a busy ice runway airport - Williams Field. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Williams_Field The McMurdo nuclear power station was closed down in 1961 due to radioactive contamination of the land. Power for McMurdo is now from dirty diesel generators which spew out CO2. How ironic for a station that studies climate change! Scientists studying the Dry Valleys surrounding McMurdo have discovered desiccated plants and mummified animals from an epoch when the Earth's climate was warmer. http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/sci/tech/3805907.stm On 14 Dec 2020, Paddy, Aberdeen South, sub, 130m elevation wrote: 8˚C at 7.30, feeling mild, windy from the SW to begin with but calming down during the day, no rain for a change and even a short burst of sunshine during the morning, mostly cloudy but breaking by evening and stars peeking through, 5˚ at 8pm. On 14 Dec 2020, Tony ex sub wrote: Rich I'm like you fed up of mild non event winters...I'm.a post last year I had to de ice the car only 7 times dec ...jan Feb......yr before not much better ....only dusting of snow so whilst I'm not convinced of global warming...it frustrates me that every year is supposed to be the one to kill off the global warming brigade but alas havent seen any evidence here in the uk ......what really makes people think we are going into a mini ice age ????here in uk not elsewhere ???not devaluing peoples opinion ...just want the evidence On 14 Dec 2020, M Lewis wrote: Well the New Moon and El Nina have certainly done their business in Australia. https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-australia-55297805 No sign of anything dramatic weatherwise in the UK yet, but there is still time in the run up to Christmas. On 13 Dec 2020, Paddy, Aberdeen South, sub, 130m elevation wrote: 6˚C at 7.30, lashing with rain in the obligate SE’ly wind which strengthened considerably in the afternoon, pulses of heavy rain throughout the day, ever more water and not much change in sight, 7˚ by 8pm. On 13 Dec 2020, claude grayson wrote: 6 days out from the longest day and the temp at 0600 5.8C ,grass 4.5 and dropping as the sun rises.WHERE is global warming,WHERE is this CO2 that is supposed to be warming the planet,Why is it so cold so close to the longest day and why when the clouds go does the temp drop so much,and WHERE are the Greenies to explain it. They say the co2 is the cause ,well it aint working down here. On 13 Dec 2020, Rich wrote: As Tony says, the issue is the run of mild winters,(20/21) is shaping up to be another already, why would general public not believe in global warming? If Piers was pushing global warming theory and the BBC etc was saying the planet was cooling given what everybody was experiencing, nobody would believe BBC! V wet grey again in SCambs, mid December and had my fill of rain and grey already....least not windy as well, less likely water shortages next summer too! On 13 Dec 2020, Ron Greer wrote: GFS currently predicting cold northerlies-easterlies over UK in the festive period, but we now know what's likely to happen--mild southerlies/westerlies. Anyway good for a laugh. On 12 Dec 2020, Paddy, Aberdeen South, sub, 130m elevation wrote: 6˚C at 7.30 and throughout the day again, about the same amount of rain as yesterday, some of it heavy, SE’ly wind all day, ground saturated. On 12 Dec 2020, claude grayson wrote: GW may have had to change its name to CC but the stupidity hasnt changed "Broken Planet'World needs to declare 'climate emergency' UN .and on and on tell one lie and how many more do you have to tell to cover up.honesty is far better and whats wrong with honesty anyway seems so many in high places dont like it.WHY? On 12 Dec 2020, Tony ex sub wrote: Well for a few years now I've said when usa gets bad winter weather we seem to get mild and ivd noticed within the next few days parts of usa,will be bad is this due to the jet stream or should I emigrate to usa,if I want a proper winter lol ???? On 11 Dec 2020, Paddy, Aberdeen South, sub, 130m elevation wrote: 6˚C at 7.30 and throughout the day, rain overnight and all day in varying quantities, strong SE’ly wind all day, river Dee near to breaking its banks and more of the same on the cards for tomorrow. On 11 Dec 2020, Ron Greer wrote: I note with interest that in the revamp of the Norwegian Weather Service website that 10 day projections have ceased and only 4'/5 day projections are given. Have they learned from their failures? On 11 Dec 2020, claude grayson wrote: GW is alive and thiving,NOT.!!! Those who live down the South Is wont agree when snow was falling to 200m 9 days out from our longest day. Seems nature has joined the anti GW lobby.in the southern hemi just as in the north. I wonder how much longer the deniers of Sun driven climate change can hang onto their deluded beliefs and cling to their theory that,that invisible gas, that is of so much benefit to us all, is the cause. On 10 Dec 2020, Peterg wrote: Not suppleid translation: In some cases, more rain and snow has fallen in East Tyrol within about a week than normally in an entire winter, said the weather service Ubimet in a broadcast. In Lienz, for example, 88 centimeters of fresh snow fell this month; the average is 71 centimeters from December to February. ' Quote from Tirolertagszeitung today (www.tt.com). Translated it reads: In parts of Osttirol, more snow and rain has fallen in the past week than normally occurs in an entire winter, it was reported by the weather service Ubimet. In Lienz, 88cm of new snow has fallen in December, in comparison with 71cm average from December until February. On 10 Dec 2020, Paddy, Aberdeen South, sub, 130m elevation wrote: 5˚C at 7.30, overcast with a fresh S’ly wind which strengthened considerably during the morning and kept going all day, light showers every now and then but more persistent rain by evening, 6˚ at 8pm. On 10 Dec 2020, Helen (Ireland, sub) wrote: Fred, I had the same problem as you, with my Autumn and Winter forecasts disappearing at the end of August, and they never came back. So I've had no early updates for the winter forecast, and still waiting on the full Dec update for the 30 day. I emailed Piers at the time but received no reply. I was expecting the problem to be resolved by now. Piers, if you are reading this, please could you give me back my Winter forecast with all updates (purchased 9th August). Thanks. On 10 Dec 2020, claude grayson wrote: watching SO. this morning on the solar blip.glad we not waking to a different earth.with nothing working .quite like this lifestyle. Ben goes on to show a recent paper reveals that due to covid lokdown ,the CO2 dropped but the temp went up.the chinese said the longer the shutdown went on the warmer it would get because aerosol polution was keeping us cool.oh well no one will listen anyway.on another page was reading an article abt how the antarctica ice was actually increasing 2019 and they were having to rethink their models.oh dear did they get it wrong again.as they say watch this space how much more did they get wrong? or is it far easier to ask what have they got right? if any.if the data is faulty you must get rubish models On 10 Dec 2020, Ron Greer wrote: TONY and M LEWIS. Doesn't look likely before Xmas at least. GFS continues to flatter then to deceive with profound polar maritime outbreaks first predicted then replaced by Azore air masses in the next run. On 10 Dec 2020, Asim Arslan wrote: I am having trouble the new December file it says not available ?? Can someone please help and is anyone else having trouble with this ?? On 10 Dec 2020, Tony ex sub wrote: Mike lewis if only .....maybe then ,would shut up the sky and bbc bs..........the problem piers has to the general public is the stream of mild winters we have had recently... On 10 Dec 2020, Fred wrote: I’m having trouble loading the new December file, anyone else have an issue or is it my end? On 10 Dec 2020, M Lewis wrote: There is a New Moon on Monday 14 December. Can the New Moon and Tides combine with the Sun's solar wind to finally nudge that stubborn Russian Siberian High across to the UK? It would be magical to have a perfect winter. Time will tell! On 10 Dec 2020, Not supplied wrote: 'Teilweise ist damit in Osttirol innerhalb von etwa einer Woche bereits mehr Regen und Schnee gefallen als normalerweise in einem gesamten Winter, teilte der Wetterdienst Ubimet in einer Aussendung mit. In Lienz etwa fielen diesen Monat 88 Zentimeter Neuschnee, 71 Zentimeter sind es im Durchschnitt von Dezember bis Februar.' Quote from Tirolertageszeitung today(www.tt.com). Translated it reads: In parts of Osttirol, more snow and rain has fallen in the past week than normally occurs in an entire winter, it was reported by the weather service Ubimet. In Lienz, 88cm of new snow has fallen in December, in comparison with 71cm average from December until February. On 09 Dec 2020, Paddy, Aberdeen South, sub, 130m elevation wrote: 3˚C at 7.30, very damp but not raining until mid afternoon, light S-SSE’ly wind, max temp 6˚, more persistent rain after 8pm, 5˚ by 9pm. On 09 Dec 2020, claude grayson wrote: wet weeks go slow and this is no exception.47mm so far since monday and maybe more today,though it seems to have moved S a little .At least we can still use the net after the sun coughed and sent a CME to say hi. o/n lows have been warm 17 last nite this side of island 20s the E side.nothing quite like water vapour [clouds] to trap heat.One wonders why its only those in the general population who see that and not the mainstream scientists.maybe they all use other substances that we dont have access too. On 09 Dec 2020, Solar Man wrote: The Beeb fear-fest at prime-time on Mon 7th (they even pushed aside The One Show!) was emblematic of the wider media coverage on climate . The programme highlighted specific events to support their cause, then says individual events don't prove climate change.... In August, here in the east of Scotland, we had thunderstorms the like of which I have never seen and the main rail line to Aberdeen was washed away, with tragic consequences. BUT this isn't unprecedented. Nearly 200 years ago NE Scotland witnessed the 'Muckle Spate' https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Muckle_Spate which happened long before anyone came up with the phrase 'Climate Change' On 08 Dec 2020, Not supplied wrote: Michael, I also seem to remember the same dire warnings about snow becoming a thing of the past by global warming enthusiasts. That warning must have been at least 15 years ago. I seem to remember some saying the same thing much earlier as well. They still don't seem to grasp what Piers and others are saying about the climate been dictated by the sun. I'm sure they will have egg on their faces in the years to come. Enough to make an omelet or two before going out on their sledges and ice skates. On 08 Dec 2020, Paddy, Aberdeen South, sub, 130m elevation wrote: 5˚C at 7.30, overcast & gloomy with a light NW’ly wind, less rain than yesterday but still pretty wet, especially in the evening, max temp 6˚, back down to 5˚ by 9pm. Prospect is pretty wet as well for the rest of the week. On 08 Dec 2020, Rhys Jaggar wrote: I am sure no-one regularly reading this site takes any notice whatever of BBC pronouncements on climate. I am sure that if the BBC stole the weather event of Salzburgerland dated 17th or 18th December 1982 (I can't remember which of the two days it happened, but i was there and experienced it), they would be saying something like 'these events never happened before'. It was a Foehnsturm with serious amounts of thunder and lightning in the middle of December. Just like a tornado hitting Trieste earlier this week. I am afraid to say that extreme events have happened with regularity every decade I have lived, it is just that they were not reported the same as now. Summer 1976 - extreme heat and drought all over western Europe. Winter 1988:89 - extreme lack of snow across Europe. February 1990: 4 metres of snowfall in one week from Northern French Alps through to the Matterhorn. Early December 1992: 2 metres of snow widely across much of the French Alps. Etc etc..... On 08 Dec 2020, David wrote: I have to vent and say how utterly ridiculous the bbc and sky news have stayed snow will be a thing of the past, I can’t begin to describe the idiocy maybe in 200 300 years time it might make a difference and that still doesn’t convince me all cold winters will be eliminated in Britain can’t stop laughing if anything they will be cycled some warm some very cold and MANY MANY historical cold events still to arrive in England cold winters will happen and they will happen for many years to come On 08 Dec 2020, M Lewis wrote: Met Office pressure chart for 8 December is as follows. https://www.metoffice.gov.uk/weather/maps-and-charts/surface-pressure/ All the ingredients for a perfect winter are in place including a High over Greenland and a Low in the Bay of Biscay. If the Russian Siberian High which is now touching Finland and Poland finally extends across to the UK then we will get a real winter. However, it all depends on what happens to the Jet Stream over the coming days. It needs to drop down over Iberia and the Med. On 07 Dec 2020, Paddy, Aberdeen South, sub, 130m elevation wrote: 2˚C at 7.30, damp & drizzly all day, max temp 4˚ with a NW’ly wind, still 4˚ at 9pm. On 07 Dec 2020, Michael wrote: @Piers - thoughts? https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-55179603 I'm sure I read something similar prior to the 2009/2010 freeze. On 07 Dec 2020, M Lewis wrote: Here is a clear example of disinformation by the BBC. There is no button for the Coldest Day over the past 30 years. Also why 30 years and not 60 years. 60 years would more accurately and truthfully show any long term UK climate trends and including a button for Coldest Day would show the coldest winters experienced over the past 60 years. https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/resources/idt-d6338d9f-8789-4bc2-b6d7-3691c0e7d138 Watch BBC Panorama (Propaganda): Britain's Wild Weather tonight at 1900 hrs on BBC One. On 07 Dec 2020, M Lewis wrote: The Prime Minister BJ will host a virtual climate conference on 12 December. Over the past few days the BBC has been publishing Science articles supporting man made global warming and its consequences. The latest one this morning concerns a lack of snowy winters. https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-55179603 Members of WeatherAction should note that BBC Panorama (BBC Propaganda?) will cover it in detail in a special program on Monday night). I would urge WA members to keep Pier's WA winter forecast private and confidential. On 06 Dec 2020, Paddy, Aberdeen South, sub, 130m elevation wrote: 1˚C at 7.30, light NW’ly wind, cloudy but brightening up during the morning, mostly cloudy day though, max temp 4˚, occasional drizzle, 2˚ at 8pm. Dreich & damp December weather. On 06 Dec 2020, Rhys Jaggar wrote: https://www.tt.com/artikel/30766028/wetterchaos-in-tirol-sperren-und-stromausfaelle-schulfrei-in-osttirol?slide-id=26 For those able to read German, this article describes the very unusually heavy snowfall in Southwest-SouthEast Austria, with notably high snowfalls in Osttirol. There are 26 pictures from Osttirol which are pretty self-explanatory in terms of depths of snow! The snow is expected to continue into Monday, with a further significant snowfall later in the week. This is a classic example of how the south side of the alps gets enormous snowfall from a low centred on Italy and the Mediterranean. On 06 Dec 2020, Rhys Jaggar wrote: Snowfall of over 1 metre in several upland areas of Central, Southern and Eastern Switzerland, bringing levels to near record highs (and in a few spots to absolute recorded highs for 6th December). Snowfall is down to well below 1000m meaning that if weather stays cold, valley level snow could become established in December. The double low pressure system from UK to the Mediterranean surrounded by the Azores and Siberian Highs means that the system is locked in for the best part of a week, which could mean very unusual levels of snowfall accumulating on the mountains from Central Switzerland to SE Austria. On 05 Dec 2020, Paddy, Aberdeen South, sub, 130m elevation wrote: 3˚C at 7.30, heavy overnight rain brought in on a strong N’ly wind, many large puddles in field, our duckpond almost overflowing, showers throughout the morning, sunny afternoon though with towering clouds, max temp 4˚, light showers in the evening, stars peeking through the clouds, 3˚ at 9pm. On 05 Dec 2020, M Lewis wrote: Images of the World's largest Iceberg - A68a near South Georgia. https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-55196220 It will be most interesting to keep an eye on the winter in the Southern Hemisphere from June 2021 onwards. The sea in the South Atlantic will cool down from the iceberg melting. On 04 Dec 2020, Paddy, Aberdeen South, sub, 130m elevation wrote: 6˚C at 7.30 and for the rest of the day, wild NE’ly wind, heavy rain overnight falling on frozen ground, making for very slippery conditions to begin with, rain off & on throughout the day, some very heavy bursts, still showery at 8pm. On 04 Dec 2020, Ron Greer wrote: No thunder snow up up here and what was lying from yesterday had largely melted by 0900 hrs. Dinnae worry aboot the bridges M Lewis, didnae cost the English taxpayer a penny. On 04 Dec 2020, M Lewis wrote: Ron Greer - any comments on the Thunder Snow? https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-edinburgh-east-fife-55184493 It is unbelievable that the Forth Bridges - which are national strategic infrastructure assets are still not heated to protect them from build up of ice, icicles and snow. A case of Scotland getting caught again with its pants down! On 04 Dec 2020, Ron Greer wrote: The heavy snowfall predicted by standard models 18 hrs and less ago has not materialized here in Highland Perthshire On 03 Dec 2020, Paddy, Aberdeen South, sub, 130m elevation wrote: -2˚C at 7.30, hard frost, cold SW’ly wind that turned into the NW by evening, max temp 0˚, blue sky & brilliant sunshine for most of the day, clouding over by evening, -2˚ again by 8.30pm. On 03 Dec 2020, Ron Greer wrote: M LEWIS: I remember the 62-63 winter very well, 66, 79 too but the 81-82 one really sticks in my mind because the record cold was equaled that January. The Xmas cold of 1995 is another sharp memory and of course the 2009-2011 is nearer in recollection. Nothing like that since and it doesn't look if this month is going to be all that exceptional. The lessons have been learned though. Water stored away, thermals in the drawer and a multifuel stove long installed. Better to have and not need it than the reverse. On 03 Dec 2020, M Lewis wrote: Returning to Winterwatch 1963 the Big Freeze, the presenter concluded at the end of the film that UK authorities had got caught with their pants down and needed to pull their socks up, But instead they had learnt nothing and done nothing to protect UK infrastructure against future extreme winter weather events. Funny that this state of affairs continued right up until December 2010 when Heathrow Airport got caught with its pants down and did finally pull its socks up. It has now invested in £millions of snow ploughs and blowers. I wonder if Heathrow Airport has also done the sensible and strategic thing and subscribed to WeatherACtion Long Range Forecasts? Seasons Greetings! On 03 Dec 2020, M Lewis wrote: I watched Winterwatch 1963 the Big Freeze on BBC4 last night and had an epiphany. https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b01q9d86 Towards the end of the programme the presenters show weather charts for the cause of the Siberian winter in the UK. It was interesting to note that warm air Lows came up from Bay of Biscay / France to collide with the freezer air Highs stationed over the UK and Ireland from Siberia and from Greenland. I am very pleased WeatherAction only published the December 45 day forecast this week. It allows you to monitor who is out to trash and discredit Piers and WA. I would urge you not to do interviews with the Daily Express and its sister paper the Daily Star. They always set Piers up on a pedestal with their lurid Snowmageddon headlines and then he gets knocked off and broken! Likewise, a few months ago, ITV Good Morning Britain ridiculed Piers and their weather woman Laura was particularly vindictive. You can only trust Peter Hitchens at Mail on Sunday. On 02 Dec 2020, Paddy, Aberdeen South, sub, 130m elevation wrote: 2˚C at 7.30, cloudy start but brightening up to a great sunny day with a light & occasionally gusty & cold SW’ly wind, max temp 4˚, wind really cold by evening 2˚ at 9pm & icy roads in sheltered places. On 02 Dec 2020, claude grayson wrote: we went on down yesterday to 4.7 C then climbed backup to18.3. o/n Lof 13.3 wind gusting to 24k, light rain./drizzle blowing past. so NZ has joined all the other wallys and declared a climate emergency ,bunch of dickheads listening to the comunistic greens hellbent on destroying our society so their brand of stupidity can takeover.MADNESS.but at least we can sit back and enjoy the show,watch them fall on their faces cos they dont see the bigger picture,and wont look at any alternatives.such a waste of money. On 01 Dec 2020, Paddy, Aberdeen South, sub, 130m elevation wrote: 1˚C at 7.30, quite frosty in places, fairly bright with a light NW’ly breeze which gradually turned into the S, quite sunny at times, max temp 4˚, still evening with the lightest breeze, 1˚ at 8pm. == Ron, ah yes, that was some winter: we were in France for my wife’s mother’s 90th birthday, our son phoned to congratulate her and to tell us that, by the way, our big double tunnel had collapsed under the weight of snow, the ridge pole was on the ground and the hoops were all kinked. We were insured and made sure that the new one had all the possible crop bars and braces to prevent a repeat - which, like the snow, has never come, so far. On 01 Dec 2020, claude grayson wrote: so enjoy reading what you guys write,Craig well said,facts win in the end .must be hard for the wallys to keep up their nonsence knowing its rubbish. down here its back to cool mostly clear sky ,the Sthly of yesterday is almost gone and the hi cloud is drifting in from the west as the next front lines us up. had 19.5mm so far this week with more promised tomorrow and fri. 0600 temp 5.3C , 3.8 on the grass 90%hum..enjoy your northern winter we'll try to enjoy a cool summer so it seems, tho it may warm up with la nina. On 01 Dec 2020, Ron Greer wrote: STEPHEN PARKER: can't speak for others pointing out the inadequacies of standard models like GFS, but when I do it, it's for exactly that purpose--pointing out its inadequacies. Those criticising Piers if he gets it off target from weeks even months out, should, bearing in mind the vast resources they have, remember their own failings at 5 days out. This weekend's forecast for snow ( or not ) is a case in point. On 01 Dec 2020, Steve Dorset uk. wrote: Chilly day yesterday here but typically November weather. Hi piers i hope you are well and coping with all this Stasi nonsense by our plod who are now beyond belief, we will need an enquiry after this lot has passed l look forward to your December Forecast, Keep well and thanks. On 01 Dec 2020, @CraigM350, Sub Berks 51N wrote: Piers - can you put me back on for the forecasts? Really interested in your thoughts. Cheers On 01 Dec 2020, @CraigM350, Sub Berks 51N wrote: 2009, following solar min in was the effective start of cold winters until 2013, with nothing of note until 2017-18 which was quite 1980s like excluding the duplicate Beast from the Easts (end Feb/St. Patrick's Day). Sol min came 12/08 with a taster winter in Feb 09 but that was an even numbered cycle, The QBO takes time to propagate down from the stratosphere to the troposphere so next winter bodes well . As Fred has highlighted with the arctic/Greenland melt(s) affecting the Atlantic circulation and over the next few years the AMO will turn cold – regardless of what you believe #ClimateChange to be capable of. I have not seen Pier’s thoughts so far so these are my independent thoughts and I can’t wait to get my teeth into the WA winter forecast at last! On 01 Dec 2020, @CraigM350, Sub Berks 51N wrote: Caveats; QBO is now moving back to easterly following the disruption last year by the record Indian Dipole Oscillation (IDO) which for the 2nd time in the (modern) record disrupted the usual seesaw of the QBO (last time was 2016 modern 'record' El Nino). Atlantic (AMO) is still warm. As we move through the 2020s it will turn phase and like the 1960s increase cold winters (the 1920s + 30s were mostly warm, from a colder base than now, in regards to winters – winters that followed that were much colder and considered classic). Also the Pacific is warm over the East coast of North America, it will also move to cold as we progress but this winter may be too early. and that is to me down to the QBO. A dark winter however cannot be ruled out socially and weather wise! On 01 Dec 2020, @CraigM350, Sub Berks 51N wrote: There are other general echos I'm finding with 1978-79, 2012-13 & 2017-18. It is by no means a classic but there could be classic phases and with wet and milder phases likely opportunity for serious snowfall. I see early cold with a strong possibility of White Xmas (falling on the day itself is practically a lottery but around then looks good to me – 1938 was a classic White Xmas but not everywhere) followed by a later snowy phase in Feb and Mar. Jan could well be wet to very wet. So I see up and down with regular cold and mild incursions (like 17-18) with a SSW unleashed later which leads to the cold later winter, An weak/moderate easterly based El Nino favours cold possibilities but nothing screams a really cold winter overall - i.e. weeks as opposed to a week or two of cold. As it is it is looking very good for the weeks ahead for cold but nothing notable showing its hand just yet although snow possibilities exist later this week for most of the country On 01 Dec 2020, @CraigM350, Sub Berks 51N wrote: If you've followed me on Twitter you'll notice I'm quite enamoured by 1938 as an analogue this year. At - 82y it does not hit any solar or lunar nodes which I usually look for but it has been intriguing because; dry spring with a warm sunny April (why this summer's rain was never in doubt) - it was quite glorious but meant the 'payback' was due; an unusual windy June - I saw large branches downed, quite unseasonal or as H. H. Lamb put 1938 "unprecedented violence" for the time of year. August 1938 had a “remarkable series of thunderstorms”, though not as warm as this year by any means, but considerably cooler afterwards, v. wet and windy Oct (we had 90mm in 2 days here), v. warm dry Nov. Now many warm Nov's lead to warm winters (they essentially follow on) but so do cold winters too including 1946-47. On 01 Dec 2020, @CraigM350, Sub Berks 51N wrote: Oh dear we've got a resident troll or two emboldened by the kind of fraud we're well used to from the watermelon camp. Lockdowns (i.e. telling lesser mortals what to do and controlling every aspect of their lives) is manna from heaven to the authoritarian zealots === https://www.marketwatch.com/story/we-need-to-act-boldly-now-if-we-are-to-avoid-economy-wide-lockdowns-to-halt-climate-change-11600879250 === Facts and logic will eventually reach most but there are a few that will never be saved because climate = bring down capitalism. I'm not a capitalist but let's be frank here climate was never about saving the planet it has always been about 100% control. Agenda 2030, the Club of Rome it's all there in the public record. Technocrats and Technocracy are hardly a modern invention. Real "greens" tend to be conservative (small 'c') and rural based - actions, and the data speak louder than words. So with that Pls be respectful all and civil but by all means fire away.... On 30 Nov 2020, Ron Greer wrote: Well, it's 10 years to the night that I drove home in a blizzard from Crieff to Blair Atholl, luckily enough behind a snow plough for most of the way, It was followed by the coldest December for 100 years ( as predicted by Piers ) with the -20C sign on the charts apparently stuck above my house on the charts for a week. Luckily I had just put in a new multi-fuel stove, on which I melted kettles full of snow to flush the toilet and wash the dishes. Neat malt whisky helped too. On 30 Nov 2020, Rich wrote: Oh dear, unless Piers is predicting an above average winter temp wise it will end badly! All standard models I know of going for mild wet-ish winter...again, hate it when they are right! No doubt it will snow in Scotland, some slushy stuff near Manchester and it will be frosty in Benson. Glenn will be unhappy, out East will predict a raging easterly again, talk of dodgy data and another prediction starting in 2022 this time of the start of a cold series of winters. Meanwhile the Arctic ice will have reached a new low, Biden will be President and we will have had another warm year, AHH no we won't as all dodgy data, and any use of UK as an example of warming climate is down to imagination or it's a tiny part of the planet and the rest is cooling! It's a fascinating site for a chat about the weather/climate, long may it continue , along with free speech, we are lucky to live in the UK! On 30 Nov 2020, Paddy, Aberdeen South, sub, 130m elevation wrote: 6˚C at 7.30, fresh SW’ly wind that turned quickly into the NW and gathered strength, cloudy with rain starting after 9 and continuing in bursts into the afternoon, some of them heavy, max temp 8˚, dryish evening with continuing NW wind but not especially cold with 4˚ at 8pm. On 30 Nov 2020, M Lewis wrote: Well the Sun has well and truly fired up! Lord Harris of Haringey the chair of the UK National Preparedness Commission will be busy from now onwards and have his work cut out! Presumably he has an "oven ready" Contingency Plan for dealing with Coronal Mass Ejections? On 30 Nov 2020, stephen parker wrote: Still people on here bemoaning model flips every few days- when will they learn?. Five days out you may as well read the tea leaves. On 29 Nov 2020, Paddy, Aberdeen South, sub, 130m elevation wrote: 3˚C at 7.30, light SW’ly breeze, clouds receding towards the S and paving the way for a bright day, max temp 4˚, some cloud in the afternoon, bright evening, full moon tomorrow, 2˚ at 8pm. On 29 Nov 2020, claude grayson wrote: our yoyo weather continues with a cool 9.8o/n 10c at 0600 and as i thought we went from 11c yesterday in the rain to 19.8 around 4pm when the sun came out. they are crowing this morning cos sydney had its hottest nov.nite on record 25,4 low,.taken on observer hill. heat rises doesnt it ??? also had a hot day 46.9 at 4.35pm.expecting a heatwave for 4or more days.interesting that Ben Davidson predicts more of such due to sun ,not humans.worth a watch of his video"Energy from Space l The Shift has Begun" if you haven seen it as its a 2015 model seems to be coming from same place as Piers.maybe he listened to Piers and acted on what he heard. On 29 Nov 2020, Fred wrote: M Lewis What will cool the Arctic waters is the now 3x20 / 60 approx cycle of warm water pulses into the Arctic Ocean from the Atlantic ended 2019. The year long lag circulation of warm pulse is now flushing out. I think 2021 will be a very interesting year indeed....as timing comes with a GSM underway....this NH winter will open some eyes, UK will get some big hits too....Also looking at models for next few days, HP to our west and a diving LP system to our east before a big plunge a few days later....Piers has/had that in his forecast. Worth getting folks, with updates imminent on new slat.... On 28 Nov 2020, claude grayson wrote: just realized another problem with the way we record data.that doesnt show the true story and for which i have no answer yet. Eg. Today it will rain till sometime in the afternoon,so the temp may hover around 11-13 C but when the rain is done the sun may come out and blast with nov heat so temp may shoot up to 18-20C for a short period.The high will not reflect what the day has been nor will an average of the H,L.so for all recorded history the H and Ls are all we have and do not reflect the true events,.Even treerings do not record the real weather as it takes 3 days of continuous frost to be recorded in a ring So our best efforts are subject to faulty data. Does anyone out there have an answer? On 28 Nov 2020, Paddy, Aberdeen South, sub, 130m elevation wrote: -1˚C again at 7.30, crystal clear sky, almost still bar a light SW’ly breeze, brilliantly sunny all day with a max temp of 3˚, frost remaining in shady spots & more like what you expect at this time of year, clear evening with a nearly full moon, 0˚ at 8pm. On 28 Nov 2020, claude grayson wrote: Lorraine ,no worry no one thinks one area makes a trend. Only raw data unfudged over a long period can show what is really happening,which is why the thinking ones see that the earth is cooling overall cos they use real data and ALL of it not just selective bits that support some idea for getting funding..you are lucky living in the nelson area cos everyone else compares their weather to yours.surrounded on 3 sides by mountains and only exposed to NNW_NNE winds your climate is to be envied.sure you get the odd cool days but not like the rest of us.Dont you have the record for most sunshine? M Lewis, just watched a doco on that very subject how as the ice melts the oceans cool and all the following effects,all driven by the sun.. yesterday we managed 16 H ,11L at 0600 and 1,5mm and its raining now with barely any wind.. On 28 Nov 2020, Mark Hall wrote: Thanks M Lewis, I do not doubt that the Earth is in a cooling phase that should bottom around 2040. Likewise that Trump, in reality won by a landslide, had the electoral process not been subverted. The same WEF Globalists behind AGW want him gone so they can really crash the system and default on the unsustainable $280 Trillion debt pile. Tempranillo and irony again failed to pull it off. Got to stop attempting that, late in the night and stick to my knitting. On 28 Nov 2020, Nick, Berks wrote: M Lewis. Earth's perihelions are annual - function of its year long orbit. Next one is Jan 2021 and the earth has been getting closer to the Sun since aphelion in July. Whilst other cycles affect the orbital dynamics they are very long and none of us should expect to notice climate effects from them within our lifetimes. El Niños and La Niñas cause short term blips by ocean turnover but they don't affect the long term trend (see e.g. the satellite series). Similarly ocean heat content and temperature has been increasing continuously for the last few decades despite melting sea ice. Net, don't hold your hopes out for meaningful cooling anytime soon, barring major volcanic activity. On 28 Nov 2020, M Lewis wrote: Rich and Mark, there are clear signals the Earth's climate is changing and now cooling. Australia is forecast to be wetter and more cyclones this year and next due to La Nina. https://www.9news.com.au/national/queenslanders-urged-to-prepare-for-more-cyclones-due-to-la-nina-weather-system/6e91730b-7559-4988-989a-fdec470d6a2f The acid test will be the type of winter that Australia and New Zealand experience in 2021 from June onwards. There should also be less ice melt in the Antarctic and Arctic next year. A consequence of the recent record ice melts is that the meltwater cools the Oceans. Like putting an ice cube in a glass of lemonade. So cooler Oceans should also help the Earth's climate cool going forward. https://phys.org/news/2020-09-arctic-ice-doesnt-boost-sea.html On 28 Nov 2020, Lorraine NZ wrote: @ Claude Grayson. Although there have been some temperature dips in New Zealand in the last couple of weeks, overall spring has been warm and last winter was mild. You appear to live in a cooler part of the Manawatu Claude but the temperatures you have been quoting recently are not typical of the whole country. I live in the Tasman District and it has been warm, even hot on some days. Just quoting the temperatures in one region does not give an accurate picture of the whole of the country. On 27 Nov 2020, Mark Hall wrote: Yes Rich, I complacently agree with you. The climate on Earth has never changed in all of its billions of years. And it is perfectly feasable for 4 swing states to vote for Trumpism in Congressional elections whilst rejecting him in the Presidential sphere. Nothing going on here, please move along. On 27 Nov 2020, Paddy, Aberdeen South, sub, 130m elevation wrote: -1˚C at 7.30, ice on puddles everywhere, barely perceptible SW’ly breeze, glorious sunny & still morning, max temp 6˚, fairly cloudy afternoon & clear moonlit evening, 2˚ at 9pm. On 27 Nov 2020, Ron Greer wrote: latest run of GFS doing the usual backtrack on degree and severity of a polar maritime outbreak forecast for later next week, that according to the Norwegian Met forecast would have brought snow down to 140 metres here in Highland Perthshire. On 27 Nov 2020, Rich wrote: It is interesting how it's always the next year that will be colder, but every year it moves back another year, driven by something else, bit like Trump's massive fraud claims, we will still be waiting to see the evidence of that years from now as well. Lovely late autumn day yesterday in E Cambs, sun gone replaced by fog today but nice to be free of wind and rain. I found myself getting excited about a frost yesterday, the same way as used to about snow, times and weather are a changing! On 27 Nov 2020, claude grayson wrote: just looked at our forecast and noticed the curent temp at the airport 3k SE is 7c town is 11c so what will they do with the temp, average it so it hides the 7 and shows as 9and presto we have global warming because its done everywhere..hide the raw data in averaging hide the extremes incase it shows cooling.hide the cooler truer temps taken in a better place with those taken in compromised areas.temps ought only be taken far as pos from any manmade structures.we wont hold our breath. On 27 Nov 2020, claude grayson wrote: M.Lewis,yep will be interesting to see,and listen to the climate c.believers crow when we get the odd spell of warm [normal]weather but total silence when record cold or unusual cold, hits.Have we down here heard any squeaks re the cooler start to our summer of course not.0600 its down to 7.4 and will go more i suspect as the sun rises.39mm rain for the week so much appreciated.Crops will all get a good start before any dry spells. "Beliefs "are not usually backed up by science but are associated with religions, so its odd that cc /gw has got such a following. i guess we can only hope that like religion we grow out of fairytales and want something more meaningful.Science ought always to ask WHAT does the RAW data say,un modified to suit current beliefs. . On 27 Nov 2020, M Lewis wrote: Ron Greer and Claude - comments on long term weather as follows. In January 2020, Earth was at perihelion - its closest point of orbit to the Sun. https://www.space.com/earth-perihelion-closest-sun-approach-2020.html We are now moving away again from the Sun. But interesting to note we had a record number of Hurricanes in Northern Hemisphere in 2020. https://phys.org/news/2020-11-record-breaking-atlantic-hurricane-season.html Likewise Mars was at perihelion - its closest point to the Sun in August. Since then it has experienced many Dust Devils / Whirlwinds and there is now a big Dust Storm brewing across the planet. Both Earth and Mars are now moving away from the Sun. So the climate will most likely start to cool - although there is a residual delay from the increased warming effect experienced during perihelion. I would expect next Winter 2021 to really get colder in the Earth's Northern Hemisphere. On 26 Nov 2020, Paddy, Aberdeen South, sub, 130m elevation wrote: 2˚C at 7.30, very light W’ly wind, somewhat cloudy morning followed by a bright afternoon with a max temp of 6˚, really clear evening and very still, temp 0˚ at 8pm, could be our first night of real frost. On 26 Nov 2020, claude grayson wrote: and we got more rain 9mm spread over the day so still none wasted and 14c low 23c yesterdays hi.today is cloudy and misty so far. M Lewis,and interesting thought re Kerry being a warmomger.not a lot connect the dots but ww1 1914 began in the year of the Tiger ,ww2 1938 really tiger,korea 50 tiger so dont be supprized if 2022 begins another.it wont take much of a spark. On 26 Nov 2020, Ron Greer wrote: M LEWIS: bearing in mind your information, how do you see things turning out in the British Isles and Western Europe.? On 25 Nov 2020, Paddy, Aberdeen South, sub, 130m elevation wrote: 2˚C at 7.30, quite a change from last night’s mild end, light SW’ly breeze, sunny all day with a max to 5˚, clear end to the day, Mars - Moon conjunction in Pisces, 2˚ at 9pm with light ground frost & still breezy from the WNW now. On 25 Nov 2020, Ron Greer wrote: M LEWIS: do you mean it'll get even warmer? On 25 Nov 2020, claude grayson wrote: rain we got .all 25mm spread over the last day or so so no drops wasted round here .others got a bit of flooding but thats cos they were greedy and didnt share.so mild with this rain only dropped to 15 overnite . M Lewis it is interesting to see that sc 25 has got going .i watch soho most days and wonder how long before we get clobbered by another of those flares,and if we are prepared enough.so many worry about asteroids but solar flares are a much more likely threat,and one biggy could set us back a long way probably more than any earthquake ever has. On 25 Nov 2020, M Lewis wrote: Well Winter Northern Hemisphere is starting to get very interesting! More solar flares are in the offing. Three of the biggest sunspots of young Solar Cycle 25 (AR2783, AR2785, AR2786) are either facing Earth or turning in our direction. They all pose a threat for C-class flares with a slight chance of even stronger M-class flares! This should certainly given President Elect Biden and his Climate Tsar John Kerry (ex Vietnam warmonger) plenty to think about! On 24 Nov 2020, Paddy, Aberdeen South, sub, 130m elevation wrote: 8˚C at 7.30, feeling mild in the continuing SW’ly wind, just half an hour of sunshine around midday, 10˚ max, followed by about an hour’s worth of light rain, still 9˚ at 8.30pm. Not complaining about the high temps, I still have a big bed of celery to dig up & store before the real frosts come. On 23 Nov 2020, Paddy, Aberdeen South, sub, 130m elevation wrote: 4˚C at 7.30, cloudy with a cold SW’ly wind, staying overcast all day, wind strengthening during the morning, max temp 6˚, light drizzle in the evening and temp was a degree higher, 8˚ at 8pm, surprising when I stepped out with the dog. On 23 Nov 2020, claude grayson wrote: finally we may get a bit of rain .gen we miss it here cos of ranges on NE-SW and mts wayout NW and N so orographics dictate, .but today we may do a catchup.tho the surface pressure map doesnt add up with the 3 day one so we will wait and see.Then when the rain is over it gets cold again .we are 8 C in the paddock and so is the airport. yesterday we managed 17.8..on a sunny day so we need to produce more co2 to keep the temps up to a nice 20C.but the sun still burns and burns good and you can feel it burning.but its a different burning to standing by the fire,a penetrating burn.not good. On 22 Nov 2020, Paddy, Aberdeen South, sub, 130m elevation wrote: 4˚C at 7.30, splendidly sunny morning with a fresh WSW’ly wind, getting cloudy by midday but still bright with sunny breaks, max temp 6˚, clear moonlit evening, 3˚ at 9pm. On 22 Nov 2020, claude grayson wrote: I went searching for sunspot research and found a site "Temperature" where 'Shindel"explains a drop in temp in stratosphere related to less Ozone which is what others say "less Ozone formed affecting planetary atmospheric waves ,the giant wiggles in the jet stream' so it is all tied together and creates one big headache for Piers. On 22 Nov 2020, claude grayson wrote: interesting Fred,.Ive just read the NASA blurb on sc25 and they think [in sept 18] that the cycle will be less abt 115 spots and below ave so will be interesting to see what transpires.as always they do include a ref to manmade polution as having greater effect on the weather/climate than any sunspots.oh well. i wish that co2 did warm us cos again this morning we are down to 4.5C at 0600 and dropping so someone else must be' hogging the blanket' and we may need to ask them to share it..must ask the local farmer how his maze will fare newly sprouted ,at 50mm high if we get a frost.mightent be too happy. On 21 Nov 2020, Fred wrote: The paper, by Scott W. McIntosh, Deputy Director of the National Center for Atmospheric Research in Boulder, along with Sandra Chapman, Robert J. Leamon, Ricky Egeland and Nicholas W. Watkins, says SC25 will also most likely be stronger than Solar Cycle 23 (sunspot number of 180). Piers your thoughts? This goes against a GSM On 21 Nov 2020, Paddy, Aberdeen South, sub, 130m elevation wrote: 6˚C at 7.30, feeling cold in the damp WSW’ly wind but brightening up for the rest of the day, wind strengthening, max temp 8˚, clear moonlit evening, 5˚ at 8pm. Dahlias are a more sensitive frost indicator than nasturtiums, ours in the veg tunnel have gone completely black the night before last, winter maybe? On 21 Nov 2020, George Whitebread wrote: Very sad to see the PM endorse the green revolution this week. The rapid switch to all electric vehicles will bring the country to a standstill as "just in time" delivery vans sit at the roadside for a couple of hours charging up. To think that Boris used to often reference Piers in the past. Piers you need to remind him who you are and that co2 is nothing to be scared of. On 21 Nov 2020, claude grayson wrote: so, Out East, to you, we are a tropical 12 C this morning.was looking at the WMO O3 article and how the current hole is above ave for last decade.WHY? if its our polution doing it and it was the smallest last year why has it grown.they say the 2019 was" unusually small and short lived driven by special met conditions." ....the large 2020 hole is driven by a strong stable cold polar vortex......kept the temp of O3 layer consistently cold.' O3 depletion is directly related to temp in the stratosphere " do they really know or are they trying to make some data fit a preconcieved notion..all i observe, is that while the hole is large we are not getting our summer.,and i see that the coldest temp in canada is -37,they along with the top of the US seem to be cold again. On 20 Nov 2020, Paddy, Aberdeen South, sub, 130m elevation wrote: 1˚C at 7.30, quite a bit of frost, white roofs & ice on water butts, but changing very quickly to warmer conditions in the increasing SSW’ly wind, bit of rain in the afternoon but much less than forecast, really strong wind by evening, dramatic skies with white low clouds illuminated by the nearby village street lights racing across a dark blue/black higher background, mild with 10˚ at 8pm. On 20 Nov 2020, out_east wrote: "only once in my life have we managed -13 and that was way down sth.how the heck do you do anything." -13C? it's cool but no worry at all. If no wind plenty warm. It starts to get cold around -25C, but the children still go to school down to -30C. Anything below that (usually january), and we just don't go out too much. Nice fur coats and warm hats, no big deal really. If however you decide to go to St Petersburg in January AND it's anywhere close to -20C, that's another story. The extra humidity from the sea, sure, when there's often a decent sea breeze...Yea sure that's biting cold on occasions! Once the sea freezes & river Neva it's fine. On 20 Nov 2020, M Lewis wrote: Well you would never believe it but a new committee, the UK National Preparedness Commission, is looking at what other unexpected future shocks we should be expecting after Coronavirus. Lord Harris of Haringey - the author of a report on improving London's terror preparedness - has been thinking about this question for the past few years. He is chairing the commission to produce some answers. First up on his list is the danger posed by solar storms. Back in 1859 the most extreme solar storm recorded to date - known as the Carrington Event - caused telegraph systems to fail. https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-55003034 On 19 Nov 2020, Paddy, Aberdeen South, sub, 130m elevation wrote: 1˚C at 7.30, that’s 10˚ down from yesterday morning, with a cold NW’ly wind that brought a nice snow shower a little later, turning everything magically white for a short time and gone half an hour later. Reasonably sunny for most of the day but with a max temp of only 3˚ it felt like we would get a hard frost, however by 8pm clouds moved in and it felt slightly less cold, 2˚ at 8pm. == Ron, some of our Italian alders still have all their green leaves when most other species are completely bare. On 19 Nov 2020, claude grayson wrote: gees Out East ,your not cold, thats damn freezing we'd all die in that .only once in my life have we managed -13 and that was way down sth.how the heck do you do anything.Here this morning i got up 415 to go see if there were any meteors from temple tutle but none before it got too light and here we are one month from longest day and down to 3.5deg with the fire going .that extra co2 weve been pumping out sure is doing its thing when theres no clouds round. NOT dream on greenies.maybe they,. like the flowers only come out when its sunny so of course its warmer.but i sence there is a minute change in attitudes because observations are making it harder for the lies to be continued.and cold snaps like this cause ?s to be asked as to why ?is it so cold so close to the longest day.45y ago we had snow on xmas day on the mtns. On 19 Nov 2020, Fred wrote: Re this update coming Piers....when will it be loaded.? Also it’s interesting as the models end of Oct jumped on a signal of the Cold November but then backtracked to the pattern we’ve been in. They have tried to bring in blocking but kept ditching that idea to a mild westerly set up. However, there is now a bullish change ahead with cold pM airmasses to flood UK and signs of trough disruption with potential northerly blocking playing it’s part. Piers, let’s have your updates please....got a ‘wintry’ feeling about this On 19 Nov 2020, out_east wrote: Plenty cold out here in URAL. An ice storm is hitting us this eve with strong winds and freezing rain. Forecast -17C this night and no sign of going above freezing until the new year now. From what I see it's forecast quite warm in the EU until a few days before christmas. Baltic states/SPB not expecting to see really any snow until year end. Last year the sea didn't freeze, and no ice roads at all. Maybe the sea may freeze this year. Who knows? it usually does! I have a strong bet this year is same as before, the seasons being out of sync 4-6 weeks, giving cold weather in Feb-March, rather than in Dec-Jan. Best time for ski in the alps? Take a bet on it, nothing will open until the Covid panic calms down, and late season snow falls. And what? This is supposed to be panic time? no! It's perfectly normal. On 18 Nov 2020, claude grayson wrote: woops got that wrong way on the o3 musta been too early in the morning .yours goes the same west to east, just my brain malfunction. on another note how much does the golf stream cool as it passes all the melting ice they say is happening in greenland and the artic or is it not melting as fast as they say therefore your weather is warmer than expected .one would expect the cold meltwater to have some effect as i see on the models the stream passes close to the toe of greenland and therefore must pick up the cold fresh water and as it floats on salt water must affect the weather till it mixes??? On 18 Nov 2020, Paddy, Aberdeen South, sub, 130m elevation wrote: 11˚ at 7.30, mild & cloudy with a fresh SW’ly wind, rain threatening by midday but not coming to very much, radar showed it was quite close to us in the south but it never reached us, apart from some light stuff. Max temp 1˚, quite a sunny afternoon but cooling down, wind colder but less damp, fairly clear evening with stars out, 4˚ at 8pm. Strong NW’ly winds forecast, at last we’re going to get some real cold, for a day anyway. On 18 Nov 2020, Fred wrote: Asim If you purchased the winter forecast you will get the new updates. I am very intrigued by this update news re Nov Dec and winter from Piers. There definitely is something not right going on. We have a full on La Nina but the atmosphere is behaving like we have an El Nino. Piers, get it out to us please ....can’t wait. What have been your findings forcing the amendment? On 18 Nov 2020, claude grayson wrote: Stephen,nothing like a good laugh first thing in the morning,but your so right ours is similar.As ive said earlier our local airport is abt 3k SE from me and today our temps are the same 8c whereas after its been sunny theirs will be higher, so really it has nothing to do with all the concrete and tarmac giving rising temps is it?haha mines out in a paddock with not much to influence it apart from cows when grazing that one .so if they went and lowered all temps 2deg to allow for human heat source would there be GW?.of course not but there would be a few scientists out of work.interesting to see that in the N hemi even you Ozone circulates opp ours in the S.so what is now just below greenland may pay you a visit in the next few days,on the 16th you were under depleted o3 On 18 Nov 2020, Asim Arslan wrote: Hi piers will I get a new update on the winter for forecast as I also purchased the old one ?? It’s for the uk Please let me know thank you On 18 Nov 2020, stephen parker wrote: Model watching more than five days out is akin to reading the tea leaves. On 17 Nov 2020, Paddy, Aberdeen South, sub, 130m elevation wrote: 11˚C at 7.30, mild & cloudy with a SW’ly wind, if we’d had sunshine it would have got warmer than the 13˚ max we had, drizzle in the evening, still 12˚ at 9pm. On 17 Nov 2020, Ron Greer wrote: M.LEWIS and CLAUDE GRAYSON: Well then, since yesterday GFS not now showing persistent easterlies late Nov/early Dec, but a run of westerlies/northwesterlies. Expect a predicted Spanish Plume by tomorrow. On 16 Nov 2020, Paddy, Aberdeen South, sub, 130m elevation wrote: 8˚C at 7.30, bright sunny morning with a light W’ly wind which turned back into the S by afternoon, bringing nice lenticular clouds, max temp 9˚, overcast by evening, 8˚ by 8pm. On a bare patch of made up ground we still have a Californian poppy flowering, it had appeared out of nowhere. It feels like October never went away. On 16 Nov 2020, M Lewis wrote: Ron - I'm putting my faith in Piers' long range forecasts rather than Establishment / Media cronies and Met Office / MeteoGroup global warming data and reporting. On 16 Nov 2020, Glenn wrote: Youre right about that Stephen. Absolutely not even a hint of the right kind of setup for a cold winter, there are no signs there at all. Also the last two have been mild so no reason to think that things will be any different this year. That's the thing about us british, we keep letting down by things. Couple another mild british winter with Joe Biden winning the US election and you have a recipe for complete and utter breakdown. On 16 Nov 2020, Ron Greer wrote: CLAUDE GRAYSON: more well made points and indeed I noticed the same syndrome in my own career in the civil service. A minor case of 'shockaroony', this morning looking at the GFS charts showing a persistent cold easterlies over the UK from the latter part of November going into the first week of December ( shades of 2010 ??) The cynic in me says ''watch out for mild south westerlies instead.'' On 15 Nov 2020, claude grayson wrote: yep Ron ,i see the problem starts at the foundation and they got that wrong cos they dont factor in all the info like Piers factoring in the jetstream,etc and sunspots ,just anything that may have a minute effect,so they struggle from the beginning but having pohued the likes of Piers they cant admit there mite be something in what he says so they continue to be made fun of for their stuffups.Our guys have their own Supercomputer now but still they cant get it right 3 or 4 days out often, because they dont put in all the info that may influence the weather.partly due to not enough reliable info being recorded.maybe in time the old guys will be replaced with younger more open minded ones who will look outside the box and ask why? why not ?at the moment i suspect any with those ideas are stiffled by those above them but their turn will come. On 15 Nov 2020, stephen parker wrote: Just got a gut feeling it will be a mildish winter here in southern England. Im 61 so ive seen a few On 15 Nov 2020, Ron Greer wrote: CLAUDE GRAYSON: well made points. Watching GFS charts is something of a game of watching predicted outbreaks of polar maritime air over the UK pare back in intensity, stay out in the Atlantic, skip suddenly to the east or simply be replaced by air from the opposite direction and all within a few hours. On 14 Nov 2020, Paddy, Aberdeen South, sub, 130m elevation wrote: 7˚C at 7.30, overcast & mild with a fresh SW’ly wind, cloudy & windy all day, occasional light rain, a heavy bout of rain by evening, 10˚ by 8.30pm. Haven’t had such a mild autumn for many years. On 13 Nov 2020, Paddy, Aberdeen South, sub, 130m elevation wrote: 6˚C at 7.30, cloudy with a strong SW’ly wind and a few light rain showers, sun coming out by midday, max temp 9˚, still windy by evening and stars out, 4˚ at 9pm. On 12 Nov 2020, Paddy, Aberdeen South, sub, 130m elevation wrote: 9˚C at 7.30, cloudy with a SW’ly wind that beefed up towards evening, fairly sunny for most of the day though with a max temp of 12˚, clouding over by evening, 8˚ at 9pm and still quite windy. On 12 Nov 2020, claude grayson wrote: Tony,your so right no-one does know, so we can only go on whats been to try to fathom what will or may be.when i began following the weather there was a huge hole in the Met data with no Observers for most of the lower quarter of the N.Is.so i volunteered and the forecast im proved,and therein lies the answer to most of the weather problems ,lack of observers,who can reliably say what is really happening.if everyone was observant and vocal about their obs the Met wouldnt get away with the stories they tell about what they think will be cos too many obs would come in saying the opposite..so be observant but obs are only any good if written down,Paddy is a good example,his obs are recorded and will be refered back to.some farmers here have records going back a 100 y.and the Met got them and i think ignored some of them.keep observing but record what you see and a patten will emerge. On 12 Nov 2020, M Lewis wrote: Claude - there is much physical evidence around the world that supports the theory that civilizations evolve during Interglacial Periods (such as ours) and crash and vanish during Ice Ages. Indeed, in New Zealand there is a megalithic wall at Kaimanawa near Lake Taupo that the Maori are adamant was not constructed by them or their ancestors. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vP3hZrbVdd8 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gmbD5O4ovl4 On 12 Nov 2020, Mark Hall wrote: Claude, You really ought to look up some stuff on solar, planetary and orbital cycles which all dictate the climate cycles you have alluded to. The cold dry period you mentioned caused the collapse of the Old Kingdom of Egypt. It was most probably part of a super cycle with the culprit being either the 900 year Bond (15×60 year Yoshimura beat) or the 850 year Semi (14 ×60 year Yoshimura beat). The collapse of the Hittite Empire, Greek Empire, Roman Empire and the LIA followed in a regular order. All around 850-900 years apart, so obviously a cyclical phenomenon. The good news though, is that the next really big societal collapse is not due for another several hundred years. "Heaven and Earth" by Ian Plimer is worth a look. And he is a fellow Antipodean. On 11 Nov 2020, Paddy, Aberdeen South, sub, 130m elevation wrote: 9˚C at 7.30, damp and windy from the S, rain starting up by 8 and continuing off & on all day in various amounts, occasionally heavy but not as much as in the West, 10˚ by 9pm. On 11 Nov 2020, Tony ex sub wrote: Got to agree fred I'm deff no expert but from what ive seenhere in northants is the same nature patterns as last year .....so many people with different opinions on here some say 2042 before real cold others it's just around the corner ....let's all be Frank and h8nest does anybody really know ???again not a criticism just an 9observation ....... On 11 Nov 2020, claude grayson wrote: PIERS CAN YOU ANSWER A ? please if its in your field of knowledge .I have just watched a doco on early civilisations and at about 1h30m thru,they say that around 2193BC there was a drought for over 100y recorded in Iraq,Egypt and China ,at least . We record it as ,The 4.2kilo yr Event , I guess to hide it from most incase we ask what sort of co2 and other polutants they had to cause such widespread drought for so long.Some think it lasted 300y. Any thoughts?.It must have been a massive climate change.Thanks On 10 Nov 2020, Paddy, Aberdeen South, sub, 130m elevation wrote: 10˚C at 7.30 and for the rest of the day, foggy from the start, fresh S’ly wind, some heavy drizzle during the morning, fog lifting after 7pm and at 9.30 there were a few stars visible through gaps in the cloud cover. On 10 Nov 2020, claude grayson wrote: now to those who ? the winter. its not that we will get cold immediately ,we might and other places wont ,its the long term cold ..we are going to get very warm weather that makes everyone think its GW but that has to be partly due to depleted O3 letting in more UV. But long term we will get colder because it is the cycle,warmer then colder then warmer but not as warm as last time but then colder than the last cold.etc for the next 30 odd yrs. then if it takes 3 cycles to cool surely it must take 3cycles to get back to what we have now..how long was the last mini ice age in total?? from the beginning to the end. just be prepared for cold and enjoy the warm while we have it. as the sunspots increase this cycle it will warm but then they will fade again ,and Valintina says cycle 27 will be the coldest. thats about 2042,if an asteroid doesnt hit first or a volcano erupt. enjoy what we have now. Im hoping like hell it gets warmer not colder. too old for cold. On 10 Nov 2020, claude grayson wrote: so still it rains in Napier and the posibility of thunderstorms giving up to 75mm/h and no real letup till tomorrow.now some are saying to prepare fo less rain by 5-15%over the next 70y given by the same ones who cant get it right 5days ahead.in building we were taught that if you get your foundation wrong you fight the result all the way to the end.and their problem is just that they do not have a wholistic base so are always struggling to get any sense from their data..they do say that with increased co2 more growth will occurin all plants but shortage of water will have an effect...on another note my temp on mon.was 11c so was the airport abt 3kSE this morn.after a sunny day yesterday the same 2 therms say13c at airport and mine wayout in a grass paddock says 11c.so of course we get global warming due to sun on concrete and tarmac being a heatsink. On 10 Nov 2020, Fred wrote: Got to say Nov has settled into UK supermild set with HP in mild position and Atlantic flow. There is a similar wave setting up in US....this is a similar lethargic all too common theme that has potential to cause a lot of damage to the winter ahead re cold prospects. I am not liking this Nina longwave set up. On 09 Nov 2020, Paddy, Aberdeen South, sub, 130m elevation wrote: 10˚ C at 7.30, another grey mild day with a S’ly wind, max temp 12˚, very foggy from mid afternoon onwards, 12˚ at 8.30pm. Not quite sure what season we’re in. On 09 Nov 2020, claude grayson wrote: and so it rained and then rained a bit longerNapier managed the second wettest day on record237mmand counting.423% of normal Nov rainfall in one day.Wettest hour since 1995,54mm between 5and 6 pm last nite. Probably why they have a state of emergency and why theres flooding all over and roads closed and evacuations.and power out to most of city.can never understand why we seem to like building citys on the flattest ground we can.rolling hills are much better.i spose its something to do with our love of concrete and not liking to walk up slopes. On 08 Nov 2020, Paddy, Aberdeen South, sub, 130m elevation wrote: 8˚C at 7.30, mild and grey with at S’ly wind which blew all day, a few light showers in the afternoon, very foggy evening, 9˚ at 8pm. Dull is actually quite restful :-) On 08 Nov 2020, claude grayson wrote: if your Northern hemi winter has started early ours down Sth is clinging on temps have dropped and will drop further with snow forecast on most of the S Is.passes and this morning met were talking of up to 160mm of rain on the Nth Is east coast..whether it eventuates we will know by wednesday but tonite ive lit the fire since the temp is down to 12 already and theres a brisk Southeasterly blowing with the odd shower flicking across. On 07 Nov 2020, Paddy, Aberdeen South, sub, 130m elevation wrote: 1˚C at 7.30, frost on car roof, sunny and still morning with a max temp of 11˚ around midday, cloudy afternoon as the cold front passed, stars visible in holes between clouds, a mild 8˚ at 9pm. On 07 Nov 2020, Tony ex sub wrote: Thx for the reply mark ... maybe you are right about the weather and I've no doubts you are right about the usa fiasco ....I guess only time will tell .....I think my not convinced lies from people on here who each year predict the start of real winters.....maybe some should work for the Express????? On 06 Nov 2020, Mark Hall wrote: Tony, don't count those chickens too soon. Coldest September in Italy for 50 years with snow on the hills around Rome. We are only at the equivalent stage of 1960 in the 20 year cooling that is about to happen. Remember the harvest failures in USA, Russia and China that ensued in the 70s. They were talking about a new Ice Age in those days. Insurance liabilities and commodity prices are going to ramp up inflation and wreck the debt markets. Maybe that's why the Globalists are trying to corner the energy sector. And go for this Great Reset. Trump was in the way so they resurrected dead postal voters under the pretence of a virus scam to get rid of him. Anything is possible now. But Global Cooling and the havoc wreaked by a meridional Jet Stream are coming up on the outside like Red Rum in the 73 Grand National. Everything is a cycle and it will be back to the future. On 06 Nov 2020, Paddy, Aberdeen South, sub, 130m elevation wrote: 4˚C at 7.30 and still no frost here in the coastal strip, light S’ly wind all day, very sunny day with no clouds, max temp 11˚, foggy by early evening and very still, 8˚ at 9pm. On 06 Nov 2020, Geoff wrote: I'm not a subscriber, but with no general winter weather warning having appeared on W.A from Piers for yet another year, it seems it's going to be yet another 'bog standard' Dec / Jan / Feb. On 06 Nov 2020, Tony ex sub wrote: I've not commented for a long time but read the comments with interest ...I was a sub before but found for me anyways the forecasts were not that accurate .....no slagging ....just the way it is.since about 2017 certain people on here have been predicting lia and I've awaited the start of the event told friends etc but so far no signs ....please correct me with facts if I'm wrong .....last year where I live south Midlands had a grain of snow and 10 frosts ....I wont for a minute pretend I understand bout sunspots etc but sorry to say it seems to me that the so called lia event is not coming . ..I do understand it diesnt mean months of cold snow etc but when you have a winter like we had last year I'm sorry but I have to be sceptical.....this is not a criticism of the work done on here just an observation...... On 05 Nov 2020, Paddy, Aberdeen South, sub, 130m elevation wrote: 9˚C at 7.30, cloudy with a light NW’ly wind, brightening up soon enough to give us a nice sunny and warm day with a max of 13˚ here, further inland even 14.5˚, clear evening and still mild with 9˚ at 8.30pm. == Maria, we’ll see how the rye works out, could end up failing but worth a try. Chickens would eat it before it gets above 6” or so as it’ll get tough, you’d have to keep them penned in though so that they don’t scratch up the rest of the garden. On 05 Nov 2020, claude grayson wrote: a friend just sent a link to EarthSky.org showing the Ozone hole this year is the 12th largest and once again selective data reporting as a scientist compared it to only 2000 when the hole was 24.8msqkm.rather than the 2006 hole which was 26,6m sqkm.interesting tho that they say the hole is healing yet explain how it is the reaction of the sun that causes the hole .must be a concensis thingy similar to the co2 settled science thingy.so yes it is getting smaller except if you compare it to 2019 which was the smallest since 1982 when the hole was discovered so is it getting smaller or larger depends on where you take your data.and what made the hole so big this year corona virus?? On 05 Nov 2020, Paul wrote: Looks like another very mild winter with the occasional near miss of cold air for this season. On 05 Nov 2020, claude grayson wrote: interesting stuff guys and have often wanted to calculate out how far under or out of water would some parts go if the crust did move seeing the earth is 26 k wider at the equator than poles .have wondered too if it isnt what began the earthquake and volcanic system so long ago.maybe combined with impacting asteroids and comets.did read somewhere that antarctica was 7deg N of where it is now at some point in the past..so how would that effect everyone else.it must be able to be calculated.which way would the UK go out or under.?our weather is crappy at moment farmers are having to plant in the short breaks between rain lucky its just brief and doent do too much to soggy the paddocks.our local farmer raced round the 2 wetish ones yesterday and finished it in the rain.but with the warmth of the last week not below 9deg grass is growing so fast, having to mow the lawn every 4 days,next week isnt looking any better .forcasting rain all week.. On 05 Nov 2020, Harris wrote: Hi Claude. Antarctica is much colder as it's predominantly land and much of that is very high so glaciers can just continue growing. The Arctic is just at sea level apart from Greenland. On 05 Nov 2020, M Lewis wrote: Claude - the geographer Charles Hapgood studied the ice cover at the North and South Poles and concluded when it is not in equilibrium, the weight imbalance can lead to Earth Crust Displacement and Pole Shift. Hapgood proposed the hypothesis that the Earth's axis has shifted numerous times during geological history and this resulted in Ice Ages. Einstein supported the hypothesis and wrote a forward to his book. On 04 Nov 2020, Maria (Ireland sub) wrote: A cold frosty start soon clearing with a beautiful sunny morning made some soup and dropped everything to hit the roads for a small 5 mile round hike, hills hit with sunlight in the distance looked fab and the last show of autumn leaves before the remaining few fall was a treat to see 🍂 some lovely warmth in the sun but dropped cold early and possibly another frost on the cards tonight. Good luck with your Rye Paddy, see a field I'm sure had some in today as looked so green and like rye. I'm learning a trick all the time as didn't know you could plant so late and you can also add it to the compost heap, looking forward to next year, thinking of getting a few chickens again next year to rotate about the place manure as they go and eat bugs would they eat grazing Rye? On 04 Nov 2020, Paddy, Aberdeen South, sub, 130m elevation wrote: 4˚C at 7.30, light wind from a generally W’ly direction, very sunny morning, getting too hot working in full sun, max temp 9˚, cloudy afternoon and evening, 6˚ at 8pm. That’s all our chicory dug up, 2x24m beds and managed to cultivate and sow grazing rye, latest I’ve ever tried, covered with enviro-mesh to stop the chaffinches pecking out the seed, will take about a week to germinate & another 10 days for the first reddish shoots to appear. The growing plants will retain many nutrients over winter instead of being leached out and evaporated. On 04 Nov 2020, claude grayson wrote: M. Lewis sounds normal weather then... .you guys up north are always cold,colder than us down here,and the tropics mostly wet.....does anyone know how much the small extra distance the N is from the sun due to tilt and combined with the orbital elispe have on making the N so much colder than the S,yet antarctica has more ice and gets lower temps On 03 Nov 2020, Maria (Ireland sub) wrote: A lot of rain and wind over Halloween weekend followed by a calmer cooler spell with sunny spells and the odd heavy downpour today. Cold out this afternoon so worked in the greenhouse on my first heatbench for spring, Cold tonight and maybe a frost possible, nice night sky. On 03 Nov 2020, Paddy, Aberdeen South, sub, 130m elevation wrote: 4˚C at 7.30, light rain, cold WNW’ly wind, brightening up during the morning and leaving us another sunny day with a max temp of 8˚, clear moonlit evening but still able to see Saturn & Jupiter setting in the SW and Mars roughly where the midday sun is in spring, 4˚ at 8.30pm. On 03 Nov 2020, Fred wrote: Subscriber- incredible to see the models predicting a synoptic pattern that is falling in line with Piers’ forecast, lots to develop yet but if you want to get ahead, get his forecasts now. As one large sunspot disappears two new cycle 25 sunspots appear. The uptick is starting and a tad later than anticipated so will be interstate to see if there is an increase in extreme swings even compared to the initial forecasts On 03 Nov 2020, M Lewis wrote: Effect of La Nina in Southern Hemisphere is as described in following article wet, windy, monsoons and cyclones. https://www.news.com.au/technology/environment/la-nina-declared-for-202021/news-story/68e2d39ca9482d2c0824e07169fa6cec Effect of La Nina in Northern Hemisphere is as described in following article bitter cold and snow. https://www.vancouverisawesome.com/weather/news/la-nina-bc-colder-winter-2706170 On 02 Nov 2020, Paddy, Aberdeen South, sub, 130m elevation wrote: 6˚C at 7.30, cloudy with a light W’ly wind but gradually brightening up to leave us with a sunny day with a max temp of 11˚, clear at the end of the day but then hazing over again, the moon visible through a veil, 4˚ at 8.30pm. On 01 Nov 2020, Paddy, Aberdeen South, sub, 130m elevation wrote: 7˚C at 7.30, another blustery day starting off quite wet but brightening up during the morning, strong SW’ly wind but not as powerful as yesterday, max temp 10˚, nice intermittent sunshine throughout the day, clear evening, 8˚ at 9pm. On 01 Nov 2020, Rhys Jaggar wrote: NW London October rainfall totalled in at 225mm, almost exactly 9 inches. This has smashed into oblivion any recent record for monthly rainfall for any month of the year in our back garden, but did come following a very dry September. We had no floods, our no-dig garden absorbed all the moisture beautifully and its drainage patterns left no standing water at any time. Shows that flooding is partly a function of the structure of soil onto which water falls, not merely the depth of water falling. On 01 Nov 2020, claude grayson wrote: anyone hear any squeaks on news about the huge hail that yesterday thumped Brisane aus some recorded 130mm,my daughter sent pics of their lawn with tennisball size down to golfball.many tile roofs damaged On 31 Oct 2020, Ron Greer wrote: thanks Rhys On 31 Oct 2020, Paddy, Aberdeen South, sub, 130m elevation wrote: 10˚C at 7.30, very strong SE’ly wind accompanied by heavy rain until around 11, drying up after that and sunny by 1.30pm, beautiful afternoon & evening, max temp 12˚, full moon tonight - blue moon this month - , still very windy, 7˚ at 8pm. On 31 Oct 2020, Rhys Jaggar wrote: Ron. There is an interesting article at WUWT about arctic sea ice extent over geological timescales i.e. 10,000 years. https://wattsupwiththat.com/2020/10/30/wheres-the-sea-ice-right-where-its-been-for-most-of-the-holocene/ There is a very interesting proxy measurement method described there using synthesis of a particular compound termed IP25 as a measurement of permanent sea ice vs. lasting sea ice, seasonal sea ice vs predominantly ice-free. The measurements are interpreted to show that arctic sea ice maximum extents occurred betwen 500-1000 years ago and that current levels are higher than for a majority of the Holocene period. If that paper stands the test of time and public peer review, it is yet another torpedo into the sinking climate chaos Titanic, something that is going to leave a lot of trendy scribblers without any reputation for judgement, probity nor capability. Dear me.... On 30 Oct 2020, Paddy, Aberdeen South, sub, 130m elevation wrote: 9˚C at 7.30, bright with a fresh WSW’ly breeze, sunny all day with a max temp of 12˚, midges out in force by afternoon in our sheltered garden, great moonlit evening with 5˚ at 8pm, lot of rain forecast for tomorrow. On 30 Oct 2020, claude grayson wrote: Mark, thanks interesting,my thing isnt a fixation just an observation that maybe just coincedence,in that id noticed over the last year or so that whenever the o3 was denser over us we got crappy weather and wondered if there was a connection,so read up about o3 and cos i worked out doors all my life wondered why?why we burn so much quicker now .i used to get my first suntan in early spring /late winterAug down here now i can get burnt anytime of year and i feel the sun burning in winter on a clear day so ask why?and enen this year with low sunspots so there has to be someting happened to let more uv through,since it is UV that does the burning isnt it?if not what?have we moved closer to the sun and they havent told us?any one could compare the o3 pics over time with the past weather record anyway but i cant be bothered and dont need to cos i have my observations and ?s On 30 Oct 2020, Mark Hall wrote: Also, the claim that human pollutants like CFCs are (or ever have been) harming the Ozone layer has been debunked by astrophysicist Sallie Balliunas and others. The CFC/Ozone scam perpetrated by Dow Chemicals/Dupont Corporation and the UN, which resulted in the Montreal Protocol, was a trial run for the current AGW scam. It was a much needed fillip for the Globalists after they failed miserably with their Acid Rain scam and their claim in the 70s that fossil fuels were causing climate cooling and precipitating a new ice age. They flipped that one round without batting an eyelid didn't they, fraudulent scum that they are? Controlling the Earth's population through energy was always the goal and the pretext was an adjustable detail. On 30 Oct 2020, Mark Hall wrote: Claude, think you might have taken your eye off the ball with this ozone fixation. The Sun's fluctuating heartbeat dictates the amounts of energy reaching the Earth's surface. Ozone is largely irrelevant compared to these cycles of solar activity. Ozone depletion is caused by extreme stratospheric cooling events (another function of solar activity), which is also why the big holes are above the cold polar regions. Conversely, Ozone production increases when solar activity is higher, because more thunderstorms means more ozone producing plasma bursts. But if you want to take heart, all of this implies one of those negative feedback loops that abound in nature (but never in fraudulent AGW theory). Here we go .... Active Sun>energetic atmosphere>more ozone>less UV reaching surface. And conversely .... Sleepy Sun>low energy atmosphere>less ozone>more UV reaching surface. But the dominant feature is what the Sun is doing, not an intermediate process like ozone accretion/depletion. On 30 Oct 2020, Rhys Jaggar wrote: Late October has brought much early snow to the Rockies and mid Western plains of the US and also to parts of Eastern Switzerland (but not further to the west). Records were set as low as 1500-1600m above sea level, which is a relatively low altitude for significant late October snow in Switzerland. Given that heavy snowfall to the Engadin and Graubuenden come on particular wind directions, often distinct to that in the Rhone valley, I do wonder if there are any teleconnections between early snow in Eastern Switzerland and polar air flows into the US Rockies? Or is it just one of those things? On 30 Oct 2020, M Lewis wrote: Alastair and Claude - do watch the embedded video about World Weather in the BBC La Nina article. The Northern Hemisphere gets cold weather and far more snow! Bring on the Little Ice Age! https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-54725970 On 29 Oct 2020, Alistair wrote: Lewis. I read that article and as far as I can make out it suggests that it will mean more wet weather as opposed to cold. It also seem to suggest that it will be the warmest year on record which will also infringe into next year as well. On 29 Oct 2020, Paddy, Aberdeen South, sub, 130m elevation wrote: 2˚C at 7.30, frost on car roof and on sheltered bits of grass, light S’ly wind at first but strengthening later, brilliant sunny morning with a max temp of 10˚, by midday clouds started moving in from the west and it started raining & continued all afternoon, steadily and occasionally copiously. Still drizzly after 8, and still 10˚. On 29 Oct 2020, claude grayson wrote: and just to top the year off they are predicting a moderate to strong La Nina event over summer here and wetter than normal up the N hemi.at least it helps cover their butts when it gets colder than expected On 29 Oct 2020, claude grayson wrote: m Lewis i tried to access that site and just got this site cant be reached. Piers what is the connection between thicker Ozone blocking out heating UV .my suspicion is that the science community know that the depleted o3 is what is causing the heating of the earth because we know that co2 wont do it.but for them to admit it would cause to much upheavel in getting rid of everything that causes depletion .the ozone hole over antarctica is no smaller this season than others unless minutely so,todays pic still shows the hole larger than the land or ice sheet and the yellow blobs of thicker o3 are bringing unsettled weather to us????? On 29 Oct 2020, M Lewis wrote: Wow Piers! It looks increasingly likely that the Earth is entering a sustained cooling period and your Little Ice Age is happening. https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-54725970 It ain't over till the mad scientist sings! On 28 Oct 2020, Maria (Ireland sub) wrote: A sunny fresh start that lasted until around lunch time reaching around 11 deg. then clouded over and some blustery showers passed through, darker moody sky mostly until dark partly cloudy with a good view of the moon and 6 deg now at 10.20pm. Paddy another year I have forgotten to have a go at chicory I'm sure we would love it too, I have managed to get garlic in the last 2 Autumns but always lots we run out of time to do, was a bit late sowing lambs lettuce this year and although I did aim for a succession they are very small so hope they happen as we love them and miners lettuce, we have the last bowl of tomatoes left on our block indoors and like you say they do still taste great, will miss them the most, they are what started me on this crazy veg growing obsession 😂 On 28 Oct 2020, Paddy, Aberdeen South, sub, 130m elevation wrote: 4˚C at 7.30, bright start followed by a bright morning, freshSW’ly wind, max temp 9˚, cloudier afternoon but still with an occasional ray of sun, totally overcast by evening, 6˚ at 8pm. == Maria: our standard winter greens are forcing chicory, which I hope to start harvesting this week, putting one box on the go every 10 says, and corn salad, which I have yet to thin, it can stand hard frost. We’re still eating lots of tomatoes, they’ve done incredibly well this year even from a late sowing, thanks to the mild October they’re still hanging on, have to take them into the house once they turn a bit and put them together with apples to help the ripening process, they’re a bit floury but still taste great. On 28 Oct 2020, Maria (Ireland sub) wrote: Some nice sunshine as well as showers over the weekend but the change is in the air. Today (Tuesday) started off with some lovely sunny spells, took to pulling out the cucumber and pepper plants in the tunnel and collecting the last hanger ons and harvesting habanero chillis Pak Choi beetroot spinach spring onions and lettuce, arms full half way down the garden caught out in a huge hail shower, no kidding they actually hurt a lil bit, a few more heavy hail showers then on return to the tunnel there was a good bit laying around and the cold air was undeniably wintery, so picked some Swede cabbage broccoli leeks kale parsnip n turnips, feelin hungry and in need of some winter cooking. ( I think the mice are hungry too as we have a visitor or 2 so they having peanut butter a la trap tonight :-) On 27 Oct 2020, Paddy, Aberdeen South, sub, 130m elevation wrote: 6˚C at 7.30, overcast with a SW’ly wind, strengthening during the day, fairly sunny morning but clouding up by midday, max temp 10˚, rain starting around 5pm, still going now at 8.30pm, 8˚. Mild autumn so far. On 27 Oct 2020, claude grayson wrote: is anyone on here live in the usa i see the current temps in the nth central is neg 8 as are many in canada in the negs . Down here we are having a bit of wet as a front moves up the country so rain all day yesterday and looks to be easing soon .good lite rain nothing wasted here as only 11mm with temps hovering round 9c On 26 Oct 2020, Paddy, Aberdeen South, sub, 130m elevation wrote: 7˚C at 7.30, overcast with a light wind from a generally W’ly direction, some warm sunshine early afternoon with a max temp of 12˚, a beefy shower around 4pm, moon peeking through the clouds by evening, 7˚ at 9pm. On 26 Oct 2020, Alistair wrote: I lover reading the comments and reports on here. They are far more informative than that rubbish you see on the Netweather forums. They can't make their minds up from one minute to the next. In fact after reading some of their posts I think it'll be better for me to simply look out of the window when wanting to know what the weather is going to be like. On 25 Oct 2020, Paddy, Aberdeen South, sub, 130m elevation wrote: 7˚C at 7.30, strong SW’ly wind with much cloud and a couple of showers in the morning, mostly bright though with good spells of sunshine, max temp 10˚, cloudier towards evening, 7˚ by 10pm. Still no frost, no complaints. On 25 Oct 2020, claude grayson wrote: so i just looked at the nasa graph of the arctic sept seaice since 1979and also the headline article shouting that the sea had never had so little ice in some parts since records began [Which was when? they dont say] and they also dont say the ice has to be increasing because 2012 was the lowest since they began satellite surveys and its not that low now. selective data On 25 Oct 2020, claude grayson wrote: well put Rhys,WHY?and down here we are having a front moving up the S Is with heavy rain up to 250mm in some parts,and the forcast shows a bit of snow too. having dabbled in dendrology for my own fun i have to wonder whether if they stopped averaging out data [,which is ok in some situations]we would get a different concept of where the weather patterns were going..but of course having all climbed on the gw CC wagon the science community must continue to fudge and alter data to try to uphold their delusions and so most of what we get doesnt make sense to us or them and they come across as floundering changing their story and the angle it comes from ,whereas if they ditched their dogmas and looked at the raw data with honest eyes the answers would be obvious.we wont hold our breath though. On 25 Oct 2020, Rhys Jaggar wrote: Some data things for you Ron: 1. https://nsidc.org/data/seaice_index/- look at the graphs for Antarctic Sea Ice and you will see no trend for September whatever since 1979: essentially the Antarctic Sea Ice has been stable for 40 years. 2. The Arctic Sea Ice data, on the other hand, has been losing 13%, give or take, per decade in September. Overall, right now, the Antarctic is about 1 million square km above recent average and the Arctic is about 2 million sqkm below recent average. So the question is why it is only the Arctic that is getting depleted and not the Antarctic. Why regional warming, not global warming? On 25 Oct 2020, Rhys Jaggar wrote: Ron The arctic sea ice refreeze is delayed in Siberia, apparently due to abnormal ocean warming and a very hot summer there. Of course, that is being reported, whereas the unusual cold across North America right now is not. I would expect ice along the NE passage to remain below average all winter, but you could easily see very large build ups on the Canadian side. That does not translate necessarily to total AREA of sea ice, but it may end up being quite a lot of VOLUME. Scientists long ago moved into the importance of discussing both area of ice as well as volume, but it is an important thing to think about, as it is volume that affects sea level, whereas area probably affects climate in the surrounding regions (either where excessive ice remains or where ice deficits build up). So right now we have excessive snow cover on land and a deficit in sea ice. Normality, climate chaos or Ice Age, Ice Age!? On 25 Oct 2020, Rhys Jaggar wrote: Just measured my water collection unit outside in NW London and it now measures 90mm collected, in addition to the 105mm I threw away after the vessel filled to the top in the first week of the month. So that makes 195mm for the month of October 2020 so far, which I am confident in saying I have not seen in a single month, ever. Not quite 300% of average, but not far off it. It just happens that this year there was heavy rain in the first week of October, whereas last year the analagous downfall was in the last week of September, so if you compared Sep+Oct in 2019 and 2020, they probably would not vary as wildly as all that. We have enormous piles of worm casts on our grass, so clearly the rain is not stopping the worms fertilising the ground's surface, despite 'chaos' bringing an end to the world imminently. This sort of rain is perfect to mature autumn crops like turnip, fennel, winter radish, not to mention the leeks absolutely loving it. On 24 Oct 2020, Paddy, Aberdeen South, sub, 130m elevation wrote: 23.10.20 6˚C at 7.30, overcast with the S’ly wind feeling much colder than earlier in the week, cloudy until early afternoon when we had a long sunny spell with a max temp of 10˚, clear evening with the stars out, 3˚ at 10pm, frost on the car roof. 24.10.20 8˚c at 7.30, overcast with a strong and blustery SW’ly wind which worked itself up to gale force for a while, ripping a couple of big branches off one of our Norway maples, rain for an hour during the morning, max temp 9˚ and a bit of sunshine in the afternoon, stars shining through gaps in the clouds, 7˚ at 10.30pm. On 24 Oct 2020, Ron Greer wrote: Rhys/Claude where has the Arctic sea ice gone this year? On 24 Oct 2020, Fred wrote: Interesting to see the ECM this morning pull away from massive High Pressure coming up from the south turn of the month to a deep LP over NW with a rapidly deepening LP swinging up from Biscay. GFS been toying with this and ECM now sniffing at it. Keep watching that period. On 23 Oct 2020, Rhys Jaggar wrote: Daily global snow cover as measured using satellites given in folliowing graph: https://climate.rutgers.edu/snowcover/chart_daily.php?ui_year=2020&ui_day=296&ui_set=0 The anomaly from the daily average is found at: https://climate.rutgers.edu/snowcover/chart_daily.php?ui_year=2020&ui_day=296&ui_set=2 Rather hard for climate chaos screamers to claim that 'climate chaos' means that children will not see snow again. Rather more children are experiencing snow today than have done on this day in the past. OK, many of them are in Canada, the northern MidWest and in rural bits of Russia, so they don't count, as only Central Park is important.... But it does show that lower than average snow coverage in September does not mean that the same will be true come the end of October.... On 23 Oct 2020, Steve,Dorset,UK wrote: Hi piers while looking atthe October forecast i get the following on that page DNS error Thought you would like to know.,thanks. On 23 Oct 2020, claude grayson wrote: any one else read this from wikipedia .....The IPCC AR5Report concluded that ,"it is very likely"that annual mean Antarctic sea ice extent increased 1.2-1.8% per decade........during the period 1979-2012...however ,sea ice grows faster than it melts......... must be strange ice if the globe is warming and the ice is still growing faster than it melts. On 22 Oct 2020, Paddy, Aberdeen South, sub, 130m elevation wrote: 0˚ at 7.30, bucketing down with rain from 6-9, not quite as much as back in August, but the duckpond was near overflowing, drying up thereafter, leaving an overcast sky for the rest of the day, max temp 11˚, down to 9˚ by 10pm. Cold NE’ly wind to begin with but then turning quite still. On 21 Oct 2020, Paddy, Aberdeen South, sub, 130m elevation wrote: 9˚C at 7.30, cloudy with a light SW’ly wind that gradually turned into the NW, bright from 10 onwards with a max temp of 15˚, feeling warm, but by 3pm the haar rolled in off the see and the rest of the day was foggy but mild, still 10˚ at 10pm. == Ron, I’m happy that we’ve not had any frost to speak of yet, but the recent rain has made the all the flowers look dreary, they’ve had enough. Come the frosts we’ll be into thinning our trees for firewood and planting some more where we have space. See roe deer practically every day when out walking the dog. == Maria, yes, timing of green manure is difficult, especially in autumn when there is so much to do with harvesting. On 21 Oct 2020, Fred wrote: Subscriber- thank you Piers all resolved . Guys Piers is under big crap from this BS cross govt hoarding of us. Let’s help out. Subscribe now more than ever....and I tell you it’s worth it even without the extra call of support. The deal is great...if you can...subscribe, the extreme changes are here and ....well get the forecasts...there’s plenty ahead On 21 Oct 2020, Ron Greer wrote: Though experience tells us that GFS is crap at predicting PM outbreaks over the British Isles, there is such a broad swathe of this airmass predicted for the opening of November that a chilly start to the month looks very likely. In parts of Scotland, there even be snow on Bonfire Night-----but let's remember---it's still a GFS forecast. On 20 Oct 2020, Maria ( Ireland sub) wrote: After some workable weather, rain and wind descended on us once more and the leaves that were slowly floating to the ground of their own accord on Sat. were more forcibly flung down by the weather today in a way that truly says Autumn is making way for winter despite our sentimentality, so back to pulling veg for dinner in the rain and the flip flops swapped for snow boots that eat your hiking socks and you still end up bare foot in the rain trying not to swear at the irony!-) Paddy yeah I keep meaning to get a green manure in and then the time slips away, should do it as we get so much rain would protect the soil, partly why I'm half no dig and then broadfork and mess about in other parts is compaction and lack of homemade compost can't produce enough and like yourself we grow lots. Peas were amazing for our own compost rows this year and the parsnips are so big, the no no dig rows suffered nematodes and almost halved my Swede yield, Rhys BD500 next year, will look into both hopefully On 20 Oct 2020, Paddy, Aberdeen South, sub, 130m elevation wrote: 9˚C at 7.30, light breeze from a generally S’ly direction, rain to begin with, drier spell with nice sunshine round the middle of the day and an agreeable max of 13˚, clouding up later with some more rain in the evening, 10˚ at 10pm and feeling really mild. On 19 Oct 2020, Paddy, Aberdeen South, sub, 130m elevation wrote: 8˚C at 7.30, rain for most of the day with an occasionally gusty SW’ly wind, max temp 11˚, 9˚ at 9pm. On 18 Oct 2020, Paddy, Aberdeen South, sub, 130m elevation wrote: Sunday 18th: 4˚C at 7.30, overcast with a cold but light N’ly wind which turned into the SW by afternoon, brightening up mid morning for a few hours with a max temp of 9˚ and then glooming over again for the rest of the day, light wind meant a relatively mild evening, 6˚ at 8.30pm. == Rhys, we have over 10x that area of garden to feed a big family, doing things on a bigger scale means finding labour-saving management methods, so I can’t be quite as neat as you, need to dig my rye over or it’ll be a weedy mess, it’s easier to hoe bare soil between the rows, using a Continental stirrup type hoe. On 18 Oct 2020, Paddy, Aberdeen South, sub, 130m elevation wrote: Saturday 17th: 7˚C at 7.30, overcast & foggy with a light NW’ly wind which kept going all day, drizzle off & on in the morning, a sunny interlude early afternoon, max temp 11˚, then back to greyness with occasional drizzle, 6˚ at 9.30pm. Been away on a short break up north, Wednesday was the only sunny day, beautiful autumn colours. On 15 Oct 2020, Rhys Jaggar wrote: Claude In the SE of the UK, we had an incredibly dry and sunny spring this year, but then we started getting plenty of rain again through the summer (particularly heavy event in early August). Then most of September was dry, but it started raining late September and the first few days of October brought close to double the average monthly rainfall. So here in the SE of the UK, we see no evidence of annual water deficits, even if the distribution this year was considerably different to the average.... On 13 Oct 2020, claude grayson wrote: so in the future any data recorded now will be suspect because it has not been collected honestly in areas free of human influence ie roads buildings etc.so Science has really screwed up in their haste for funding and will be looked upon with derision as the current lot look on the old past crew,yet the old ones werent tainted with dishonesty as the new bunch are.. On 13 Oct 2020, claude grayson wrote: so the Polarsternhas spent the past year in the artic and found the ice in the areathey drifted in was the lowest SINCE 2012 ,and 2nd lowest in the modern era and before that what was the lowest how low was it when admiral BYRD tried to sail the NW Passage .anyway it was 330000 sq mi more than 2012 .typical of modern science..and as always in an area we cant check.to my thinking a lot of the heating has to be coming from the depleted ozone letting more UV thro .have been following the OZone hole over antarctica and some days the hole has tenticals that reach up to us and we get hot days then as now a thicker patch comes around and we drop our temps again along with more unsettled weather.The NHemi has had depleted Ozone over the N pole over your Summer so it is reasonable to expect less ice, On 13 Oct 2020, Rhys Jaggar wrote: Paddy Small scale (i.e. 30sqm) you can just cover Hungarian Rye Grass with cardboard then put manure over the top at the end of January and then plant whatever you decide to plant in the spring. I did that for four 5m*1.2m beds this past year and planted them up with potatoes, and got great yields. Obviously, if your ground is already fertile you can chop the rye grass in April and then get ready for planting. I still had quite a few perennial weeds come through, notably bindweed, marestail and a third still to be identified, but with regular weeding up to the end of July I kept them in check pretty well. On 13 Oct 2020, Rhys Jaggar wrote: Maria When to apply BD500 is not an exact science, but around now is good, but certainly through to mid November is acceptable. Then in the spring, depending on how soon your winter cold abates, sometime between early March and early May. My view is to do it once you have harvested your crops in autumn and before you sow most of them in the spring. It is also very worth spraying your fruit trees with it - they tend to become more resistant to various diseases, notably pear midge. On 12 Oct 2020, Paddy, Aberdeen South, sub, 130m elevation wrote: 6˚C at 7.30, overcast with a light SW’ly wind at first which gradually turned into the NW by evening, steady rain from 9 onwards until mid afternoon, max temp 9˚, clearing up by nightfall with some stars visible, 7˚ at 9.30pm. On 12 Oct 2020, claude grayson wrote: one has to wonder just how long the Met S can keep up their dribble about climatechange amd GW in the face of the obvious,that they see every day as they go to work.maybe they all use the underground as transport and just dont see outside, that what they say doesnt match what iscold equates to dry less water vapour and so less precipitation.down here the East coast is already in restricted fire season cos a dry spring so far and even on the Western side we are way behind on rain and therefore groundwater.had 23mm yesterdayand overnite and more shws expected today but it is not catchin up on the defficit..temps are in the 7-19 range and another cool spell is coming abt thurs. Spring is here climate change .or are they confused between weather and climate On 11 Oct 2020, Paddy, Aberdeen South, sub, 130m elevation wrote: 7˚C at 7.30, fresh N’ly wind, bright to begin with but then showers and sunshine off & on all day, not particularly cold with a max temp of 12˚,down to 7˚ again by 9.30pm. On 10 Oct 2020, Paddy, Aberdeen South, sub, 130m elevation wrote: 5˚C at 7.30, overcast and drizzly with a cold N’ly breeze, sunny morning though but showery afternoon, max temp 12˚, some clear spaces between clouds by evening but still some drizzle, 8˚ at 8.30pm. == Thanks for the info, Maria. I’ve come to use Hungarian grazing rye as the most effective green manure because it’s quick growing and smothers weeds quite well, sown in the autumn; crimson clover is second choice but only possible from a spring sowing, good frost tends to kill it & you can just rake off the debris, but both these need turning over shallowly to be able to then cultivate the soil for crops. On 09 Oct 2020, Paddy, Aberdeen South, sub, 130m elevation wrote: 5˚C at 7.30, sunny with a strong W’ly wind, leaves beginning to fall seriously now, another mostly sunny day with a max of 12˚, a few light showers early afternoon and a fairly clear evening, 5˚ by 8.30pm, much less windy. No frost of any consequence yet but it will come no doubt, don’t mind if it holds off for a while yet. On 09 Oct 2020, Maria ( Ireland sub ) wrote: Ps Improver or should I say activator. I guess both!-) I prefer Physics but looks like I'm going to have to get into some biology now 🤓☕ On 09 Oct 2020, Maria (Ireland sub) wrote: Has been mixed again the last few days with sunshine and showers, cool start and end to the days as to be expected now, quite nice this afternoon for a time so took a break and sat with the sun at me for a free dose of vit D Always love watching how the light catches the colours In the trees this time of year. Paddy CD, Charles Dowding no dig, as Rhys says in the nicest possible way he is the dogs cajones :) Rhys I love the sound of BD, la sigh, more playing with cagada, at which time of year is most appropriate for this variety of soil improver, Halloween ? :-) On 09 Oct 2020, Ron Greer wrote: Multiple photo reports on Facebook of snow on the Scottish hills. Local one here had snow well below 3,000ft On 08 Oct 2020, Paddy, Aberdeen South, sub, 130m elevation wrote: 7˚C at 7.30, overcast with a WNW’ly breeze, brightening by mid morning and giving us a mostly sunny day, max temp 13˚, very clear evening good for star gazing, Saturn & Jupiter in the S, Mars in the E & all the constellations I need to learn again after not having seen them for six months, 4K by 8.30pm, could be frosty tomorrow morning. == Rhys, nice to hear your using BD method. On 08 Oct 2020, Rhys Jaggar wrote: Maria - CD is what we bad-a**ed guys call the canine 'Eier' (if you know your German, you will get the gist). I set up a new allotment this year using his methods (albeit the manure went down from Jan-Feb rather than in the autumn as it took that long to clear the jungle) and it is going great. Also adding in loads of flowering perennials to attract beneficials and tried out various green manures to use as compost sources. Hungarian Rye grass is great for newly cleared ground if you sow before end of September. Beans and peas best germinating in modules rather than in the ground. Phacelia and Buckwheat are great to create compostable material within 2 months and the winter tares is still in the ground right now. I've found that soil structure improves for 5 years using CD methods and if you also use BD500 biodynamic spray you find the soil fertility improves too. You can tell the little ones that 'mummy is playing at being a witch for an afternoon' as you stir the dynamising liquid! On 08 Oct 2020, Ron Greer wrote: GFS currently going for a sharp outbreak of PM air over the UK 20-24th of the month. The initial plunge is quite far west, so allowing for their usual mistake of not predicting that it goes further east, then it might actually arrive. However we might expect their next run to go for a warm southerly!! On 08 Oct 2020, claude grayson wrote: whos keeping secrets from us .just looked at the latest sunspot pics and 3 evenly spaced in line spots look like a smaller repeat of shoemakerlevy comet and jupiter.no doubt just a coincdence. On 07 Oct 2020, Paddy, Aberdeen South, sub, 130m elevation wrote: 8˚C at 7.30, light NW’ly breeze which strengthened later, some clouds but much sunshine today, max temp 14˚, stars visible through the clouds by night, 9˚ at 8pm. Maria, who’s CD? On 07 Oct 2020, Ron Greer wrote: looks like a fair possibility of snow on the higher Scottish hills from tomorrow, through to Sunday. Best colours I've seen on the maples up here for years On 07 Oct 2020, Barry Jones wrote: When will the full October forecast be uploaded? On 06 Oct 2020, Maria (Ireland sub) wrote: Rhys I reckon your crop success is partially the CD effect 🤓 since I've been reading his books we've had a higher yield of each veg coming out of the garden, filled a dozen 7.5kg re-cycled potato sacks full of spuds for storing, that must be almost 200 pounds of spuds plus eating earlies and 2nd earlies all summer into Autumn, was chuffed too as when we get so much rain the quality isn't always as good as this years for storing. On 06 Oct 2020, Maria (Ireland sub) wrote: A mix of cloudy and sunny spells today, the odd scattered shower, max 11deg. felt mildish in the sun despite the NW'ly breeze, went for a walk just to see some autumn colours. Feeling cooler tonight with a fab clear starry night sky. Almost forgot, we have had 3 light frosts already since Sept. Thanks Paddy :-) On 06 Oct 2020, Paddy, Aberdeen South, sub, 130m elevation wrote: 9˚C at 7.30, misty & autumnal with a very light NW’ly breeze, brightening up after 10 to some good spells of sunshine until mid afternoon, max temp 13˚, cloudier thereafter, one shower early evening & then back to reasonably dry with stars peeking out through the clouds, 10˚ at 9pm & feeling mild. On 06 Oct 2020, claude grayson wrote: our Met has links to the Jap Met and show the animated infrared clouds around the sth pole and it is interesting to see how the major cold weather is just skimming across the hi40s low 50s lat and we up north arent getting the snow as we used too.i know they will say glb warming but it cant be else the cold will be dragged further north so even the tropics must be cooling just as predicted by those who study sun spots and it must really frustrate the Met that no matter how much they want warming the weather just doesnt listen and behaves in a cooling patern. On 05 Oct 2020, Paddy, Aberdeen South, sub, 130m elevation wrote: 10˚C at 7.30, overcast all day with only a few light intervals, drizzle in the morning, one heavy shower in the afternoon and drizzle now, max temp 13˚, light & not very cold NE’ly wind, 11˚ at 9.30pm. Welcome back, Maria :-) On 05 Oct 2020, claude grayson wrote: Rhys check outthe Eldorado site for a sattelite pic of where your rain came from .weve just last nite come back from a week in the top of the STH island where on sun /mon they had more snow to abt 4/500m than they had all winterdrifts were so deep on the tops lee side they were still vis after 3 days..had 50kt winds coming back on the ferry so they chased everyone off the top deck.spoilsports. On 05 Oct 2020, Maria ( Ireland sub ) wrote: October already :?) Hope you have all had a good summer and doing good. Planting 140 garlic with the tiny chatty one yesterday (*day before yesterday) the day was beautiful albeit a lil breezy but some good sunshine at times and for a period in the afternoon, a great day. Overall a good season for a fairly wet summer dry milder late spring and dryish early Autumn for us, we ate all we could freezed and/stored what we couldn't, totally enjoyed seeing the tiny one ( & bigger ones ) eat so much veg straight out the garden, def. our biggest bare foot pea thief yet tho and only 2 :) Today rain following on from overnight and quite windy but not too bad and to be honest glad for the rest def. on the edge of burn out, time to re-charge enjoy picking the autumn & winter crops and take it down a gear....might grow a few microgreens again this aut/winter though. On 04 Oct 2020, Paddy, Aberdeen South, sub, 130m elevation wrote: 12˚C at 7.30, still raining until around 10, mostly dry or non-wet for the rest of the day bar one hefty shower, even a glimpse of blue sky with a max temp of 14˚ in the afternoon, clearing up somewhat from the north by evening, could see a few stars out while walking the dog, Polaris among others, a mild 11˚ by 9pm. On 04 Oct 2020, Rhys Jaggar wrote: My measuring jug for rainfall on our patio table is full this morning with 105mm of rainfall since 1st October. The earliest in a month I have ever had to empty it out to continue collection within one month. The highest monthly average rainfall for the year happens in these parts to be October, with around 70mm, so 105mm by October 4th is somewhat unusual. But it is the second year in a row that soon after the equinox 4 inches of rain has fallen in a few days. Moisture for all autumn crop growth is now assured. On 03 Oct 2020, Paddy, Aberdeen South, sub, 130m elevation wrote: 8˚C at 7.30, light rain at first, then steady stuff all day and still going now at 9pm, never expected that much as it was nowhere to be seen on the radar last night, good job no-one has to rely on me for forecasting, light NW’ly breeze at first, gradually turning into the NE and strengthening as it got towards evening, rain forecast until midday tomorrow, it’s now the big wet until spring time, 12˚ at 9pm, feeling mild. Yes, Ron, it’s been pretty spectacular; as the growing season is over I’m not so bothered anymore about knowing what to expect, I really didn’t see this one coming and Beebomet so often get it wrong. On 03 Oct 2020, Ron Greer wrote: PADDY; multiple synoptic charts showing that very high level of rainfall is due on Saturday on easterlies/north-easterlies, with up to a 100mm due in a 24 hour period and major flooding problems very likely. I take it you have not seen the TV forecasts? Looking at the synoptic pattern have been thinking that if we were in Dec-Jan we'd have record snowfall. I see GFS is going for rather cool weather in October for Scotland. On 03 Oct 2020, Rhys Jaggar wrote: Ron, thanks for that. Down here in NW London, we have had 60mm+ of rain the first three days of October and it continues to pour down, so well over a month's worth by the end of the weekend, I think. Does mean that from now on, I can overlay the compost to the garden and allotment with a guarantee that the soil below will be full of water. September was mostly dry, so things tend to even up. Has been an epic summer for squash growing, looking great for potatoes too: harvested 50lb of Arran Victory from 12 planted tubers a week ago and both Desiree and Sarpo Mira looking fantastic. This rain should really help tubers to swell up nicely. Looking great for winter radish, radicchio, late beetroot, parsnip, leeks and swede. Really wonder about all these supposed 'crop failures'. I am just an amateur, but my harvests are better than ever. What is it that I know that professionals don't? Or am I just a lucky boy?? On 02 Oct 2020, Paddy, Aberdeen South, sub, 130m elevation wrote: 7˚C at 7.30, a very sunny morning and afternoon, albeit with some large and puffy cumulus clouds which obscured the sun from time to time, light SW wind gradually turning into the E, max temp 14˚, clouding over just after sunset, still 11˚ at 10pm & felling mild in the still air. Yellow rain warning for tomorrow, looking at the radar now, not totally sure yet where this is supposed to be coming from. On 01 Oct 2020, Ron Greer wrote: Rhys: Aye several reports, including photos on Facebook, of snow in the higher parts of the Grampians. Looks like more is likely given the wind direction and high precipitation levels. With a northerly/ easterly airstream and with sea level temperatures at Aberdeen 12C or lower then there's a fair chance of snow about 1000 metres. On 01 Oct 2020, Paddy, Aberdeen South, sub, 130m elevation wrote: 8˚C at 7.30 and throughout the day until now at 9.30pm. Rain and drizzle all day with a cold NW’ly wind. That’s about all there is to say. On 30 Sep 2020, Paddy, Aberdeen South, sub, 130m elevation wrote: 10˚ C at 7.30, short bit of sunshine in a growing S’ly wind before the rain started around 9 and kept going until late afternoon, not heavy but constant, wind turning into the SE eventually, max temp 11˚ and still that at 10pm. On 29 Sep 2020, Paddy, Aberdeen South, sub, 130m elevation wrote: 4˚C at 7.30, quite bright, light W’ly wind which eventually turned into the S, real sunny and warm day with a max temp of 16˚ but feeling much warmer in full sun, clear evening with a near full moon, quite still and feeling mild with 7˚ at 8.30pm. Rain forecast for tomorrow, remains to be seen whether it happens. On 28 Sep 2020, Paddy, Aberdeen South, sub, 130m elevation wrote: 6˚C at 7.30, cloudy with a light but cold SW’ly wind, brightening up somewhat in the afternoon with a max temp of 14˚ and a few drops of rain for a short while, clearing from the W by evening and not feeling cold with 11˚ at 8pm. On 27 Sep 2020, Paddy, Aberdeen South, sub, 130m elevation wrote: 5˚C at 7.30, still cold & windy from the N though the wind gradually lessened as the day progressed, cloudy at first but then brightening up to hazy sunshine by afternoon, max temp 13˚ and so still by then that the midges were out, complete contrast to yesterday, 7˚ at 8.30pm. On 27 Sep 2020, Rhys Jaggar wrote: Any snow fall over the Scottish mountains the past few days? I typed in 'snowfall in Scotland' into a search engine, limited searches to 'past day' and got listings to the Freemasons, to Ballarat in Australia and other nonsensical drivel. The time really has come to ditch commercial search engines and replace them with communally owned ones which lists entries according to relevance, not size of bung paid. On 26 Sep 2020, Paddy, Aberdeen South, sub, 130m elevation wrote: 5˚C at 7.30, wet from a bit of overnight rain, sunny but cold in the fresh N’ly wind which blew all day, gaining in strength, only abating in the evening, max temp 11˚ but with the dropping wind we still had 7˚ at 9pm and feeling mild in comparison to earlier on. On 26 Sep 2020, Gerry Surrey-Kent border 164ft wrote: Sadly Rich you are not making any sense whatsoever. The current Arctic ice sheet courtesy of NSIDC shows the Russian coastline to free of ice. So no ice breakers are necessary. There was a lot of talk of how cold it was today at football. I wish I had another layer on to ward off the strong north wind. Had the gas heater on in my study for the first time and will have the fire lit again. Australia has received another blast of cold with snow in places for the first time in decades. Funny how we get a full story of a polar vortex bringing the cold but then the same doesn't happen when it is warm - that's only ever due to climate change never the pattern of the wind. On 26 Sep 2020, Rich wrote: Hello Gerry They need icebreakers, more military presence etc as the arctic is now seen as an area that will be increasingly likely to be exploited due to the receding ice cover, 20--30 years ago it was that locked up with ice so nobody could exploit anything. However, please feel free to bury your head in the sand. Im not even saying why the ice has retreated or that it hasn't happened historically, just that it has and continues to recede. Or you can ignore facts, its a free country, unlike some (suspect some will argue over that as well, which you can as its a free country..thats the point, .try doing that in Russia, Belaruse etc). On 25 Sep 2020, Paddy, Aberdeen South, sub, 130m elevation wrote: 5˚C at 7.30, cloudy with frequent showers all morning, brought in on a cold and often gusty N’ly wind, some sunshine in the afternoon with a max temp of 11˚, quite a clear evening and 7˚ at 8pm. == Gerry, yes, there always comes that point in the autumn from which onwards the soil never dries out again until spring; yesterday it was still dry but today the change appears to have happened. Farmers have been lucky this year, being able to harvest as well as bale most straw. On 25 Sep 2020, Fred wrote: Record cold and unprecedented snow continues in Australian Spring. North American Continent has been cooling for 5 years. The jetstream is getting ever more meridional, the signature of the LIA circulation is accelerating. I believe this autumn and winter will support....Piers resolve my forecast issue please....I still can’t access it. On 25 Sep 2020, Gerry 164ft Surrey-Kent border wrote: If the Arctic ice is melting away then why would the Russians need ice breakers? The ice records are no more reliable than the temperature records. Not necessarily due to fiddling but just in data gathering. Until the alarmists can explain why there is plenty of anecdotal evidence referring to even lower levels of ice, what caused that and why is that different to now, then it remains nothing to be concerned about. The equinox has certainly brought a change. Lots of rain, much colder, mist started to waft over the pitch at last night's football under clear skies. Misty drive home. Feels like that change from the ground being dry and dusty to now always being damp has come. On 24 Sep 2020, Paddy, Aberdeen South, sub, 130m elevation wrote: 5˚C at 7.30, light N-NW’ly wind all day & mostly overcast but with a few rays of sunshine breaking through in the afternoon and quite clear by evening, max temp 13˚, down to 7˚ by 8pm. I actually don’t mind the cold, even enjoy it, but after the row of warm days that ended on Tuesday it takes a bit of getting used to it again, especially in the morning. On 24 Sep 2020, Rich wrote: Hello Claude Yes I'm sure the info is real, very reputable, have watched for many years, The arctic ice is dropping, of course some people prefer to believe its fiddled as its doesn't support there views (leaf from D Trump play book)- sure your not one though. Whether you believe the ice is dropping for man made/ natural reasons doesn't matter, but the ice continues to decline. Thats why the Russians etc are building ice breakers to exploit the region, as the ice melt is opening up the region for exploitation, On 23 Sep 2020, Paddy, Aberdeen South, sub, 130m elevation wrote: 4˚C at 7.30, first touch of frost on the car roof, bright with clouds and a light, cold NW’ly breeze, complete change. Max temp 15˚, cloudier afternoon & cool evening, 12˚ at 8pm. We haven’t had rain for quite a while no, so everything is quite dry. On 23 Sep 2020, Fred wrote: SubscriberHI Piers As you have sorted Steve Dorset re Oct forecast could you sort my full autumn and full winter please. Regards Fred On 22 Sep 2020, Paddy, Aberdeen South, sub, 130m elevation wrote: 9˚C at 7.30, cloudy with a strengthening cool SW’ly wind that almost reached gale force at times, on cue for the equinoctial gales, occasional filtered sun, max temp 16˚, wind abating somewhat towards evening, 12˚ by 8pm. On 22 Sep 2020, Steve,Dorset, UK wrote: Thanks for the October forecast Piers, as we saw you have had your problems of late, thanks again and good luck with your endeavours. On 21 Sep 2020, Paddy, Aberdeen South, sub, 130m elevation wrote: 7˚C at 7.30, overcast, very still and brightening up around 9, light SW’ly breeze that turned into the NE by mid afternoon, leaving us with a continuation of the Indian summer, 5th day in a row of elevated temps, 22˚ max at this time of year is just brill, cloudy again by evening, 13˚ at 8.30pm. Temps will drop tomorrow though as autumn begins, equinox at 14:30. == M Lewis: exactly! On 21 Sep 2020, M Lewis wrote: Well the Autumn Equinox arrives tomorrow and the UK Indian summer weather is changing from mid-week and we go into Autumn, cold and flu season and possibly another nationwide Lockdown. UK and Government Scientists now believe the Covid-19 fatality (death) rate is closer to 1% (1 person in every 100). If that is the case, then why the multiple lockdowns across the UK? Why not let the fit and healthy continue their lives and gain herd immunity and instead only protect the frail and medically vulnerable (eg those with breathing difficulties or heart problems). There seems little chance that MPs will vote to prevent extending the Coronavirus Act 2020 at the end of this month. Groundhog Day. Rinse and Repeat! On 20 Sep 2020, Paddy, Aberdeen South, sub, 130m elevation wrote: 7˚C at 7.30, yet another sunny day with alight S’ly breeze, max temp 19˚, slowly hazing over in the afternoon and then clouding up completely by evening, 12˚ at 8pm. We appear to be having the proverbial Indian summer, more sunshine & warmth forecast for tomorrow. On 20 Sep 2020, claude grayson wrote: Rich are you sure its the second lowest arctic ice on record and how far back did the record go . Stumbled onto a site yesterday REAL SCIENCE and he showed how so many graphs are didtorted by not including the years past that were lower or higher .selective graphing.if anyone is going to use a plot for any reason starting from when data was first kept then use all data from when first kept not as so much science does begin in 1960 for one lot then 1978 for other and say1942 for other .it amounts to fraud.and is what current science is based on .manipulated data.i want raw data not averaged out ,glossed over data to make it look like something is happening when its not. On 20 Sep 2020, Gerry Surrey-Kent border 164ft wrote: Well so far it has been a sunny day so GFS was wrong in predicting rain but it may have changed its mind yesterday but then that is hardly a forecast. Re embankments: it could be that grass holds the surface together better but also allows the water to drain away quicker which stops the embankment becoming waterlogged. Any soil engineers here? Could do with some rain as it is still very dry here and having to do some watering of plants. The sun has gone another 30 days spotless bringing it back up to 70% so far. There have been some cycle 25 spots but they are very shortlived. While we might have passed the bottom of the cycle the number of spots in the years ahead will be of interest to see if there is a continued weakening of the cycles. Between 2011 and 2015 there were only 3 spotless days but in the coming years? On 20 Sep 2020, Fred wrote: Piers Disgraceful bully boy tactics by Piers Morgan and GMB team. That Laura is useless screeching, more extremes with AGW. However, you did let her in by not emphasising the synoptic pattern of the cold and snow at a certain time this winter. By just saying it’ll be cold and snow she jumped in saying it’s winter so big surprise it will get cold with snow. You should have been more detailed and challenged her. She can’t forecast more than 3 days ahead! Also can you load my forecasts please, you still haven’t done that. On 19 Sep 2020, Ron Greer wrote: RICH; well I think we can say that global cooling has not occurred as so far predicted. Increased volcanic activity may change that if it is indeed linked to solar minimum. On 19 Sep 2020, Paddy, Aberdeen South, sub, 130m elevation wrote: 6˚C at 7.30, another sunny day with wall-to-wall blue skies, the cool NE - SE breeze did not stop the max temp getting to 20˚, ideal autumn weather with cold nights & warm days, 11˚ at 8pm. On 18 Sep 2020, Paddy, Aberdeen South, sub, 130m elevation wrote: 9˚C at 7.30, brilliantly sunny all day and a little warmer as the NE-SE’ly wind was less strong, 21˚ max, barely a cloud in sight, balmy evening, 8˚ at 11pm. On 18 Sep 2020, Rich wrote: Arctic ice extent has about reached its summer minimum, 2nd lowest on record...sure somebody on here said it had started recovering?? Still on course for warmest UK CET year, if we keep going at average rate this year, only 1 month below average in 2020. Keep waiting in the UK and Arctic (not judging weather just on UK) to see cooling impact. No doubt be told its a temp lag as per past several years probably in several more year time as well be told same thing. On 17 Sep 2020, Paddy, Aberdeen South, sub, 130m elevation wrote: 7˚C at 7.30, bright from start to finish with hardly a cloud in the sky, fresh S’ly wind that kept a lid on temps but we still got 18˚ max, stars beginning to come out around 8.15pm, Jupiter in the S before all others, 11˚ at 8.30pm. == Gerry, one would think that trees hold the soil better than just grass but it may be that made-up embankments are a special case. On 17 Sep 2020, Ron Greer wrote: Solar minimum over. How was climate affected? On 17 Sep 2020, Gerry 164ft Surrey-Kent border wrote: A bit of sun later on yesterday and warm into the evening before dropping in an east wind. Bright and sunny today with a blustery east wind and 68F at 1pm. For Sunday, wunderground has now removed the showers and on ventusky ICON is showing up to 1300hrs and joining GEM with no rain. GFS says rain. Paddy:- had a number of embankment slides around here and evidence of works in a cutting to either prevent it or repair before I moved here. One thing that has changed since they were built is trees. To save money they stopped a lot of tree cutting and of course since steam went they would argue there was no need of it. Of course we then had the leaves on the line problem such that they running cleaning trains now. There has also been a lot of cutting back. But have the trees allowed more slippage than just grass banks? On 17 Sep 2020, Ron Greer wrote: GFS going for quite a sharp intrusion polar maritime air over the last weekend of the month. Killing frosts and snow on the hills a distinct possibility if this transpires.. On 16 Sep 2020, Paddy, Aberdeen South, sub, 130m elevation wrote: 10˚c at 7.30, cloudy but dry all day with a NE’ly breeze which turned into the SE by mid afternoon, max temp 15˚, down to 10˚ by 10pm. Remarkable temp contrast to yesterday. == Gerry, sure, never seen so much water in my short life is of course meaningless in any wider context and I’m certainly not making any “unprecedented” claim. But the amount of rain that fell in such a short time rendered most drains useless, it was impressive, fatally so for the three people killed on the train. - Re cherry plums, I’ll give the rarity aspect some consideration :-) On 16 Sep 2020, Gerry 164ft Surrey-Kent border wrote: Hit 84F yesterday afternoon on the patio and it was warm and muggy into the evening. Watched football in a short sleeve shirt all evening. Not a breath of wind in the evening. Different today as there is a breeze, cloud cover and 72F at 1pm. Am having to water some youngish trees as they suffering from lack of rain. Could be some come Sunday but then it depends on your model. If you look at Ventusky for Sun you only have GFS or GEM at the moment and for SE England you will either get wet, or you won't. ICON only does 2 days ahead. Paddy: could cherry plums not command a high price due to their rarity? I have its Bird Cherry replacement potted up ready to plant out is 2 years or so. Re storm - that you have never seen so much water doesn't make it certain it has never happened before. And if it is has then what makes the recent one different? Paul Homewood said records showed it was not exceptional. Blocked drain more likely cause. On 15 Sep 2020, Paddy, Aberdeen South, sub, 130m elevation wrote: 14˚C at 7.30, light rain throughout the morning with a mostly SW’ly breeze, warm though with a max temp of 20˚ by mid afternoon when the sun finally came out, cloudier in the evening, the breeze having changed to a N’ly direction but still 16˚ at 8.30pm, all the recent warmth making up for the cold August we had. On 15 Sep 2020, claude grayson wrote: if the sun is cooler with no sunspots does it not follow that all weather will not be dragged as close to the equator as in other years and that it will take time to adjust to that new patten.because the tropics wont be heating as much the weather that normally falls in a certain area will no longer fall there but closer to the poles so if you happen to be close to a coast heavy rain that used to fall at sea now falls on land and we think weve never had rain like it before because there arent any guages at sea to let us know how heavy it was... our weather pattens down here all seem to be further south than other years snow is not as heavy in the north island and its been slowly happening for many years.since the mid 80s..the Mets problem is they dug a big climate change hole and now everything is blamed on it and any thing else is ignored...they cant see because the hole they dug is too deep.. On 14 Sep 2020, Paddy, Aberdeen South, sub, 130m elevation wrote: 13˚C at 7.30, cloudy for most of the day with a fresh SW’ly wind but warm & close with a max temp of 20˚, some sunshine in late afternoon, 14˚ by 8.30pm. Forecast for Wed is rather cool. == Gerry, our cherry plums that looked so promising have all been either eaten by the birds or shaken off the tree by the wind, we just managed to get two between the wife and me, glad we didn’t try and start a business with that. The rail accident happened about 12 miles south from us, shameful that it should be blamed on climate change. That said, it was an exceptional storm, never seen so much water in such a short time. On 14 Sep 2020, Gerry 164ft Surrey-Kent border wrote: Last week Denver went from summer to winter in a day. Not unknown but lots of earliest snow, daily low and daily lowest high records set in Us and Canada last week thanks to cold plunge from the jetstream. At 3.30 it is a warm 80F on my patio with a brief burst of summer that looks set to run to midweek. Not showing any sign of rain on wunderground 10 day ahead and it has been a while since we had some. Could do with a freshen up again.Lots of hawthorn berries. The rail accident in Scotland is being put down to climate change by Network Rail although commenters are suggesting that is just a cover up for poor maintenance. On 14 Sep 2020, claude grayson wrote: just had a look at canadas temps and didnt realize how cold they are no wonder they say the ave temp is negative. highest temp round hudson bay is only 6. highest temp round lake superior is a hi of 4 makes the rest of us look very warm. if last winter set 600+ new records for cold what does this have in store..what does your crystal ball say Piers??colder or warmer On 13 Sep 2020, Paddy, Aberdeen South, sub, 130m elevation wrote: 14˚C at 7.30, cloudy but mild & windy from the SW, went towards the Angus glens for a picnic, the hills shrouded in drizzly rain that looked like clouds descended to earth, bright sunshine back at home with a max temp of 22˚, so enjoyable to have a last fling of summer, still windy at 8.30pm and still 16˚. We’ve missed all the rain that fell in the West in the last couple of days. On 12 Sep 2020, Paddy, Aberdeen South, sub, 130m elevation wrote: 8˚C at 7.30, very sunny but very windy from the W for most of the day, max temp 17˚, so we could have lunch outside again - not bad for this time of year - , clouding over by 4pm and feeling much cooler & autumnal, 11˚ by 8.30pm. Swallows now gathering big time, preparing to leave. On 11 Sep 2020, Paddy, Aberdeen South, sub, 130m elevation wrote: 11˚C at 7.30, feeling cold in the strong & often gusty SW’ly wind, fairly cloudy during the morning but then brightening up considerably in the afternoon and turning much milder with a max temp of 19˚, so much so that we could even sit outside for our 5 o’clock cuppa, wind abating by evening, 12˚ at 8pm. On 10 Sep 2020, Paddy, Aberdeen South, sub, 130m elevation wrote: 6˚c at 7.30, that felt cold & there was talk of frost in the Highlands on the radio forecast, sunny start with a stiff SW’ly wind without any warmth, clouding over by 9 and staying that way all day, max temp 16˚, down to 11˚ by 8pm. We saw our first geese two days ago, a sure sign of autumn, and we won’t be seeing the swallows for much longer. Although we had four adults of the latter, there weren’t any young, that’s the second time this has happened in the 28 years we’ve been on this farm. On 09 Sep 2020, Paddy, Aberdeen South, sub, 130m elevation wrote: 9˚C at 7.30, bright and sunny with variable amounts of cloud throughout the day, pretty beefy W’ly wind with occasional strong gusts, nevertheless got to a max of 19˚ in sheltered parts, 9˚ by 8.30pm. On 09 Sep 2020, claude grayson wrote: Grerry when i did obs for the met down here they said there were 3 super computers around the world and all our info went direct to them the moment we finished our reportand they pressed the send button .in return they got the latest forecast from each comp.when all 3 said the same our forcast was accurate but when all 3 gave a different one the local guys had to chose which to go with and often got the wrong one. i guess now there are more super comps .we have our own one now so hence the many wrong forecasts..one older forecaster said the new young guys dont like to put their heads out the window to check if what they say is whats out there. On 08 Sep 2020, Paddy, Aberdeen South, sub, 130m elevation wrote: 12˚C at 7.30, cloudy with a fresh but not cold SW’ly wind, sun coming through by 8.30, giving us a breezy but warm day with a max temp of 23˚again, cloudy evening but still a balmy 18˚ at 9.30pm, haven’t seen that very often this year. On 08 Sep 2020, Gerry 164ft Surrey-Kent border wrote: Perfectly reasonable to post about Piers being arrested on this part as it is relevant to production of forecasts. Also good to link to Peter's good if scary piece in the MoS. I have been using ventusky for ages as it allows you access to 3 models. You can't help but laugh at how different they are at times given we are always told the science is settled so why do the models differ. There have been 2 separate papers on models and their inaccuracy and how with CIMP6 they will be even worse. The top comment was why with settled science were there FORTYEIGHT models. Lol. On 08 Sep 2020, Sou'wester (sub, Devon/Cornwall border) wrote: Just checked to see whether the September forecast was loaded, and the list showed a link. However, when I clicked it, it took me to the July forecast. Please could this be fixed asap? On 07 Sep 2020, Paddy, Aberdeen South, sub, 130m elevation wrote: 11˚C at 7.30, cloudy with a fresh SW’ly wind and a good few showers until late morning, some heavy. Warming up by midday, sun coming out and getting much warmer towards 4pm when we had 23˚, quite a feat for this time of year and after the cold August we had, spectacular cloudy evening skies with the setting sun, still 16˚ at 8.30pm. On 07 Sep 2020, M Lewis wrote: There was a heartwarming article about Piers arrest and WA in yesterday's Mail on Sunday by Peter Hitchens. https://www.dailymail.co.uk/debate/article-8701699/PETER-HITCHENS-Protest-against-new-State-Fear-banned.html Make no mistake, the UK is heading towards an Authoritarian Dictatorship ruled by nodding donkeys and fools. Pray that the wheels come of this Government and the engine blows up in the next few weeks, before the onset of Winter for all our sakes! On 07 Sep 2020, Mark Hall wrote: Craig, thanks for update on Piers. This must explain why the September forecast is still due, seven days in. But don't forget your previous admonishments. This is the weather blog and political comments should really go on the other parallel blog. On 07 Sep 2020, Paul (sub) SE UK wrote: This will sound like a shill post, LOL, but I stumbled on this on another site - possible a BBC article? - and I thought it was awesome in terms of weather visualisations! It seems to be using the different models and covers the whole globe, with decent graphics to boot - if someone can check it out and let me know if it's a decent site for referencing, that would be very kind, thank you :-) >>>> https://www.ventusky.com On 06 Sep 2020, @CraigM350, Sub Berks 51N wrote: Piers was arrested yesterday. This is his statement after being held for nearly 24hrs in police custody === https://weatheraction.wordpress.com/2020/09/06/piers-corbyn-on-his-arrest-our-movement-we-can-win-istandwithpierscorbyn/ === I've not linked to the YouTube video but have it hosted on WordPress and on Gab as the censorship by Big Tech is ramping up and many things will disappear over the coming months. The Cliemate crap we've been fighting for so long was just the warm up act. "Authoritarianism is a form of government characterized by strong central power and limited political freedoms" On 06 Sep 2020, Paddy, Aberdeen South, sub, 130m elevation wrote: 7˚C at 7.30, sunny with a cool W’ly breeze which turned into the S by evening, intermittent cloud cover but still a fairly sunny if cool day with a max temp of 17˚, cooler evening with 10˚ at 8.30pm. On 06 Sep 2020, Fred wrote: Subscriber Get the autumn forecasts and the winter is one to get too....GSM conditions are likely to be prevalent. I enjoyed the read, however I cannot now access them as they have been removed. I spoke to Piers and I await their re-instatement. On 05 Sep 2020, Paddy, Aberdeen South, sub, 130m elevation wrote: 9˚C at 7.30, very sunny start until around 9, with a cool & sometimes gusty NW’ly wind, cloud moving in & bringing occasional showers mainly inland but with warm sunny spells in between and a max temp of 16˚, wind dying down by evening, 10˚ by 9pm. On 04 Sep 2020, Paddy, Aberdeen South, sub, 130m elevation wrote: 10˚C at 7.30, sunny from the word go, albeit with big clouds and the odd shower here and there, strong & cool SW’ly wind that turned more into the W later, max temp 19˚ but always colder when the sun was hiding, calmer by 8.30pm, 11˚, definitely autumnal. On 03 Sep 2020, Paddy, Aberdeen South, sub, 130m elevation wrote: 11˚C at 7.30, quite sunny with a fresh SW’ly wind which blew all day, very sunny & warm at times with a max temp of 22˚ but the wind always gave a cool edge when the sun disappeared momentarily behind the clouds, lovely clear evening, 10˚ at 9pm. Venus in SE and Mars in S visible early in the morning. On 02 Sep 2020, Paddy, Aberdeen South, sub, 130m elevation wrote: 13˚C at 7.30, cloudy with a strengthening and cool S’ly wind, some rain during the middle of the day, no more than 16˚ max, some spectacularly illuminated evening skies, 13˚ at 9pm. On 02 Sep 2020, claude grayson wrote: Paul it comes up on a bar at the bottom of te screen saying which we are using and it used to say bunnythorpe the closest,or newbury also close by now it is only linton the furthest from us by at least double distance. and we are on copper cable,so no need to go over the river at all. weather wise we are getting very little in the news unless it can be linked to gw/cc everything is covid /or scandal.the media are a sick bunch of zombie puppets. we got our snow last nite up the high country and more will come laterby the look of it probly next week or early the following one. isnt spring governd by the sun not some govt wally .someone ought to tellthe media.and nature that spring begins in sept not aug.for us down here.. On 02 Sep 2020, Gerry Surrey-Kent border 164ft wrote: A much warmer day yesterday than the weekend. Paddy - my house temp is about 2C above the CH turn on temp so not quite cold enough for a fire. Looks like there could be another Arctic blast in a week or so which might see the fire lit. Rhys - did well on raspberries, plums, damsons. Got my first quinces and there are lots of medlars coming. Blackberries got fried by the heatwave and might give a second crop. Apples are really small and patchy. Frost damage I think. My friends started Whatsapping about Arctic ice melt. I see now it was the annual ice melt lies from the WMO which Paul Homewood has thoroughly debunked using official stats from NIDC, DMI and HadCRUT4. On 02 Sep 2020, Helen (Ireland, sub) wrote: @Fred - yes, I was wondering about that myself. I noticed my Autumn and Winter forecasts, which I purchased earlier in August, had disappeared last week. The 30 day is still there. I e-mailed Piers but no response yet - I guess he's got a lot on his plate just now. On 02 Sep 2020, Paul (sub) SE UK wrote: Claude -- what program do you use to analyse where your web traffic / emails travels through? On 01 Sep 2020, Dean Powell wrote: Had to scrape frost off the car early this morning! This is the first air frost with a min of 0C here in Glenlivet, Banffshire. This follows two ground frosts a week or so ago. On 01 Sep 2020, Paddy, Aberdeen South, sub, 130m elevation wrote: 8˚C at 7.30, very sunny morning with a fresh SW’ly breeze, having lunch outside like yesterday, max temp 19˚, but by 1pm clouds moved in from the west and it got rapidly cooler for a while until the sun appeared again, wind moving into the S, feeling colder by evening, 12˚ at 8.30pm. == Rhys, no matter how hard we try and learn from experience, there is always one or two crops that fail in any year. This year our cucumbers in the tunnel were very mediocre whereas the tomatoes went mad, grapes also looking good, provided we get a reasonably warm autumn. On 01 Sep 2020, claude grayson wrote: you wont hear a squeek out of anyone but for those who care to look at NASA ozone watch you will see a hole just as massive as any before covering the whole of antarctica and a lot more. and under the yelloy brown smudge around it is nz and we are getting snow ,yesterday down sth and today more and some up nth..isaw ablog on rnz news re how to survive more snow and ice in globalwarming .they are such idiots they dug themselves such a deep hole theres no way out and they know it.so jhave to resort to dropping hints it might get colder..for some of you you may know your being monitored..i certainly am as now all my traffic is routed via linton which just so happens to be the army base .sad tate we live in ,must have ruffled a few feathers. On 01 Sep 2020, Fred wrote: Anyone else lost their forecasts? Mine have disappeared..... On 01 Sep 2020, Rhys Jaggar wrote: Paul We have to have bad harvests some years. Just like everywhere on earth does. It's just the nature of climate variability. This year was awful for me for spring turnips (too dry, too hot), brilliant for spring radish and beetroot. It was too hot this year for good runner beans, but we had brilliant squash and soil-grown tomatoes. We have had magnificent fruit from cherry, apple and raspberry. The August rain means the fennel and winter radish will be amazing, as will be the chicory and endive. I am not sure what it will have done to the grapes on the vine I inherited at the allotment. The volume of crop was huge before the rains, but I've not examined them since. All the last six years I have had a few crops doing really badly, several doing really well and quite a few eminently satisfactory. Maybe a bad year for wheat means a good year for other things? And maybe we should not put all our eggs in the wheat basket?? On 01 Sep 2020, geoffrey hood wrote: Solar Wind over 600, That's going to wind a few things up On 31 Aug 2020, Paddy, Aberdeen South, sub, 130m elevation wrote: 8˚C at 7.30, a bit cloudy to begin with but then we had a very sunny and relatively warm day, 18˚ max, though the fresh S’ly wind was quite cool, clouding up again by evening, 10˚ by 10pm. == Gerry, we’ve had our stove lit almost every night during most of August, even had to put on the CH one night in order to get the washing for our Airbnbs dried. On 31 Aug 2020, Gerry Surrey-Kent border 164ft wrote: Paddy - there was some hay cutting back in July but there were 2 tractors coming past my house for about 3 days pulling trailers loaded with round hay bales. I was tempted to follow them to see where they were taking them to and from. Silage cutting was late here as the dry spell delayed it into early June. I think it might not be the coldest August Bank Holiday evah but then they never seem to put the same effort in for finding a record low as they do when desperate for a high to keep the scam going. The record lowest August temperature was also coming into play up in Scotland - any news if you made it guys? We had a fair bit of sun yesterday and that plays a big part in keeping my house warm. I didn't need to light the fire so if it is OK tonight I won't have lit my first ever fire in August - always next year and those to come. On 30 Aug 2020, Paddy, Aberdeen South, sub, 130m elevation wrote: 7˚C at 7.30, quite still with the faintest N’ly breeze, quite sunny for much of the day with a max temp of 16˚ but a cool feel overall, 10˚ at 8.30pm, according to Vimtomet we should be getting warmth from Thursday onwards. On 29 Aug 2020, Paddy, Aberdeen South, sub, 130m elevation wrote: 9˚C at 7.30, sunny but with a strong cold N’ly wind which only abated late evening, the day was a mixture of sunshine and cloudy spells with a max temp of 15˚, occasional short drizzle and overall a cold day for the time of year, the dog days of August haha, 9˚ by 10pm. On 28 Aug 2020, Paddy, Aberdeen South, sub, 130m elevation wrote: 10˚C at 7.30, cloudy with a strong NE’ly wind, sun making an appearance in between the clouds, nice and warm in shelter from the wind, max temp 15˚, sunny until 5pm then clouding over again, drizzle during the evening, wind turning more N’ly, 10˚ at 9pm. == Gerry, no hay in any significant quantity has been made up here, too wet, many farmers have gone into baled silage big time for many years now, more reliable. On 28 Aug 2020, Gerry 164ft Surrey-Kent border wrote: Weather seems to be set for autumn already so good thing my chimney was swept this week. Guardian has forecast coldest August BH on record - somebody will need to be sent for re-education for allowing that through. After their bubbling joy at cycle 25 sunspots it has all gone quiet again and the spotless days are building up again. Farmers are not stupid unlike BBC environment correspondents as when it became hard to plant wheat they went for spring barley instead and crop yields for barley are up. In my area a local farmer was struggling with the regular rainfall keeping to fields too wet to plant. He had the seed and said that by waiting until spring he would have to drill more seed to counter for reduced germination. Wheat crop looked as normal round here and all harvested along with lots of hay earlier in the month. On 27 Aug 2020, Paddy, Aberdeen South, sub, 130m elevation wrote: 11˚C at 7.30, overcast with a cool E-NE’ly wind, no sun at all, max temp 14˚, back down to 11˚ by 9pm. What’s the difference between winter and summer in Scotland? In summer, the rain is a bit warmer. On 26 Aug 2020, Paddy, Aberdeen South, sub, 130m elevation wrote: 11˚C at 7.30, overcast for most of the day in a cool NW’ly breeze, occasional glimpses of light, max temp 16˚ and no rain, bliss, back to 11˚ by 9pm. On 26 Aug 2020, Paul (sub) SE UK wrote: UK looking at the 'worst wheat harvest in 40 years' -- https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-53921121 -- which seems to accord with the reports on electroverse about crops of grapes for wine in Italy and other places being destroyed this year by frost. ///// Perhaps we better get some of these 'Direct Air Capture' machines to suck CO2 from the air - there's just the small issue that they would use "115% of current global natural gas consumption." and "water for DAC is also a significant cost by 2050, with the machines using 35% of the water currently used in global electricity production."... LOL --https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-53891414 ///// Anyway, did I read somewhere that July was set to be one of the coolest on record? I can't find any mention of it on the BBC, strangely... On 25 Aug 2020, Paddy, Aberdeen South, sub, 130m elevation wrote: 12˚C at 7.30 and all day, overcast with a strong SE’ly wind, rain starting around 9 and not letting up at all, raining even now at 10pm, wind having turned into the NE. It was one of these days when you can’t quite figure out what season it is. On 25 Aug 2020, claude grayson wrote: more on the 03 hole .i looked up a science text from a paper i studied in 2001 and compared the hole from way back and the hole is just as large as then so whos giving out the porkies that its healing, certainly doesnt seem to be in the southern hemi.Maybe it is in the Nth as you guys have still got some yellow/green around back to the cold down here for the week not much snow forcast just single dig hi s.till maybe later in week when a second front lines us up.always got 50+mm of snow right in the middle of lambing .natures culling service.. On 24 Aug 2020, Paddy, Aberdeen South, sub, 130m elevation wrote: 9˚C at 7.30, light and cool N’ly breeze, talk of frost in some Highland glenss on the radio, a mostly sunny day with a max temp of 19˚, wind turning into the S by mid afternoon but still cool, cloudy evening, dry all day, 11˚ at 8.30pm. More heavy rain on the way for tomorrow. On 24 Aug 2020, claude grayson wrote: wow for those who bother looking at the nasa ozone watch, site today you would have seen more science lies .they say the hole is smaller .its the biggestive seen and not only big but so depleted,there are shade of purple which is down to less than 100ppm of o3 and a hole is 220ppm what more lies are they telling us .sometimes wonder if there aint some .....in the background screwing the world big time.for what?and science is helping by lying to hide the reality. On 23 Aug 2020, Paddy, Aberdeen South, sub, 130m elevation wrote: 11˚C at 7.30, sunny with a cool NW’ly breeze which later turned into the N, so max temp only got to 18˚, clouding over by mid afternoon, short period of rain early evening, 11˚ by 9pm. And now you may kiss not the bride but the summer goodbye :-( On 22 Aug 2020, Paddy, Aberdeen South, sub, 130m elevation wrote: 14˚C at 7.30, cloudy but dry, though showers started up soon enough and went on for most of the morning, dryish afternoon, max temp 18˚, not much sun, showers in the evening, 13˚ at 9.30pm. == Rhys, yes veg growth has been phenomenal this year, our Brussels witloof chicory is huge, winter salads assured, about to sow first break of corn salad. Despite the recent frequent rain we’ve had decent temps, so nothing has gone into premature autumn. On 22 Aug 2020, Rhys Jaggar wrote: The effect of 5 inches of rain in August: 1. Leeks double their girth in one week. I jest not, it happened both at home and at the allotment, so it is a real phenomenon. 2. Chicory, endive and radicchio double in size in 5 days with rainfall like this. Clearly crops for rainy parts of the UK. 3. Barely any damage to any outdoor tomato plants - with healthy soil, blight does not seem to be a problem. 4. Barren brown fields near allotment site turned almost magically into fertile feeding ground for horses in livery. 4. On 21 Aug 2020, Paddy, Aberdeen South, sub, 130m elevation wrote: 14˚C at 7.30, grey and damp with a fresh and strengthening SW’ly wind, two pulses of rain during the morning, the second one heavy at times, then brilliant sunshine and a max temp of 20˚, interspersed with showers, sunny end to the day, 13˚ at 10.30pm. On 20 Aug 2020, Paddy, Aberdeen South, sub, 130m elevation wrote: 14˚c at 7.30, heavy burst of rain before that but then sunny & warm all day with a max temp of 24˚, summer has returned for the time being. Very windy on the west coast, a moderately fresh S’ly wind here, one shower in mid afternoon, glorious end to the day, 15˚ at 9pm. On 19 Aug 2020, Paddy, Aberdeen South, sub, 130m elevation wrote: 15˚C at 7.30, another dull grey start, almost completely still though the SE’ly sea breeze started around 9, brightening up by midday, properly sunny and warm afternoon, first time since last Wednesday, max temp 21˚ but feeling really hot by 4pm, after which clouds arrived from the W and we had a cool and foggy end to the day, 15˚ at 9pm. On 18 Aug 2020, Paddy, Aberdeen South, sub, 130m elevation wrote: 15˚C at 7.30, very foggy & still, with only a light S’ly breeze getting up later, max temp 18˚, so not cold but just very damp with only occasional relief from fog to just ordinary greyness, 5th day of that kind of weather and more coming before we’ll see the sun again, 15˚ at 9pm. On 17 Aug 2020, Rhys Jaggar wrote: 90mm of rain the past 3 days breaks the summer drought and allows me to get carrots out of the clay soil! The drop in temperatures matched by the first runner beans ready to harvest, having been harvesting lots of French climbing beans during the heatwave. Apples much earlier than normal, majority of the main tree already harvested. On 17 Aug 2020, Paddy, Aberdeen South, sub, 130m elevation wrote: 13˚C at 7.30, overcast with intermittent fog and drizzle with a light NE’ly wind which kept going all day. Cool feel but we still had a max of 19˚, drizzle by evening again, 14˚ at 8.30. On 17 Aug 2020, M Lewis wrote: Please can WA advise when it will publish the Britain and Ireland September 45 day forecast. The Subscribers webpage states it was due on 15 August. It is now the 17 August! Many thanks. On 16 Aug 2020, Paddy, Aberdeen South, sub, 130m elevation wrote: 13˚C at 7.30, overcast & grey with a light S’ly breeze turning into the E later, no sunshine at all today but still getting to 19˚ max, a soupçon of blue overhead in the evening but then back to dull, 13˚ at 10pm. On 16 Aug 2020, claude grayson wrote: interesting blurb on RNZ News how in 1859 the sun coughed and fried all the worlds electronics,sparks were seen along telephone wires and the poles caught fire,and they were saying that if it happened now we will lose all our electric stuff ALL of itand we cant do much about it.always makes me wonder ,as a retired builder what will happen to all our tin roofed buildings with tarpaper under the iron .guess we wont be useing the net for awhile either.. 3rd frost in a row today -1.6 at o600,grass -2.6 On 15 Aug 2020, Paddy, Aberdeen South, sub, 130m elevation wrote: 14˚C at 7.30, overcast & grey until midday when we had a few hours of veiled sunshine and a max temp of 20˚, all in a light SE’ly wind, greying up again by end of afternoon, 14˚ at 9pm. A typical August day for us (sigh)… On 14 Aug 2020, Paddy, Aberdeen South, sub, 130m elevation wrote: 12˚C at 7.30, overcast & cool with a N’ly breeze, gradually moving into the E & SE during the day, yet still feeling close and sweaty at the slightest exertion, max temp 19˚, a hint of blue sky above the clouds by early evening but not for long, 14˚ at 9pm. On 14 Aug 2020, claude grayson wrote: has anyone seen the CO2 blanket weve lost ours down here .we are at 0700 down to -3.3 air temp ,grass -4.3.hardest frost all year this CO2 thing just doesnt seem to work at night only in daylight and only works best on calm clear days so has anyone asked the metboys why? looks like we are going to get at least two frosts this spell maybe more . On 13 Aug 2020, Paddy, Aberdeen South, sub, 130m elevation wrote: 15˚C at 7.30, overcast with a cool N’ly breeze, we had a bit of sunshine around the middle of the day and got a max temp of 21˚, but in the afternoon the wind got cooler and by evening a coat was mandatory for taking the dog out, 15˚ at 9pm. On 13 Aug 2020, Sou'wester (sub, Devon/Cornwall border) wrote: Paul, you are quite correct about the BBC. I haven't been reporting what it has been like down here in deepest Devon, but it has been nowhere near the 34C they are claiming for the whole of the UK. They are using the London readings from Heathrow possibly, with its own hotter microclimate, methinks, and making it appear that those temps apply to everybody else. It hasn't been hotter than 81F (29C?) down here over the last six days, though it has felt terribly sticky with the humidity and lack of wind. And this from my thermometer inside a heat trap, the metal shipping container that is my office! On 12 Aug 2020, Paul (Sub) SE UK wrote: Gerry - I think the BBC are just going to make up whatever metrics they can to make it sound hotter than it is - I refer to today's news that "it's the first six days in a row over 34 degrees since 1961"... What sort of random data metric is that? lol ///// https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-53756412 ///// And was it global warming in 1961? Hmmmm.... On 12 Aug 2020, Paddy, Aberdeen South, sub, 130m elevation wrote: Humungus thunderstorm with a powerful N’ly wind this morning around 6am which lasted for a good 3 hours, of the kind that we get about every 15 years or so, by the time I got outside at 9.15, my usual 7.30 reading would have meant an immediate total soaking, it was already 18˚ and it stayed sunny for the rest of the day with a sweltering 27˚ max out of the cool breeze, some mist by evening for a time, still 17˚ by 9pm. We had a river running past our veg tunnel, never seen anything quite like it, awful train derailment SW of Stonehaven, probably due to a landslip. On 11 Aug 2020, Paddy, Aberdeen South, sub, 130m elevation wrote: 13˚C at 7.30, very foggy with a NE’ly breeze that eventually turned into the E & SE, sun coming out around 9 and warming the air up to 23˚, very humid & sticky, cloudy again in the afternoon with a short shower, foggy again by evening, 17˚ at 9pm. On 11 Aug 2020, Ron Greer wrote: Thunder plouts here today, with quite a bit of local flooding. Just hope the Rest and be Thankful area has hadn't the after the recent landslides. On 11 Aug 2020, Gerry Surrey-Kent border 164ft wrote: A big blob of rain passed to the east this morning with some grey cloud visible in a cloudy start to the day. Noon and it is blue sky and nothing on the radar as yet but storms can grow from nothing. The shaded patio has already reached 88F - touched 94F yesterday. I don't know if evening cloud cover is to blame but the nights are not cooling as much here in the country of late. I was surprised it has taken 17 years to get a hot August day - surely it is ever on upwards with the heat although metO figures show current decade is cooler then previous but that won't be said on the BBC or even discussed in their own report. Hoping that storms forecasts are right - at some point - so pumped a lot of stored water to the plants last night. A wilting globosa looks much better this morning. On 10 Aug 2020, Paddy, Aberdeen South, sub, 130m elevation wrote: 14˚C at 7.30, overcast, ESE’ly breeze, there was a thunderclap early on but nothing more, grey all morning but brightening up in the afternoon with a max temp of 22˚, feeling warm, even muggy, 15˚ at 9pm. On 10 Aug 2020, Marie wrote: Enormous eruption of the Sinabung vulcano today. Not good. LIA is here as we all know, let's hope it won't erupt in an even bigger way. On 09 Aug 2020, Paddy, Aberdeen South, sub, 130m elevation wrote: 11˚C at 7.30, misty until 9, SE’ly sea breeze all day, giving us a max temp of only 21˚, still nice, sunnier further inland, cloud rolling in off the sea after 6pm leaving us with a grey evening and 14˚ at 8.30pm. No thunderstorms tomorrow anymore but Tue/Wed - maybe, and that’s final. On 08 Aug 2020, Paddy, Aberdeen South, sub, 130m elevation wrote: 11˚C at 7.30, sunny & clear, warming up quickly to 20˚ by 9 but then the SE’ly sea breeze got up, cooling us nicely, brilliant sunshine all day, max temp 26˚ and even higher in shelter, but as is usual in August under HP, evenings can cool down quite markedly and at the end of the month we can sometimes get the first grass frost, 14˚ at 9pm. The week ahead looks dry, though according to the Vimtobeeb we will have thunderstorms, we’ll see. On 08 Aug 2020, Paul (sub) SE UK wrote: I noticed the BBC say today on the lunchtime weather that it looks like thunderstorms are likely next week, with the outlook on the website saying "Monday will see the chance of sharp showers across the Northern Ireland, Wales and southwest and northern UK. Plenty of sunshine elsewhere. Tuesday will see sunny spells with sharp showers and risk of thunder in western areas spreading across the country Tuesday night. Wednesday will see areas of cloud, but also sunny spells with sharp showers continuing for Southeast regions." ( https://www.bbc.co.uk/weather ) which matches Piers' predictions for that week. Looks like it's going to be a month of highly contrasting weather overall! /////// I also noticed that BBC are reporting 'the hottest August temperature for 17 years' ( https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-53694492 ) but have, as usual, failed to report the records lows that Electroverse is reporting... *rolls eyes*. At least coronavirus gave us a break from the 'climate change' nonsense! On 07 Aug 2020, Paddy, Aberdeen South, sub, 130m elevation wrote: 14˚C at 7.30, light S’ly breeze which later turned into a fresh wind that kept temps down somewhat but we still had a max of 24˚, intermittently cloudy but still warm, 17˚ at 9pm. On 07 Aug 2020, Peterg wrote: This is a request for CraigM378 - you had a page on your website about how the sunspots effect the human body, especially the brain and subsequent behaviour patterns. Unfortunately it seems to have disappeared. I would be grateful if you could provide this link to me. Many thanks On 06 Aug 2020, Paddy, Aberdeen South, sub, 130m elevation wrote: 14˚C at 7.30, sunny & calm until about 9, then SE’ly wind all day, getting stronger in the afternoon, taking the edge off what would otherwise have been a scorcher, still got to 26˚ though out of the wind, sunshine throughout, 16˚ at 8.30pm. == Rhys, your garden sounds great, we can’t complain either but there are always one or two crops that don’t do so well, we have to grow our carrots in the tunnel as we have the dreaded fly, wishing for a real cold winter to knock off all the surviving larvae. Sarpo Mira is a cracking tattie, immune to blight like I am to the corblimey virus, never took off commercially because of the uneven size of tubers. Charlotte is our favourite but is susceptible to blight. On 06 Aug 2020, Gerry 164ft Surrey-Kent border wrote: Yesterday could best be described as windy. So yet another one to add to the number of such days this summer. Wunderground now has tomorrow peaking at 96F and now shows thunderstorms on Monday that were not on the forecast early this morning. The warmth is showing lasting until Thursday now. Looks likely that the MetO fake news team will be hard at work over the next few days. I note the undercurrent of glee on Spaceweather at the little burst of cycle 25 sunspots. Is there anything in that we see more sunspots in the summer? We were going a month at a time before. Also note that it has been just one spot at a time which must also play a part. On 06 Aug 2020, Rhys Jaggar wrote: The climate chaos is causing me to produce a monster crop of winter squash this summer. Already in the first week of August my Red Kuri and Crown Prince squash fruit are swelling massively, with 2 dozen fruit of really good size already present on 12sqm of ground. Other plants which love the chaos include Artemisia, Tanacetum Vulgare, Anthyllis Vulneraria, Catnip, Borage, Sweet Alyssum, Spanish Sage, Phacelia, late plantings of Desiree and Sarpo Mira potatoes, beetroot, fennel, soil-planted tomatoes, parsnips and kohlrabi. My 1sqm experiment to try and see how much food I can grow has already yielded 17lb (radish and beetroot after topping and tailing: 27lb including the leaves) with spring onions now growing away well. Plan is for Valdor Lettuce as a fourth crop being transplanted mid September. These pesky vegetables really ought to keel over and die to obey the climate experts..... On 05 Aug 2020, Paddy, Aberdeen South, sub, 130m elevation wrote: 13˚C at 7.30 and quite sunny for most of the morning, light S’ly breeze at first but strengthening later, max temp 24˚ around midday, clouds moving in early afternoon, light shower by 4pm, cloudy for the rest of the day, 16˚ at 9pm. On 04 Aug 2020, Paddy, Aberdeen South, sub, 130m elevation wrote: 10˚C at 7.30, grey and dry with a strengthening S’ly wind, feeling cold, rain starting at 10 and continuing all day until 8pm, max daytime temp 14˚ but by 9pm it had jumped to a balmy 16˚. On 04 Aug 2020, claude grayson wrote: just looked at the latest sunspot pics on soho and wonder if a comet or other has impacted on farside the spots vis are almost too evenly spaced for ordinary spots too similar to jupiters lot from shewmaker levi??? On 04 Aug 2020, Gerry 164ft Surrey-Kent border wrote: Paddy - so you must have had there perfect conditions for the cherry plums this year. When I moved here in March 2015 it was quite warm so for once there may have been pollinators on the wing when there was blossom. Every other year the blossom has been too early. This year it might have been hit by the frosts especially the one in May. A brrezy day today making it quite pleasant. Friday is due to hit 90 degrees again although I am sure that Wunderground 10 day ahead had a second 90 day but that has gone now and thunderstorms appeared for the middle of next week. On 03 Aug 2020, Paddy, Aberdeen South, sub, 130m elevation wrote: 9˚C at 7.30, sunny morning with temp reaching 20˚ by early afternoon, light SW’ly breeze, cloud moving in more seriously by 2pm and into the evening, 14˚ at 9pm. More rain tomorrow but warm at least. On 02 Aug 2020, Paddy, Aberdeen South, sub, 130m elevation wrote: 13˚C at 7.30, rain before that, everything very wet from overnight rain, a bit of sunshine to begin with creating the day’s max temp of 20˚ early on, but showers started up late morning and kept going off & on for the rest of the day, we just managed to get a decent walk in between the heaviest downpours, half dry evening, 12˚ by 9pm. == Gerry: further to our previous conversation, our cherry plums, rather surprisingly, this year have quite a bit of fruit on them, maybe the second or third time since we planted them years ago. Not that I mind the infrequent harvest, their leaf and flower buds nourish the bullfinches in the spring. On 02 Aug 2020, claude grayson wrote: does it follow that as the earth cools and less heat penetrates that the cycles of weather will not be dragged towards the equator.certainly seems so down here .the cold stuff just aint coming north as much so the north island isnt getting the rain or the snow like in the 80s,and farmers are noticing it and wondering how to plan for even less rain. On 02 Aug 2020, Gerry Surrey-Kent border 164ft wrote: Craig mentions a blowy summer. I was thinking the same as the numbers of quite gusty days there have been seem more like the other seasons. Also played a part in making it much cooler outside than it would have been with no wind such as last Friday where we had one of our warmest days of the year. In commenting on some of the latest climate lies, Paul Homewood shows a table of average temperature for this decade and the last decade sourced from the MetO and we have cooled. Surely the alarmists tell us it is ever on upwards? How can we have cooled? On 01 Aug 2020, Paddy, Aberdeen South, sub, 130m elevation wrote: 15C at 7.30, brilliant sunshine until 9, after that cloud moved in and kept stopping and starting throughout the day, max temp 20˚ early on but then dropping back in the rain, 13˚ by 9pm. Like I said, Jekyll & Hyde, one day summer, one day autumn. On 31 Jul 2020, Paddy, Aberdeen South, sub, 130m elevation wrote: 14˚c at 7.30, beautiful sunny morning albeit with a strengthening S’ly wind that kept temps at bay, max was just 22˚, after midday though, it started clouding over from the west, obscuring the sun somewhat, cloudy end to the day but still 16˚ at 9pm. On 30 Jul 2020, Paddy, Aberdeen South, sub, 130m elevation wrote: 8˚c overnight, 11 at 7.30, overcast & cool but no wind to begin with, this changed by afternoon when a strong S’ly got up and the sky got even darker, despite that we had a max of 19˚ for a few seconds but by 5pm the rain came on and is still going now at 10pm, 13˚ at 9pm. Apparently we’ll have a sunny and warm day tomorrow. On 30 Jul 2020, geoffrey hood wrote: never try to second guess the sun on what happens on the far side of the sun (unless you are Piers) ,2768 is a single Axx cycle 25 polarity spot but it does have signs of prevoius far side activity, but it is proper Cycle 25 sun spot, now what will that cycle bring us? On 29 Jul 2020, Paddy, Aberdeen South, sub, 130m elevation wrote: 11˚C at 7.30, still quite windy from the NW but slowly weakening, quite sunny at times with a max temp of 19˚ for a short while, cloud thickening by late afternoon and giving us a relatively cool evening with 14˚ at 9pm. On 28 Jul 2020, Paddy, Aberdeen South, sub, 130m elevation wrote: 11˚C at 7.30, very windy from the WNW but dry at least and sunny all day, with the wind strengthening, thus a max temp of only 15˚, glorious blue sky evening, 12˚ at 9pm. On 27 Jul 2020, Paddy, Aberdeen South, sub, 130m elevation wrote: 11˚C at 7.30, overcast and raining lightly in a S’ly breeze which gradually turned into the SE and then suddenly into the NW by late afternoon and strengthening, raining all day, sometimes quite heavily, max temp 14˚, down to 11˚ by 8pm. We seem to have Jekyll & Hyde weather at the moment, summery one day, autumnal the next & reload. On 26 Jul 2020, geoffrey hood wrote: cycle 25 sunspot 2768 showing on stera ahead, looks likley larger than 2767 On 26 Jul 2020, Paddy, Aberdeen South, sub, 130m elevation wrote: 14˚C at 7.30, cloudy with a light W’ly breeze carrying swathes of mist from further inland but then brightening up for the rest of the day, wind picking up creating a cooling effect on what would otherwise have been a scorcher, 24˚ max in the event, hardly any clouds in the afternoon and really hot out of the wind, still 16˚ at 9pm. == Craig, not often that happens! Of course, as I point out from time to time, the max temps I give are from a thermometer that is in a relatively sheltered spot, so they are never uniformly spread out over the whole farm, but still, we do occasionally get some crackers. On 26 Jul 2020, claude grayson wrote: last week we wondered if they were right with warm to mild temps for winter not below 5 and not above 13.then yestdy a balmy 16 hi then down to 0 or less before sun up.frost at 5am .anyone seen the co2 blanket to warm us up. you thinking blokes ,i was reading abt old sites like stonehenge and the thought occured ,were they all constructed after the last pole shift.almost every country has them ,so were they made to give direction and also show any subsequent shift.would have been a strange time to find nothing was where it was last nite or however long it took to move.some say a short time others long.the damage to some sites is emmense .others not so big.??? On 26 Jul 2020, @CraigM350, Sub Berks 51N wrote: Crickey Paddy, you've had better temps than we have here! We've had 19, 20, 21, 22, 24, 25, 23 & 21 with lows of 9, 7, 9, 12, 15, 15 & 13 which is a good indication of when we've been clear or cloudy. It's as a result been quite nice with only licks of humidity but mostly a refreshing breeze on most days. The most unusual occurrences the past few weeks have been; low overnight temps - including 3 ground frosts recorded at the main weather station, amount of cloud, low maxima (26 max whole month), lots of rain but mostly light so about half of average before today, however the main point of interest has been the strong winds. Can't recall such a blowy summer. Today at least had decent welcome rainfall throughout the day, although nothing like as interesting as Northampton where a tornado was filmed earlier. // Record heat reported in Svalbard today, nothing. said about the flip side of record cold in Scandi 🤔 They report an agenda, not news. No wonder #MediaScum trends On 25 Jul 2020, Paddy, Aberdeen South, sub, 130m elevation wrote: 14˚C at 7.30, overcast and wet from overnight rain, fresh S’ly wind but feeling mild, gradually brightening up so we decided to have a barbie on the beach about 4 miles south of us, it was glorious with 25˚ for the whole 3 hours we stayed there, but we did watch a cracking thunderstorm from afar, passing over Aberdeen into the N Sea, and as we got home it was lashing it down & continued all evening, really heavy just now at 9.30 but still 15˚. On 24 Jul 2020, Paddy, Aberdeen South, sub, 130m elevation wrote: 11˚C at 7.30, quite sunny, light NW’ly breeze at first which later changed into a fairly strong S’ly that kept temperatures down, out of this wind we had a max of 21˚ and it was pleasant enough to have lunch outside, clouding over towards evening, 14˚ at 9pm. More rain forecast for tomorrow, already waiting in the West Coast wings. On 23 Jul 2020, Paddy, Aberdeen South, sub, 130m elevation wrote: 14˚C at 7.30, S’ly breeze and still raining from overnight but then gradually brightening up to a sunny morning, still some showers though and getting up to a max of 24˚ in the afternoon, feeling positively balmy, quite cloudy by evening with the mild wind turning into the NW, still 16˚ by 9pm. On 23 Jul 2020, claude grayson wrote: so .so true Rhys,they have to use such language cos they know its crap and when its found out they can say ,we didnt say that we were saying the other. their problem is theyve lied so much that even now with all the conntary evidence they cant backtrack or theyll look even more stupid. very large hole they dug,one almost should feel sorry for them but i dont.silly science at its worst. On 22 Jul 2020, Paddy, Aberdeen South, sub, 130m elevation wrote: 11˚C at 7.30, overcast with a S’ly wind all day, rain starting after 8 and keeping going until after midday, 15˚ max, dry afternoon with occasional drizzle, clearing up somewhat by evening but fog rolling in off the sea after 9pm, 13˚ at 9.30pm. Ah yes, July… On 21 Jul 2020, Paddy, Aberdeen South, sub, 130m elevation wrote: 9˚C at 7.30, sunny & fresh with a light W’ly breeze, temperature slowly rising through the morning but only reaching 20˚ by midday, though enabling us to eat out in the sun. But by early afternoon the wind turned into the S and the showers started, not as heavy and frequent as yesterday but still a bit of a spoiler, dry and cloudy by evening, 13˚ at 9pm. == Ah yes, RON, I know that feeling but I haven’t given in to it just yet, still bravely pretending it is summer :-). You can actually feel it when the sun is out, it can get quite hot for a short period, though the underlying feel is cool and there is no denying that we are in the north. On 21 Jul 2020, Rhys Jaggar wrote: Claude Grayson - the word 'likely' is political code for 'absolutely hooey but we need to keep the pressure up on the sheeple'. The UK had months of 'extremely likely' with regard to the lies manufactured about Novichok, a purported nerve agent used by Russia in Salisbury. Now we have 'almost certainly' being used in a similar manner. Basically, legally they are not lying, even though everyone knows that they are lying through their teeth. On 21 Jul 2020, Ron Greer wrote: PADDY: today was the first morning I felt that 'high summer' was over and that we are now into late summer/pre autumn. Not logical. just a deep gut feeling and there's a time in late August in Scotland that you 'know' it's early autumn. On 21 Jul 2020, claude grayson wrote: climate change likey cause of extreme weather in northland says climate scientist ,,headlies tonite.get so tired of itbut no polititions will look at any other evidence.blind leading the blind On 20 Jul 2020, Paddy, Aberdeen South, sub, 130m elevation wrote: 12˚C at 7.30, light W’ly wind, sunny for about 3 hours and then the showers started off & on well into the evening, max temp 21˚ in a particularly sunny spell, down to 13˚ by 9.30. Everything smelling fresh though, especially the honeysuckle which is now in full bloom. We’ve had so much sunshine in April & May that we can take the present weather in our stride. On 19 Jul 2020, Paddy, Aberdeen South, sub, 130m elevation wrote: 7˚ overnight, 13 at 7.30, very sunny start with only a few wispy cirrus clouds and a coolish W’ly wind, warming up nicely towards midday with a max temp of 24˚ by early afternoon, though that started setting off showers and we had quite a few of them, including some heavy ones, which cooled everything down, 12˚ by 9pm and cloudy. Perhaps our summer happened yesterday. On 18 Jul 2020, Paddy, Aberdeen South, sub, 130m elevation wrote: 12˚C at 7.30, brilliantly sunny, cool W’ly wind which blew all day and kept a cap on the temperature, we nevertheless got to 24˚ max in the afternoon, but whenever the sound disappeared behind the clouds it felt perceptibly cooler, lovely sunny evening over a family & farm inhabitants barbecue, 13˚ at 10pm. On 18 Jul 2020, claude grayson wrote: had a dropor two of rain in some parts.Whangarei up N had 220mm from 7pm to 7am met reckon its a 1 in 500y event so will probly happen again soon just to mess with their figures .great way to end a drought ,all the rain you didnt get in one nite On 17 Jul 2020, Paddy, Aberdeen South, sub, 130m elevation wrote: 16˚C at 7.30, a lot of overnight rain, cloudy to start with but then warming and brightening up in a fresh S’ly wind, max temp 25˚ in the afternoon when the sun was really coming out, sunny end to the day, 17˚ at 9.30pm. On 16 Jul 2020, Paddy, Aberdeen South, sub, 130m elevation wrote: 14˚c at 7.30, cloudy, practically still and looking unpromising but when I came out of the supermarket at 10 it had turned very sunny and hot, we got a max temp of 27˚, nicely cooled by a S’ly wind which later turned into the W, cloudy again by evening but still 18˚ at 9pm. On 16 Jul 2020, claude grayson wrote: oh dear ,panic, there is or has been a so called heat wave in siberia,almost certainly due to human induced climate change,a new study has found. Another of those studies in an area that joe bloggs cant verify easily in the meantime we down here have a resident Low parked of the NW giving the Northern half of N .Is a good wash.flooding and road closures ,trees down from hi winds. no doubt caused by us too..the joys of modern science. On 15 Jul 2020, Paddy, Aberdeen South, sub, 130m elevation wrote: 12˚C at 7.30, a mostly cloudy but warm day with light winds from a mostly N’ly quarter, max temp 22˚, short shower after midday and a really beefy one at 6pm, 14˚ at 10pm. == RON: your guess is as good as mine what could be the ultimate cause of it; having said that, just yesterday I noticed to large old trees on our neighbour’s land that had practically no damage, whereas most of the ash that we planted 28 years ago is affected, many of them also produced a staggering number of seedlings around them this year. On 14 Jul 2020, Paddy, Aberdeen South, sub, 130m elevation wrote: 12˚C at 7.30, cool NW’ly breeze but still quite sunny in between the cloudy spells, max temp 20˚, dry, wind changing into the E in afternoon, 15˚ at 9.30pm. == Rhys, we had our first courgettes yesterday and will be harvesting first early tatties for a meal tomorrow, surprising that we seem to be on a par at least in these crops in our respective locations, your tomatoes are outside, I take it? Couldn’t get away with that here :-) On 14 Jul 2020, Ron Greer wrote: PADDY: Took a while to get here, but it's very obvious now with us. Several of us have noted precocious autumnal colours through a range of species, both in pots and free growing, especially noticeable in eastern North American species, but also in some European ones. No drought problems with us. Has it possibly anything to do with the quality of the sunlight ? On 14 Jul 2020, Rhys Jaggar wrote: Normal July weather for a few days now: max temperatures at or above the 20C mark, a few rain showers but nothing special. Onions are now swelling nicely, first courgettes to be harvested by the weekend, second early potatoes just showing signs of running out of puff, first tomatoes just harvested fruit trees have just had their summer snip. No climate chaos here, just a summer with normal variability around long-term means. On 13 Jul 2020, Paddy, Aberdeen South, sub, 130m elevation wrote: Returned from Nairn today, where we had a rather cool day on Saturday with intermittent showers and a not so warm W’ly win, warmer on Sunday with rain arriving only after 8pm, cloudy but warm on the drive home, the sun coming out late afternoon and giving us a max temp of 25˚C, still 16˚ at 9pm. == RON: I noticed that up north ash trees were much less affected by die-back, maybe it has not reached that part of the country yet and is just slowly creeping northwards? On 12 Jul 2020, claude grayson wrote: just looked at ElDorado weather site but dont tell too many that may/ june in us has seen less tornados than ever,or someone will have to dream up another lie as to why. winter is ticking along with forcasters busy trying to get the weather to do what they say but it doesnt always listen and just does what it wants. so today they forcast rain but were getting showers. oh well. On 10 Jul 2020, Paddy, Aberdeen South, sub, 130m elevation wrote: 11˚c at 7.30, light NW’ly wind for most of the day, sunshine to begin with but showers starting up soon enough & going all day, some of them very heavy, max temp 18˚, going down to a chilly 10˚ by 10pm though tomorrow is set to get warmer as we are away up north. On 10 Jul 2020, Steve Devine wrote: Funnily enough the 19.5 degrees is the sweet spot for sunspots, the Red Spot on Jupiter and the great storm on Neptune. David Wilcock covers this in his latest book "Awakening In The Dream". Very interesting. It's also the same latitude as Hawaii, one of the most active volcano regions in the world. On 10 Jul 2020, M Lewis wrote: Regarding Solar Cycles, in particular large cycles, please can Piers comment why the average solar latitude of recurring, peak "solar maximum" sunspot activity is located at 19.5 degrees north and south of the Sun's equator. Was the Russian scientist N.A.Kozyrev correct? On 09 Jul 2020, Paddy, Aberdeen South, sub, 130m elevation wrote: 12˚c at 7.30, cloudy with a light S’ly breeze, showers off & on all day, some of them pretty heavy, no sun but still a max temp of 18˚, summer is on hold, 12˚ at 8.30pm. On 09 Jul 2020, claude grayson wrote: the forecast snow became a dusting except on the mtns,but has been cold with temps here struggling to reach double didgits and a cold wind yesterday dropping windchill to near freezing all day,,,,the mets have to take the worst case senareo or they get hammered for not forecasting rough weather so they often seem wrong,but down here most of the experenced guys who knew the weather have gone and now we just got young ones who liketo do it all from the comfort of a aircon office. On 09 Jul 2020, Rhys Jaggar wrote: Best part of an inch of rain the past 36hrs here in NW London, bring the total for the month to 1.5 inches aka 40mm. The forecasters are saying warmer, sunnier days ahead from Sunday. If true, should be good for growing things. On 08 Jul 2020, Paddy, Aberdeen South, sub, 130m elevation wrote: 12˚C at 7.30, sunny until about 10 with a light but cool N’ly wind which soon after turned into the S, then mostly grey and cold with a max temp of only 16˚, a little sunshine by the end of the afternoon but disappearing again quickly, 12˚ at 8.30pm. More rain expected tomorrow, good job we managed to thoroughly weed our veg garden today. On 07 Jul 2020, Paddy, Aberdeen South, sub, 130m elevation wrote: 12˚C at 7.30, sunny start with a light NW’ly breeze which changed into the E in the afternoon, clouding over by 10, quite a few showers after that, especially in early afternoon, max temp 17˚ and staying cloudy for the rest of the day, 11˚ by 9pm. On 07 Jul 2020, claude grayson wrote: more snow forecast for today,above 600m,heavy in some higher parts..temps been up and down like yoyos.spring flowers well out in some micro climate areas. . Wiki says ozone traps UV C and uv B is the one that burns.and uv A just comes right in .so if you look at the Ozone maps of nasa there isnt much O3 out there which is probably why i could feel my arm burning while driving yesterday.,yet its the middle of winter.maybe weve stuffed the planet already and worrying about the lies of carbon is just to buy time for the elite to figure out where they are going to hide.and for how long. On 06 Jul 2020, Paddy, Aberdeen South, sub, 130m elevation wrote: 12˚C at 7.30, blustery NW’ly wind all day with some beefy gusts, showery morning with sunshine in between, sunnier & dry afternoon with a max temp of 19˚, still windy at 9pm with 13˚. Not exactly the hottest summer evah so far. Yes, Craig, could be one of these typical middling summers for us here too, not particularly warm but veg growth ending up good anyway, oh well… On 05 Jul 2020, @CraigM350, Sub Berks 51N wrote: It just touched 20C once in the past week and it has been really blowy, especially today feeling quite unseasonal. It's also rained most days but not an awful lot a few mm here and there. I've seen some very big branches down and on Twitter earlier Liam Dutton highlighted a tree that came down in South Ealing, London barely missing people. This time of year with the trees in full leaf they can be lethal. Does look to settle down in the South but no major heat 🔥. Could this be a pattern for a while with westerly wet flow, the south escaoing the worst, intermittent with brief heat as the lows pull up warmth? On 05 Jul 2020, Paddy, Aberdeen South, sub, 130m elevation wrote: 12˚C at 7.30, strong NW’ly wind with quite a lot of flat bottomed cloud streaming along on it but sunny intervals lengthening as the morning progressed, giving us a max temp of 19˚, thicker cloud cover by mid afternoon with occasional showers, lovely evening light though and 13˚ by 8.30pm. A typical July day for us, it often turns colder at this time when you would expect it to heat up. On 04 Jul 2020, Paddy, Aberdeen South, sub, 130m elevation wrote: 10˚C at 7.30, sunny start but then clouding over until mid afternoon when the sun came out and we had a pleasant 21˚, light breeze all day from a generally S’ly direction, cloudy again by evening but feeling mild with 15˚ at 9pm. On 04 Jul 2020, Gerry Surrey-Kent border 164ft wrote: A heady 64F with a gusty wind and a few spits of rain. Not quite beach weather in the hottest year evah! Not much of a day for finally getting a pint and sitting out in the pub garden. Fleece, woolly hat, mittens perhaps. Our weekly farm drinking restarts on Friday in a field - I can only hope it won't be like last night as the rain hammered down which wasn't on the Wunderground forecast during the day. Micro-climate makes a big difference but the spring sun doesn't seem to have reached my fruit. Raspberries have burst into ripeness and now being eaten by Blackbirds as the only berries that are ripe. On 03 Jul 2020, Paddy, Aberdeen South, sub, 130m elevation wrote: 10˚C at 7.30, S’ly breeze with light rain for most of the morning, the afternoon was much wetter with some prolonged heavy rain, max temp 14˚. By early evening the wind turned into the W and we had a couple of hour of late sunshine, 11˚ by 9pm. On 03 Jul 2020, claude grayson wrote: well we got the snow but havent seen any official figures just local obs.and some pics 50mm -200mm above 600m in Nth Is but no figs from Sth Is. temps here have been down to 0.8 and made real hard work trying to get up to 8deg by 1pm then slide down again.Winter. On 02 Jul 2020, Rhys Jaggar wrote: Finally, a week of normal British summer weather: just around 20-22C, some heavy but brief rain showers which finally means I do not have to do manic watering of the vegetables. I pulled the first carrot thinnings on 30th June, not precocious by expert standards, but about 2 weeks earlier than I normally manage here. The first courgette should be cut by the end of the weekend, less than 6 weeks after planting out the young plants. As for UHI, Gerry, our garden is quite sheltered and there is a microclimate which sees less frost than at my allotment site under 2 miles away. We have also had an incredible amount of sunshine this spring, which advanced all fruit much faster than normal - my thinning of my apples was complete by mid June, whereas early July is normally when I do my final thinning. On 02 Jul 2020, Paddy, Aberdeen South, sub, 130m elevation wrote: 9˚C at 7.30, cold NW’ly wind to begin with, turning S’ly by late morning and continuing cold, mostly cloudy with very occasional sunny spells, max temp 17˚, some light rain by evening, 11˚ at 9pm. On 01 Jul 2020, Paddy, Aberdeen South, sub, 130m elevation wrote: 2˚C at 7.30, cold N’ly wind blowing all day, cloudy and grey until late afternoon, max temp 16˚, late sunshine to glorious effect but that couldn’t hide the fact that it felt more like mid April - typical July weather for us, I would say, 11˚ at 9pm. On 30 Jun 2020, Paddy, Aberdeen South, sub, 130m elevation wrote: 13˚C at 7.30, a mostly cloudy day with some good sunny intervals, NW’ly wind but not to cold, max temp a respectable 22˚, though feeling rather hotter in full sun, a few light showers, not as wild as yesterday, 15˚ at 9pm. On 30 Jun 2020, Gerry 45d 164ft Surrey-Kent border wrote: Boots got ridiculed over suggesting sunscreen be worn indoors during the current heatwave. Seems unfair since at least the rain won't wash it off. A blistering 64F as the rain lashes down here in the sunny South-East. And to no great surprise the MetO claim for record rainfall 1000ft up on a remote Cumbrian hillside where only in recent times has an automated gauge allowed daily readings has been shown to be fake by Paul Homewood. Strange that they don't go to great lengths to get cold records isn't it? I presume the secret of fruit ripening is moisture and warmth. Being in NW London Rhys will certainly have more warmth than my country location. On 29 Jun 2020, Paddy, Aberdeen South, sub, 130m elevation wrote: 13˚C at 7.30, light SW’ly wind gradually turning into the W, sunny start with spectacularly tall cumulus towers building north of us which eventually spawned around 5 major showers during the day & evening, hot during the sunny bits with a max temp of 21˚ (that’s hot for us), some of the rain was really heavy but not long enough to really penetrate deep into the soil, 15˚ at 9pm. On 29 Jun 2020, claude grayson wrote: Gerry, I sometimes wonder if there is a missing link out there someplace weve missed in all the weather equations,re fruit ripening ,as there is often no explanation for why it ripens sooner in one part than another, that in theory is warmer etc. local microclimate? down under we are bracing for a cool spell after a week of cool E,now for a bit of the white rain.forcast to 900m in Nth Is today lower tomo,and thursday.will see what transpires.our weather pattens arent behaving so the really cold stuff isnt getting dragged up from antarctica as usual ,well not yet, but the temp dropped 4deg in 4hr yestdy as the S kicked in . On 28 Jun 2020, Paddy, Aberdeen South, sub, 130m elevation wrote: 11˚C at 7.30, steady drizzle in a cool S’ly wind, a mostly cloudy day with occasional showers but still a max temp of 20˚, some late evening sunshine dramatically contrasting with the dark clouds in the west, wind now SW’ly and quite strong, 14˚ at 9pm. On 28 Jun 2020, Gerry Surrey-Kent border 164ft wrote: Plums ripening!?!? And they say UHI doesn't exist or is a mere 0.5C. My plums are way off being ripe and it is not as if I am in Scotland but actually south of Rhys. Is it just me or does it seem to be windier on sunny days? Today it is very pleasant at 71F and the wind is good for flushing stale are from the house although a good few door wedges are needed. If the wind wasn't there it would be much warmer in the sun. On 27 Jun 2020, Rhys Jaggar wrote: NW London saw about 0.5 inches of rain the past 24 hrs, not earth shattering but certainly helps to keep plants fresh and healthy. Now over 80mm of rain in June, although of course the heat evaporated enormous amounts (my jug collecting water actually evaporated half of the 70mm which fell in early June before the current rainfall event). Our cherry harvest was complete by June 23rd, a very early date. We now have plums starting to ripen, again unusually early. Harvesting peas in June is also an unusual occurrence. On 27 Jun 2020, Paddy, Aberdeen South, sub, 130m elevation wrote: 16˚C at 7.30, thunderstorm around 5.30 but passing us by out at sea, quite a bit of rain for a short while, then foggy for most of the day, humid and close in the morning with a max temp of 22˚, cooler in the afternoon as the LP gradually moved north and east, 14˚ at 9pm. On 27 Jun 2020, Gerry Surrey-Kent border 164ft wrote: Claude - our MetO is very selective of rainfall records when it wants to make a point. It is always obvious that the longer record will undermine their latest fake claim as Paul Homewood often shows. The problem is the media are not interested in showing them up. Talking of the media, any coverage of India's first climate report? The BBC? The slave traders gazette - oops I mean The Guardian? Could it be that the report says there is no climate emergency, temperature seems to be in decline and there is no increase in extreme weather? And talking of extreme weather - where has our heatwave gone? A breezy wet 65F at noon so lets hit the beach! On 26 Jun 2020, Paddy, Aberdeen South, sub, 130m elevation wrote: 15˚C at 7.30, misty grey with a light SE’ly breeze, sunny slot from 11-4pm during which it got to 27˚, feeling humid and close but no thunderstorm, fog rolling in for the evening but still 17˚ at 9pm. On 26 Jun 2020, claude grayson wrote: Gerry, saw how devious the met is ,when yesterday i wanted to know the greatest snow fall in nz and was refered to data back to 76 .where as i had known that in 34 there was snow above the fencetops.so i looked around and sure enough in 1939 there was a snowfall over the whole country right to the very tip N. yesterday i looked up historical data for P nth airport and they had the historical data ave line to compare ,today it is NA.i guess because im on the naughty list and it showed that we are colder this year even by their own data ,and no-one is to know that. On 26 Jun 2020, Gerry 164ft Surrey-Kent border wrote: It is cooler outside but sticky and humid. Some rain overnight but also some thunder. I heard one rolling clap of thunder a way off and one close by but that was all. As afternoon drifts by a breeze has picked up but not quite in the right direction to go through the house. Yes, the excite of solar cycle 25 has died away just like the sunspots. Past experience has been of a month of no spots after each short spotty spell. On 26 Jun 2020, @CraigM350, Sub Berks 51N wrote: wrote: Two days of 31°C (88F) with a low of 17C overnight. Midnight tonight id 20C outside but 28C in the kitchen and 25C in the bedroom. Really looking forward to the cool and wind over the weekend, not a fan of the heat when it heads into the 80's. Enjoyed spring as the nights were bearable. Much prefer the cloudscapes we've had recently and the next couple of days look to deliver // From spaceweather.com "At the end of May, the sun unleashed the strongest solar flare since 2017. Since then ... quiet. Solar wind is blowing slowly, the sun's X-ray output is flatlining, and no sunspots have been seen for nearly 10 days. Welcome back to Solar Minimum" On 25 Jun 2020, Paddy, Aberdeen South, sub, 130m elevation wrote: 16˚C at 7.30, heating up quickly but tempered by a cool SE’ly wind that kept temps no higher than 25˚ today, that will have been different further inland where Aboyne quite often is the hottest Scottish place in summer and the coldest in winter according to official listings. Still 18˚ at 9pm & less windy. On 25 Jun 2020, Gerry 164ft Surrey-Kent border wrote: Thermometer showing 89F and it feels it too. Not much cooling last night and oh the joy of GFS as the 2am thunderstorms of the forecast this most are now just showers but lets wait and see. Wouldn't be their first time at getting that wrong. As predictable as ever the MetO is on about a heatwave - just a few nice days as apparently one of the forecasters said on the BBC and not uncommon in June. I wonder when his funeral is. More on message was one of his colleagues going OMG OMG etc.... A couple of plum trees up near my house that are usually quite abundant seem quite bare this year. Victims of the frost in April and maybe the one in May. On 24 Jun 2020, Paddy, Aberdeen South, sub, 130m elevation wrote: 16˚C at 7.30 and rising rapidly to 24˚ already by 9, fresh S’ly wind all day which was very pleasant in view of the max temp of 28˚ we had, still 21˚ by 9pm, quite an achievement for our latitude. On 24 Jun 2020, claude grayson wrote: getting a bit wet for the top half of the N Is. with up to 150mm forecast in next 24 h. down S Is. Alexandra couldnt get above 0 today after -2.7 overnite. On 23 Jun 2020, Paddy, Aberdeen South, sub, 130m elevation wrote: 14˚C at 7.30, cloudy morning with a less strong S’ly wind than yesterday, occasional light drizzle, brightening up by midday & temps rising to 24˚ in a hot and humid afternoon, still 17˚ at 8.30pm. June might yet be flaming. On 23 Jun 2020, Gerry 164ft Surrey-Kent border wrote: Paddy - yes, that is how to get accurate temperatures if you can't park an ice cream van or a jet aircraft next to the monitoring station. Claude - our useless Environment Agency have claimed that the UK is drying out but of course a look at the data shows no such thing. The GWPF have called them out on this but the media coverage is only about the EA press release as always. Latest piece of crap is record temperature in the Arctic Circle - well right on the very edge of it. Going to be warm today but as ever it will chill off quickly once the sun sets. On 22 Jun 2020, Paddy, Aberdeen South, sub, 130m elevation wrote: 12˚c at 7.30, quite still to begin with but a strong S’ly wind got going soon enough and kept up all day, keeping the temperature down, though we did get a max of 18˚ at one point, mostly cloudy and really dark in the west by evening, 14˚ at 9pm with light rain starting up, heavier stuff piling in behind as visible on the radar. On 21 Jun 2020, Paddy, Aberdeen South, sub, 130m elevation wrote: 12˚C at 7.30, raining steadily in a strong SE’ly wind until around 10, then gradually turning brighter and leaving us with a day of some heavy showers and sunny interludes, max temp 20˚, cooling down and clouding up towards evening, 14˚ at 9pm. On 21 Jun 2020, claude grayson wrote: dont you just get so tired of all the headline crap science.latest one today re .Antarctica loses ice twice the size of spain. But it was only a part of antarctica ,the weddel sea area and did they say that the ice is growing elsewhere. oh well , so so tiresome. On 20 Jun 2020, Paddy, Aberdeen South, sub, 130m elevation wrote: 15˚C at 7.30, somewhat cloudy to begin with but then shaping up into a fabulously sunny day with a max temp of 24˚ in spite of the fresh S’ly wind that started up in late forenoon, nice cirrus formations up above, sunny till late, 14˚ at 9pm. Solstice tomorrow at 00.44. On 19 Jun 2020, claude grayson wrote: Maybe ,just a slight maybe,the thinking ones are getting tied of all the obvious lies,or maybe there is too much data to fudge ,and so many scietists are sick of their life work being missconstrued that a revolt is beginning.Was looking at wiki,re paleoclimatology and nary a statement to support C/C as promoted by the establishment.none of the graphs seem to show us getting warmer longterm.There is hope yet sence will prevail. On 19 Jun 2020, Paddy, Aberdeen South, sub, 130m elevation wrote: 12˚C at 7.30, another day of really thick fog which only cleared by 5pm for an hour and a half when we actually had 20˚ for a short while, then back to fog again, mostly quite still with a NE’ly breeze in the morning turning into the SE by afternoon, 13˚ by 9pm. On 18 Jun 2020, Paddy, Aberdeen South, sub, 130m elevation wrote: 11˚C at 7.30, bright start but then the haar rolled in on the cool NE’ly breeze and we had another grey day, though not as foggy as at the beginning of the week, just medium high cloud base, max temp 17˚ nevertheless as we are in June after all, occasional barely perceptible drizzle, 14˚ by 8pm. On 18 Jun 2020, claude grayson wrote: For those who may be interested ,there was a 7.4 quake off the NE of NZ at 1249am today and as I had just looked at the sat. map of australia,and noticed a long thin line of cloud stretching from N aus to beyond NZ , I rechecked and have to ask why?they are on close proximity. Piers???? any idea. On 18 Jun 2020, Rhys Jaggar wrote: Monthly rainfall for June in NW London heading toward 70mm as 16 hrs of continuous steady rain has doubled the monthly rainfall to date. It can go on for several hours more as far as I am concerned as it will repay us for the lack of rain in May. The garden is currently absorbing the moisture easily: does mean I will have to mow the grass again early next week. On 18 Jun 2020, claude grayson wrote: Gerry,our climate boffs are saying ,get used to drought, and of course they are blaming co2 .Couldnt possibly be due to the sun and solar minimum .Oh well ,time will do its thing,as always. The ? is ,is it easier to live in a warm land or a cold one? On 17 Jun 2020, Paddy, Aberdeen South, sub, 130m elevation wrote: 14˚C at 7.30, light SE’ly breeze which occasionally turned into the NE, cloudy until midday, then brightening and warming up to 21˚, nice sunny evening, 15˚ at 8.30. == Ah yes, Gerry, perhaps I should put my thermometer inside the tunnel in order to get the right result :-) On 17 Jun 2020, Gerry 164ft Surrey-Kent border wrote: Paddy - don't you know this is the warmest June on record? Or will be once they have worked their magic. Much comment on WUWT about the new NASA sea level satellite and what will happen if it comes back with the wrong results. The Australian BOM spent lots of other peoples cash on a sea level project in 2011 but had to drop it as it didn't give them what they wanted to see. And they wonder why we don't trust them. Everything has greened up now as torrential isolated downpours have bubbled up inland from the Channel and headed NW. Odd clap of thunder mixed in. I can see the next one heading up now. On 16 Jun 2020, Paddy, Aberdeen South, sub, 130m elevation wrote: 12˚C at 7.30, 4th day of fog but by lunchtime it suddenly brightened and warmed up big time to a balmy 21˚ by mid afternoon, S’ly breeze throughout and by 5pm, whoosh, the fog rolled back in from the sea, trees dripping with it by evening, 14˚ at 8.30pm. On 15 Jun 2020, Paddy, Aberdeen South, sub, 130m elevation wrote: 12˚C at 7.30, 3rd day of fog, feels more like a mild October except for the cow parsley etc flowering, light NE’ly breeze, max temp 15˚, sown to 12˚ again by 9pm. Hard to believe that we frequently had lunch outside during May, even seeking the shade. On 15 Jun 2020, claude grayson wrote: Piers, A ? If the sun fluctuates as we know,does the small amount of neat loss at the equator regions also slow the drag effect in the higher lats,thereby draging less cold air mass toward the equaror,so where we would normally get more snow around the 30/40 lats we now get warmer weather because the tropics are not so hot . ie the hadley cells would lose some of their vigor???Our weather systems seem to have moved S,just enough to not bring the cold to the N as much as in the 1970s.So as the climate cools more, the effect will increase and we will get more drought in low sunspot times. its far more complicated i know, but???? since the late 70s weve had less snow in the N most years,and its not due to global warming.. On 14 Jun 2020, Paddy, Aberdeen South, sub, 130m elevation wrote: 12˚C at 7.30, foggy, still and very wet, staying that way all day with the occasional flutter of a NE’ly breeze, feeling mild in the 16˚ max, actually feeling colder in the house than outside so that we had to light the stove, 12˚ at 10pm. On 14 Jun 2020, claude grayson wrote: .a correction now that the official figures are out. coldest place was Middlemarch -12 .3 lowest since 2001 and countries coldest since 2015. Clyde -9.9 coldest since 1978. the Met guy said, ''the ground just loses its heat straight up to the atmosphere,theres nothing stopping it from radiating about.'' I thought there was a bit of carbon dioxide absorbing the heat and trapping it. maybe it only absorbs it when the suns up. oh well must a got it wrong ,again. On 13 Jun 2020, claude grayson wrote: so after a week of wet on and off 14,5mm ,we get to have another cool spell,with an o/n low of 0.0,and a grass of -1.0,and the met were way out with their -15 forcast for some parts .some may have got to -5 .I guess that way they can continue their myths. On 13 Jun 2020, Paddy, Aberdeen South, sub, 130m elevation wrote: 12˚C at 7.30, foggy & still, everything dripping wet from the fairly copious rain and staying that all day along with the fog, could have been a mild day in November, max temp 16˚ as an indication of it being June, occasional light E’ly breeze, drizzle in the evening with 13˚ at 8.30pm. Happy that the garden got a good soaking, so weeding will become a more regular job, we have been lucky so far in that regard because of the drought. On 12 Jun 2020, Paddy, Aberdeen South, sub, 130m elevation wrote: 10˚C at 7.30, sunny morning with a NW’ly wind and warming up nicely to a max of 18˚ by midday, clouding over thereafter with the wind gradually changing into the NE, steady rain starting by 3.30 and still going now at 8.30pm, 12˚. We might have the chance of a good soak. On 11 Jun 2020, Paddy, Aberdeen South, sub, 130m elevation wrote: 10˚C at 7.30, cold NE’ly wind but in spite of that we still had a sunny and relatively warm day with a max temp of 20˚ out of the wind, occasional heavy dark flat-bottomed clouds but not producing any rain, wind gradually turning into the NW, 11˚ by 9pm. == Gerry, if it’s any consolation, we’ve had our stove on every day since last Tuesday when the temperature turned, not too surprising this far north, of course. On 11 Jun 2020, Ron Greer wrote: GERRY (Surrey) Did notice this year that my Red Oak trees were damaged by May frosts, whilst my sub-Arctic trees species were not affected. Your point is well made. On 11 Jun 2020, Mark Hall wrote: Gerry, Saw a squadron of those noctilucent clouds over SE Herts a couple of weeks ago. Discrete domed puddings with flat bottoms in an almost clear sky. Like the flying saucers in "plan 9 from outer space". And we've got zombies too: brainwashed Corona ones. Nonetheless very unusual during summer and this far south. The clouds that is, not the zombies. They've already overrun the whole planet. On 11 Jun 2020, Gerry 164ft Surrey-Kent border wrote: Germany's claimed highest temperature evah from last summer is now shown to be fake as after lots of criticism of the site in Lingen reading 2-3C higher than all the surrounding sites - yes, not just a couple of tenths higher - the Germen MetO are going to relocate the site. Of course had it been in Australia then the BOM climate crooks would have 'corrected' all of the surrounding sites. I doubt our MetO can ever be shamed into expunging the fake record from Cambridge that isn't even an official site. So warm is June that last night I enjoyed a nice roaring fire for what is probably the latest fire evah.....so far. On 10 Jun 2020, Gerry Surrey-Kent border 164ft wrote: Ron - the question I pose is if what we have now is more damaging than if it did happen in winter bringing snow? It is all very well having milder winters but if spring and early summer turn colder then food production is going to suffer. I have recently noticed damage to my apple trees which I can only think is due to the harsh frosts of mid May. A big climbing rose also has damage to some of the flower buds that have not opened. It looks like the current interlude in spotless sun days will be gone very soon and will we then see another month go past with no sunspots. Noctilucent clouds have been seen as far south as London on Sunday and this is due to the mesosphere becoming very cold. And just to cheer you up, we face sharp increases in electricity costs as National Grid struggle to keep the grid working with low demand and the need to give priority to unreliable generation. They are having to pay off windmills not to produce so some inertial generation can keep the grid up. On 10 Jun 2020, Paddy, Aberdeen South, sub, 130m elevation wrote: 10˚C at 7.30, cold SE’ly wind, drizzle off & on all morning but more durable light rain all afternoon, though not enough to give any great depth of moisture to the soil, max temp 16˚, wind gradually turning into the E and then ENE by evening, 9˚ by 8.30pm. On 10 Jun 2020, Rhys Jaggar wrote: An incb of rain in NW London in June so far and now it is raining steadily again. Hopefully we get another inch or so before the warm weather arrives? On 09 Jun 2020, Paddy, Aberdeen South, sub, 130m elevation wrote: 5˚C overnight, 10˚ at 7.30, light & cold S’ly wind all day but contrary to the forecast we had quite a sunny day with a max temp of 20˚ out of the wind, clouding over big time by 6pm, getting very humid in anticipation of the rain coming tomorrow early, we’ll see how much we actually get, we need quite a bit to replenish the soil moisture, 11˚ at 9pm. On 09 Jun 2020, claude grayson wrote: oh dear ,I hope posting the bit abt the sun didnt upset the solar people as the pics on SOHO have frozen since the 6th. maybe they havent caught up with the major FACT in CLIMATE...IT DOESNT MATTER WHAT THEY SAY OR BELIEVE,nor WHAT WE BELIEVE ,the weather and climate doesnt take any notice of us puny small minded humans.. our met say we are in for a super cold spell for the weekend with temps down in the negative teens -15 maybe lower. 3deg at moment and will go lower before dawn/sunrise. On 09 Jun 2020, steven wright wrote: ive been trying to find if are we going to la nina and the is going eastley if so i know its a long way if so winter would be intersting On 09 Jun 2020, M Lewis wrote: It's certainly been a variable start to Britain and Ireland June weather. With luck, a blazing June will commence this weekend and bring dry weather and drought for the rest of the month! On 08 Jun 2020, Paddy, Aberdeen South, sub, 130m elevation wrote: 8˚C at 7.30, still a light but cold N’ly wind, overcast from the start and not warming much until about 3.30 when we had a nice 2-hour sunny break which lifted the temperature up to 16˚, after which it went cool again, 10˚ at 9pm. On 08 Jun 2020, Ron Greer wrote: Just a thought. Looking at the overall pattern this spring, what is happening now and what is predicted to happen over the next 10 days, if this occurred in Jan-March.then we would have had a really sharp cold and snowy spell On 07 Jun 2020, Paddy, Aberdeen South, sub, 130m elevation wrote: 8˚C at 7.30, cold & strong N’ly wind which kept going all day, very occasional short sunny spells, max temp 12˚, down to 7˚ by 10pm & still blowing. On 07 Jun 2020, Mark Hall wrote: The songbird, sparrow, tit and finch fledglings are going to be really hammered this year by the magpies. Loads less roadkill due to the crazy lockdown and the corvines are doubling down on nests. Even saw some lesser spotted woodpecker youngsters had been whacked in my local woodland the other day. On 06 Jun 2020, Paddy, Aberdeen South, sub, 130m elevation wrote: 9˚C at 7.30, still cold & windy from the NW but turning into a sunny day in spite of the many clouds, quite warm too with a max of 19˚ as the wind was less brutal than yesterday, light rain from 7pm but nowhere near enough to really soak the soil, 11˚ at 8.30pm. On 06 Jun 2020, claude grayson wrote: interesting to note that the largest solar flare observed since 2017 was seen at abt 11oclock pos. on the edge of the sun,but now it has come into view the residue is tiny.and barely vis,whereas the other 2 spots are larger.these dont mean its coming out of Minimun ,maybe just having a restless night.Sad to see that Valintinas work is being suppressed.one cant help but wonder What the hell is wrong with Scientists mental health when they along with the greens have to resort to this sort of gagging to uphold their flawed theories.TIME will always come back to haunt so why continue to follow down a deadend path where the only choice is to finally acknowledge you were wrong . On 06 Jun 2020, Ron Greer wrote: PADDY: got the dreaded die back here too. What a shame. Several good photos of the Cairngorm snow on the Snow Patches in Scotland FB site. On 05 Jun 2020, Paddy, Aberdeen South, sub, 130m elevation wrote: 8˚c at 7.30, wild & cold NW’ly wind all day, sunny intervals and showers in the morning, max temp 11˚, cloudy and showery all afternoon, 7˚ at 9pm. Planting out the chicory today for forcing during the winter, keeps us in crunchy (blanched) greens until May the following spring when Winter Gem & Oakleaf are ready in the tunnel. == Ron, a lot of our ash trees are not doing well with the die back (chalaria fraxinea), at the same time we have seedlings all over the place, we’ll see in time how they will do. As for temps, likewise, our stove has been going every night since Tuesday. On 05 Jun 2020, Ron Greer wrote: Aye, indeed snow down to the Cairngorm car park level ( 600 metres) chilly and damp down here and lit the woodburner. On 05 Jun 2020, claude grayson wrote: looks like the sun has woken up ,with 3 spots now ,but time will really tell ,for how long, we are ever so slowly sliding to winter with cooler days and odd cold nites. had 19mm rain this week and over nite 4.5deg. just hope our rain deficit doesnt all come at once. On 04 Jun 2020, Paddy, Aberdeen South, sub, 130m elevation wrote: 8˚C at 7.30, overcast with a lighter NNW’ly wind than yesterday but still damn cold, dry morning but a few showers in the afternoon, managed to get 15˚ max temp on account of the weaker wind, sunny end to the day with dramatic lighting, 8˚ at 9.30pm, more rain for tomorrow, that’s a good thing at least. On 04 Jun 2020, Ron Greer wrote: GERRY(Somerset) Aye, saw that even the Warmo-Beeb had the sleet/snow icons out for NE Scotland. On 03 Jun 2020, Paddy, Aberdeen South, sub, 130m elevation wrote: 8˚c at 7.30 and a strong and cold N’ly wind blowing, mostly cloudy with occasional showers and very occasional sunny bits, max temp 12˚, all par for the course up here, nothing to see, move along, 8˚ at 9pm. But still a bit of a shock after the 27˚ max we had the other day. On 03 Jun 2020, Gerry 164ft Surrey-Kent border wrote: Ron - all 3 models on Ventusky going for a chilly next 3 days, are they all correct or all wrong? Claude - good to see some live bike racing back from the USA in Wisconsin where the air temp was a cool 63F but the track was 93F - which explains why in the US the rule is for stations to be kept away from tarmac. As the unpaid volunteers on the Surface Stations project found, that was far from true. The cosmic rays and clouds is interesting as we know it can happen as CERN proved it and is working on a follow up that might provide some additional knowledge as long as they are honest. Not like the polar bear bunch who have suppressed news of increased numbers for 4 years so far. Rain? Where art thou? Currently 1pm and getting that thing where the radar says you are getting wet but you aren't. On 03 Jun 2020, M Lewis wrote: Finally, the Brit and Ire June 45 day forecast has been published by WeatherAction. However, I'm very confused as the June forecast seems like it applies to May rather than June. Headline "A Blazing June with Drought". In fact the June forecast closely matches the weather we have already experience during May. Does Piers operate in a parallel Universe where his time zone is a month behind the rest of us? On 02 Jun 2020, Paddy, Aberdeen South, sub, 130m elevation wrote: 15˚C at 7.30, cloudy but warm and close with a light S’ly breeze, warming steadily to 24˚ by midday but then the change came, the wind flipped into the N and by 3.30 we had light rain which is still ongoing and with a promise of more to come, much needed, 11˚ by 8.30pm. == RON, a repeat of 1985? Aaargh, I hope not! That year it rained from June to September and the only real heat we had then was 3 weeks unbroken sunshine in October. On 02 Jun 2020, Rhys Jaggar wrote: Paul. the temperatures HAVE been like June or July - consistently in the mid 20s here in the SE, occasionally up to 28C. I cannot remember a May like it in 40 years. I can remember dry ones, but never such a sunny, warm and dry one. What is so savagely hilarious is that no cricket is being played. Maybe they thought it would be unfair on the seam bowlers? Now we are going to have a week of weather more akin to late April/early May. Just of course after squash, courgettes and pole beans have been sown/planted out. Fleece going down tomorrow and will not be lifted until the weekend at least. On 02 Jun 2020, Ron Greer wrote: I see that the cheery Carole Kirkwood ( this morning) is in accordance with my posts of 27 and 29th May and mentioned the possibilities of snow above 600 metres. Much the same as happened in 1985 after a warm end of May. On 02 Jun 2020, Paul (sub) SE UK wrote: So the BBC were today reporting the sunniest Spring on record (613 hours or more, against an average of 436 and a previous record of 555(?) hrs), the driest May on record (since 1929, I think they said - although surely they have 300+ years of records??), and some other factoid I now can't remember. They did note the other night the max temps were still 3 degrees off records, but they always made sure (over past weeks) to say it was 'June or July temperatures'. Strangely, though, no comment on the 10 degree drop coming this week, or all the record cold data captured worldwide and referenced on electroverse... ///// One question I had was that a quiet sun (due to a (grand?) solar minima in progress) = greater cosmic rays (says electroverse), but Ev also says the cosmic rays nucleate clouds... so we should have more clouds by now?? It's all very confusing! On 01 Jun 2020, claude grayson wrote: well we got a bit of rain,2.5mm from a low NE.up NTH they got 500mm in some parts,250 in others and only 30mm where they needed it most. On 01 Jun 2020, Paddy, Aberdeen South, sub, 130m elevation wrote: 12˚C at 7.30, cool S’ly breeze, sea fog drifting in and out but eventually turning very bright and warm in spite of the wind, max temp 24˚, sunny end to the day, 16˚ at 9pm. Over these last few days we’ve had spectacular cirrus formations in the sky, anyone else noticed similar? On 31 May 2020, Paddy, Aberdeen South, sub, 130m elevation wrote: 13˚C at 7.30, sunny and feeling much warmer than yesterday as the S’ly breeze was lighter and less cold, blue sky throughout, no clouds and a max temp of 23˚, still feeling relatively balmy in the evening, 14˚ at 9pm. == RON: we’ve had a surprising number of viable beech seedlings in the lawn underneath our old beech, first time we’ve ever seen so many, seeds are usually empty. We planted quite a bit of red oak years ago, they are less vigorous than Q robur an petrea but make graceful trees and beautiful big leaves. On 31 May 2020, claude grayson wrote: Lorraine, look at NASA Ozone Watch,for a daily update 0on your O3 level,just remember its abt 3/4 days old so you have to questimate when the next thicker lot will be over your area. Seems you lot in the northern hemi are hogging the O3 as we down here are still looking at sparsely clumped patches. got a bit of wild weather happening at the moment due to a small low to the NE dumping a bit of rain and gales up Nth,and we may get the tail down our parts. hasnt gone below 11 o/n.Gerry maybe you could suggest to the Met that they do put white tarmac near Stns. might send a txt to ours to point out that it maybe why our temps are all higher than those taken in a grass paddock. can well imagine the response. On 31 May 2020, Steve, dorset uk wrote: No June forecast, hope Piers can still post from a prison cell, look forward to them, can send a file in a cake for him if not. What wonderful weather we have had and still have, glorious day Here. We desperately need some Rain. On 31 May 2020, Ron Greer wrote: GERRY: I see that GFS is also reverting to its earlier cooler forecast for Fri-Monday of the coming weekend with 850hpa temps of -5C for NE Scotland. This could mean snow showers above 1000 metres and frost in Highland glens. I expect it change again--well--it's GFS after all. PADDY: just had enough rain here to bring about the best tree seedling/sapling growth for years, though frost earlier in May killed the first leaves of Red Oak.( now recovering) On 30 May 2020, Lorraine// wrote: Lorraine// evening folks so convinced the ozone layer has repaired can’t wait to hear the science results. Strong UV in Channel Islands last couple of weeks. However sat in sun after 4 pm and normally would burn without cream but a light tan no burn. Haven’t experienced that since the 1960s come back to me if I am wrong. On 30 May 2020, Paddy, Aberdeen South, sub, 130m elevation wrote: 14˚C at 7.30, brightly sunny with amazing cirrus formations and a fresh S’ly wind putting a damper on any expected warmth, also quite a bit of cloud coming off the N Sea every now and then, making it quite chilly in our coastal strip. During the sunny spells we got a max of 20˚ out of the wind but by evening the fog came in and cooled things down to 9˚ by 10pm. On 30 May 2020, Gerry Surrey-Kent border 164ft wrote: Claude - have they invented white tarmac in NZ? If not then there is one thing that tarmac attracts in the sun is heat. Following motorsport the track temperature is 99% of the time warmer than the air temperature so how is that not going to affect the temp readings? I think Jo Nova has had a post in the past where a new road scheme can be seen to change the data at a site. Paddy - thanks and I will give it some thought for next year. I thjnk I am about a month ahead of you so would likely flower late April. An interesting observation from looking at Ventusky - the GEM model is now showing a NE wind on Friday coming down from Svalbard I think and yet London and the SE corner will be 80F. I find that a bit odd as I can't see how that would not result in it being a bit on the cool side. Any thoughts people? On 29 May 2020, Ron Greer wrote: GERRY (Somerset) Aye GFS is crap at predicting PM outbreaks from the north. On 29 May 2020, Paddy, Aberdeen South, sub, 130m elevation wrote: 14˚C at 7.30, sunny from start to finish with a SE’ly breeze - who wants to go abroad when we’ve got weather like this at home? - max temp 27˚ out of the wind (I always add that, otherwise it sounds unbelievable), but getting very dry now in the top soil even though plenty moisture left lower down. 14˚ at 9.30pm, soon first strawberries in the tunnel. == Gerry, P padus = bird cherry, not edible fruit but delightful sweetly scented clustered flowers, just finished flowering with us, would need to be grown and pruned as a standard to make a nice crown on a strong trunk, to 5m+ in hight. On 29 May 2020, claude grayson wrote: iI think your right Gerry,and in nz they all used to be abt a metre above GL but i see now that most new ones are roadside enclosures with steel security fences ,and so close to the road that any measurements must be suspect ,for contamination by road heat and windgusts from passing trucks. one supposes they need to use all means possible to get the temp rises they need to show GW..all the weather stns Ive seen around the central plateau where its coldest are all of the above type, so I expect to hear that nz ave temp has risen considerably in the last few years.. On 29 May 2020, Gerry 164ft Surrey-Kent border wrote: The cooling breeze made a sweatshirt necessary quite early yesterday evening. Given its noted variability GFS has changed its mind for the end of next week but still not warm. Paddy - how about a prunus padus in place of my cherry plum? I recall reading an article on WUWT about the height of Stevenson Screens being due to the easiest height at which to read a mercury in glass thermometer and that the best height for reading temperature is much lower where evapotranspiration takes places. It might have been one of Dr Tim Ball's excellent pieces. On 29 May 2020, Ron Greer wrote: GERRY(Somerset) GFS still going for a chilly spell a week with temps at 1200 metres at -5C ( so chance of snow on higher Scottish peaks) Looks like very warm Siberian air is going to hit Fennoscandia later that week. Betcha it's the latter that will get the news coverage. On 28 May 2020, Paddy, Aberdeen South, sub, 130m elevation wrote: 12˚C at 7.30, sunny from the start with a light S’ly breeze, warming rapidly and reaching 27˚ by midday out of the agreeably cooling breeze, the latter turning into the NE eventually but still blowing warm, that doesn’t often happen. Warm right to the end of the afternoon but cooling down to 14˚ by 9pm. On 28 May 2020, claude grayson wrote: this morning is a classic example of how they get glob warming.The current temp in Palmerston Nth is 7.6c ,Ohakea air base 5c ,yet my weather stn is out in the grass paddock 100 m from any buildings or road or concrete that may influence and because of animals is up at 3m rather than 2m so gives a warmer temp than it ought,but our temp is now 2.1c,so of course they would never use a temp from out in a wide open feild as it would undermine their GW,so if they were to use any feild data they need to ave so it hides the true temps. On 28 May 2020, claude grayson wrote: Paul ifi was to ave the temps for the last week we get a higher fig which masks the fact that we had a -3.3 frost and a 0.5 low this morn.all the rest have been above 5 deg .i dint like aves for that reason.the same with treering records ,the take an ave to hide the trends,and give a false trend. Gerry its so funny but sad to watch them all grasping at straws ,trying desperately to uphold their belief in fudged data when the reality is, no matter what we or they say, the weather will just do it own thing and we will record it after its happened. On 28 May 2020, Gerry 164ft Surrey-Kent border wrote: Quite a breeze today coming from the east and keeping it quite cool out of the sun. Ventusky is now showing GFS modelling out to Saturday 6 June and if it right then it will be a shock. You can see a perceived temperature and on Thurs at 1pm it is 66F, but a day later it is 38F followed by 42F on Saturday brought in on a NE wind. Good job I have a good stack of wood as that looks like cosy fire type temperatures. Notalotofpeople has a post on the German record set last year that is still being accepted as the all time record even though everything shows it to be an unsuitable site for meaningful measurements. On 28 May 2020, M Lewis wrote: The Jetstream is North of the UK, not far to the South. Hence the beautiful May Spring weather. What has happened to the June Brit and Ire 45 day forecast? On 27 May 2020, Paddy, Aberdeen South, sub, 130m elevation wrote: 9˚c at 7.30, cold NW’ly breeze, overcast start but sun coming out by 9 and staying until after 5pm, sea breeze starting up during the morning, max temp 22˚ nevertheless, cloudy evening with a cold S’ly wind, 11˚ at 9.30pm. On 27 May 2020, Paul (sub) SE UK wrote: Is it just me or has Piers' forecast been bang-on for the last couple of weeks? Impressive again! Will be interesting to see how this year averages out and is reported by the BBC et al - I have a feeling that if it's 0.2 degrees above average, they will report that and completely ignore the huge numbers of broken records for cold and snow we've seen reported on Electroverse... lol On 27 May 2020, Gerry 164ft Surrey-Kent border wrote: I can see that GFS has a very sharp change in temperature for the SE from Wednesday to Friday next week. The GEM model shows it completely differently with a SE wind from a warm continent keeping it much warmer. Really could use a good spell of rain, preferably overnight to minimise evaporation. On 27 May 2020, Rhys Jaggar wrote: Pea shoots already going to flower up to four weeks earlier than normal. Apples progressing extremely rapidly: first thinning already done and second thinning to take place on Friday. Pears almost completely thinned now down to what will become the mature crop. Cannot remember a more perfect spring for tomato growing. My seeds, mostly sown on March 27th, have been transformed into super-healthy rapidly growing plants now flowering and growing upward by the day. Potential for the most perfect crop imaginable if these sorts of temperatures continue to the Solstice. Also been absolutely perfect for spring onions (grown without watering from 1 week after transplantatiion until one week before harvesting began). Perfect, upstanding clumps of beautiful edible salad. Not sure how the early potatoes will fare with but one rainfall of 0.5 inch since sowing in late March/early April. On 27 May 2020, Ron Greer wrote: GFS, predicting a sharp PM outbreak on the 4th/5th June, but betcha it goes east of us and down the North Sea. Something more solid PM-wise later in the month. Shades of 1985? On 26 May 2020, Paddy, Aberdeen South, sub, 130m elevation wrote: 12˚C at 7.30, sunny all day with the obligate cooling SE’ly sea breeze, max temp 23˚, down to 11˚ under a clear sky by 9.30pm. On 25 May 2020, Paddy, Aberdeen South, sub, 130m elevation wrote: 12˚C at 7.30, splendid blue sky with not a cloud in sight, warm morning, though the SE’ly sea breeze kept a lid on it, but we still got 22˚ around midday, rather cloudy afternoon but great illumination with the setting sun, 14˚ at 9pm. On 24 May 2020, Paddy, Aberdeen South, sub, 130m elevation wrote: 13˚C at 7.30, sunny with a fresh W’ly wind, long cloudy interval after 9 but then a sunny afternoon with a max temp of 20˚, wind practically gone by evening, 14˚ at 9pm. Sunny forecast with rising temps for tomorrow, time to plant the courgettes out. On 23 May 2020, Paddy, Aberdeen South, sub, 130m elevation wrote: 9˚C at 7.30, fierce & cold SW’ly wind, lots of tender green leaves on the ground, another mostly cloudy day with the odd sunny blip that gave us a max temp of 17˚, slightly less windy by evening, 12˚ at 9pm. On 23 May 2020, claude grayson wrote: winter cometh and so too the cold.havent got above 15deg the last 3 days with ice on cars each morning but not on grass.forcast for heavy rain over the whole country ,but we wont hold our breath,as its showing rain now ,on radar,but its not reaching the ground. cats are vieing for the warmest spots each nite either on the bed or by the fire. they know the co;d is coming. On 23 May 2020, Maria (Ireland sub) wrote: Lots of rain cool and super windy the last couple of days, the rain very welcome for the garden better than any watering can or hosepipe but the wind not so welcome, poor trees 😬 Thanks to Piers forecast I resisted the urge to plant some flowers we'd grown they would have been hammered by the relentless wind instead they are jammin in their pots, relieved as they take so long to grow. Taking time improving soil and the veg plot loving our homemade compost added in early spring just finished last plot and the plots with envirogrind also working a treat everything looking good, even the extra potatoes in bags have picked back up after I cut all the frost damage off. The weather looks like improving from tomorrow maybe take a chance on planting more out in the evenings.// Thanks Craig 😁also had not heard of lacewings b4 hopefully by planting more flowers we will get more beneficial insects, hope your enjoying your garden too 🐝 On 22 May 2020, Paddy, Aberdeen South, sub, 130m elevation wrote: 12˚C at 7.30, heavy overnight rain, most welcome, strong SW’ly wind which got up to almost a gale by mid morning and kept going all day. Brightening up by 9 but then mostly cloudy again with the occasional light shower, max temp 17˚, cooler by evening & down to 11˚ by 10pm. This is not the first time that we have such winds at this time in May, I remember that in 2011 we went to the West Coast in early June and found the trees near the coast stripped bare of leaves like in winter. On 21 May 2020, Paddy, Aberdeen South, sub, 130m elevation wrote: 14˚C at 7.30, sunny for a while with a light SW’ly wind but then clouding over for the rest of the day, feeling very muggy in the afternoon with dark clouds building in the W, max temp 22˚ out of the wind, half an hour’s worth of rain after 3.30 followed by some late sunshine, cool evening with wind turning into the NE, 12˚ at 9.30pm. On 20 May 2020, Paddy, Aberdeen South, sub, 130m elevation wrote: 14˚C at 7.30, quite sunny with a strong S’ly breeze enhanced by the sea breeze in our parts, max temp 25˚ again out of the wind, which abated by evening, 11˚ by 10pm, no rain on the horizon. On 20 May 2020, claude grayson wrote: from cold to colder ,0600 -2.5deg,so for us a good frost.thinest cresent as new moon to morrow. why cant people understand that all the greeny lies are gona come back and bite..Valintina Zharkova said that this is not the coldest sun cycle,that we will get colder over tha next 3o yrs.so we must get drier with less evaporation to feed the clouds and addin less polution to seed cloud formation and we just get drier and drier. one of the driests parts on the planet is ANTARCTICA also coldest. On 20 May 2020, Rhys Jaggar wrote: Earliest recorded date for black fly on Broad Beans today: normally if it comes it is the middle of June. I guess we have only had 0.5 inches of rain since March 9th, so plants are beginning to suffer in the dry heat. With a high pressure predicted to span from New York to Moscow in 5 days time, I cannot see any let up in the SE of England soon. On 19 May 2020, Paddy, Aberdeen South, sub, 130m elevation wrote: 12˚C at 7.30, less cloudy than yesterday and turning very sunny by 9 in a light SW’ly breeze, so much so that we had a max temp of 25˚ in mid-afternoon, very welcome, still 15˚ at 10pm. On 19 May 2020, claude grayson wrote: just noticed that no recordable breeze but since i stoked up the fire the outside temp has gone up .3c,yet the weather stn is close to 100m out in the paddock.so no wonder all the official temps show we are getting warmer when the sites are now surrounded by roads and buildings.even one close to mt ruapehu has a house within 50m that wasnt there 20y ago .yet it is the official site. On 19 May 2020, claude grayson wrote: 0.1deg at 0600,frost on ground and cars.first real frost for the year so ought to knock off a few bugs.thin cresent moon slumbering on its back so no rain in sight for awhile yet. On 19 May 2020, out_east wrote: "make sure you know your law if you decide to follow his advice or Piers for that matter! I have seen plenty about what you can& can't do" Yea right, like the number of times some plod has come up to some innocent tourist threatening to arrest them for taking photos of a building. It's OK for them to stick Video cameras,- 1000s in every corner - a surveillance state, without any control whatsoever.Yea - NORMAL! Start taking loads of pictures of them, time to make 'em pay for Hillsborough. Yea..now it's payback time. For all these self serving "public servants" on a sanctimonious misson to tell the public they're supposed to serve 'em, how to run our lives et al Sending in plain clothes plods into undermine free speech then run off with the girls. Lying about MPs Fabricating evidence inc attacking an innocent member of the public coming out of his office, then claiming he attacked them..(which luckily was filmed by a member of the public showing they were lying). >W On 18 May 2020, @CraigM350, Sub Berks 51N wrote: Regarding Out Easts post below - make sure you know your law if you decide to follow his advice or Piers for that matter! I have seen plenty about what you can and can't do. Just make sure in the current Orwellian environment, you are within your rights but also as important we don't loose those rights. If you support what Piers is doing then maybe chuck him a donation? Link here === http://www.weatheraction.com/wactmember5.asp / Weather again turning warm and quite lovely. Yet to get to the time of year when the heat turns to muggy breezeless yuck and Stevie D starts plotting his exit tonthe Article Circle 😂 On 18 May 2020, Paddy, Aberdeen South, sub, 130m elevation wrote: 12˚C at 7.30, sunny & fresh after the overnight rain but clouding up soon enough and staying that way all day with a changeable SW-W’ly wind, max temp 19˚, would have been a lot higher if the sun had been out, 12˚ by 10pm. On 18 May 2020, out_east wrote: "I just wanted to say well done to Piers for standing up to this police state & getting himself arrested.? Pretty b.l..dy stupid comment! All he has done is donate YET ANOTHER DNA sample to the big police database.Even if they find him not guilty in court will REFUSE to remove this from the police data base/never apologise. There are better more intellient ways to f...k up police databases & stick spanners in their corrupt works than letting them stick U in clink for your right to stand on speaker's corner. Best way No1 is to start hack up their own bad ways by taking photos of every single time they overstep the mark.Name & shame every single on of them with uniform numbers &names..ID every single one using the same facial rec numbers games as they are using on you. No2 is to post the ID of every single one that behaves illegally, post the photos on line,- put a declaration below each PLOD as to how he behaved, how he lied, his names & addresses and in which force he/she oper On 18 May 2020, David (Yorkshire) wrote: "Well done piers" what for? His climate debate is backed by science and common sense. This virus denial/control and 5G hocus pocus is non sense and he will start to lose credability. Warm today but cloudy⛅ On 17 May 2020, Paddy, Aberdeen South, sub, 130m elevation wrote: 10˚C at 7.30, quite still with light rain which went on through the morning, brightening and warming by midday with a max of 20˚ and a mild W’ly wind, felt like spring had arrived, by evening ground level wind had turned into the NE and it turned foggy, 11˚ at 10pm. On 17 May 2020, claude grayson wrote: havent heard down here that Piers got arrested.the anti truth police must be doing as they are told by those corrupt ones higher up the greezy food pole. some really dont like it when the true evidence is presented. this morning we went down to 2.8c and have ice on the cars,so colder than what the met forcast.i used to ph in but cant be bothered now feeding them info that will be ignored and fudged over because it is recorded where it ought to be out in a grassy area away from any artificial heat source. On 17 May 2020, Michael wrote: One done again Piers.Take the courts,we will back you. Michael On 17 May 2020, Dave Voce wrote: I just wanted to say well done to Piers for standing up to this police state and getting himself arrested. Let's hope it goes to court so that this scam is exposed. On 16 May 2020, @CraigM350, Sub Berks 51N wrote: Maria - lovely to hear from you again. I have used the hose or even squished them off the plants and, of course, brung any ladybugs to the plant for a right feast. "Introduce beneficial bugs, like lacewings and ladybugs, to your garden as a natural way to kill aphids. Nearby plantings of mint, fennel, dill, yarrow, and dandelions will help attract these insects to your garden.=== https://www.gardeningknowhow.com/plant-problems/pests/insects/homemade-aphid-control.htm === indoors had an issue with spider mite so sent off for some predatory bugs. It was cathartic watching the tiny blighters run around the leaves seeking prey. The mites were soon munched & problem solved never to return. Late March found hundreds of vine weevil larvae throughout some of my strawberry pots (pathetic growth + those lace like leaves 😡). Repotted with fresh compost, sieved larvae by hand + left them out so the birds could feast. Strawbs now doing fine. On 16 May 2020, Maria (Ireland sub) wrote: Really enjoyed the great gardening weather in recent weeks & even worked outside in the start of a thunderstorm, I think it was last Saturday where we had some amazing rumbling across the sky slowly moving in and just as I spoilt the kids fun asking them to go In undercover the hail came down big time. Thereafter each day a little colder and we covered our largest potato patch but left some earlies in bags out and they got hammered by frost 😥 Broad beans just harvesting here and everything else food wise was good but also gutted to see some of our trees scorched too. I also spent all this last week at war with greenfly but I have their R in decline 😋 No I didn't eat them that is one of the greens I can do without in my garden/diet. The weather/nature is a fickle friend. Gradually improving though a lot of cloud with some sunny breaks last couple of days and so onwards with more sowing and planting out. Thanks Rhys for flower seed tips, its def. hard with huge swings in On 16 May 2020, @CraigM350, Sub Berks 51N wrote: Looks like the cold earlier in the week ranged from a 10-40 year event and in some cases was an all time record. Norway got snow many of us dream of in January! But of course look to the heat, or if you're a Daily Express headline let the map colours lead your story === "UK weather forecast: Chart turns Britain DARK RED as scorching 26C heatwave hits - maps THE UK is bracing for a sizzling heatwave to return with the latest weather charts show Britain turn dark red as scorching hot temperatures engulf much of the nation." === The only burning I see is of stupid. The map key could be turquoise or bright pink, it means nothing. 26°C in May oh dear god how could the UK ever survive that? 🤦♂️🤦♀️ // Out_East penny for your thoughts on your summer (to come) I expect cool/wet here with troughing (could also be muggy/wet) but I would think you may get a better summer as HP ridge more favoured where you are. I do see echoes of 1980 (see b On 16 May 2020, out_east wrote: A very cold MAY up here. It was so cold the communal heating was put back on, after a number of freezing nights. Every day now we are getting hail, thunderstorms mixed with wet snow, and down to -2C at night. In just over a month it's mid summer,- shortest day and white nights. Difficult to believe right now, as the leaves are scarcely out and a few daffodils are in flower. On 16 May 2020, Paddy, Aberdeen South, sub, 130m elevation wrote: 9˚C at 7.30, fresh WNW’ly wind turning into the W later, still quite cool under the clouds but reasonably warm in the sunny bits in between, warming up towards mid afternoon to a max of 18˚, still no rain, 11˚ at 9pm. On 16 May 2020, Rhys Jaggar wrote: Climate chaos or otherwise, no failures in the garden yet this year apart from a cat digging up 1/3 of a row of newly emerged carrot seedlings to have a crap! Finally potted up my tomatoes into final pots yesterday, meaning they live outside for the summer now. Squash also potted up into final pots before going to the allotment for the summer. Plenty of pods on broad beans already, which is unusually early: usually the last week in May is when they start appearing in earnest. Any chance of you sending us a thunderstorm deluge before the end of May, Piers? Would happily accept 1-2 inches of rain in 30 minutes right now.... On 15 May 2020, Paddy, Aberdeen South, sub, 130m elevation wrote: 8˚C at 7.30, light WNW’ly wind from the start which got stronger on occasion. Although a mostly cloudy day we had some good spells of sunshine and it got relatively warm with a max temp of 16˚, one short shower in the afternoon, 9˚ at 9pm. On 15 May 2020, David (Yorkshire) wrote: Dhalias scorched by the frost wednesday night. Took bulbs out of shed a little too early this year and should have moved the container inside, so my bad. Unless it was 5G that caused it🙄 On 15 May 2020, claude grayson wrote: high cld this am so temp back up to 10d with a 9k E.no rain in sight for another week they say,at least.have just compared the NASAozone watch to both the hemis.and makes interesting viewing when compared with Eldorados current conditions maps. On 14 May 2020, Paddy, Aberdeen South, sub, 130m elevation wrote: 6˚C at 7.30, perceptibly less cold even with the WNW’ly that was going all day, turning into a fairly sunny day with occasional thick cloud cover which made it feel colder immediately, max temp 11˚, though during sunny periods it felt much warmer out of the wind, occasional light showers, 7˚ at 9.30pm. == Rhys, I noticed our first early potatoes got scorched by the frost the night before last, fortunately the tallest shoots are only 2” high so not major damage. On 14 May 2020, claude grayson wrote: Craig,I dendroed 3 native trees of same species and same area, different ages ,500+y -700+y ,last year and got blasted by the nz dendro boffs for revealing that all 3showed the same slower growth from 1982/3 on.got told I was a troublemaker,for saying 'trees dont lie,people do' etc.but because they were over 500y the record was quite good. weve got Highs hovering at the present so like you guys variable temps down to 5/6d most nites and 3.9 now and dropping,so winter is coming.back in the 80s we used to get our first snow round the central plateau in May,but it suddenly stopped but last week snowed to abt 900m in Nth Is 500 Sth Is. On 14 May 2020, @CraigM350, Sub Berks 51N wrote: "The period from the 11th 19th period to was very warm many in inland and western areas, the temperature rising to 27.4C at Abbotsinch Airport (Glasgow) on the 13th. Cooler weather spread to all parts of the United Kingdom on the 20th and, although some sheltered places were occasionally warm, most areas remained rather cool until the end of the month [Rainfall] totals were below average almost everywhere with less than half the for the being recorded in most of Scotland and also in large areas of England, Wales and Northern Ireland." High pressure drifted around Iceland to Greenland then before a new HP emerged over UK moving to Scandi. Summer 1980 was unsettled and often cool although warmer later in July On 14 May 2020, @CraigM350, Sub Berks 51N wrote: Piers, certainly noticed the unusual winds+cold on Sun into Mon with a min of - 1°C leaving a frost Tues morn. A 1 in 10y event roughly. In CET terms the switch went from a top 5% to a lowest 5%! Large swathes of N & W Norway have had snow with yellow snow warnings in effect and it's milder at the N Pole than some parts if Scandi! (see yr.no). Whilst not uncommon it's a fair bit further S than usual for this. Has similarities to 1980. "During the first ten days temperatures were very variable with sheltered places in the west becoming rather warm at times while east coast areas exposed to onshore winds were cold. Frost occurred on several nights the temperature on the 8th/9th falling to -5.5C at Grendon Underwood (Buckinghamshire). On the same night the grass minimum temperature at Kew (Greater London) fell to -10.6C the lowest recorded there in any May since records began in 1895. [we had -9 grass temps here].... On 14 May 2020, Paul (sub) SE UK wrote: Katesbridge, Ireland: -6 degrees C overnight 13-14th May, the lowest overnight temperature in Northern Ireland since 1982, or at least so (surprisingly!) said the nice weatherman on the BBC today, and as reported on electroverse:- https://electroverse.net/parts-of-both-the-uk-and-us-suffer-their-lowest-may-temperatures-on-record/ /////// Meanwhile, extremely late (if not the latest) snowfall in Latvia and Lithuania:- https://infiniteunknown.net/2020/05/13/hundreds-of-cold-temperature-records-crushed-may-snowfall-in-latvia-may-snowfall-in-lithuania-may-snowfall-in-germany-tromso-norway-12-may-2020-global-warming-at-work-video-record-lo/ /////// This Global Warming lark is not going to plan! lol On 14 May 2020, @CraigM350, Sub Berks 51N wrote: Can we keep the CV19 stuff on the other blog pls. By all means discuss if aspects converge, such as Greta appearing on a Covid townhall with CNN - quality "expert there", shows how she is grasping for relevance post Covid (public transport is soooo yesterday) but otherwise the blogs are kept distinct to allow discussion to flow as this blog has lots of great growing advice easily lost in political debate so here's how they differ ==== [This blog] ☔ ❄️⛈️☀ Weather and Climate latest comments on Spring life and growing 🌿 🌸 🌾 🍏 ==== 😷🤒 The fight for democracy & accountability in Science & Politics - ConVirus, ClimateCon etc We are now in WW3 with the Cabal who are using their ConVirus and 5G + enhanced 4G3G via #BillGatesOfHell, backed by their ClimateLies to impose a NewWorldOrder of world fascism. 😡🤐😤 http://www.weatheraction.com/displayarticle.asp?a=842&c=5 ==== On 13 May 2020, Paddy, Aberdeen South, sub, 130m elevation wrote: 0˚C overnight, light frost in a few patches, 3˚ at 7.30, still a fresh NW’ly wind which only abated by evening, clear sunny start but clouds moving in soon enough to give the occasional graupel shower, max temp 10˚ and feeling cold in the wind, overcast by late afternoon, 5˚ at 9.30pm. On 13 May 2020, David (Yorkshire) wrote: Mark i get your point, however comparisons to other countries that are not as densely populated are not wise. Trump thought drastic action was not required, across the USA and ook what happened there! I did not buy into medical advisors stating 500,00 would die here if no action was taken but i do think 100,000 is a very realistic figure based on recorded cases and deaths so far with z lock down znd social distzncing in place. What i will add is, that it appears all too easy for the NHS/care homes to record deaths as covid. On 13 May 2020, Gerry 164ft Surrey-Kent border wrote: This is NOT any kind of flu. It is a coronavirus like SARS and in fact the common cold, and that should be a concern since there is no vaccine against that. The western governments inept response has been due to a failure to plan for a SARS pandemic and when asked to draw up such plans in 2005 only produced a plan for influenza. The Asian countries had SARS and have plans in place so are well ahead of us. It is less virulent than it at first appeared since open air transmission appears not to happen so all this social distancing is a waste of time. The fatal transmission mechanism is multiple contact in enclosed spaces. Despite 60 pages of twaddle, the buffoon and his government show no sign of understanding how to combat this which is track, trace and forced isolate. On 13 May 2020, Mark Hall wrote: David, Are you not concerned that a secret government committee designed all of these unnecessary restrictions based on the 13 year old model of a known epidemiological alarmist? Experienced modellers have called Ferguson's programme "quite possibly the worst production code they had ever seen". Yet our inept government, instead of scrutinizing and peer reviewing this peace of pseudo-science, panicked and overreacted. As Paddy points out, Sweden refrained from this lockdown madness and no doomageddon has been forthcoming. When they used Ferguson's joke code on the naughty Swedes it predicted 40 thousand deaths by the end of April. The actual figure was 15 times smaller than this, but the mainstream media is rather averse to pointing this out. It is obvious that some groups are using the "novel" aspect of this virus for their own purposes. After all they never cared to crowbar in authoritarian laws on the basis of a bad influenza season, did they? On 13 May 2020, M Lewis wrote: David, read this article. There is no smoke without fire! https://pittsburgh.cbslocal.com/2020/05/04/ross-township-apparent-murder-suicide/ The Covid-19 virus could have been a biological weapon developed from bat viruses in laboratory in Wuhan. Certainly Mike Pompeo, Trump and US Intelligence think it plausible. On 13 May 2020, Rhys Jaggar wrote: Interesting how even 2 miles can make a difference to night-time temperatures. My home garden potatoes suffered only very mild damage to Kestrel 2nd earlies, whereas down at my allotment site a 30 minute walk away, many many folks had their potatoes looking extremely sorry for themselves .I must say that my planting dates for maincrop usually mean that they are not through by 11th May so they stay safe in the slightly milder soil. This cool snap is a pain for my tomato plants which needed to be outside in the sun during the daytime to ensure lots of light and less warm temperatures. Having to keep them indoors at higher temperature with less sunlight is not optimal. On 12 May 2020, Paddy, Aberdeen South, sub, 130m elevation wrote: 4˚C at 7.30, cold NW’ly wind, another “not bad for November” type day with a mixture of sunshine and showers, max temp 11˚, down to 3˚ by 9pm. == David: the virus is real enough and a bad type of flu, what is a con is governments’ reaction to it, except perhaps Sweden (check out their death toll), and it’s a gigantic exercise in seeing how far people can be led/pushed and in predatory economics, i.e. many small businesses will go to the wall and the big corporations will gobble up their market share. On 12 May 2020, David (Yorkshire) wrote: The coronavirus is not a con or fake news. What would you rather happen? A 100 000 die?? Why people think this is a conspiracy is beyone me! On 12 May 2020, Gerry 164ft Surrey-Kent border wrote: Frost on my flat roof this morning as the strong NE wind died away overnight. Cold this morning out of the sun. Some damage to plants from the wind possibly as it came from a less usual direction. On 12 May 2020, Glenn wrote: With the mild snowless winter that we had once again this year who else thinks that the decision to lock Britain down was pathetic? I am anti-lockdown and because of the lockdown we are now in a much more worse situation than what we were during world war 2. Surely we did not fight two world wars to have to put up with this BS. END THE LOCKDOWN NOW! because if it doesnt im not going to hold my temper much longer. On 12 May 2020, @Piers_Corbyn London Chief Forecaster wrote: Yes, as other reports in this blog, it was unusually windy and cold on night of 10/11th in London. =+=+=+= Apologies for delays in forecasts loading this month (espec USA) this was due to Lockdown logistical strains - which have now been overcome so full timeliness is on the way. =+=+=+=+= Page one news in BI, Eu and Usa 30d FULL forecasts is on the Plandemic and Lockdown and the very very grim and dangerous consequences if these anti-democratic New World Order moves are not stopped. PLEASE READ AND PASS ON! THANK YOU =+=+=+= These are the most important times for the UK and world since the English Civil war which ended in 1649 - coincidentally as the Maunder Minimum, Little Ice Age, was developing. Please read and pass on. On 11 May 2020, Paddy, Aberdeen South, sub, 130m elevation wrote: 1˚C overnight, so a slight frost this morning, 4˚ at 7.30 with still a very cold NW’ly wind blowing all day, quite sunny though with a constant stream of flat bottomed clouds that brought a few showers in the afternoon, max temp 12˚, clearer sky by evening, so perhaps another frost, 7˚ at 9pm & going down. Fierce chill winds around Paris ripping green cherries of the trees in gardens. On 11 May 2020, Gerry 164ft Surrey-Kent border wrote: Blustery NE wind all day yesterday bringing with a deep chill during the afternoon. Wind continued overnight into today with it due to ease as night comes. Some sunny spells today but raw in the wind. A bit of rain bubbled up late afternoon and into evening yesterday but looking dry for today. Electroverse reporting on Met O plus others predicting a cool summer ahead. Surprised they let that out but then their past record has not been good so could easily be a scorcher. Their call comes due to a cool Atlantic blob which stirs a memory from the past where somebody commented on the dropping Atlantic temperature and what that would do for us. Meanwhile after a little burst of action the sun is asleep again and 100 spotfree days has been clocked up. Even Spaceweather have commented that it is a high percentage for the Space Age - since 2006 in their case. On 10 May 2020, Paddy, Aberdeen South, sub, 130m elevation wrote: 4˚C at 7.30, sunny trough the clouds, strong & cold N’ly which blew all day, intermittent snow showers and bright sunshine, max temp 11˚, wind continuing into the evening, if it drops we’ll likely get a frost, 3˚ at 9pm. On 09 May 2020, Paddy, Aberdeen South, sub, 130m elevation wrote: 10˚C at 7.30, quite damp & still, brightening up by 9 and giving us a warm sunny morning with a max temp of 20˚ and a SE’ly breeze, misty by the coast where we had to go and towards midday cloud started thickening and we had the first bit of rain. Temps dropping, wind turning into the N, rain all afternoon, some of it heavy like we haven’t had for more then a month, giving a good soaking to the ground, 7˚ at 9pm. On 08 May 2020, Paddy, Aberdeen South, sub, 130m elevation wrote: 11˚C at 7.30, cloudy with a light variable breeze, generally from an NE-E’ly quarter, long sunny period during the morning with temps climbing to 22˚ but then cloud moved in, it cooled down and we had some light rain on & off during the afternoon, not much, but better than nothing, 9˚ at 10pm under light drizzle. On 07 May 2020, Paddy, Aberdeen South, sub, 130m elevation wrote: 5˚C at 7.30 under a clear sky but no frost, warming up steadily during the morning and reaching a max of 25˚ by midday, pretty amazing after all these cold days, winds variable NE to SW, still by evening with 15˚ by 9pm, also a first for this year, proper balmy evening. Some of the blossom on our one big apple tree is about to burst open, helped by todays temps no doubt, so I hope the coming cold is not too severe. Saw a bat flying around in our garden in broad daylight late morning, haven’t seen that before. On 06 May 2020, Paddy, Aberdeen South, sub, 130m elevation wrote: 4˚C at 7.30, no frost, wall to wall sunshine from beginning to end, N’ly breeze to begin with, then turning into the NE, creating the contrast of cold wind and blazing sun, 20˚ max out of the wind, 7˚ at 9.30pm. == Ron, our proximity to the sea, about 4 miles or so, makes a lot of difference in terms of moderating extremes. Our first tatties are through, so here’s hoping that there will be no sharp frosts, apple blossom in bud, maybe open by early next week, lots of bumble bees about so with luck pollination is assured. On 06 May 2020, Gerry 164ft Surrey-Kent border wrote: Working out in the garden yesterday evening I called it quits around 8pm as my hands were getting really cold. Strong wind from the north. Looking like a warm VE Day holiday and much nicer today already. But as Ron says, quite a stark change feeding in on Sunday according to GFS and on into next week. The perceived temp function for GFS on Ventusky is pretty bleak so had better include sawing up some more firewood a top job. On 06 May 2020, Ron Greer wrote: Aye Paddy, been a high frequency of frost down here in our more central location. This very sharp polar maritime airmass Saturday-Tuesday is going to be cruel on plants encouraged by warmer daytime temps this week. The already long lasting snowpack on the Munros might even get a refill. GFS also suggesting that the rest of May is not going to be a roaster either. On 05 May 2020, Paddy, Aberdeen South, sub, 130m elevation wrote: 5˚C at 7.30, very slight frost early on, sunny from the word go and staying thus all day with a max temp of 17˚, out of the strong S’ly wind that started in mid morning that is. It’s another strange spring with brilliant sunshine but cold temps and very dry, let’s see what the summer will shape up to. Totally clear evening, thermometer says 9˚ at 9pm, but I’m sure the mercury hasn’t caught up with the actualité yet because it feels much colder and another frost looks likely. On 05 May 2020, claude grayson wrote: 0600 4.9deg and dropping .calm. the last week has been warm ,days above 20d nites above 12+,till yesterdays high of 12 as a low past over with snow forecast to 500m Sth Is,1000m Nth Is, we got 36mm rain over the last couple of days,badly needed so all is growing well,but no more forecast till wed.next week.My understanding of the weather is that cold =less rain due to less evap.so ought we be expecting more droughts in more areas,for longer. On 04 May 2020, Paddy, Aberdeen South, sub, 130m elevation wrote: 5˚C at 7.30, a cloudy day but with plenty of good sunshine in between, mostly a rather cold SE’ly wind but temp still got up to 17˚ out of the wind, 5˚ at 10pm with frost on the car roof. On 04 May 2020, Rhys Jaggar wrote: Two good heavy downpours of rain last week to break the seven week drought, giving April a respectable, if below average rainfall total of around 30mm. First month in about ten that rainfall was below average. Pear and cherry fruit set is the best I have yet seen, plums set fine but not so many and apples setting beautifully but still quite a bit of blossom on both trees. The stepover apple I acquired three years ago has set more fruit than the previous two years by a wide margin: I suspect the wet winter did the plant the power of good. 25/25 second early potatoes now through and 20/23 parsnip stations set at equidistant 22cm in triangular layout have one or more seedling through.All onions/sets put out early April now well established with deep green leaves and starting to grow in earnest after setting down roots.Turnips now thinned to final density and growing away. Broad bean pods already set and early beetroot should be giving first roots by 10th June. Climate Chaos: my f On 03 May 2020, geoffrye Hood wrote: Well the bees are confused with a very wet mild winter 30%-40% of hives in SE england, a week ago in warm weather they prepared to swarm by making new queens, this week they are eating the queen larvae as the weather has turned cold On 03 May 2020, Paddy, Aberdeen South, sub, 130m elevation wrote: 7˚C at 7.30, a mostly cloudy day but with occasional warm sunny intervals, during one of which we had a max temp of 16˚, but the minute the sun disappeared it felt chilly in the SE’ly breeze, some light but welcome rain by early evening just keeping things from being completely parched, 7˚ at 8.30pm. On 02 May 2020, Paddy, Aberdeen South, sub, 130m elevation wrote: 9˚ at 7.30, overcast with a strong NNW’ly wind, brightening up in the afternoon but no more than 12˚ max, wind slowing down and quite still by 10pm, 4˚ by then and feeling like a frost coming. On 01 May 2020, Paddy, Aberdeen South, sub, 130m elevation wrote: 7˚C at 7.30, overcast with a light NW’ly breeze which kept going all day, lightening up in the afternoon with quite a bit of sunshine and a max temp of 16˚, short light shower in the evening, 8˚ at 9pm. On 01 May 2020, Gerry 164ft Surrey-Kent border wrote: Paddy - thanks for the info. Presumably in its more native setting it gets polinated. I might reduce its size and keep it for an early blossom burst. Some hefty rain with gusty wind came across yesterday afternoon and made sure everything is thoroughly wet now. On 30 Apr 2020, Paddy, Aberdeen South, sub, 130m elevation wrote: 8˚C at 7.30, overcast with a cold E’ly wind that later turned into the NE, a few sunny spells in the afternoon with a short warm spell of 12˚, cool and still in the evening with 7˚ at 9pm. == Gerry, if you’re after fruit I would give your cherry plum the heave-ho and plant something more reliable, it is a SE European and Asian tree and not a reliable cropper, which I can say from more than 20 years’ experience. Love the early delicately scented flowers though, this year they were particularly profuse. On 30 Apr 2020, Gerry 164ft Surrey-Kent border wrote: Rhys: In the 5 years I have been here the cherry plum has only produced fruit in the first year - where I arrived too late for the blossom - and then it was only about a dozen or so fruit. To me it always seems to blossom way too early for any pollinators to be around, and that is even if we have a warm month of February. Perhaps I should tell it that if it doesn't fruit it will be history and replaced by something else. Be a shame to lose the early blossom though. V strong SW wind today with some sunny spells but a band of rain will be here soon says the radar. On 30 Apr 2020, Ron Greer wrote: The Snowpatches in Scotland site is reporting most cover since 2015 and there has been fresh snow in the Cairngorms and other high tops. With the wind direction/origins of the last month or so, if the temperature at sea level is 11C , then there is the possibility of snow at 1000 metres. On 30 Apr 2020, Rhys Jaggar wrote: Piers I do not know if you have seen the snow data for the California mounttains in 2020: basically they had a fairly normal November and December, then a total bust in January and February, then about 50% of the total snowfall for the season in March and April. The season was below average in total, but not dangerously so. Does suggest that there are longer stable periods of sunny weather happening in various places around the globe this year. I do wonder if we will now start to get regular rain in May and June after March and April in NW London have been mostly dry and sunny (with rain right at the beginning of March and now again at the very end of April)? On 30 Apr 2020, Rhys Jaggar wrote: Gerry: if you get a particularly heavy fruit crop one year and you do not thin it out enough, trees can go into biennial cycle with almost no fruit one year then a heavy crop the next. This happened to our Cox Orange Pippin apple tree five years ago and last year I thinned back hard to 100 fruit and this year we are at least getting about 30 clusters of fruit forming (unlike two previous biennial barren years when we only got two or three fruit in total), which if I leave two or three fruit per cluster may help to start evening out annual crops again. You may get a very heavy crop again next year and thinning it back hard may be what you have to do to try and restore annual fruit crops. On 29 Apr 2020, @Piers_Corbyn London Chief Forecaster wrote: HI ALL. Thank you very much for great interesting and informative comments. The interesting Spring NH / Autumn SH world-wide continues with marked contrasts, rapid changes and large/giant hail reports as we warned. Sunshine UK due to high pressure, predicted by us at WeatherAction has been welcome. The sunshine is being used by #BillGatesOfHell BBC +other malevolent agents of the Cabal to (claiming it's a result of the Lockdown) somehow justify their continued Lockdown in their desperate attempt to force world fascism and depopulation on us all. These are very scary times so we've moved the Accountability-and-politics blog up the home page for better access (where half this comm belongs but this is to inform you). Go there for more info. In Lockdown business has become very difficult so you are strongly urged to buy/ renew and promote WeatherAction forecasts and our acclaimed "ClimateChange Doesnt Exist" pamphlet. Thank You PC, currently out of London doing much updating of forecasts On 28 Apr 2020, claude grayson wrote: been warmer lately rarely going below 10deg.this morningat 0530 its already 2.4 and dropping so may get a slight frost by sunrise.there is already hard ice on the cars. Gery,try going outside at nite with a torch and see how many moths are about. a large chunk of polination is done at nite by moths and nite flying insects .but with sprays etc the populations are dwindling and combined with prolonged wet may have contributed to low set of fruit. On 28 Apr 2020, Gerry 164ft Surrey-Kent border wrote: Paddy - that is quite a difference as my cherry plum blossom was pretty much gone by March! Any idea why despite lots of blossom I don't get any fruit on it? i did give it quite cut back 2 years ago but even before that I only got a dozen fruit in one year. So much colder today with no sun but the rain is giving everything a good soaking with it looking to be around for a few days yet. The meridional jetstream is due to deliver Australia a taste of Antarctic cold this week and probably set a few records that will be ignored by the BBC. On 27 Apr 2020, Paddy, Aberdeen South, sub, 130m elevation wrote: 6˚C at 7.30, cloudy and damp from overnight rain, cold N’ly wind bringing showers every now and then but with sunshine in between, somewhat warm after midday with a max temp of 17˚ for a very brief moment, then back to cloudiness and cool but a dry evening, clear sky and 5˚ at 9pm, feels like there could be a frost. == Gerry, we’ve seen swallows passing through since last Wednesday but no residents yet. Apple blossom far from being out, only wild pear and dean, cherry plums nearly over. On 27 Apr 2020, Gerry 164ft Surrey-Kent border wrote: My neighbour reported seeing swallows around here about a week ago. The apple trees are alive with buzzing bees as they enjoy the blossom. My Mirabelle plum has turned out to be more resilient than I first thought with a few plumlets of various sizes. Hawthorn now in blossom. With rain due I am pumping out the butts into the ponds. Looks wet for a a few days but as ever you can find a whole variety of forecasts for the end of the week and weekend. At first the producers of the new Michael Moore film caved into the green hate mob but thankfully decided it would not condone censorship and put the film back up on its website. The usual crooks such as Mann and the producer of a factually flawed fracking film have lead the evidence free claims that it is funded by Big Oil - yawn - etc. On 26 Apr 2020, Paddy, Aberdeen South, sub, 130m elevation wrote: 8˚C at 7.30, overcast and still, then a light N’ly breeze that blew all day, sunny by midday and the afternoon was almost hot out of the wind, max temp 16˚, then cloud moving in from the NW and we had a few showers, first rain in many weeks and just enough to wet the surface a bit, 6˚ by 9pm. On 25 Apr 2020, Paddy, Aberdeen South, sub, 130m elevation wrote: 6˚C at 7.30, overcast with a cold NW’ly breeze which soon enough turned into the S, equally cold, some sunshine in the afternoon with a max temp of 15˚, cloudy thickening up by 5pm, 7˚ at 9.30pm. On 24 Apr 2020, Paddy, Aberdeen South, sub, 130m elevation wrote: 4˚C at 7.30, sunny from the start, light NNW’ly breeze to begin with but then changing to a stronger and colder SSE’ly sea breeze, max temp 19˚ for a short while but by afternoon clouds started drifting in from the sea and it got much colder, 8˚ by 9pm. Forgot to mention that we saw our first swallows on Wednesday, passing through. On 24 Apr 2020, Gerry 164ft Surrey-Kent border wrote: The greenies are very unhappy as they take fire from one of their own in Michael Moore's documentary on renewable energy that pulls no punches on how bad it is and on who pockets the taxpayer cash from it. The director is another lifelong leftie and he comments on how bad the things they were seeing were for the environment in order to in theory save it. The forecasts have a change coming for next week with some needed rain as we lose the high pressure. Currently there is a noted disagreement between GFS and GEM on Thursday for where the low pressure will be. So much for reliable predicting. On 23 Apr 2020, Paddy, Aberdeen South, sub, 130m elevation wrote: 2˚C at 7.30, bright sunshine, slight frost melting away quickly, light N’ly breeze, full sun again, wind eventually changing into a SSE’ly sea breeze, got to 20˚ nevertheless, so dry everywhere but still plenty moisture further down in the ground, 7˚ at 9pm. On 22 Apr 2020, Paddy, Aberdeen South, sub, 130m elevation wrote: 3˚C at 7.30, foggy further inland from us, a little cloudy here with a light N’ly breeze but soon brightening up to another sunny day, though today we had quite a bit of high cirrus cloud, which didn’t stop temps rising to 19˚ max, winds variable from ESE, sea breeze type, 7˚ at 9pm. == Gerry, we have lots of cherry plum (Prunus myrobalan) which we planted nearly 30 years ago in our forest, but they mostly serve to feed the bullfinches, we’ve had fruit on a very few trees in very few years, being much further north, of course. On 22 Apr 2020, Gerry 164ft Surrey-Kent border wrote: After a calmer start the wind has picked up again to make it a third day with a cold easterly wind, without which it would be very warm. Looks like at least one fruit has set on the Mirabelle plum and maybe more will become obvious in time as the frost damaged blossom drops off. Having been here 5 years now, the cherry plum has managed to fruit in only that first year despite having lots of blossom. The apple tress are drenched in blossom now. The rain last week refreshed things but it is very dry in parts now. On 21 Apr 2020, Paddy, Aberdeen South, sub, 130m elevation wrote: 3˚C at 7.30, foggy start but the sun won through soon enough and we had yet another very sunny day with absolutely no cloud, that is a real rarity, variable light but cold wind from a generally E’ly direction, making it hot and cold with a max temp of 17˚, still evening, still 7˚ at 9pm. This weather is in strange contrast to the even more bizarre controlavirus business. On 21 Apr 2020, Jamie wrote: I thought I'd downloaded the wrong year when I saw this month's forecast, especially this week! Getting bored of the current weather, need some rain! On 19 Apr 2020, Paddy, Aberdeen South, sub, 130m elevation wrote: 5˚C at 7.30, cloudy and still but the sun came out soon enough, along with the fresh SE’ly wind that blew all day, 17˚ max in shelter, cooler in the wind, 6˚ by 9pm. On 19 Apr 2020, Rhys Jaggar wrote: Maria A lot of flower seedlings will germinate well in leaf mould on top of bog standard MPC. Some flower seeds need light to germinate so do not cover them or they will not fire (e.g. Echinacea, rosemary, thyme, sage). A few do seem to need cold stratifying (Eleagnus was one) and a few I have failed to fire at all yet. But leaf mould certainly aids germination of a whole bunch of them. 16/16 first early Casablanca potatoes through by 15th April. Beetroot growing away beautifully as are all radish, turnip and spring onion. Onions now well established after transplantation and all cherry, plum and pear fruit have set. Apples now in flower. Some much needed rain yesterday, but back to sunshine again all week. On 18 Apr 2020, Paddy, Aberdeen South, sub, 130m elevation wrote: 5˚C at 7.30, overcast, E’ly breeze, brightening up by mid morning into yet another sunny day but the wind put a sharp damper on it whenever we left the shelter of trees, max temp 15˚, down to 6˚ by 9pm. == “Two people were caught sunbathing in Scotland. They tested positive… for hypothermia.” On 17 Apr 2020, Paddy, Aberdeen South, sub, 130m elevation wrote: 2˚C at 7.30, misty and cold until mid morning, then bright and sunny for the rest of the day with a max temp of 15˚, cold wind off the North Sea, typical spring HP weather as described by Ron, the sun makes you sweat but the wind will give you a cold if you’re not careful, no complaints though, 6˚ by 9pm. == Mark Hall, I was too tired last night to retrieve this from the bowels of my computer https://tinyurl.com/ttnqe8t, 54 pages so not a 3-minute read. On 17 Apr 2020, Gerry Surrey-Kent border 164ft wrote: Looks like the dry spell may be coming to an end today but I can't say it is not needed as it such a change to the ground from a month ago. Looks like the frosts of a couple of weeks back did for the blossom on my Mirabelle plum as nothing looks set. Other plums and damson look OK so far and the apple trees are coming out. Nothing to complain about compared to the damage done by the frosts in n Italy and the Balkans. More snow for Greece and a big 4ft dump in Finland. In parts of the US century old low temp records are being broken. Lots of fiddling for NASA /NOAA to do to hit warmest year evah. After the recent solitary sunspot, the blankness has returned. Nearly another half month gone by. On 17 Apr 2020, M Lewis wrote: The article on BBC News Science fails to mention any affect of the Sun and Solar Wind on the Jet Stream. It states "The exact mechanism by which climate change affects the jet stream isn't understood. But the view is that as the Arctic warms, the temperature differences between the region and the mid-latitudes that drive the air current are reduced. This slows down the stream, making it wander further. The more CO2 we humans pump out, the more divergence starts to emerge between the behaviour of the Arctic and the mid-latitudes and this behaviour is accelerating and enhancing some of the differences. It is a crucial part of what is creating this waviness and the consequences" said Dr Tedesco. So man made CO2 is yet again the culprit! Why can't scientists accept the role of the Sun? Why is the Sun taboo for scientists? On 16 Apr 2020, Paddy, Aberdeen South, sub, 130m elevation wrote: 7˚C at 7.30, overcast and quite still but eventually a sharp cold N’ly breeze got going, sometimes switching into the S as we live near the coast, sun coming out in the afternoon, max temp 16˚, cloudy again by evening, 7˚ by 9pm. Dry, dry, dry. == Ron, yes I know that feeling! On 16 Apr 2020, Ron Greer wrote: fairly classic Scottish April here with cold northerly or easterly winds, yet warm sunshine, some nights frosty and clear others cloudy without frost and generally very dry. Seed and seedlings need frequent light watering. Battle against rabbits eating the rarest most prized stuff., Watership Down was a disaster movie as was Bambi. On 16 Apr 2020, Mark Hall wrote: We've lived with these high energy particles, these little cannon balls of destruction that destroy tissue, for a long time. I don't think we should worry too much about 5G that acts much more like a wave. And at the end of the day, our salvation depends on our ability to repair this cellular damage. Just like defeating pathogens requires a fully functioning immune system. Sorry if I sound a bit preachy on this Paddy. Will check out that censored video a bit later. On 16 Apr 2020, Mark Hall wrote: Paddy, yes we should always mistrust the authorities. Scepticism is our first line of defence, but this 5G thing looks a bit like the vaccine/autism panic. I agree that in the quest to transmit more information, we are using higher frequencies and this in turn requires denser masting than for longer wavelengths. And that the higher the frequency the potential danger to animals increases, but 5G is firmly on the Infra-red side of the electro-magnetic spectrum. Microwaves and visible light are more dangerous, but we still re-heat our meals and walk in the sunshine. It is the ionising radiation on the Ultra-Violet side that is the real problem, including X-RAY and Gamma radiation. This stuff has the energy to break chemical bonds in DNA and damage cells. Atomic nuclei stripped of their outer electrons rip through our bodies every second of the day (mainly from the Sun, but also from the Cosmos). In the wave or particle theory dichotomy, these babies definitely behave as the latter. On 16 Apr 2020, Gordon wrote: Intersting article on the BBC re 'Climate Change' https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-52286165 Maybe not a U turn but at least a slight deviation for the BBC. It is only a small step from what is being said here to acknowledging the views of Piers Corbyn On 14 Apr 2020, Paddy, Aberdeen South, sub, 130m elevation wrote: 2˚c at 7.30, slight frost, still a cold N’ly breeze that kept things really cold whenever the sun disappeared, but when it was out temps got to 14˚ by mid afternoon and actually feeling mild with 12˚ at 8pm. A marauding roebuck has been eating our tulips, so we had to put netting around the pots, they’ve never taken a shine to them before. On 14 Apr 2020, M Lewis wrote: Can I thank Piers for his 30d and 45d April Brit and Ire forecasts. Although 2 or 3 days out in timings, the general weather pattern is playing out as described. On 13 Apr 2020, Paddy, Aberdeen South, sub, 130m elevation wrote: 4˚C at 7.30, overcast and staying that way until late afternoon, light N’ly breeze, feeling chilly, max temp 12˚, great when the sun finally came out, quite still by evening, possibly a frost coming, 4˚ at 8.30pm. == Mark Hall, while I’m not an expert on electricity, I daresay there is a difference between what has been occurring naturally for millennia and what is manmade. Here is a 10 min video that will send you onto paroxysms of disdain, it was taken down by YT after it had gone viral and is now on Bitchute https://tinyurl.com/uu242us. Notice also how the MSM are trying hard to debunk the connection between 5G and the cerveza 19, I wonder why? :-) On 12 Apr 2020, Maria (Ireland sub) wrote: That was a nice few mild days, yesterday around 19/20 deg and a bit intense at times to work in but a nice tan & lots of vit :D, the plastic greenhouse got a bit too hot so for now made a shade cover out of some green netting to pop over some screws on the exterior batten but may have to save & get a better grade shade cloth sorted, then today I realised I've a wee flashing problem to find a solution to after lots of heavy rain this morning temp back to 10 deg, some small amount of water finding it's way down the back wall, which is less than when just an external garage wall but still a lil flaw in the plan. Lots of seeds popping up all over the place and just cucumber and squashes pumpkins ect to get going soon now. Trying some flower seeds too this year and I'm getting some good results but man they are a lot fussier than my chunkier veg seedlings 😅 Happy chocolate eating this weekend 🍫 On 12 Apr 2020, Paddy, Aberdeen South, sub, 130m elevation wrote: 7˚C at 7.30, cloudy but bright, light NW’ly breeze, sunny morning so that we could actually sit outside, max temp 15˚, but after midday it suddenly turned quite cold & cloudy with a sharp N’ly wind, small amount of rain, more like the usual Easter weather, 4˚ by 9pm. On 12 Apr 2020, Rich wrote: Hello Crag It wasn't so much that we have a warm April, it was more the consistent run of warm months over the last 2 years or so. By the time April is done (looks set mostly warm/dry after next few days,)we will likely only need to be 1 Dec above the av CET for the remainder of the year. Not overly challenging if we look at how we have been trending. Stay safe all On 12 Apr 2020, Mark Hall wrote: Paddy, dos San Miguel por favour. Looked at that article and some of the arguments seemed a bit tenuous. You're not going Amish on us are you? It's been raining electricity on humanity for a long time, much longer than recent telecommunication developments. At any given moment there are 2000 thunderstorms happening globally and each one on average possesses 20 times the power of the Hiroshima bomb. The sun sends out massive pulses of radiation and all manner of cosmic radiation pours in from the rest of the universe all the time. My take on this is that microbes and mankind have been duking it out for a hundred thousand years or more. This competition has made each protagonist stronger and long may it continue. The main problem for humans is when malnourishment leaves us weak and susceptible, because the pathogens are always there waiting to pounce. This present Corona panic is completely bogus, pushed by professional bed wetters and political opportunists. A hyped up cold vi On 11 Apr 2020, Paddy, Aberdeen South, sub, 130m elevation wrote: 11˚c at 7.30, light S’ly breeze, warming from the get-go but always feeling cooler immediately when the sun was obscured by clouds, max temp a respectable 19˚, unusual for the Easter weekend as it is more often cold, cloudy evening, still 13˚ at 9pm. Here is a good article on the cerveza 19 which to me is a lot closer to the truth than the official narrative https://tinyurl.com/vbjhs2z. Happy Easter everyone! On 11 Apr 2020, Rhys Jaggar wrote: Paddy, if your soil at depth is as nicely saturated with moisture as ours is down here, I imagine farmers are well chuffed. Uninterrupted sowing into soil with plenty of moisture in it and warmth to germinate seeds. Our apple trees are now pretty much into full flowering mode, a good three weeks early than average. The cherry and pear have bad the finest blossom for several years and the radish, turnip and fenugreek sown direct have all come through evenly and rapidly. I would not actually mind a wetter summer down here: once plants are established they are quite happy with a bit of rain. A depression over the channel islands sending us moisture-laden SE winds does us perfectly. Looking at a first radish harvest around 15th April after sowing modules and planting out in mid March. A new record by a full 10 days is in prospect. On 10 Apr 2020, Paddy, Aberdeen South, sub, 130m elevation wrote: 6˚C at 7.30, overcast with a cool S’ly breeze, quite a bit of sunshine around midday/early afternoon, enough to bring temps up to 18˚, cloudy and cool again later with 7˚ by 9pm, light rain. On 10 Apr 2020, Paul wrote: Looks like another record breaking low ice minimum this September if the melt continues at this rate. On 09 Apr 2020, Ron Greer wrote: anyone else having problems getting GFS to run? On 09 Apr 2020, Paddy, Aberdeen South, sub, 130m elevation wrote: 6˚C at 7.30, overcast with a cold SE-S’ly wind which blew all day and made it feel really chilly in spite of the occasional good sunny spells, max temp 13˚, down to 7˚ by 9pm. Complete contrast to yesterday, which felt that summer was just around the corner, dream on… On 09 Apr 2020, @CraigM350, Sub Berks 51N wrote: Rich - I would actually. 2017 had quite a nice warm start with a nice Apr and the summer didn't turn out so good. 2007 was also another warm start, with a warm fine Apr & summer didn't turn out so good. 2014 looked good too with a rather nice Apr until Aug didn't turn out quite so good. Long, long way to go off course but with the current atmospheric set up & continued low solar activity (+ lag) we could be in for a wet summer & if late autumn, early winter is colder than av. the record will be quite safe. It's very early days & just like when we have a below av. start to the year, can easily change. All I would say is be wary of warm & sunny April's it's one of the few l/t climate lore f'casts for the UK that mostly works. Apr is also not done by any means. Well forecast Piers, just a shame it's hard to make much of it in lockdown (more on that another day). Stay safe all + fight the New Green Deal. That would make this look like a walk in the park-probably closed anyway 😂 On 09 Apr 2020, claude grayson wrote: down to 2.9c this morning due to a S front yesterday,that gave .6mm rain. Watching the moon the last few nights and early mornings,i have wondered about the thought, that the moon pulls the crust up abt 300mm. if so then it must be able to be calculated at any point on earth ,how much the crust is moved ,up and along,as the bulge moves around ,and therefore it must be able to be calculated how much tugging is applied to any particular faultline either along or sideways,sideways would probably be the greater force to trigger a quake,as the moon side would tend to get tugged away from the far side.??? On 09 Apr 2020, Rich wrote: Another warm start to another year, to beat the all time annual UK temp the average only has to remain 1.16deg c above normal for the rest of the year..... you wouldn't bet against it! On 08 Apr 2020, Maria (Ireland sub) wrote: What a beautiful day today, huge contrast from cool days before almost a light grass frost this morning, mist looked magic early morn but quickly cleared, so nice to have blue sky warm sun and the smell of summer in the air, the kind of day you sit outside late afternoon and grab some time together after a hard day planting potatoes, eat chat with a lil fire going and watch nature.The kids are seeing the results of the bird boxes they made last year and so entertaining to watch. Good time to remind ourselves how although things have been hard at times we are truly lucky to have each other and a garden.The worm compost harvested from our first time at a wormery has just boosted the peppers on I potted up and they look so healthy, all tomato varieties have just germinated over the last week and chilli plants slow but sure, planting out onion modules tomorrow, first time trying them like this usually I plant sets out and net. Moon has also been beautiful. On 08 Apr 2020, claude grayson wrote: interesting that chch had a 4.3quake a hr ago just as the full moon was setting On 08 Apr 2020, Paddy, Aberdeen South, sub, 130m elevation wrote: 6˚C at 7.30, cloudy with a SSW’ly breeze, sunny by mid morning and getting what we would call really hot here, i.e 20˚ out of the wind, clouding up by 3pm with the wind gradually changing into the N and actually feeling quite nippy, a mere 5˚ by 8.30pm. == Rhys, also very dry here, haven’t had such a dry spring for many years, farmers are happy as they can sow uninterrupted. On 08 Apr 2020, Paul (sub) SE UK wrote: Record-size hole opens in ozone layer above the Arctic >>>> https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2020/apr/07/record-size-hole-opens-in-ozone-layer-above-the-arctic >>>> I wonder if it's a 7 inch or a 12 inch? :-D haha! ////// Interesting to note that: "..scientists say [it] is the result of unusually low temperatures in the atmosphere above the north pole... [They] monitored unusual dynamic conditions, which drive the process of chemical depletion of ozone. [Those dynamics] allowed for lower temperatures and a more stable vortex than usual over the Arctic, which then triggered the formation of polar stratospheric clouds and the catalytic destruction of ozone." //// Of course, "The hole is not related to Covid-19 shutdowns [cutting] air pollution and greenhouse gas emissions. It is also too early to say whether the unusually stable Arctic polar vortex conditions are linked with the climate crisis, or part of normal stratospheric weather variability." Whereas warming = AGW! On 07 Apr 2020, colin wrote: hi all - its sunny here in leeds as the wild jet stream brings warm air up from med / Africa. no more storms or heavy rain for a while we assume. we need a heat wave to kill off the coronavirus and get back to normal until the next hysterical panic attack like global warming arises again.. On 07 Apr 2020, Paddy, Aberdeen South, sub, 130m elevation wrote: 2˚C at 7.30, very slight frost in places, sunny right from the start and to the end of the day, strong & fairly cold SW’ly breeze, max temp 16˚ but feeling cold whenever the sun was hidden by clouds, still 8˚ though by 8.30pm. Supermoon, i.e. full moon in perigee position which makes it up to 14% bigger and 30% brighter than the ordinary full moon, tomorrow morning at 3.34, the actual perigee was tonight at 19.08. On 07 Apr 2020, Rhys Jaggar wrote: Well, the summer weather in early April has driven the first two asparagus spears out of the ground: nothing to eat for a week or so, but they are out; the pear, cherry and plum are in full blossom; and the first direct sown radish are already through well. Removed all the fleece from peas, radish and beetroot as it is no longer necessary. Onion plants to go in tomorrow along with first modules of spring onions. May as well take advantage of three days of warm weather to get them settled in. Looks like our March and April will be like California's January and February. Barely any rain here now for 4 weeks and not looking like much before the 20th of the month. On 07 Apr 2020, Colin wrote: Hi all well global warming has all gone away as reality of germ warfare virus cause global pandemic and destroys economies . No one can afford the insane global warming projects like the insane Dutch project to build a north sea borrow from Scotland to Denmark and one from Dover to caliais thus draining the north Sea. This is all so Europe doesn't flood due to non existent melting ice caps. BBC and ch 4 never mention great or climate change anymore they know it's all.fake and unaffordable now corona virus has destroyed Europe's economies and know eu is doomed. On 07 Apr 2020, Maria (Ireland sub) wrote: As we were just drying out the rain came down big time yesterday some fairly hefty showers and a bit windy with it too, was a good day to be in the greenhouse sowing and the rain was good for the beds I had prepared on the vegplot, the mange tout peas we just planted out hanging in there under their fleece :)) Our last few lambs lettuces just gone to seed in the tunnel along with the mizuna, pulling that out to compost and adding envirogrind into the soil for the first time to see if improves the soil, the kale not long left either but the valdor lettuces mulched around with our own compost have been fab all of March and just reaching full maturity so quickly using them up will def sow them again in Autumn.Apples stored from a friend nearly gone but our rhubarb going for it this year so nearly there to pick. Waiting for April spring cabbages outside to get a bit bigger tho the tunnel ones nearly there so on with the chard. Improved weather this afternoon and 2moro looks better again. On 06 Apr 2020, Gerry 164ft Surrey-Kent border wrote: Paddy - I got some photos last night. I missed the best night when Venus sits in the centre. Ron - using Ventusky I can't see as far ahead as 17th but of the 2 models GFS and GEM covering 14th it is interesting to see to the big difference in forecast. Warm for GFS but cold easterlies for GEM - which will be right? Paul - I wonder if with the flights grounded we will see the temperature rise as the vapour trails are missing just as happened after 9/11? Otherwise I had the same concerns as that article. Yesterday was so warm my CH didn't come on and I don't think it was on this morning either. Cloudier today but still warm. Lots of nesting activity going on. Meanwhile in the past week there has been snow in Portugal and there is snow in northern Greece. I also read that there had been no snow in Moscow this winter which I find a surprise but to make up for it some arrived at the end of March. Are we seeing warmer winters but damaging colder springs? On 05 Apr 2020, Paddy, Aberdeen South, sub, 130m elevation wrote: 5˚C at 7.30, strong & cold S-SE’ly wind, bright start but then clouding over with intermittent hazy sunshine, 13˚ max temp out of the wind, things are amazingly dry now, still 8˚ by 8.30pm. On 04 Apr 2020, Paddy, Aberdeen South, sub, 130m elevation wrote: 5˚C at 7.30, overcast all day with a SW-S’ly wind which felt really cold at times but we still had a max temp of 12˚ and feeling a little milder towards evening, 7˚ at 8.30pm, pale veiled moon overhead, Venus not visible. == Rhys, we also have Savoy cabbage left, the only type I can eat without gastric solar flares, also delicious raw with carrots, both grated. On 04 Apr 2020, claude grayson wrote: true autumn weather now, cool nites and cold mornings,for us ,and either im getting softer or the cold has begun earlier,but i cant remember having morning fires in march.now into april and daylightsaving ended overnite,so 0600 temp was 6.2c hum 94% ,0500 temp5.2c clear sky,but the change to rain is coming.wednesday.any precip.is welcome as we are still in drought mode ,getting abt 40mm for march.so even the garden is dry below 50mm unless watered well.lucky we have a bore. On 04 Apr 2020, Rhys Jaggar wrote: Paddy, well aware of the Hungry Gap lol. I too am eating Lambs Lettuce for the first time this spring: one bunch an evening will last about a month (will run out in about a week). Still have three winter squashes to use up, plenty of parsley and chard to pick and rhubarb has been harvested since mid March. Looks like the spud harvest will finally be eaten in a week or so too. Ypu never know, the heat we are about to experience down here might send a few asparagus spears skyward. On 03 Apr 2020, Paddy, Aberdeen South, sub, 130m elevation wrote: 0˚C at 7.30, frosty but thawing quickly as the sun got higher, still a cold & mostly NW’ly wind but less strong, quite sunny again with a couple of light showers, max temp 11˚, wind gradually turning into the S, feeling milder with 5˚ at 9pm. == Rhys, it’s called the hungry gap, there is a kale of that name. We’re still eating forced chicory, leeks & lambs lettuce, though the latter is preparing to run to seed. On 03 Apr 2020, Rhys Jaggar wrote: Ron Interesting what you say about April. I actually sowed my garden in 2019 significantly later than usual and actually had a very good output. It does suggest that for many vegetable crops, a shift to a colder April may not have a huge effect if you sow a bit later. Last year I sowed lettuce indoors on 13th April, transplanted seedlings to the soil near month's end and was picking leaves by the 25th of May. What it does do though is slightly delay the first fresh harvests of the summer by a couple of weeks, meaning greater attention is needed to generating storable produce for April, May and early June. On 03 Apr 2020, Rhys Jaggar wrote: Well, we actually had a frost a couple of nights ago but it did not seem to damage the plum and pear flowering process. Now looking forward to a few days of warm spring temperatures from the weekend onward. There is a very interesting data plot at the SLF weekly avalanche update concerning depth of snow as a % of long term average plotted against alititude of individual station. Anything under 1600m is way below average and anything above 2200m is likely to be well above average. Does say that the distribution of snowfall is shifting upwards. Whether that actually affects the total water in storage or the time course of its release as snow melt is an entirely different question. On 02 Apr 2020, Paddy, Aberdeen South, sub, 130m elevation wrote: 6˚C at 7.30, quite sunny and calm but by 8.30 the NW’ly wind really got going and blew all day with some pretty strong gusts, max temp 11˚, mostly sunny with occasional shower clouds, even a bit of graupel, feeling hot in the sun sheltered from the wind but quite raw in exposed places, clear evening, 2˚ by 8.30pm. == Gerry, thanks for pointing out that Venus was in the Pleiades last night, I had a good look through the binoculars, pretty magic. On 02 Apr 2020, Paul (sub) SE UK wrote: An interesting forecast from "Don't Panic" on Pistonheads, which I fear may come true! lol >>>> https://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&f=205&t=1837911&i=3680 >>>> "I reckon within a very few months the usual suspects will have: A) Proven with peer reviewed papers via the 97 percenters that CV19 has a direct connection to a warming world; [and] B) Global temps will show a temporary halt and possible reversal coinciding with the lowered emissions of co2 corresponding to the CV19 planetwide lockdowns, all courtesy of some lightly massaged model data and thereby proving the link between human emissions and AGW!" ///// At least the High Pressure weather is nice and stable at the moment, an ideal time to be locked down indoors... lol On 02 Apr 2020, Ron Greer wrote: 'April is the cruelest month'. The cold/ warm oscillations predicted by GFS certainly might live up to that, especially a really severe looking PM outbreak 17th-18th April over the UK. However, that a long way out for GFS and past experience suggests it may go down the North Sea, just clipping the east coast--or even just disappear altogether! On 02 Apr 2020, Gerry 164ft Surrey-Kent border wrote: A change in the weather as the cold east and north-east wind has gone and more clouds have meant no frost overnight for the first time in about 2 weeks. Meanwhile the north of Norway has been hit with heavy snow causing many road closures. Unlikely to be a rare occurrence but given we are repeatedly told the Earth is currently super warm it seems odd. Well, it seems that Prof Ferguson of Imperial College and millions will die fame has used a 13 year old model for his virus prediction and is currently offering an excuse as to why he can't release information to other researchers. Where have we heard that sort of thing before? In contrast a survey from Oxford University will be providing their background information in the next few days. To me it still seems a bit odd it is not available now since they must have used it for their report. On 02 Apr 2020, Mark Hall wrote: M Lewis, Please be kind enough to run us through the severe ice ages our planet experienced when atmospheric CO2 was 5 and 10 times greater than today's levels. On 02 Apr 2020, M. Lewis wrote: Paul and Claude - what I was implying was that Classes of Animals come and go over millions of years on Planet Earth. Maybe simians time is up and its time for the saurians to start making a return. A warm tropical climate suits reptiles. Regarding Einstein, he wrote to Charles Hapgood the Geographer in support of his theory of Earth Crust Displacement. Caused by ice accumulation at the Poles whose massive weight then tips and moves the whole of Earth's outer crust. Hence Antarctica moved position and could have been in more temperate latitudes millions of years ago, rather than at the South Pole as it currently is. On 01 Apr 2020, Paul (sub) SE UK wrote: Now now, Mr Lewis - you didn't repeat the mantra contained later within that article... ;-) lol >>> "However, there is no doubt that the biggest factor leading to such a warm climate was the extremely high levels of CO2 in the atmosphere at that time. It is worth noting that if the current rate of CO2 increase continues (44ppm increase over past 20 years), we will reach a CO2 level greater than 1,000ppm in less than 300 years." On 01 Apr 2020, Paddy, Aberdeen South, sub, 130m elevation wrote: 6˚C at 7.30, sunny morning with a W’ly wind of increasing strength, cloudy during midday but then brightening and warming for the afternoon with a max temp of 14˚, the wind weakening all the while, still by evening, first quarter moon & Venus high in the sky, 7˚ by 9pm. == Gerry, check out the connection between the virus and 5G, Wuhan was the first city in the world to have full coverage, followed by Italy & Spain. On 01 Apr 2020, claude grayson wrote: another foggy morning,0600 temp 5.9 and dropping 97% hum. at least a good excuse for another fire,for the cat to sleep by.on a more serious topic ,they are saying tea is a cure for the virus,so if so has the gen pop of uk stopped drinking it. M Lewis,doesnt the Peri Reis map show Antarctica 7deg N of present lat.seem to recal an artical where Einstein was asked if the ice continued accumulating on Antrc.what would happen and he supposedly cal.that it could because it is off centre ,drag the crust around.. On 01 Apr 2020, M Lewis wrote: Most interesting article on BBC News about a warm Antarctica 90 million years ago. https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-52125369 Key Fact: to sustain the warmth these animals and the forests enjoyed, greenhouse gases in the atmosphere - like carbon dioxide - must have been three or four times current levels. If today the concentration of CO2 in the atmosphere is just above 400 parts per million (ppm), back then the figure was certainly above 1,000ppm and maybe as high as 1,600ppm. So a warm planet Earth suited saurians but not simians. On 01 Apr 2020, Gerry 164ft Surrey-Kent border wrote: Frosty start to the morning with frost still in the shade at 8.30 am. I could see the catkins dropping off the willow. For night sky watchers Venus and the Pleiades are in conjunction and is the best for 8 years. Iceagenow has a good piece looking at the truth about the virus in Italy and on WUWT Jim Steele is looking at the outbreak of polio in the 20s and 30s after having been dormant. The irony is that improving lifestyles had isolated the population form coming into contact with the virus and gaining immunity. The better off in society were worse hit before vaccines were developed. On 31 Mar 2020, Paddy, Aberdeen South, sub, 130m elevation wrote: 4˚C at 7.30, light but cold NW’ly wind, a bright day with quite a bit of sunshine & occasional light showers, max temp 12˚, clouding over more by evening, 6˚ at 9pm. On 31 Mar 2020, claude grayson wrote: seem to be copping a lot more cooler days, now well into autumn,cloudless nite so temp dropped to 6.3c just on sunrise.lots of low fog,that began as groundfog before 0530 and gradually expanded to7m tops and now is vanishing.wondered if maybe a quake was iminent as no birds were out and about till after 0730,well after daylight.the chooks are usually out clammering for their breaky before daylight ,so maybe they were too snug in bed.if only we knew what their birdbrain tunes into. On 31 Mar 2020, Rhys Jaggar wrote: Down in our village and using the local shops is vaguely resembling the Soviet Union in the 1970s. The Coop was shut at 10.15 to take deliveries and when I returned at opening time there was a 25 minute queue to get in due to social distancing and the choice was not exactly tip top. The butcher similarly did not have close to a normal range, but still enough to feed oneself. Not exactly modernity, is it? The garden is half covered with horticultural fleece after early sowings and transplantings. And the BBC is predicting -2C for us tonight, so we may see our first frost of this anticyclonic spell. On 31 Mar 2020, Gerry 164ft Surrey-Kent border wrote: It is a sweltering 53F on my patio at 2.30 pm with a blustery NE again after the calm of yesterday. Still better than the wild sleet storms of Sunday. To think I should have been out at a ploughing match. The frost has battered the magnolia and I hope unlike parts of Europe, my fruit tree blossom will survive although bees are probably few other than bumble bees. The extra hour is nice as can get lots more work done and there is no commuting time. Iceagenow has video of snow in Berlin and it is colder than average in Moscow. Oh just feel the desperation on spaceweather where a tiny cycle 25 sunspot has appeared and if it doesn't die it will get a number to be the 4th of cycle 25 and apparently the cycle is gaining steam. Meanwhile in reality we stand at 77% and 69 spotless days and only 35 short of the 2017 total. On 31 Mar 2020, Mark Hall wrote: And of course, this Neil Ferguson fellow has form in the field of flawed research. He was behind the mass culling of farm animals during the 2001 Foot and Mouth epidemic. Despite the fact that the Dutch and Danish farming industries had successfully used vaccine control in previous outbreaks, he preferred the excitement of slaughtering tens of millions of sheep and cattle. Costing billions of pounds. Before that debacle he modelled that up to 150 thousand would die from bovine spongiform encephalopathy, when the actual numbers ran in at fewer than 200. The commercial destruction that this alarmist nutjob has instigated over the past few decades is astounding. He makes the climate junkies look like complete amateurs. On 31 Mar 2020, Mark Hall wrote: Paul, Sorry mate, but after subjecting myself to 3 hours of that Select Committee last week, I cross contaminated my notes. Ferguson said that they based their original recommendations on early data from China suggesting 20% of those infected would end up in critical care. Obviously this was way off the mark, but the subsequent 0.1% figure was from Gupta's Oxford Team. Not from a vague, dissembling Ferguson with his bag of caveats and excuses. What is clear is that SAGE was dominated by modellers and behaviourists, who ignored evidence of a large asymptomatic community and downplayed the role of serological surveys to prove this. Knowledge wise they were blind and guessing, but they decided to throw the kitchen sink at it anyway. He is now saying that a half to two thirds of victims would have died in the near future anyway due to poor health. Their most recent mortality figure is now one third of our annual influenza deaths. Just seven times the annual fatalities from stair falls. On 31 Mar 2020, Maria (Ireland sub) wrote: The schools closed here on the 11th a day after my last post and for the last 2 and a bit weeks we have literally been outside every day as much as poss in between school work. The idea being to have clean hands cleanish house then go out n get grubby, also to start downloading work podcasts ect then go outside while the internet catches up and learn by practical application (the kids saying I just want the garden work done quicker 👀, we have played too :-) I think they did a fab job at helping build a cheap plastic on wood greenhouse with a gravel base off the back of the garage and south facing too so the seeds are loving it, our son enjoyed it and his first project through to the end so he had a sense of chuffed too. Really spot on Piers forecast as knew we could get it done before it cooled again so the plastic went on warm and now no more trays and pots all over the tunnel path to trip on with the tiny one who has become chief waterer. 🌱 On 30 Mar 2020, Paddy, Aberdeen South, sub, 130m elevation wrote: 4˚C at 7.30, sunny morning with a fresh NNW’ly wind which kept going all day, clouds rolling in after midday but we still had a max temp of 14˚ and quite a few sunny spells during the afternoon, mostly cloudy evening, 6˚ at 9pm. On 30 Mar 2020, Rhys Jaggar wrote: M Lewis I would be surprised if they did, unless they provide habitable accommodation or pay enough that short-term rentals are economically viable. If you are Bulgarian and you sent home £50 a month, within 6 months, you have a 10% deposit on a nice house and garden back home. You think UK residents can compete with that? On 30 Mar 2020, M Lewis wrote: Interesting piece on BBC Countryfile last night. UK farmers will be short of seasonal fruit and veg pickers this summer to work in the fields harvesting, due to closure of borders from Europe. I wonder whether the office workers from the cities and airline crews can lend a hand? It would keep them fit and they would get fresh air and exercise in the process! On 29 Mar 2020, claude grayson wrote: our temp hovered above 11/12c most of nite then dropped to a L of 8 abt 0530. 4k wind now a brisk 20ksE so coolish.Had a look at geonet cameras and more snow has fallen on the main Nth Is Mtns,so abt 2 wks early. the quip here is ' snow in may doesnt stay ,snow in june is snow too soon,' so will be interested to see if we get another cold winter like a few years back where the ski fields had a 4m base before july and were still open into Nov.tho they lost days to too much snow. On 29 Mar 2020, Paddy, Aberdeen South, sub, 130m elevation wrote: 2˚C at 7.30, overcast with a sharp N’ly wind, overcast for most of the day with only occasional sunny periods, max temp 8˚, feeling wintery in spite of the bursting buds of some trees like hawthorn and bird cherry, 2˚ by 9pm. On 29 Mar 2020, Rhys Jaggar wrote: Planted out my first and second early potatoes this morning. It always gives a good indication of soil health. This year: the soil is wonderfully structured, full of moisture and worms and put 41 tubers into the ground took a princely 10 minutes. Also sowed 5 rows of turnips, 23 clumps of parsnips, 49 stations of Amsterdam carrots, two 1m rows of radish and put 84 onion sets into modules to sprout over the next 10 days. Covered everything bar the spuds over with fleece after watering them in and we shall see what emerges by the end of April. First cloudy afternoon here for a long time: the wind from the NE has covered us with clouds and it was pretty brisk this morning, blowing over my jug for measuring rainfall (despite it having around 50mm of water in it before the gust that dispensed the record all over the patio). April 1st I will be cooking my mother a birthday lunch, as all pubs and restaurants are closed down. On 29 Mar 2020, Gerry Surrey-Kent border 164ft wrote: Well it would seem the prediction for the UK is now 5700 deaths from our friend Ferguson. To claim it is the virtual house arrest introduced is wrong as the effect of that wouldn't be showing up. In tune with Rhys, Peter Hitchens column today notes all the responses he received from last week's challenge to the panic. None argue on facts but just give abuse. The nuber that support him include NHS staff who have reservations about what is being done. He also notes that the virus will be the cause of death if it is detected but it may not have caused the death. Pneumonia finishes off many sick people but it was not the real reason. Will we ever get an honest inquiry into this? When is a government inquiry ever honest? Wind a blustery northerly today and it is still cold outside even in the sun. Electroverse notes a big cold plunge for Europe with snow. That site does use GFS though. On 28 Mar 2020, Paddy, Aberdeen South, sub, 130m elevation wrote: 4˚C at 7.30, quite sunny with a sharp N’ly wind, clouding over soon after with rain and then light snow showers throughout the day, occasionally brilliantly sunny with impressive looking cumulus clouds, overcast by night time, 2˚ by 8.30pm. == Rhys, I don’t know what I would be called if I participated in any other blog than this one, life is too short and I spend enough time watching what is going on in the US, come Trump’s reelection in November we will see huge positive changes. What with the massaged, opaque CV figures it seems to me that this is the last desperate attempt of the Deep State to defeat the huge house cleaning that is happening. On 28 Mar 2020, claude grayson wrote: ? why do we always use ave. yes i see the point from some aspects,but if you only use aves then really cold spells are smothered as too heatwaves. maybe we would be better to compare just the no of above 20 deg,and below say 2deg days or similar to get the truer pic of where the climate is going. Even then each month may need to be compared to reveal how the seasons are changing. To me aves.fudge the picture,and the same seems to happen in most of science , even dendrology.but then the media dont want to show the true pic .do they just the PC one .must keep the masses ignorant. On 28 Mar 2020, Gerry Surrey-Kent border 164ft wrote: Mark, nobody left-wing ever apologises for anything because they always believe they are right and even when they are wrong it was for the right reasons. Think of the things lefties have done that if a Tory had done them it would be a big scandal, and that is even with the left-wing Tories we now have. I suppose old habits of the left-wing media die hard. Wind from the NE today and quite blustery. A bit of cloud has come in and it is still cold. My gas use has been dropping each week but I can see that last year at this time it kicked up for two weeks. Looking like it might be the same this year . The GWPF have suggested all green taxes are halted for the time being. Can't see the government running with that as if you took away the taxes that make electricity 40% more expensive the generally ill-informed public are going to notice and might finally ask a few questions. On 28 Mar 2020, Rhys Jaggar wrote: Paddy I am now officially a 'child torturer' according to one of the luminaries contributing to Craig Murray's blog. Amongst other things. I am also apparently a climate denier, a Trump supporter, and quite a few more unmentionables. I also 'have a closed mind' according to one of those projecting their own closed mind onto m (they are closed to all possibilities that CoVid19 is engineered panic with a bit of death along the way). I really do not care. I know none of them, do not seek their validation, am increasingly concluding that trying to educate them is a waste of time. On 27 Mar 2020, Paddy, Aberdeen South, sub, 130m elevation wrote: 6˚C at 7.30, overcast & drizzly with a light and cold N’ly breeze, dry later with a max temp of 10˚, clouds slowly thinning after 4pm leaving a bright and cold end to the day, 2˚ at 9pm, spectacular young moon with Venus directly above it at some distance, creating a remarkably strong light in the dark night sky. == Rhys, excellent measured article by Dr Lee. Try this one https://tinyurl.com/rvdteeu And here is a short article on Ferguson https://tinyurl.com/rcw5kux, compare the forecast of deaths he’s made with what he’s saying now. And check out the new laws parliament has voted in, reminds one of the USSR where dissidents were locked up in mental institutions, could include all of us on this blog. On 27 Mar 2020, Paul (sub) SE UK wrote: @Mark - Would you have a link to those 20% / 0.1% figures? I found a link to the Covid19 reports from Imperial (https://www.imperial.ac.uk/mrc-global-infectious-disease-analysis/news--wuhan-coronavirus/) but nothing obvious on the change in figures! ////// On the weather front, it looks like Piers' predictions about a clear, mild, dry last week have been bang-on, and the BBC are now saying exactly the same as predicted for next week - cold, northerly, maybe snow! On 27 Mar 2020, claude grayson wrote: always interesting reading abt your weather in the Northern hemi. colder for longer. so often ive met folks from uk who say our winter is like your summer and going by your data probably not far wrong.but weather is all realitive and we acclimatize quite rapidly,to the new norm. my dad was born in yorkshire in 1913 and said how most kids went to school in the snow in bare feet. as for those wallys who do modelling ,they are so optimistic,pessimistic and soooo wrong most times.does anyone take them seriously except the out of touch polititians and media. down here we are heading into a cool spell 6.8 low o/n and 4days of E or S forecast so early morning fires all weekend. On 27 Mar 2020, Mark Hall wrote: Rhys, Paddy, Gerry, That Imperial guy Neil Ferguson is some prize specimen, isn't he? Rowing back on his modelling of 20% of infections requiring critical care, he said yesterday that it would be just 0.1% instead. No problems at all with the discrepancy. No apologies. Everything was in order. We thought all these nutjobs were working in the field of climate science. But they're everywhere. He's the Michael Mann of the Disease Control policy wonks, but his hockey stick wasn't made from a bad batch of bristle coned pine. It was made of attention-seeking sensationalist bullshit. On 27 Mar 2020, Rhys Jaggar wrote: Paddy Try: https://archive.fo/oz2IN#selection-563.0-563.8 Finally some sense from, of course, a recently RETIRED pathologist. No chance of a practicing medic escaping from group think without the sack. On 26 Mar 2020, Paddy, Aberdeen South, sub, 130m elevation wrote: 6˚C at 7.30, overcast all day with a markedly cool N’ly breeze, in our tunnels the strengthening sun was making quite a difference though, outside max temp was 11˚, occasional barely perceptible drizzle, 6˚ at 9pm. == Rhys, yes indeed. There are 2 viruses: Corona and Fear, whipped up by the mostly sensationalist media, the latter travelling faster and further than the former. Here is a very different take on the whole story https://www.cellphonetaskforce.org/wp-content/uploads/2020/03/Is-the-Sky-Really-Falling.pdf On 26 Mar 2020, Gerry 164ft Surrey-Kent border wrote: Frosty every morning for a while now as we have the cold easterly wind which has picked up quite a bit this morning after 2 calmer days. The warmth of the sun now is keeping the house warm. Wunderground has this weather continuing for another week which I hope is right as I am halfway through re-felting my shed roof. with the lockdown I can't get anymore felt delivered until next Thursday. On 26 Mar 2020, Mark Hall wrote: Rhys, Ron, In my neck of East Hertfordshire we've just had a run of 5 straight frosts. Not that the land was hard as iron and water like a stone, but frosty no less, first thing in the blue mornings. On 26 Mar 2020, Rhys Jaggar wrote: David What the Government has NOT been doing is blasting the media for totally over the top fearmongering about deaths, nor telling Imperial College modellers that they are charlatans, nor cautioning their CMO about saying that 250-500,000 deaths were likely, now radically reduced to 20,000 (was it ever different?) The scaremongering is destroying the economy and not one of the government will be losing one single pound in pay, the biggest scandal of the 21st century to date. All the media should be forcibly without pay for 6 months to teach them what that means. It is the only way to teach those criminals how to behave responsibly, something they are totally incapable of doing. On 26 Mar 2020, Rhys Jaggar wrote: Ron, cannot comment on Scotland, you are obviously significantly cooler than us down here in NW London, but we have not had frosts this week when the BBC said we would, so I suppose sods law says that when they say we will be frost free that the freezes will occur lol? Here they are saying nights of 2 - 4C and days of 8-11C for around 5 days, then getting warmer again (although that might just be saying 'we have no clue, so put up the average temps for the season') On 25 Mar 2020, Paddy, Aberdeen South, sub, 130m elevation wrote: 8˚C at 7.30, overcast and less windy than yesterday, a smell of spring in the air, max temp 14˚, remaining cloudy, 7˚ at 9pm. Appreciating the fact that it is so dry. On 25 Mar 2020, David (Yorkshire) wrote: Does look a bit nippy at the weekend. On coronavirus, it is not a conspiracy and overall the government is going a good job under the circumstances they dont and wont have the answer or solution to everything. The advice is clear but unfortunately some lack common sense. On 25 Mar 2020, Ron Greer wrote: RHYS: are you sure that we'll have two weeks of frost-free weather, not withstanding the northerlies/easterlies coming up from this weekend. GFS for much of the first week of April also looks like very sharp Polar Maritime air over the UK. On 25 Mar 2020, Gerry 164ft Surrey-Kent border wrote: Oops, word 'can't' missing from last post Mark. I trust no government at any level, and I work for part of it! It was sad when even my parish council was due to discuss the imaginary 'climate crisis'. If only all the money wasted on global warming had been spent in preparation for something like this we would not be having the current panic. My director this week suggested this situation might last for a year! Having decided not to test properly the government is clueless as to numbers and why weren't spaces commandeered as emergency treatment centres earlier to keep virus cases away from hospitals. At least the food panic seems to be easing although my local farm shop is fully stocked. On 25 Mar 2020, Rhys Jaggar wrote: Ah, Mark, but the economy will not be wrecked for any cash-rich multinationals, as they will have wiped out the competition and can then start charging monopolist prices for super-profits. Assuming the 20 million they have made unemployed have any salary to buy their products I guess. I predict disintermediation in food supply will expand greatly after this recession. The sun setting on 'supermarkets' being food outlets. On 25 Mar 2020, Mark Hall wrote: Gerry, What Government figure do you trust? The Chief Scientific Advisor has suggested both 500 thousand deaths and 250 thousand deaths and down to 20 thousand if we, in the vernacular of Tropic Thunder, go full retard on this cold virus. It's more likely to be under 10 thousand if you look at the mortality curves in other countries. That will work out at £30 million per victim and a wrecked economy. On 24 Mar 2020, Paddy, Aberdeen South, sub, 130m elevation wrote: 7˚C at 7.30, overcast and still a strong SSW’ly wind, sun coming out in early afternoon and warming up to 14˚, warmest so far this year, cloudy again by evening but still 8˚ at 9pm. On 24 Mar 2020, claude grayson wrote: we we got the snow.mt ruapehu caught a bit above 2500m by the camera shots.weve been down to 8c yesterday and 7.8 today.good excuse to have a fire so the plants have a bit of food. re sunspots check out Valentina Zharkova on Youtube video.her speciality. we are only cycle 25 ,and she thinks 27 will be coldest, if it keeps to cycle patten. On 24 Mar 2020, Gerry 164ft Surrey-Kent border wrote: A very disappointed sounding Spaceweather noting that spotless days continue to come despite a recent new cycle sunspot.The solar disk is running blank for a month at a time and currently stands at 76% blank compared to 2019 77%. After the peak in 2009 spotless collapsed to 51 days and 14% - we are already at 64 days before the end of March! I find their definition of the Space Age only going back to 2006 rather amusing. At least with being stuck at home the weather is nice and there is warmth in the sun to prevent the need for heating during the day. My conservatory and summer house get sun all day. It is amazing how much it is drying out now with the wind and sun combination although the wind has dropped away from the weekend. Having to rely on the legacy media to inform us about the virus is not good given their complete incompetence. and you certainly trust the governments or their figures. The Netherlands faked their figures during the egg-salmonella crisis to spare egg producers On 24 Mar 2020, Rhys Jaggar wrote: Mark Hall: I am expecting the police around any day to charge me with 'recycling all the neighbours' green waste for 12 months', since it is now a crime to create compost from local waste. It is essential that the council green waste vehicles keep burning carbon you see, as there is money to be made in recycled waste and I am stopping them making it. They may even charge me with 'harassing old women' for letting them use my spare flower seedlings for their own gardens. I had the temerity to drop my neighbours a note saying 'do you want any of the following plants?' and they felt obliged to say 'Yes Please!' They were so abused that they actually wrote me a note in a nice card, because you only do that to revolting men, eh? I even expect a summons to court to answer charges of 'pruning fruit trees without a license', as investing £50 in an arborists' saw to save my elderly parents £50 a year in paying someone else to do it is clearly spreading CoVid19, would you not say? On 23 Mar 2020, Paddy, Aberdeen South, sub, 130m elevation wrote: 3˚C at 7.30, overcast all day with a strong and cold S’y wind, 8˚ max temp nevertheless, soil drying significantly, still blowing at 9pm with a temp of 7˚, feeling much milder. On 23 Mar 2020, claude grayson wrote: just going out the door to last work before the country goes into lockdown,and saw the temp had droped 3C since 0600 to 8C ,so looked at 3 day forcast and they are saying it will be cold enough for snow on the Sth Is high ground.Will see.can got fresh snow on MT Ruapehu late march ,but usually mid to late april. On 23 Mar 2020, Mark Hall wrote: How dare you Rhys Jaggar! They have been digging pits of despair for people like you and you refuse to jump in. Gardeners don't care about the planet. On 23 Mar 2020, Rhys Jaggar wrote: Perfect weather for the next fortnight to grow young vegetables under fleece: the cool nights will not kill them, the pleasant wall to wall spring sunshine will grow them. IT IS THE END OF THE WORLD! MY RADISHES AND PEAS ARE DOING WELL! WE ARE EATING RHUBARB AND SPRING CABBAGE! ANDCHARD! Parsnip, early carrots, first early potatoes, turnips all to be sown this week. Beetroot to be transplanted out, along with peas for pods. Onions, shallots and leeks in their tubs are perking up nicely in the sunshine and starting to stand up rather than lolling around. Do send Greta to see my spring garden: quite appalling that the prospects for a perfect growing season are upon us. Moisture to depth, surface soil drying out so roots will grow downward, nice spring sunshine and after tomorrow, no prospect of frosts for 10 days. On 22 Mar 2020, Paddy, Aberdeen South, sub, 130m elevation wrote: 2˚C at 7.30, sunny with a SW’ly wind blowing strongly all day along with the sunshine, max temp 11˚, sown to 4˚ by 9.30pm. == Mark Hall: it’s all about trying to get rid of Trump because he put a spanner in all their works. However, it appears to be having the opposite effect :-) Rhys: you might well be right, time will tell. On 22 Mar 2020, Rhys Jaggar wrote: How ironic that just as Scottish ski centres have some of the best conditions in years, they all shut down after a winter where little opening was possible before Mid-February. Anyone would think that the aim was to let private equity vultures swoop to get their hands on UK assets? On 22 Mar 2020, Mark Hall wrote: About 800 people die each year from falling down the stairs. By establishment logic we they should have trashed our economy a long time ago to deal with this. Long-term we would have been looking at removing all stairways, but in the meantime banning the use of stairways would be necessary. We could have spunked a lot more money on this than the £300 billion that has been allocated to the cold virus panic. Seriously though, this whole overreaction must serve some ulterior motive. They never ever considered closing down a country like Italy because of 68000 annual influenza deaths, but were good to go with 4000 Corona deaths. For me it is too much of a coincidence that the central banks are losing control of interest rates, a sovereign bond collapse is underway in Europe and all the banks there are insolvent. A couple of weeks ago the Federal Reserve pumped $1.5 trillion into the Repo market, because the banks stopped lending to each other. This virus came along at the right time. On 21 Mar 2020, Paddy, Aberdeen South, sub, 130m elevation wrote: 3˚C at 7.30, overcast, cold SE’ly wind blowing all day and slowly shifting into the S, mostly cloudy with occasional sunshine, max temp 8˚; this feels like a HP situation that could go on for some time, speaking from past experience, 4˚ by 9pm. On 21 Mar 2020, Rhys Jaggar wrote: In one of the more laughable episodes recently: https://wattsupwiththat.com/2020/03/20/wuhan-coronavirus-therapies-scientific-background/#comment-2943097 is an attempt by WUWT to claim they know about biochemistry and drugs. The article claims that adenosine is an amino acid!! And tons of commenters BTL are saying what a wonderful article it all is. First year undergraduate biochemistry students learn that adenosine is a precursor to RNA, it being an adenine side chain linked to a ribose molecule. It has nothing at all to do with amino acid biochemistry. It is interesting how WUWT suppresses my always within the rules comments, presumably as I oppose mass murder, coups sponsored by the US abroad and possibly think that the USA is not a superior nation on earth. They have suppressed me pointing out the crass ignorance of that article. They have not suppressed the ignorant morons who think the article is full of accurate pronouncements. On 21 Mar 2020, Rhys Jaggar wrote: Craig The BBC forecast for NW London is for two nights of frost this week, although it might not happen, the quoted minima being -1C not -5C. All in all, the forecast is for mild sunny days and cool clear nights. I transplanted out my first radish modules and Alderman peas for shoots yesterday and they are under 30gsm horticultural fleece. We shall see how they come through the chilly nights. Comfrey plants are clearly growing now, suggesting a first cut in period 15 - 25th April (range here has been 10th April to 1st May the past decade) and first rhubarb harvested last week. Nature is waking up normally. On 20 Mar 2020, @CraigM350, Sub Berks 51N wrote: Colin - please re enter your comment in the Science + Politics thread === http://www.weatheraction.com/displayarticle.asp?a=842&c=5 === and don't forget to use an email address. // Weather has been non descript bar yesterday's all day drizzle. Now cold in the wind but no frosts for a while now. Does look settled going ahead. Certainly some cold options going forward in the models but nothing of significance as yet. Keep safe all. On 20 Mar 2020, Paddy, Aberdeen South, sub, 130m elevation wrote: -2˚C at 7.30, the sun melting the frost quickly, remarkable how much heat/warmth it has gained just over the last couple of weeks, almost still to begin with but then a light and cold NNW’ly breeze all day, changing into the SE by evening, quite sunny for most of the day with a max temp of 11˚, clouding over by evening with only a few stars visible now and again, 4˚ by 8.30pm. == Ron, we haven’t had anything like the frost in your parts and most of it only in the last few weeks with signs of frost heave on any bare ground; I don’t particularly remember 1986, more 1980/81. Yes, equinox early this morning, soon time to get shorts & teeshirt out, NOT :-) On 20 Mar 2020, Ron Greer wrote: The GFS prediction of a week ago for a chilly equinoctial weekend has turned out to be very accurate ( for once) and now we have a classic HP scenario with spring easterlies. One of the 'joys' here is a run of sharp frosts requiring a daily inspection and replanting of frost-heaved tree seedlings. The worst I've experienced since 1986. On 19 Mar 2020, Paddy, Aberdeen South, sub, 130m elevation wrote: -1˚C overnight, 2˚ at 7.30 with the sun rapidly thawing any frost, light NW’ly wind all day but pleasantly warm in the sun, 12˚ max temp, quite a bit of cloud from time to time but overall a bright day, cloudy evening but with holes in the cloud cover showing some stars, notably a very bright Venus in the western sky, 5˚ at 8.30pm. == Craig, great video by James Corbett, maybe I was a bit overoptimistic when I said the XRse kids are crawling back to mummy :-) On 19 Mar 2020, Rhys Jaggar wrote: California has finally had another 4ft of snow after a really dry winter means they may have water shortages this summer. Very rare that Mammoth Mountain records under 200 inches snow for a season, this season's total is 174 currently, the third lowest in 51 years of data. Go north to Mt Baker is Washington state and things are very different. Lots of snow high up in the European alps, so no water shortages there. Scotland has plenty of snow this year, I would suspect that Norway has absolutely masses. The Arctic Ice is really regenerating but temperate latitudes have been very, very mild. Whatever happens, the warmists will cry Armageddon. It is now about time to start linking up the weather patterns across wide spaces so people can understand the implications of one weather regime on their own one. On 19 Mar 2020, claude grayson wrote: Piers, in solectrics would the massive amount of emf we produce,by all the means weve invented ,have any effect on the influence of either the solar,lunar or planetry effect on earth .ie would it cancel out some influence,or could it increase,and thereby we have caused some disasters attrubuted to CC.? On 18 Mar 2020, Paddy, Aberdeen South, sub, 130m elevation wrote: 2˚C at 7.30, sunny and almost still, SW’ly wind getting up a bit, quite sunny for a lot of the time, max temp 9˚, dry all day, 2k at 9pm. Grungy Greta seems to have disappeared from the news cycle, so here’s a positive aspect to the virus saga, look on the bright side, and the middle class kids of XR have crawled back to their parents. Not funny for all the small businesses though. Soap, courage and a well developed sense of humour are the main elements we need to through this. On 18 Mar 2020, @CraigM350, Sub Berks 51N wrote: Paul - can't answer but something I've been pondering with all the global shutdowns and satellite images of places such as Wuhan & Italy with reduced pollution - if we do start noticeably cooling over the next year or so (even with data tampering), this will be confirmation that CO2 is the thermostat (never mind they said even of we stop completely now it may still be too late). If there is a silver lining it is that some of these misanthropes are showing their true despicable colours to the world and we will remember. I say some because even true fanatics like Eric Holthaus said "To be clear: Coronavirus causing mass death and reduced emissions is not something to cheer. That's eco-fascism." They don't care about others, only an agenda, a perverse ideology. A good reminder why revolutions are so bloody because if these mindsets. Never let something consume you to such a degree that you lose your humanity. === https://bit.ly/3904HBv On 18 Mar 2020, Paul (sub) SE UK wrote: The internet appears to be saying that global and domestic air travel is down anywhere from 5% to 90% due to Coronavirus - will be interesting to see if the weather noticeably changes with such a reduction in atmospheric emissions. I recall reading that the lack of planes during/after 9/11 reduced 'global dimming' of sunlight, which would seem to suggest that flying reduces the alleged global warming... which would be inconvenient for the anti-movement ecomentalists, lol. (I may be recalling incorrectly, of course!) On 18 Mar 2020, Ron Greer wrote: RHYS: Aye, quite a snow pack in the Western Grampians with ongoing 'snow on hills ' forecasts adding more. I noted on a return trip to Aviemore last Saturday, the heavy cover on the Drumochter hills and especially Ben Alder, well up to 2010 and 2015 levels On 17 Mar 2020, Paddy, Aberdeen South, sub, 130m elevation wrote: 3˚C at 7.30, SW’ly wind all day again, not as strong as yesterday, quite a bit of cloud but also bright spells with a max temp of 13˚, there is a definite change in the air, sweet smell of growing grass even at night, 5˚ by 9pm and calmer. == Impressive pics, Rhys, so different from our part of Scotland. On 17 Mar 2020, Rhys Jaggar wrote: Some nice pictures of Creagh Meaghaidh 'never seeing snow again' on the following blog: http://meagaidhblog.sais.gov.uk/2020/03/walkin-the-dog/ What might be called pretty impressive winter garb...... On 17 Mar 2020, Rhys Jaggar wrote: Gerry 'Expertise' is very subjective. It is imperative that you define what 'experts' are actually 'expert' in. I worked doing due diligence on early stage technology transfer/seedcorn VC funding for a few years and it was clear to me that many 'experts' were expert in a narrow area of science but not expert in business. I was 'expert' in certain areas of cancer research but I am not equally expert in areas of cardiology. Virologists may not be expert epidemiologists and computer modellers can come up with whatever answer you want just by changing a few parameter values in the model assumptions. My view is that scientists most often do reductionist science, whereas the real world has complex holistic open systems in play. Knowing everything about how to alter the tissue range of a coronavirus does not mean you are also expert in quantitative disease evolution modelling. Finally, you should ask who the experts serve. Do not assume they serve us.... On 17 Mar 2020, claude grayson wrote: Paul,as one CC/GW non believer said,''Isn;t it strange that all the big things that are signs of GW happen to be in places most people can never see to check" or words to that effect.ie poles shrinking,etc. On 17 Mar 2020, Gerry Surrey-Kent border 164ft wrote: Experts - one of the biggest problems we face. People tend to believe experts as they have prestige and often lots of letters after their names. But, experts tell us we are causing global warming with a consensus of experts while there are also some extremely good and better experts who say it is not true. Which brings us to Covid-19 and who do you believe. If you express some doubt about advice given some will say 'who are you to question an expert?' Dr North is qualified in environmental health and was working during the salmonella in eggs, listeria in soft cheese and BSE scares. In all 3 the expert view was it was happening. Dr North was one of the very few to point out that there was no evidence that any of them were true and was proven to be correct after much damage to peoples' livelihoods. There was also the needless burning of millions of livestock during the 2001 foot & mouth outbreak. So experts can be drastically wrong. Why? On 17 Mar 2020, Paul (sub) SE UK wrote: The end of the world is nigh! lol: https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/stories-51857722 ///// While I think getting back to nature more regularly and growing your own makes sense, portraying the near-future as a Walking Dead-esque nightmare of desperate survival probably isn't realistic.... ///// In other news, I am struggling to reconcile the icecap / glacier reports - electroverse says they are growing, others say they are shrinking, so it is hard to confirm the actuality! The large increase in northern hemisphere snow shown on electroverse is interesting, though - how can that be in the Fireball Earth period we are apparently living in?! On 16 Mar 2020, Paddy, Aberdeen South, sub, 130m elevation wrote: -1˚C at 7.30, strong SW’ly wind from the start, beefing up in the afternoon, mostly cloudy with occasional bright spells, max temp 9˚, dropping to 5˚ by 8.30pm. On 16 Mar 2020, claude grayson wrote: Piers, any solar or lunar contributing factors down here in Wellington area that may trigger a big earthquake.Have been following the latest small quakes and there are many up and down the country but none on the Wellington fault.Maybe its stuck. Had a 5.1, 10 k deep ,10k NW of culverden yesterday and a few smaller,but they are all either side of Welly. On 16 Mar 2020, claude grayson wrote: 17 03 20. TC Gretel is fizzling out and basicly missed. Rainradar shows a bit of wet stuff in parts but not enough to stop the drought .the whole Nth Is and much of Sth has been declared a drought.we get a splash of rain occasionally then wind or sun or both and the plants just get teased.getting a bit of wind from the tail gusting round 30k + from the E so wind chilling the 13/14d C. On 16 Mar 2020, Ron Greer wrote: I note that GFS are going for quite a chilly equinoctial weekend and east winds too boot. BUT as we know, it can do 180 degree turn. On 16 Mar 2020, Gerry Surrey-Kent border 164ft wrote: While Claude comments that the ice caps are going to melt according to one report, iceagenow has a link to a report on a 3rd icebreaker being sent to the aid of the second icebreaker that was sent to supply the first icebreaker, if you are still with me. Polarstern got itself stuck in the ice deliberately so that it could carru out research on what happens in the Arctic as they don't have that information. But you might well ask, isn't all the science settled? And as conditions were not quite what they expected - as in hardly any ice presumably - the Polarstern needed assistance. Hence the first icebreaker sent to help. But having then got stuck, it needed help. So we have another hilarious saga to add to all the others where there has been too much ice. On 15 Mar 2020, Paddy, Aberdeen South, sub, 130m elevation wrote: 4˚C at 7.30, strong SW’ly wind and quite cloudy but dry for the morning, showers setting in by midday with sunny spells in between, by which time the wind gradually shifted into the NW, max temp 11˚, clear starry evening, 3˚ at 9pm. On 15 Mar 2020, out_east wrote: Luckily went skiing last weekend. I wasn't to know it would be the LAST CHANCE. Ski was superb, bright sun, good quality snow, truly wonderful, had an argument with some global warming Loony from England who insisted on the usual garbage about species all going exctinct, and even claimed the antarctic was melting (has been gaining ice/snow mass for decades). Now the new garbage arrived with the mass media hysteria going into crazy-drive about the COVID, closed borders, closed all alpine ski resorts, confine people to their houses et al. So, YES last weekend was the LAST ski weekend of this season, it was great! I wasn't to know, but despite almost 4.5m of it at Val Thorens, the president of France is more concerned about holding his fake elections than letting people go into the fresh sunshine - alpine air. What's to be done? A sign of things to come? Once you got 60 million to obey a diktat, for a banal virus next time will be easy! Let's just remember this date:- ma On 15 Mar 2020, Ron Greer wrote: I see the MeteoBeeb forecast is coming into line with the one GFS has been showing for several days. Nice sunny periods at times, but looks quite nippy for Scotland and the snowpack should remain. On 14 Mar 2020, Paddy, Aberdeen South, sub, 130m elevation wrote: Friday was a mostly sunny day again but with a cool NNW’ly breeze, gradually turning into the E. Today, 4˚C at 7.30, light rain carrying on from overnight and then all day off & on, mostly S’y wind and grey all day, max temp 8˚, raining again by evening, 6˚ by 9pm. == Ron, we’ve not had it that bad here but there has also been some heave, we have no tree seedlings in the ground, just doing some plantings, about 150 trees to go in, mostly home-grown from seed Norway spruce. Prunus mahaleb flowering nicely this year, though the bullfinches are also having their part. On 14 Mar 2020, Rhys Jaggar wrote: Very early opening of pear blossom structures this spring: with a few nights close to freezing next week, it could be nip and tuck if they will get damaged or not. Finally looks like we will get a week of dryish weather with some sunshine, some warm days and coldish nights. Just nicely timed for the soil to be ready to be planted up with early sowings around the equinox. On 14 Mar 2020, Ron Greer wrote: PADDY: been my worst season yet for frost heave of seedlings. Think it may be due to wet weather followed by periodic frosts. On 13 Mar 2020, claude grayson wrote: 14/03/20.nz time 0600 6.8c 94%h calm ,misty and a beautiful low ground fog a km in the distance.the best autumn weather. yesterdays hi of 23c was tempered by a cool Easterly . On 12 Mar 2020, Paddy, Aberdeen South, sub, 130m elevation wrote: 0˚C at 7.30 but not as frosty as recently, yet another mostly sunny day - we had an email from a friend in Brittany who says that they’ve had nothing but almost daily rain since September! - W’ly wind to begin with, gradually turning into the NNW, max temp 9˚, down to 3˚ by 9pm. == Maria, definitely a good idea to keep ventilation going in the tunnel over winter, winter lettuces can stand that. We can’t do them out of doors here, just too cold. We’ve been eating forced chicory all winter, a bit of a thing to set up but so nice and crunchy. On 12 Mar 2020, claude grayson wrote: OH WOW we are going to drown..just looked at oue local news and the headline re both ice caps melting at unprecedented rate .from 1992-2017. as always ,selective data why not to 2019.?. thats a rise of 17 8 mm in 25 y 0.7mm /y. did anyone notice? On 12 Mar 2020, claude grayson wrote: yesterdays Low 4.2 @ 0721. hi 19.4 13/03/20 0520 L7.8....0600 L 8.8 Hum 94% calm looked at Nasa NWS art.on sunspots and they begrudginly admit that sunspots may affect the weather. interestingly they link maunder min.with volcanics,and earths axis tilt.. On 12 Mar 2020, Ron Greer wrote: just finished the last comment, when the mini-snowplough from the Council started to clear and grit the pavements. Well done Perth and Kinross Council. On 12 Mar 2020, Ron Greer wrote: Another classic Xmas card scene this morning, here at 140 metres in Highland Perthshire. On 11 Mar 2020, Maria (Ireland sub) wrote: Well the journal went by the by the last 2 & a bit weeks and have totally lost track of noting the weather, all I know is any remotely non wet windows I've been hitting the garden jobs and using compost I made to get on the first beds to grow and then in the tunnel to crop overwinter crops and start the first sowings, actually have some chilli plants up from Feb sowing and just about to tuck into some fab looking valdor lettuces, they survived the tunnel only lost a few as kept the ventilation as good as could. Pinch me March already! looking like a lateish spring despite a couple of super bursts even a little warm last week, back to cold wind and sleety now feels like winter again still early days of spring. Rhys I'm guessing it's your article I just recently read on quickcrop.ie about tomatoes a good read :) Paddy you must have too much wine :-) On 11 Mar 2020, Paddy, Aberdeen South, sub, 130m elevation wrote: 4˚C at 7.30, strong & raw SW’ly wind, sunny for most of the day with a max temp of 10˚, dense stratus cloud by evening, much less wind and 2˚ by 8.30pm. == Virus dinner etiquette update: if you’re invited, don’t bring flowers, chocolate or wine, bring toilet paper :-) On 11 Mar 2020, claude grayson wrote: teaser weather lately,just enough spots of rain to wet the ground,then wind to dry it up,and now no rain forcast till at least next weekend .winds have changed ti SE for next days,so temps dropped .0600 5.4c 0700 4.5c so autumn well here now.but most of Nth Is in drought. On 11 Mar 2020, Ron Greer wrote: After a brief thaw, which didn't disturb the snow-pack too much the sleety rain this morning turned to snow showers down to 140 metres and the hills are covered again. Wonder if Covid 19 will allow the skiers to enjoy it, though? On 11 Mar 2020, Gerry 164ft Surrey-Kent border wrote: There is a petition on the parliament website to scrap the Net Zero policy here https://petition.parliament.uk/petitions/300316 The petition is to put this to a referendum given that there government is refusing to say how much this will cost and how little - ie nothing - it will achieve climatewise. Even Tory writers are saying that the Bumbling Buffoon Boris's green enthusiasm is not what voters want, especially those who switched from Labour. On 10 Mar 2020, Paddy, Aberdeen South, sub, 130m elevation wrote: 3˚C at 7.30, very sunny morning with a light W’ly wind which strengthened by the afternoon, max temp 11˚, some cloud by then but sunny again thereafter and a clear moonlit night, 3˚ by 9.30pm. On 10 Mar 2020, Fred wrote: Rich It has to start somewhere, what is startling is the rapid growth ‘despite’ the alleged incredible ‘warmth’ up there. The ice melts mainly from beneath, which has been due to the warm pulse cycle, not CO2....I’m quite hopeful but as I said it’ll be an interesting watch over the next few years On 10 Mar 2020, Rich wrote: Hello Fred I agree that it has jumped up this last few months, however we have seen equally startling growth and drops in the past, but the direction for decades has been down. 1 Swallow as they say doesn't make a summer. If we have 2-3 years of growth I will get excited, until then....., Much of the ice is thin 1 year old and likely to melt out v quickly come the summer so I'm not too hopefull. On 09 Mar 2020, Paddy, Aberdeen South, sub, 130m elevation wrote: 0˚C at 7.30, frosty and very bright all morning with a light SW-S’ly wind that strengthened somewhat in the afternoon, max temp 12˚ around midday, clouding up thereafter, light rain for a couple of hours after 4pm, overcast evening, 4˚ at 9pm. On 09 Mar 2020, Colin wrote: Hi all yes it had to happen global warming is linked to cornova virus by world media . It's the same hype used to control fearful puppet public so new world order can take over countries by usinfear panicked stock crashes.UK forced to rejoin eu . Corona virus is obviously a bio weapon used by cia black ops . To save planet countries have to yield sovereignty to global elite. You read it here first just wait and see it all unfold . Boris the puppets gunnar sell us out back into eu hell. On 09 Mar 2020, Rhys Jaggar wrote: We are about to experience our third transient pulse of very warm air in 2020 the next couple of days. Same in Switzerland, with predictions for Geneva of 21C and 19C this week. This is actually amazingly good for getting plant seeds to germinate, something I doubt any warmers are even aware of. I have had plant seeds germinate out of doors in late January, late February and expect some more this week too. My soil is in good shape, the water table is replenished, the mild weather is helping seeds to grow. PANIC, PANIC: the natural world is doing well! Around here, anyway.... On 09 Mar 2020, Fred wrote: Mark Hall Yes correct approx 9 years (18.6 year lunar cycle) so starting from 98/99 to 2017/18 we get the 3 warm pulses. So let’s see where we go from here....shall be interesting watching the arctic reports over next few years. On 09 Mar 2020, Fred wrote: Rich The ice is above the last 10 years from a lowest starting point. So compared to cyclical colder decades/centuries no not a recovery as such, but the ice growth to get where it is now has been nothing short of startling. And the arctic currently is widespread below average in temps. You won’t find any warmist site advertising as such but will show ‘anomalies’ which are so inaccurate as they aren’t using recorded temp sites On 09 Mar 2020, Danny Newton wrote: I saw today that there will be pressure put on oil companies to refrain from drilling in Alaska and off the USA coasts by refusing to loan money for such ventures. The companies threatening such action are J.P. Morgan, UBS and Blackrock. These companies also provide investments via money market accounts. This is a boycott of legal activities by the financial sector. Oddly enough, these same companies are likely to be advising clients to buy and hold at least some oil stocks within various money market portfolios. I think I will stop by my broker and discuss the ethics of this move. On 08 Mar 2020, Paddy, Aberdeen South, sub, 130m elevation wrote: 4˚C at 7.30, light SW’ly wind, quite bright and getting brighter, the wind occasionally blowing strong, another sunny day - I don’t want to bore anyone by going on so, but this kind of weather is quite unusual though not unprecedented for us - max temp 11˚, sunny end to the day with 1˚ at 9.30pm. On 08 Mar 2020, Gerry Surrey-Kent border 164ft wrote: The BBC have started to realise that their days are numbered and seem to be changing their tune somewhat. Whether it will save them time will tell and could they be trusted to be more honest and less biased? There seems to be a glee when Spaceweather can say that a new sunspot has appeared but at least they admit that it ends 34 days spotless which takes the percentage up into the 70s. The question is where will this year end given two years with low sunspot counts? After the 2009 minimum numbers increased rapidly but this year we are at the 2010 total already. For a good laugh Jo Nova has a video of one of CSIRO's climate liars being completely silenced by a question from a politician who has actually read something as to why a CSIRO statement about there being no evidence of climate change causing fire weather is omitted from the report on the recent fires. Lying by omission - they love it. On 07 Mar 2020, Paddy, Aberdeen South, sub, 130m elevation wrote: 3˚C at 7.30, overcast after some light rain, strong SSW’ly wind, max temp 9˚ an a bit more light rain in the afternoon, overcast evening, still 7˚ at 9pm. On 07 Mar 2020, Rich wrote: Europe has officially had its warmest winter on record. 1.4 deg above previous record set in 2015/16, only way seems to be up! Not seeing any sign of arctic ice recovery Fred if u look at 'Arctic ice analysis', quite the opposite, probably get dismissed as fake news! On 07 Mar 2020, Sou'wester (sub) wrote: Mild and dry so far today at 17:00, with the sun peeping out a bit from 15:00 onwards - the exact opposite to what the Beeb had forecast. Not sure what Piers predicted - is the March forecasst out yet??? I can only still access Feb. So far I can report it has snowed 5 times in 2020 in Devon, though that was on higher ground like Dartmoor and Exmoor. For us down by the coast, we have seen what I call "sneet "- not quite sleet, rain, snow, or hail,, but something of a mixture of all of those. On 07 Mar 2020, Mark Hall wrote: Sorry Ron, I meant Fred. On 07 Mar 2020, Mark Hall wrote: Is it just me or has anyone else received the 30 day forecast for March? Not had a response to any queries to the office so far. It would be super fantastic to check out the prediction for the remaining 24 days of this month. Ron, those lunar gravitational pulses of warm water into the Arctic happen on a smaller 9 year beat as well don't they? On 07 Mar 2020, Fred wrote: The cyclical warm pulses (Atlantification of the Arctic Ocean) last about 20 years within a 50-80 year cycle. There are about 3 main pulses during each cycle. The last warm pulse period was 1930 to 1950 (anyone seen the photoof US sub in polar region breaking through very thin ice? That’s why), then the cool cycle which incorporated the great winters of 60s and 70s when scientists suggested we were heading into an ice age. Then from 1998 another warming pulse cycle started (big one). The last pulse was in 2018 which was a big one hence we reached the ’record low’ ice in October 2019. But now Like I say, the recovery has been remarkable....no co-incidence I say as the arctic Ocean cools rapidly. On 07 Mar 2020, Fred wrote: Subscriber https://fs.nwstatic.co.uk/monthly_2020_03/image.png.676d0a882192be7929d53cafd388b192.png Arctic temps now coldest in ten years and getting colder. -60c over Greenland and intense cold in arctic Canada and due to be flooding into Siberia. Ice recovery since record low start in October has been startling and is above anything over last 10 years....and climbing still! The ice in the arctic has been recovering rapidly despite GW models showing well above temp anomalies......my view is of 2 points. 1. The ground temps are not matching what the models show (Maisie project been recording sone very low temps in allegedly warm spots) 2. The last cyclical warm water pulse into the arctic ended 18/19 and the arctic ocean is rapidly cooling as the year long circulation sees the warm waters seep out. Just watch this cold last up there. On 06 Mar 2020, Paddy, Aberdeen South, sub, 130m elevation wrote: -1˚C at 7.30, cloudy and misty for a time before the sun broke through, SW’ly wind occasionally strong, sunny again though by early afternoon more clouds started rolling in from the SW but we still had a max temp of 12˚, cloudy evening with a bright moon, 2˚ at 10pm. On 06 Mar 2020, claude grayson wrote: good to hear you finally got your snow in the northen hemi. down here in the south,autumn has officially arrived and we've had a cold easterly for the last 3 days.cool nites, warm days, with the odd drop of moisture. temp. has been dropping all nite and is now 5,7C and will go lower as the fridge effect happens.most of the Nth .and top of Sth Is have been in dry to drought conditions,with only teaser showers . the problem with climate liers is that they have to keep telling them and inventing new reasons to support their first lies,but finally the weather lets them know that they have lied and they all look stupid. On 06 Mar 2020, Rhys Jaggar wrote: Rich I did make a fairly tart comment on Craig Murray's blog about the Scottish snow conditions and how the warmists' glee was now utterly misplaced. I went on to say that I doubted that the BBC would report on the change in conditions as it contradicted their mantras. Perhaps I shamed them into some honesty? On 06 Mar 2020, Rich wrote: Great news for Glencoe! Disappointing news for those on this site who like to have a dig at the BBC for only reporting warmist news as part of the world wide conspiracy. Fingers crossed for the Scottish ski scene and businesses, good news for once!. On 06 Mar 2020, Rhys Jaggar wrote: Finally a glorious sunny spring day here in NW London. All my young plants are out enjoying the spring sunshine with temperatures close to 10C max today. More snow to the Alps means the Rhone valley is loading up again, particularly the mountains encircling Martigny. Reassuringly average snow depths are found across Switzerland, with some stations being significantly below average and some close to record highs. Snow depths in many French ski resorts do not suggest that 'ski-ing will be wiped out as an industry'. Not by snow lack, anyway. The PTB might try and ban travel for some reason...if not Coronavirus, they will come up with some other scam. On 06 Mar 2020, Rhys Jaggar wrote: Ron With the predicted transient thaw on Saturday followed by a freeze and more snow in the mountains from Sunday onwards, it would look like utterly epic ice climbing conditions will start to emerge next week in Scotland...… All the Scottish ski resorts are reporting perfect conditions and even Lowther Hill webcam shows you could happily ski there too. On 06 Mar 2020, Ron Greer wrote: BBC News are reporting the best snow conditions at Glencoe for six years with '4 metres' of snow. On 05 Mar 2020, Paddy, Aberdeen South, sub, 130m elevation wrote: -3˚C at 7.30, again a mostly sunny day with a light SW’ly wind and a max temp of 11˚, hazy moonlit evening, 1˚ at 9pm. On 05 Mar 2020, claude grayson wrote: the weather gods musn't like the americans this winter.just saw on Eldorada that a line of tornadoes has ripped through nashville Tn and killed 25,and demolished heaps.all that after the record breaking cold. . oh well ,its an ill wind that brings nobody any good,so linesmen and builders and undertakers will all be busy,and many others. no dought another round of blaming CC/GW On 04 Mar 2020, Paddy, Aberdeen South, sub, 130m elevation wrote: -2˚C at 7.30, light SW’ly wind, mostly sunny all day with a max temp of 8˚, clear evening, 0˚ at 9.30pm. On 03 Mar 2020, Paddy, Aberdeen South, sub, 130m elevation wrote: 2˚C at 7.30, another bright sunny day, albeit with a sharp W’ly wind that gradually turned into the NW, 9˚ max nevertheless, spring is in the air, working without a jacket for most of the day, moonlit night getting brighter every evening, 3˚ by 8.30pm. On 03 Mar 2020, Ron Greer wrote: much of the heavy precipitation up here fell as snow above 500 metres and there is substantial snow cover in the Western Grampians. On 03 Mar 2020, Gerry 164ft Surrey-Kent border wrote: When it comes to rainfall records, it depends on which set of records is being used! The MetO like to pretend that they go back only as far as 1910. But that is their digital record only. There is more data but it is not supportive of their climate change claims so they hide it. And then when referring to England or Wales, there is much longer record which will again undo many a 'since records began' claim as Paul Homewood has often shown. On 02 Mar 2020, claude grayson wrote: Im wondering how the cca,will discredit the news that USA has set 600+ all time records for cold this winter,according to Sky news Aust. On 02 Mar 2020, Paddy, Aberdeen South, sub, 130m elevation wrote: 0˚C at 7.30, brilliantly sunny already and continuing thus all morning, still with a cold SW’ly wind. Getting quite warm with a max temp of 9˚ and out of the wind the sun was practically roasting, cloudy during the middle of the day but a brilliant sunny ending with a clear star & moonlit night, 1˚ at 9pm. On 02 Mar 2020, Rhys Jaggar wrote: February rainfall totals in our back garden totalled a round 100m, pretty close to double the long term average around these parts. Nothing compared to what is reported below in West Yorkshire, but for us, still a continuation of much above average rainfall, which has more than restored equilibrium after two summers of drought/heatwaves. Reports in the DT say that 1990 was wetter than 2020 nationally in February, which does suggest that one climate data point on from 1990, 'climate change is not causing this rainfall'. Do not try and convince the BBC script readers, however. They have their propaganda to distribute.... On 01 Mar 2020, Paddy, Aberdeen South, sub, 130m elevation wrote: 2˚C at 7.30, cloudy for much of the morning, strong SW’ly wind, sun breaking through in the afternoon after a bit of rain around midday, max temp 6˚, clouding up again towards evening, the first quarter moon just visible, 3˚ at 9.30pm. On 01 Mar 2020, Richard Bruce wrote: February has turned out to be a record breaking month for rainfall in Nidderdale North Yorkshire. We have had 296mm this month which far exceeds anything recorded. The nearest rainfall records at Bradford show no month has ever recorded so much rain. Flooding has unsurprisingly been an issue and the ground is so saturated that any small amount i.e. even 12mm or so causes the beck in our garden to rise dramatically. An interesting event was very heavy snow last week which was followed by an unprecented rapid thaw causing flooding. The temperature went from 1C to 10C in a matter of hours causing snow melt issues. On 29 Feb 2020, Paddy, Aberdeen South, sub, 130m elevation wrote: 7˚C at 7.30, snow gone, ground sodden, strong S’ly wind all day along with good periods of sunshine, temp staying the same all day until the evening rain, 4˚ by 9pm. On 28 Feb 2020, Paddy, Aberdeen South, sub, 130m elevation wrote: 0˚C at 7.30, overcast but dry with a strong SW’ly wind that eventually turned into the SE, rain starting at 11 and carrying on well into the afternoon, some heavy bursts, max temp 4˚, drier evening, 3˚ by 9pm. Happy to see the snow going, it turned into a slippery wet mess by yesterday. On 28 Feb 2020, Gerry 164ft Surrey-Kent border wrote: In 2018 the first ploughing matches of the year were cancelled due to snow. At the end of March. So still plenty of time for more snow before spring. On 28 Feb 2020, Rich wrote: First and probably last snow of the winter yesterday in SE Cambs, light dusting of slushy snow on grass and cars, went as fast as it came. Cant wait for the soggy windy excuse of an extended autumn to end, never mind the snow, would happily have settled for frost (don't think its been below -2 to date) and a bit of sun... hope this isn't a sign of future winters yet to come!.. Right back to building my Ark! On 28 Feb 2020, David (Yorkshire) wrote: I'm considering getting water Ski's⛷️⛷️💧💧💧 On 27 Feb 2020, Andy (Chiltern Hills) wrote: A few hours of very heavy snow this morning with temperature at 0 degrees leading to a ‘Christmas Card’ scene that Ron would be proud of. On 27 Feb 2020, Paddy, Aberdeen South, sub, 130m elevation wrote: 0˚C at 7.30, crunch snow & ice underfoot, another mostly sunny day but with a cold NW’ly wind, max temp 6˚, surprisingly 2˚ at 9pm. On 27 Feb 2020, @CraigM350, Sub Berks 51N wrote: The rain turned to sleet then snow which didn't stick but lasted for a couple of hours. Disappointing for older kids who wanted something to play with but appreciated by very young kids. Hopefully Glenn caught some flakes. // Have to say the ground is utterly sodden after months of above average rainfall, although no real flooding except in the usual places. Further north the continued rain is causing no end of problems with no cessation in sight. On 27 Feb 2020, Rhys Jaggar wrote: 9.30am in NW London and big fat snowflakes are falling. It will not last, the forecast being for it to clear up by afternoon, but it is the first and possibly last set of snowflakes to fall this winter down here. the winter in the Alps continues to show similarities to 1990, with late February bringing a strong snowfall from the NW with snow down into the alpine valleys. The ground at low levels will likely be too warm now for the snow to last long, going to melt not from sunshine but from the warm ground below. This has followed a mild January and SW gales in early to mid February, along with abnormally high temperatures recorded. Just like 1990. On 26 Feb 2020, C View wrote: RHYS - Nice detailed explanation, though none required I have skied in Scotland for 40 years. On 26 Feb 2020, Paddy, Aberdeen South, sub, 130m elevation wrote: 0˚C at 7.30, blue sky with a a sharp W’ly wind, a mostly sunny day again with a max temp of 5˚, a little more cloud in the afternoon, ground remaining frozen in shady places, -2˚ by 9pm. Still quite a bit of snow on our hill, about 30 metres lower down nothing, as usual, so that’s 2 days of snow we’ve had so far this winter. On 26 Feb 2020, @CraigM350, Sub Berks 51N wrote: Rhys/CView - Iain Cameron (he does the snow patch reports) tweeted the other day about Glencoe ==="When heavy rain saturates an existing snow-pack it becomes more dense and squeezes out the air. A subsequent re-freeze of the pack makes it more resistant to future melting. Thus, long-lying snow patches are born. It’s called a freeze/thaw cycle." On 26 Feb 2020, Rhys Jaggar wrote: C View It is an underappreciated fact that the best time to ski in Scotland is often mid-February to late April, with November to early February often seeing snow coming and going, washed away etc etc. What you need is a big fall, then a transient thaw and then a hard freeze. Then you get a base to last a season. The ice climbers on Ben Nevis know well that maximum snow depths on the mountain usually occur in early April. As for drifted snow metres deep, Glencoe ski area has NE facing gullies to ski in, so when the wind comes from SW-SE with warm fronts hitting cold arctic air, Glencoe can get huge amounts of snow. My best day ski-ing at Glencoe was on April 27th in the early 1990s. Flypaper and the Spring Run were both full of deep snow, the single biggest reasons to ski Glencoe for advanced skiers... On 26 Feb 2020, Steve Devine wrote: Provisional data for Feb 2020 currently showing a daytime average of 9.4c and 4.7c by night. Strangely that is 1.6c cooler by day than Feb 2019 but 1.3c milder by night. I note the UK Met Office have now issued warnings for snow across Wales, C & S/E England tomorrow then more rain warnings for Friday and Saturday across already saturated areas of Wales & NW England. If Saturday's storm is named, it would be Storm Ellen. Looks like 100kph/62mph gusts in the Bristol Channel on Saturday if latest model output verifies... On 25 Feb 2020, Paddy, Aberdeen South, sub, 130m elevation wrote: 1˚C at 7.30, cloudy but brightening up soon enough, about an inch or so of wet snow looking gorgeous once the sun was out but falling of the branches pretty quickly, light W’ly breeze all day, max temp 6˚, cooling in the afternoon and crunchy underfoot with the frost setting in on the ground, snow persistent for the first time this winter, clear cold & still evening with 0˚ at 9pm. On 25 Feb 2020, @CraigM350, Sub Berks 51N wrote: Sorry for the delay with comments. We had a technical issue which is now resolved. Steve and I have hopefully released the backlog. // Saw some flakes in the Cotswolds on the 11th but looks like more may be seen across the coming days with a yellow snow and ice warning ⚠ for Wales and NW Eng/Scot h NI until 10 tomorrow and for the south an ice warning ⚠ out from midnight until 10am " mix of rain and hail showers, with some snow over higher ground, is likely to leave surfaces wet overnight. Surface temperatures are then expected to fall below freezing with icy stretches forming in places." This winter has been so bad I'll happily take that. More cold opportunities to come by looks of it too. The daffs have finally come out the last week, Roses are budding even saw a magnolia tree looking like it's only days from opening it's glorious flowers all in all it looks like spring so now the weather gets cold 😂 On 25 Feb 2020, C View wrote: Incredible turnaround in the conditions at the Scottish Ski Centres. The recent storms have transformed the meagre offering throgh January into a mega bounty of snow. Cairngorm report 30cm falling in the last 24 hours and Glencoe is boasting of drifts 10 metres deep and have skiing all the way to the car park at the bottom of the mountain. How this is possible when "snowfall is now a thing of the psst" is beyond me....... On 24 Feb 2020, Paddy, Aberdeen South, sub, 130m elevation wrote: 1˚C at 7.30, overcast & cold in the SE’ly wind, dry until 11 when wet snow and rain set in, kept going mostly as rain all afternoon and evening, max temp 3˚, when I came home from a gig at night it was snowing heavily but very wet stuff, 1˚ at 9pm. On 23 Feb 2020, Maria (Ireland sub) wrote: Hey Piers I'm guessing the blog is down as my last post didn't come up and no recent comments showing from subscribers, also took up the fab front page offer thanks and extended my subscription by 12 months but didn't receive an email receipt, guessing this will all be sorted soon and hoping I have extended my sub and it's not our rubbish internet this end, Cheers Maria :) On 23 Feb 2020, Paddy, Aberdeen South, sub, 130m elevation wrote: 1˚C at 7.30, watching the sun rise in a clear blue sky, quite still for a while but then the strong W’ly wind kicked in, turning into the NW eventually, and we had yet another sunny day with a max temp of 6˚, down to 1˚ by 9pm. On 23 Feb 2020, Colin wrote: Yes snow is here all over UK will BBC and ch 4 ignore it or proclaim the end of global warming and co2 is fake . Will they preach mini ice age as real science proves is happening . Who gets the 1.2 billion spent on new weather computer whilst boris spends nothing on flood defences let me guess one of boris billionaire pals. On 22 Feb 2020, Paddy, Aberdeen South, sub, 130m elevation wrote: 1˚C at 7.30, strong W’ly wind (we had some ferocious gusts through the night, waking us up), a few snow showers during the morning but not sticking, sunny and cold in the sometimes wild wind, max temp 5˚, wind keeping going into the night, 3˚ at 8.30pm. On 22 Feb 2020, Christopher Cutting wrote: New to thread, been following the page for 5 months now. Love the facts and science behind real forecasting. I'm from Australia and as you know since our bushfires we have now been the new poster for climate change BS. As devastating as it has been for many it has nothing to do with climate change more or less poor forestry management. If no one is aware of Australias flora it's very complex and incredibly hard to kill, evolving through fire and droughts for a long long time. Wondering if you do long range forecasting within the southern hemisphere. It is probably a big ask but our Government run Bureau of meteorology can not seem to get anything right. Back in November/December we were told that no rain would come until mid April and it was because of man made climate change yet mid January to even currently now in Feb it's done nothing but smash rain records........ all because of climate change.... it's never ending and getting old. Cheers, On 22 Feb 2020, Colin wrote: Hi all told you it would snow in Feb when cold artic air sweeps down caused by wild jet stream. to all warmest it is not the end of snow. Why do the deranged warmest claim storms to be theirs . They must be deluded where is the warming when it's minus 2 c in UK Will they just delete the records to suit their delusions. Like the aussie do. On 21 Feb 2020, Paddy, Aberdeen South, sub, 130m elevation wrote: 4˚C at 7.30, rather cloudy and blowing strong & cold from the SW, but yet again turning into a sunny day with a remarkably spring-like max temp of 10˚ as the wind picked up more warmth, overcast with some drizzle in the evening, still 8˚ at 9pm. On 20 Feb 2020, Paddy, Aberdeen South, sub, 130m elevation wrote: 4˚C at 7.30, cold W’ly wind on account of the rain falling at the beginning of the morning, brightening up before midday, sunny afternoon with a max temp of 6˚, clear starry night again with 2˚ a 9pm. On 19 Feb 2020, Paddy, Aberdeen South, sub, 130m elevation wrote: 2˚C at 7.30, clear as a bell and beautiful sunrise as I was out with the dog, sunny morning with a W’ly wind to begin with, later turning into the S. Clouding over by midday, max temp 8˚, rain eventually hitting us around 4pm, mostly light and not long, well overcast sky at night, no stargazing, 6˚ at 9pm. On 18 Feb 2020, Colin wrote: Hi all heard about the mett office new 1.2 billion pounds computer which is going to save us lol. Now who is making the money out of climate change All we are hearing is climate change flooding as if there's never been a flood before. If you Google all the flooded towns you will see they have all flooded before many times in last 30 years. The conmen strike aging stealing 1.2 billion pounds from us On 18 Feb 2020, Paddy, Aberdeen South, sub, 130m elevation wrote: 1˚C at 7.30, frosty in parts, bright from the word go, still quite windy from the SW for most of the day, yet another sunny one with a max temp of 7˚, always a few clouds here & there but still a clear starry evening with the wind dying down, 0˚ at 8.30pm. On 18 Feb 2020, @CraigM350, Sub Berks 51N wrote: A video from Ben Davidson “THE SUN | Plasma Climate Forcing Finale” which looks at some of the various solar forcings making their way into the scientific literature and it's not TSI, which is how alarmists have been dismissing any solar effects on climate. No lunar effects but baby steps === https://weatheraction.wordpress.com/2020/02/16/watch-ben-davidson-the-sun-plasma-climate-forcing-finale/ On 17 Feb 2020, Maria (Ireland sub) wrote: Couldn't help myself gone and got myself a sub extension for an early Birthday present 🤭 Fab deal tho thanks guv ;-) On 17 Feb 2020, Maria (Ireland sub) wrote: The 10th with its snow gave us around an inch of snow on the outside table and a good covering everywhere, it remained despite a few short lived sunny spells, the titchy one loved getting out and exploring it and although its snowed every year since she was born her 2 year old self was obviously more intrigued and delighted crunching around in her lil snow boots :-) It lasted on the ground overnight with a dusting on top by morning but some showers were mixed precip and washed some away, a little remained into Wed. Then the wind and rain came and stole the last of it. Windy cold with sunny spells Thurs. Mix of dry spells and showers Friday. Back to stormy windy wet weekend lots more rain windy and gusty winter weather, actually dreaming of spring now I'm waving the white flag on winter, hearing the birds the last few weeks seeing the day get a lil longer I'm just waiting almost patiently for the weather to match the spring sights n sounds. On 17 Feb 2020, Paddy, Aberdeen South, sub, 130m elevation wrote: 16.02.20 3˚C at 7.30, strong SW’ly wind, wet snow shower but doesn’t stick, followed by a brilliantly sunny day, max temp 6˚, a little rain in late afternoon but clear evening and still quite windy, 4˚ at 8.30pm. 17.02.20 3˚C at 7.30, feeling cold in the strong WSW wind that kept blowing all day, though not as ferociously as yesterday, yet another sunny day, can’t quite believe it, max temp 8˚, wind suddenly stopped at 5pm, 2˚ at 8.30pm. On 17 Feb 2020, Rich wrote: Given run of last few years, and start of 2020,Im confident In my prediction of another warm /mildyear for 2020 and winter 2020/21, I said the same at this stage last year for this winter and its proved to be the case, might be dry or wet but cold it wont be. Seems to be the direction of travel. On 17 Feb 2020, @Piers_Corbyn London Chief Forecaster wrote: HURRY! WAKE-UP! DONT MISS OUT! GO AND GET YOUR TOTALLY AMAZING FOUR-FOR-ONE OFFERS ON ALL FORECAST SERVICES 12 MONTH SUBS (12mth for only 3) - including the WHOLE-LOT; and 6mth subs for only two = 3 for 1. These amazing deals end ANYTIME when targets are reached; so GoGoGo NOW! ANY overlaps with existing subs get credit extensions eg starting where new deal sub ends. It's a great chance to get longer ahead and more services such as Europe maps as well as British isles or Usa maps to be prepared for the coming wild jet-stream wild weather year. 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What I say here does not downgrade what may be far worse weather elsewhere, merely to say that assigning 'normality' to the worst-hit areas avoids reality. On 15 Feb 2020, Colin wrote: Hi Paul if you Google australian weather beurea caught deleting cold temp readings the stories come up. They have been doing this for a decade so they can claim accelerated warming in australia. They deleted a13f reading they then boasted of not recording readings below minus 10c . So if there was a period of minus 20c this would never be recorded . It mass fraud on aussie public.these warmest fachists will stop at nothing to achieve their world domination aims .they are akin to the worst James bond villain . On 15 Feb 2020, Paddy, Aberdeen South, sub, 130m elevation wrote: 4˚C at 7.30, overcast with a strong S’ly wind, mostly dry until 11 when the rain started in earnest and kept going until around 5pm, max temp 7˚nevertheless, clearing thereafter and giving us a magnificent starry sky with Venus shining brightly in the W, 5˚ at 8.30pm. On 15 Feb 2020, Rhys Jaggar wrote: Mark Hall I thought the relevant comparison to the 2018 BFTE was March 1962, exactly three solar/lunar beats of 18.6 years back. Was 1958 also a BFTE? On 15 Feb 2020, Colin wrote: Hi all another climate change system hits UK soon I'm sure all the useless environment agency and council clones will have their climate change story to blame for all the flooding it's nothing to with them doing nothing for the last 20 odd years .let's build no flood defences let's build houses on flood plains then we will blame it all on climate change. BBC latest climate spin is on Hornsea links coastal erosion due to climate change nothing to do with . It's been going on for hundreds of years and links council have done nothing to protect the coast. They could easily invite builders to dump rubble along the beech to make a sea wall that will protect the coast. On 14 Feb 2020, Paddy, Aberdeen South, sub, 130m elevation wrote: 3˚C at 7.30, overcast and very windy from the S, ground still frozen but thawing through the morning, light rain from 11 - 2pm, temps rising to 7˚ with a little bit of sunshine in the afternoon, cloudy again in the evening with the wind having abated, 5˚ at 10pm. On 14 Feb 2020, Geoff wrote: If we reach named storm 'G', l hope they call it Gail...Or Rainer !! On 13 Feb 2020, Colin wrote: Hi I saw the Australian story on you tube a guy from Australia first party told the story about them cheating the temp readings. In UK another winter storm comes bringing more snow Will the BBC climate deniers report the snow or deny the snow On 13 Feb 2020, Paddy, Aberdeen South, sub, 130m elevation wrote: -1˚C at 7.30, quite still after 5 days of continuous strong winds, SE breeze at first, gradually turning into the N, cloudy start but soon brightening up to yet another sunny day, remarkable how much more sun we have had over the last four weeks or so, in contrast to December. Max temp 4˚, beautiful starry sky at night; taking the dog out at this time has made it possible for me to do a lot more stargazing than ever before, -1˚ at 9pm. On 13 Feb 2020, claude grayson wrote: 13.6* o/n 0600 16.5* 81%h EsE20k hi.cld,with 22deg moon ring dirty red sun rise.Usei ,seems to be fissling out and losing shape in the Tasman. parts of N Is on track to record dry ,some parts 40+ days with no signif.rain. was looking at Eldorado, Canadian temps ,quite cool over there,and if it heads to BI parts you may get your winter yet,by snail mail. On 13 Feb 2020, Steve, Dorset,UK sub wrote: The old farming folklore It was always called February Fill dyke here in Dorset, so to all the Global Warmest,s doomsayer’s out there nothing has changed. On 13 Feb 2020, Paul (sub) SE UK wrote: Colin - interesting! Do you have a link to that news story about the measuring equipment? I'm betting the BBC won't be reporting on it... lol On 12 Feb 2020, Paddy, Aberdeen South, sub, 130m elevation wrote: 3˚C at 7.30, cloudy with a strong & cold W’ly wind blowing that kept going all day, brightening up to another sunny day by 11, max temp 5˚, wind calming down completely by 8pm when we already had -2˚, be good to get a hard frost, haven’t had enough of them. Queensferry crossing appears to be open again, had been shut since Monday due to ice falling off the structure, damaging cars. On 12 Feb 2020, Colin wrote: Hi all news from down under the Australian weather depts have been fidling the temp readings by using small Stevenson screens instead of large screens . As small screens are known to be tending towards higher readings. The Australian pm is investigating . So there we have it there was no max high Tempsford in Oz this summer only warmest fraud lies . On 12 Feb 2020, David (Yorkshire) wrote: Ron, yep unfortunately we were right. Sick of the rain now and no sign, of an end to it. On 12 Feb 2020, C View wrote: Hurrah !!Snowfalls no longer a thing of the past.....12 people rescued from vehicles north of Dumfries last night in a blizzard. On 12 Feb 2020, claude grayson wrote: o/n ,0600 16 .2*C 15 k NW gusts 90% h , tropicalCyc is slowly meandering its way S and is forcast to hit the bot.of the S Is abt sunday,but we'll wait and see. On 12 Feb 2020, Ron Greer wrote: DAVID( Yorkshire) Well we were both right about an Atlantic winter. Can't see any blocking highs in the near future. On 12 Feb 2020, David (Yorkshire) wrote: 58 Years since 62/63, is arguably the winter coming up Mark. If you are referring to that particular lunar cycle / beat!! On 12 Feb 2020, Mark Hall wrote: Rhys, the Feb 2018 Beast from the East rocked up exactly 60 years after a very similar cold outbreak. So I expect the catastrophic winter of 1962-3 will be repeated in the next couple of years. And England should win the 2026 World Cup. On 11 Feb 2020, Andy (Chilterns) wrote: Colin, I think you should join Glen and seek help On 11 Feb 2020, David (Yorkshire) wrote: Out of interest, how well has the current set up.been forecasted by Piers? Including the storm! On 11 Feb 2020, Paddy, Aberdeen South, sub, 130m elevation wrote: 3˚C at 7.30, strong W’ly wind lasting all day and into the night, really sunny again, max temp 5˚, rain to the N of us according to the radar, not a drop here all day, 3˚ at 9pm. On 11 Feb 2020, claude grayson wrote: o/N L 9.3C 060011.4C 96%h NNW 4 k mostly cldy..fine moonlight nite till abt 4am,mod. dew. still no rain in sight,so brown grass everywhere we look.. On 11 Feb 2020, Rhys Jaggar wrote: Anyone done any comparisons between 2019/20 and 1982/83? My anecdotal antenna suggests that Austria has had a similar winter progression to 1982/3 when I was out there and my aunt wrote to me from England saying they were 'having a very mild winter'. 37 years is after all two solar/lunar cycles of 18.6 years.... On 11 Feb 2020, Colin wrote: Hi all warmest beware reality strikes as snow hits UK yes an end of snow is a lie . Only crazy brainwashed people could believe such garbage . Schools are the national warmest propaganda camps . There was Hitler youth now warmest youth. Will the warmest youth build snowmen or ignore the snow pretending it's not there like an army of King kaNutest Emperors with no clothes on psychos. Maybe they will all committed suicide like the Dutch crazies did. On 11 Feb 2020, Ron Greer wrote: GLENN: I think you should seek professional help as you appear to have a mental health issue. On 10 Feb 2020, Colin wrote: Hi all snow is on its way just had hail in Leeds so warmest s beware maybe a nice snowy spring Feb March April snow snow ssnow lovely snow for great to play in make snowmen lol. Australia has loads of rain since Jan 5th to present 3 times the average the permanent drought is over. All the fires are out in nsw the bush will soon grow back in a few years. We must launch fraud trials against BBC and UK government lies and carbon taxes On 10 Feb 2020, Paddy, Aberdeen South, sub, 130m elevation wrote: 0˚C at 7.30, clear sky and quite windy from the W already, lasting all day but not as strong as yesterday, another sunny day with a max temp of 4˚, no snow, though in the west they had plenty apparently, cloudy but bright night, wind abating, 0˚ at 9pm. On 10 Feb 2020, claude grayson wrote: 0600 15* 90%h 11k gusts calm most of night full L cld cover ,so no dew. has the feel it may drizzle. i see on the situ map this morning a cyclone has formed above New Caledonia,so will watch,and OZ has a trough line right across in an arc ,no wonder its raining ,and now all but 5 fires are out. On 10 Feb 2020, Ron Greer wrote: M. LEWIS--no, indeed I have not, tis the Express, expressing such a view( or at least reporting that view coming from the warmist lobby) On 10 Feb 2020, C View wrote: I see the European Space \Agency have launched their Solar Orbiter with the mission stated as "Studying the Sun up close, taking high-resolution images of the Sun's poles for the first time, and understanding the Sun-Earth connection" Will be interesting to see how that goes. Glenn you are making the same mistake as many climate scientists. 8 years ago they said the UK was in permanent drought, and just the other day the Australian Met Office said ther would be no rain until April only for them to see their heaviest rain in 20 years fall a few days later. The weather you are experiencing now is not an indicator of the future, whether that future is next week next month or next year. On 10 Feb 2020, Maria (Ireland sub) wrote: Thursday was cool with sunny spells same again Friday then some showers. Saturday morning looked sweet at first so a lil fresh air with the tiny one then the day declined with wind n rain leading into the night, intensified around 5 a.m Sunday morning a lovely crack of thunder there after and a few rounds of lightning n thunder as the storm came aboard. So yeah very windy lots of rain but although it was a longer period of stormy weather it didnt seem as crazy as say ophelia but the Orange warning lasted from 5a.m till noon here then yellow and it was very gusty later yesterday afternoon whilst in the yellow, not too scared to go out here just sensible as so many trees left covered in ivy these days and old rotten wood u wouldn't be surprised to see some down. Plus the wind was too strong to open the gate anyway, the perk of a winters day, downtime :-) Dare I say it, snow this morning big flakes too and after a couple hours of just snow without the rain mixed in we have a winters scene On 10 Feb 2020, M Lewis wrote: Ron - I think you have the cause and effect the wrong way round. Global warming is a result of increased volcanic activity across the Planet. Particularly the Pacific Ring of Fire. On 10 Feb 2020, Ron Greer wrote: changed to heavy snow showers late last night, with a good covering now at this altitude ( 140 metres) and heavy snow showers continuing. Looks like winter again On 09 Feb 2020, Sou'wester, sub, South Devon waterfront wrote: Haven’t been out this weekend because of Storm Ciara – not because the local paper told me to stay in, which it did, but because I could hear storm force winds all yesterday all night long and then all day today, battering away at things. I read that a local pub’s windows have shattered and a roof got blown off a house, with various power cuts and numerous trees down all over Devon and Cornwall. There has been no let up now for over 36 hours. Not looking forward to my long journey to work tomorrow as I don't see this thing letting up yet. On 09 Feb 2020, Paddy, Aberdeen South, sub, 130m elevation wrote: 3˚C at 7.30, overcast & wet, heavy overnight rain, SW’ly wind gradually turning into the W and strengthening considerably, brightening up by 10, blue sky in spades and very strong winds in the afternoon, clear moonlit evening, clouding over somewhat and the wind noticeably dropping by 8pm, 4˚ by 8.30. On 09 Feb 2020, Ron Greer wrote: GEOFF:---it ain't done yet ! On 09 Feb 2020, Geoff wrote: Thanks, David (Yorkshire)...A happy ending to winter. On 09 Feb 2020, Rhys Jaggar wrote: Storm Ciara nothing dreadful in NW London: yes the wind was gusting a bit, but no damage, no flying debris and just a few squally downpours of about five minutes in the five hours of perfectly normal steady to heavy rainfall. We had only had about half an inch of fresh rain to bring us up to about half the monthly rainfall expectation. What we used to call 'a good day on Cairngorm' back in the day in Scotland.... On 09 Feb 2020, claude grayson wrote: 0600 12.2* 89% h 4k gusts o/n L 9.8* we need rain in the Nth Is,but not all at once,anyone got some to spare. ozzies are hogging theirs now,and wont share. On 09 Feb 2020, Rich wrote: Strong winds this morning, but not as bad as weather was forecast this afternoon in SE Cambs. Apart from some large twigs on the roads and one wonky panel that I've seen, not where near as bad as Feb 2017 storm. Few more windy days forecast but nothing overly concerning. CET data + forecasts looks like Feb will be another very mild month. On 09 Feb 2020, Glenn wrote: That that then. Nobody at Weatheraction cares about clod winters and snow anymore and its hard to think that ten years ago cold winters were all the rage. I am seriously considering comitting suicide this year as a result of the snow deprivation that im suffering from. On 09 Feb 2020, Tony ex sub wrote: Got to say those people who were dismissing ths Mets warning have got it way wrong .....my fence one side destroyed 1st time ever .....a 3ftplant I have cemented in a pot lifted and smashed ....was cemented to stop it being pinched .......walked dog and tiles off roofs fences down and this is just Northamptonshire...... On 09 Feb 2020, David (Yorkshire) wrote: Geoff - Hope Ciara did not disappoint you😯😂 On 09 Feb 2020, colin wrote: hi all yes boris is now proclaiming huge tax risers and pension raids what happened to end of austerity garbage they just wanted your votes. obviously he has massive climate change spending in mind and also massive benefits bill as millions join dole que due to de industrialisation mania. winters not over yet I remember -21c in mid 80,s februarry. for 2 weeks cold snap and also snow in april has happened many times . when the wild jet stream brings down artic air = snow ice -10c plus . the warmists are liars and fraudsters and mass murderers who want to genocide half the world population o save the so called world. its obvious the cornova virus was made in a lab as they knew the genetic code and tried to cover it up so it could spread and not be contained obviously the elite will have the vaccine. On 09 Feb 2020, Ron Greer wrote: Well, a wee air of wind about, but we've had worse. Snow down to 500 metres. The Express is carrying a feature about global warming causing increased volcanic activity---nothing to do with solar inactivity eh? On 09 Feb 2020, Glenn wrote: well apart from a few frosts this winter has been a suicide inducing pile of garbage. I now have no hope whatsoever for the future of UK winters. If every winter is going to be like this one now then it will be certainly be guaranteed that i will never see snow again. On 08 Feb 2020, Paddy, Aberdeen South, sub, 130m elevation wrote: 2˚C at 7.30, bright with a cold SW’ly wind, beautiful sunny morning and early afternoon with a max temp of 6˚, wind powering up but not as much as expected for our parts, clouding over by nightfall with rain starting by 6pm, still going now at 10pm & quite heavy, 5˚. Thrushes have started singing, earlier than usual. On 08 Feb 2020, Geoff wrote: Looks like this named storm will be the only bit of 'excitement' we get this winter, so I, for one, am rather looking forward to getting blown by Ciara tonight. On 08 Feb 2020, claude grayson wrote: 0600 9* 86%hum calm, mostly cldy, Sc ,.O/n L 8.9. so ive lit the fire,in the faint hope the co2 will warm it up somewhat. Paul,its with some ammusement that your media are panicing while ours are crowing,that the antarctic has reached 18.3,the highest on record,on the western side ,then clarify by saying its only .8 higher.such suckers. whats the bet they took it on an area with no snow on the ground,and bright sun ..got to the point now where i ? everything that comes from any official Met source. On 08 Feb 2020, Paul (sub) SE UK wrote: I see that ITV and BBC are going into Panic Overdrive mode because of Storm Ciara - so far I've heard we shouldn't travel (even by train, according to the train companies?!), there will be 4" of rain, travel disruption will abound, and it's been compared to the "deadly storms of 2013", with plenty of pictures of large fallen trees in urban areas. How will we plebs possibly cope if we are not being beaten over the head until we submit to fear-induced paranoia about what could happen, no matter how unlikely? *rolls eyes*. They did the same with 'the Beast from the East', ramping up the scaremongering until it seemed perfectly sensible people should be terrified to leave the house. Will there be some areas that get some high levels of precipitation and damaging gusts of wind? Of course. Will there be other areas that get just some moments of heavy rain and squally winds? Also yes. I would place money on the fact the entire landmass won't be submerged and/or blown away by Monday... On 08 Feb 2020, Mark Hall wrote: Claude, Yes, climate suckers seems apt for these dupes. We've had a bumblebee jamboree over here in the UK media too. Some crew from Bristol discounted habitat loss, agri-monocultures, cold outbreaks disrupting springtime, 4 and 5 G, pesticides etc. Reduced populations are all due to global heating, apparently. The fact that most insects (like the corals) thrive in hotter conditions did not occur to these people. There is no funding for that kind of objectivity. On 07 Feb 2020, Paddy, Aberdeen South, sub, 130m elevation wrote: 4˚C at 7.30, quite overcast with an already gusty S’ly wind which increased during the day, sunny from 10.30 until sunset, milky kind of atmosphere & very damp, 4˚ by 9pm. Meteosoup has yellow wind warnings all weekend but rain warning only for southern England so far. On 07 Feb 2020, claude grayson wrote: here we go again!!!! headlines on rnz news bumble bees decline due to climate change. anyone with half a brain knows clm chges all the time....they are so predictable with their linking it to human induced temp change. they call us deniers maybe we ought to begin to refer to the as Suckers. sucked into the bullcrap of professional lies. so does anyone here mind if i refer to them here on as climatesuckers. On 07 Feb 2020, claude grayson wrote: 0600 13.6* 93% hum cldy with a tinge of pink in higher cld. FC shs pm. O/N L 12.6* so strange how all this co2 seems to stop warming and insulating at night,then kicks into gear upon sunup.yet the condenced water vapour does do its work at night,and the temp rises with it,and cools in its shade. note too how high water content at night is cooling as dew,yet so draining,when warmed by the sun. who got it so so wrong. maybe they didnt get up early enough to observe. On 07 Feb 2020, Ron Greer wrote: C VIEW: aye, I saw that news bulletin and couldn't get the smirk off my face for hours--and the thought of the new tree species I could try!! On 07 Feb 2020, claude grayson wrote: was just looking at our nz ,geonet,site where they have cameras,looking at all the volcanoes,and noted that Mt Ruapehu Sth, shows much more snow than when we used to hike up ,in the 70s. maybe if everyone round the world dug out their old snow pics and compared them to current ones they would SEE there is no GW or CC. whats more the mt had lees snow over winter than other years. On 06 Feb 2020, Paddy, Aberdeen South, sub, 130m elevation wrote: 0˚C at 7.30, another fabulously sunny day with a very light breeze from a generally S’ly direction, max temp 7˚, moonlit night and still getting brighter every night, full moon on Sunday at 7.33, going to be a windy weekend apparently. 1˚ at 8.30pm. == glad you liked the video, Maria, he performed this live in Parliament Sq last Friday but had to substitute the word fudge for the other one, otherwise it would have been a public order offence, the public weren’t under the same stricture though :-) On 06 Feb 2020, claude grayson wrote: great start to autumn..0600 11* 94% hum, calm, cldy along ranges and foggy through the gaps. always notice the change to cooler come feb,even though the days are hot,in the sun 22* ystdy. Rhys ,so right .worked on a farm in the 80s and not a cld in the sky all morning but cld poured through a gap over lunch and got snow by 1pm with a 100mm dump by nitghtfall,unexpected. On 06 Feb 2020, Rhys Jaggar wrote: Claude Grayson Nothing unusual about heat followed by snow: just needs winds to change from a warm direction to a cold one aka a warm front followed by a cold one. I saw that in 1990 in Switzerland, we were ski-ing on a Friday afternoon and the cable car station at 1600m registered 23C. In February! The next day a hurricane arrived, we had two days snowfall down to 800m, two days Foehn with rain up to 1700m (causing a landslide to break the railway line) then snow again. Some Swiss folk actually like transient warmth prior to snow as it makes the snow surface wet and sticky to receive the new stuff, thereby reducing avalanche risks..... UK and Europe are about to experience this kind of event between Saturday and Wednesday. On 06 Feb 2020, Maria (Ireland sub) wrote: Ps Paddy just watched your Brexit vid link 🤣 On 06 Feb 2020, Maria (Ireland sub) wrote: 14th Jan rain with a sleety mix & colder,15th Frost16th Rain n wind 17th Frosty start good sunny spells temp dropped quicker with frost again early eve. Frosty n cold 17th -3 n Frosty 19th frost remaining all day. 20th -2 cold n frosty start again fab sunny day followed. 21st Not as cold too cloudy for frost. 22nd Foggy start milder mostly cloudy 8 deg. 23rd Really foggy not improving for most of the day. 24th overcast 7 deg. 25th colder again. 26th Sunny spells. 27th yellow snow ice alert but snow mostly in NW, light frost to start n good sunny spells. 28th small bit of snow and frost visable in the mornin. 29th cloudy & a few light showers. 30th Mostly cloudy no meatballs. 31st Mild n cloudy. 1st Feb Good sunny spells. 2nd sunny spells then overcast wiv light scattered showers on n off. 3rd a few short sunny spells but mostly overcast with a shower or two. 4th back to cooler again with good sunny spells. 5th -1/-2 Frosty start clearing by 11 a.m great sunny cool day 6th to be cont.. On 05 Feb 2020, Paddy, Aberdeen South, sub, 130m elevation wrote: 1˚C at 7.30, a very still and sunny day with a max temp of 7˚, perfect winter’s day, well, kind of because our daffodils are showing their flower buds even if they’re only 4 inches high, the birds are beginning to warble and the grass is growing in our fields and has a green lustre to it that you normally only see in the spring, max temp 7˚, back down to 1˚ by 10pm. On 05 Feb 2020, Tony ex sub wrote: Thanks rhys.....I was thinking on same lines ...... On 05 Feb 2020, Colin wrote: Hi all yes reject slandered and liar tesla musk the future car will be hydrogen fuel cell or hydrogen combustion engines . Battery cars are useless toys. We can use hydro electric solar and wind to generate the hydrogen by electrolysis of water . Or even coal fired power stations which capture co2 to make the hydrogen all vehicles can then be hydrogen powered. No need for Middle East oil anymore. . It will benefit humans not just the rich corporations. It should be govern mentioned owned. We need to limit co2 emissions because it causes global cooling . This is why the jet stream is wild the upper atmosphere is actually cooling due to c02 emitting more radiation to space. This makes the temp difference between the warm and cold air greater causing more extreme weather. My theory is proven by empirical evidence of weather balloons proving colder upper troposphere. The ippc know this but ignore it as it disproves their fake warming lies. On 05 Feb 2020, AndyB 45d sub wrote: The problem with hydrogen fuel for cars is it has to be made with fossil fuel and it is also very explosive On 05 Feb 2020, claude grayson wrote: finally down to a decent temp 0600 11* 87% hum and calm. cldy around the edges. dont do hot too well,.20* is warm enough the greens are loony,as are those who follow them unthinkingly. it really does seem that no one has done the maths on sustainablity of EVs .A Prof.Ian Plimer in oz has written a book ,NOT for GREENS,where he has done the calcs.on the carbon footprint of lots of so called green stuff. i see on Eldorado site there is a large snow event happening in USA.warmest in 86y then 2days later 2-5in snow. On 05 Feb 2020, Mark Hall wrote: Geoff, The electrolysis of water into constituent hydrogen and oxygen will still require 20 to 30 times more electric generating capacity than we have now. I can't see where all of that is going to come from. Maria, Welcome back, but you will be getting us confused again with your namesake in Ireland. On 05 Feb 2020, Rhys Jaggar wrote: Tony Iceagenow.info is also something I have read for several years, more just to see where some snow or cold weather is happening. It is one of the few places that actually reports them. The site is extremely selective in how it reports, never reporting on counterbalancing warmth and it suppresses any reader comments who try to point that out. I have said six times on that site this winter that Europe is mild: that does not mean global warming, it means weather data. Suppressed! I actually think Felix has some useful things to say re underwater volcanoes, which scientists started looking at 20 years after he first posited their importance. Magnetic reversals are also worth learning about. But he has books to sell and website hits to generate, so he has an agenda too..... On 05 Feb 2020, maria somerset wrote: yay, I have re-subscribed for 12 months after a long break, I downsized and moved house in the same county. Its a real spring day here, uplifting and sunny and very calm On 05 Feb 2020, Istvan ilyes wrote: I notice that Piers has commented on the supposed storm Ciara heading for the UK. Any one have further to add? On 05 Feb 2020, Colin wrote: Hi all leeds UK basking in 7c global warming is here lol. No need to go to Spain for sun lol an end of snow has arrived lol London soon to be a lake lol boris sinks his electric car .sounds like BBC propaganda gorbels style lol On 05 Feb 2020, Geoff wrote: From what I hear, the future won't be electric it will be 2nd generation hydrogen. Toyota Corp. signalled this the other day and Autocar reports that the state of California has been putting tens of millions into hydrogen feasibility studies...Fuel tanks can be fully filled from converted forecourt pumps in 2 mins, the range is almost the same as petrol, no loss of performance in very cold weather, no massive nationwide infrastructure building required etc, etc. On 05 Feb 2020, Tony ex sub wrote: For a few years now I've been looking at ice age now site what is the feeling on here about what they write ????is it all true facts ...scaremongering ????I'd be interested to know from the more knowledgeable people on here their thoughts ...ty On 04 Feb 2020, Paul (sub) SE UK wrote: Thanks for the interesting posts on CFC and ice loss, all! ////// Re: BoJo committing us to seemingly unachievable shifts to EVs, has anyone done the maths on total fossil fuel consumption (i.e. energy use) of vehicles in the UK and converted it to what extra capacity the grid would need / what extra power supplies (fossil/nuclear/'green') would need to come online by 2035 onwards (assuming fleet turnover would mean most vehicles being EV in, say, 10 years)? I really cannot see how 40million vehicles / 70 million people travelling an average of, what, 6000 road miles? each year could be supplied as it stands now - we've already seen the grid stretched when demand is high (a recent hot summer IIRC?) and that's without EVs sucking power out of the system... On 04 Feb 2020, Gerry Surrey-Kent border 164ft wrote: Wet is certainly been as our pitch has not hosted a home game since November. Before the snow fans get too disappointed I can tell you that the Spring ploughing matches near to me are set for 29 March. 2 years ago both matches were cancelled due to the snow! One was at Chertsey and the other Tonbridge. And with all this car stuff, the first battery vehicle only street comes to London next month. On 04 Feb 2020, Mark Hall wrote: Claude, I don't think the CFC stuff invalidates Ozone depletion causing extra UV penetration. Those polar explorers had a terrible time with their complexions when they tried to break into Hollywood. But I think the heat engine of the planet at the tropics is where extra UV really counts. And the heartbeat of the Sun rules over this. On 04 Feb 2020, Paddy, Aberdeen South, sub, 130m elevation wrote: 5˚C at 7.30, a few clouds in a still strong W’ly wind, sunny morning and afternoon with a max temp of 7˚, wind suddenly dropping around 3pm, clear early evening and feeling like a hard frost was on the way, but then it clouded over and started feeling milder, 2˚ at 8.30pm. == C View, I hardly watch TV anymore so didn’t catch that - bring it on, I say! The French will really worry when we get going with our wine production :-) On 04 Feb 2020, Gordon wrote: Nick, Thank you for the link. Very interesting. Gordon On 04 Feb 2020, Mark Hall wrote: CView, The AGW Climate fraud is a very dangerous nettle to grasp. Johnson might be biding his time. Greenwashing is all the rage, especially with the large corporations and finance houses. They talk the talk, but rarely walk the walk. Only political imbeciles like Carney, Miliband and JC really believed the codswallop. Johnson might be a different kind of fish, after all he sacked all the Climate Envoys when he was Foreign Secretary. And he got rid of that O'Neill woman who would have signed the UK up to all kinds of nonsense at COP26 in Glasgow this November. Who knows? But loading up on cheapish Oil Major shares paying 7% dividends still sounds like a good idea to me. They'll still be around when TESLA has burned through all the money it has borrowed. On 04 Feb 2020, claude grayson wrote: back to real weather,0600 16* , 73%hum, partly cldy and a 14k breeze,after a too warm day of 31'5*and a gusty NW of 60k.and then they threw in a light earthquake ,just when the rain ,too light and brief to register ,began.. . On 04 Feb 2020, claude grayson wrote: Mark, interesting concept. back in 2000 i studied a uni paper on physical geography,and the Text we used gave one of the formulas for Ozone depletion,caused by cloroflorocarbons interacting with it.----ClO+O3 decays to Cl +2 O2, Cl + O3 decays to ClO + O2. they gave no way of stopping the reaction once started and one molecule of ClO will destroy 100 000,molecules of Ozone..Must admit to having ?s about it ,due to what i have observed.namely IF thicker O3 did affect the weather ,then if the O3 layer got to be as thick as in some parts it would be hellishly cold.But then compare the O3 map with where its been snowy, with where its been snow free. like i say, i dont know and its maybe just a coincdence and just looks like it affects it. On 04 Feb 2020, C View wrote: Ron and Paddy, Did you see the Scottish News yesterday when the presenter tried to keep a straight face as she read a story about new research saying how Scotland should prepare for hotter drier summers like that of 2018,. That kind of of forecast is hardly likely to scare anyone north of Gretna , I'm pretty sure anyone hearing that would be punching the air shouting yeeeeessss ya beauty!! Oh how disappointed they will be.... On 04 Feb 2020, Geoff wrote: Makes you wonder if Al & Greta have yet been warned to lawyer-up...cos when things start to go very wrong for them, they'll personally be facing multi-billion-dollar class action lawsuits from businesses, corporations and 'damaged' citizens right around the globe. On 04 Feb 2020, C View wrote: Very disappointed to see that Mr B Johnstone of Downing Street London, has decided to get rid of the internal combustion engine in just 15 years time. The irony of this is it was a mention of Piers in a 2010 article in the Daily Telegraph that led to me seeing the light and being able to move away from the warmist orthodoxy. Maybe the time has come for Piers to write a letter to Downing Street before our impoverished electricity grid is crippled by attempting to charge millions of EV's On 04 Feb 2020, Nick, Berks wrote: Gordon, too many unknowns to be certain but it's quite possible it would do. Rignot summarises net ice loss. Even at this rate (~250 Gt/yr) it's still smaller than the annual flux of ~2000 Gt / yr which is mostly snowfall balanced by evaporation/sublimation, baseline melting and calving. It can be quite difficult to wrap your head around the scale of Antarctica. Suffice to say that all of the numbers are massive which is why it can be easy to overestimate the effects of volcanoes. Large as the large berg noted in 1854 was, it's still dwarfed by iceberg B-15 in 2000 - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iceberg_B-15. You might find this overview from 2015 interesting: https://www.pnas.org/content/112/11/3263. Meanwhile, at 7C rather cooler here today than the 12C of yesterday but still nothing to write home about. On 04 Feb 2020, Mark Hall wrote: Claude, Paul, The Ozone holes over the poles have nothing to do with CFCs. Stratospheric cooling causes them to wax and wane in natural cycles. The two dudes who came up with the idea that refrigerators were causing catastrophic ozone depletion used to work for Dow Chemicals and the Dupont Corporation. Their work could not be reproduced by any other scientists, but the Montreal Convention was adopted anyway. It was handy for these two companies, because their CFC patents were running out and even handier that they had HFC replacements lined up to take their place. Sally Baliunas has documented this scam which for all intents and purposes was the test pilot for today's CO2 scam. On 03 Feb 2020, claude grayson wrote: Paul ,i dont know and was hoping others more experinced may know. its just an observation,continuing over the last year or so. wondering why the two seem to coincide so often. for those number crunchers out there, Fiordland just had over the last 2and a half days to 7am today ,1000mm rain, 600 of that in the last 24hrs. been seen before just not as short a time frame.but they dont say how much shorter so could only be a few minutes.its a bugger having to doubt every thing the Met folk say now and ? it all. On 03 Feb 2020, Paddy, Aberdeen South, sub, 130m elevation wrote: 0˚C at 7.30, fine and frosty with a Way wind that gained in strength during the day, splendidly sunny all morning, clouds gathering in the afternoon being pushed along by the wind, max temp 6˚, down to 4˚ by 9pm. On 03 Feb 2020, Paul (sub) SE UK wrote: Interesting comments re: Ozone. I can't look at the site/links right now but I would pose the question - how does the hole in the Ozone layer over the South Pole (which has been known about for, what, 25 years?? and led to the ban on CFCs, IIRC) tie with alleged ice loss from the Antarctic Ice Sheet? If the whole area or a small area within it is receiving increased solar energy in the high-energy UV spectrum due to low/missing Ozone, could that lead / has that lead to ice loss overall and/or in a particular area? (Does Ozone act as a block for anything else, such as solar particles?) On 03 Feb 2020, Rich wrote: On a lighter note, I may have jumped slightly early with preparation's for the impending LIA, have a large surplus of de icer, screen wash, snow shovels, sledges, thermals etc etc, all unused. Was thinking of reinvesting in air conditioning for the LIA summers! Any takers.... On 03 Feb 2020, Gordon wrote: Nick , sorry i'm not aware of ice loss to volcano power ration. But is their enough room left on your envelope to work out how much ice was contained in the icebergs with the excessive number recorded it may even exceed the loss based on Rignot et al(2019). Gordon On 03 Feb 2020, claude grayson wrote: sorry Glenn ,darker blue is a hole,220 ppm is considered a hole.scroll down and check their color bar. On 03 Feb 2020, claude grayson wrote: still no relief from this warm weather.17.7 o/n L..0600 19.2, hi Ac and higher Cirrus. NW wafts of 12k.hit 26.5* yesterday and a NZ hi of 40*. Glenn, have a look at NASA Ozone Watch, for part of the reason you guys arent getting snow this year and read the Wiki page on Ozone..to me it ties in that if o3 blocks UV then if its thin then more UV hits us and heats up the ground and sea more ,both of which take a long time to cool.and you guys havent had thick o3 for awhile now,us neither.whereas the US and Canada have .Most of the world is almost under a Ozone hole if their pic.is correct..Pale blue is a hole.less than 220ppm. On 03 Feb 2020, Glenn wrote: Today is 3rd February and still there has not been one single flake of snow this winter. What the hell is actually going on? And we have people promoting these mild winters even though they know they are playing into the hands of the warmists. As a result of this winter expect to see climate change taxes which were specifically introduced because of all the previous mild winters since 1988 to rise again in Britain this year. On 03 Feb 2020, claude grayson wrote: just looked at the 3pm rnz news..milford road closed with flooding. expecting another 100-250mm of rain in next 24h... dont it make you glad we all live in more hospitable parts. went to sec,school with a guy who lived in a place like that . hardly ever got less than 100mm at any time and a yearly dumping of 4000mm minimun.. asked the Met if it would be true and they said yep.he lived in Ohura,W coast of N.I NZ. On 02 Feb 2020, Nick, Berks wrote: Gordon, interesting article. It seems Mt. Erebus (the most active volcano in Antarctica) was observed erupting as early as 1840. It seems unlikely they were right on the iceberg cause though otherwise it would be well documented by now. Fun fact for the day based on a back of an envelope calculation based on Rignot et al (2019): https://www.pnas.org/content/116/4/1095. Over the last decade the WAIS has lost about 1,500 trillion large barrow loads of ice per year and the EAS about 500 trillion / year. How many volcanoes worth do you reckon that would be? On 02 Feb 2020, Paddy, Aberdeen South, sub, 130m elevation wrote: -3˚C at 7.30, ground well frozen, cloudy but fairly bright, light SW’ly wind mostly, no proper sunshine, temps rising through the morning and eventually reaching 3˚, still that by 9pm, moon visible through the cloud veil, ditto for the stars in the gaps. On 02 Feb 2020, claude grayson wrote: 0600, 19.3* 93% hum,odd gusts 24k WNW..cldy and a few brief shs o/n,too light to record. was looking through an old Met,diary,from when i did vol .obs.,out in the sticks.way back in the 80/90s,and wished i could light a huge fire to punch a hole through the Strata cu ,that had hung over us for a week or so,and the july when we had 5days when no rain fell out of 31. days of wet become tedious.at least in snow you can enjoy the cold but wet at 3deg is not plesant. the media now control the world.not polititians,so until the crap weather really hits and everyone can see its not CO2 doing it we are all stuffed.they will only report that which supports their warped view and destroy any who oppose that view. On 02 Feb 2020, David (Yorkshire) wrote: Colin, what are you basing your Siberian winds on?? More stormy weather seems far more likely to me based on the state of play! On 01 Feb 2020, olin wrote: hi fools just because we had a few mild days due to wild Jetstream wait until this same wild jet stream brings -20c air from Siberia the daffodils will soon die . co2 cannot attain 2500 deg c which it needs to do to increase the rest of the atmosphere by +1c . because there is 2500 times more oxygen and nitrogen in the air than 0.04% c02. you warmist fools listen to piers and other non corrupted eminent real scientist not truanting silly Scholl girls . and bbc crazies. remember this when you are trudging through 6 feet of snow its coming soon On 01 Feb 2020, olin wrote: hi piers - usa storm florida low temps causing reptiles to die of cold shock reported on media as climate change storm due to man made climate change - same for massive snowstorms in north east and north west usa . they are correct because more co2 causes cooling especially as we are in a low solar cycle as well = mini ice age coming in next 5-10 yrs the thames will freeze over and greta can go skating lol. no need to worry about rising sea levels due to warming - worry about ice sheets covering north usa and norh Europe . satellites report increased radiation coming from earth into space - this is due to incread co2and other gasses emitting radiation = earth is cooling plus lower solar activity = mini ice age more snow = more reflected radiation = more cold = more ice sheets = runaway cooling ?? = will we get carbon our taxes back when new york is covered in half a mile of ice and snow and the north sea is a shallow frozen lake maybe we can engineer wolly mammoths. On 01 Feb 2020, colin wrote: hi piers - the bbc are now naming all storms man made climate change systems - they have dropped human names like storm Brendan - in my las post I deliberately incorrectly said warm seas absorb co2 , as this is what the warmists say it causes ocean acidification - but the ocean is ph 8.1 / 8.2 which is alkaline . more co2 in atmosphere actually causes cooling because high up it is too cold -60 -80c so there is no water vapour and co2 dominates emitting radiation to space which is -273 degrees C co2 is a very good radiation emmiter better than absorbing. so more heat is lost to space with higher c02 levels than before with lower c02 levels. hence the world is actually cooling. that is why there is a cold spot where the warmists looked for a hot sopt high up in the atmosphere. they just blamed the balloons and ignored the real empirical evidence as usual Nazis do On 01 Feb 2020, Paddy, Aberdeen South, sub, 130m elevation wrote: 6˚C at 7.30, still strong SW’ly wind, quite cloudy with drizzle initially but eventually some sporadic sunshine came along in the afternoon, max temp 9˚, wind turning into the NW and slowing down, 1˚ by 9pm under a clear sky. == Ron, I’m nae really the fashin’ type, mair tryin’ tae be fashionable but it disnae seem tae work oot wi the funcy dames :-( On 01 Feb 2020, claude grayson wrote: just another boring summer day.17* o/n L, 0600 18* ,85%h, cldy with chance driz. NW gusting 24k. weathers as changable and moody as a coffee adict who hasnt had their morning fix. On 01 Feb 2020, Mark Hall wrote: C View, Because of the numerous papers published on aggregate ice sheet gains in Antarctica it has become vitally important for tiny barrow pushers to concentrate on a smaller western section where there has been some melting. This will undoubtably save the day for the AGW religion if they pretend that WAIS is representative of the whole continent. And they will also need to ignore all those ships full of climate junkies that keep getting trapped in the ice. However any research that indicates a geothermal cause for this anomalous melting will have to be discounted for the trick to work. It should be easy. They can throw out anything that does not reference AGW for a start. After all it's pathological sophistry that counts in the climate game nowadays. On 01 Feb 2020, Gordon wrote: In relation to Possible volcanic eruption in Antartic this historical artle may be of interest https://www.thegwpf.com/1901-scientists-think-break-off-of-antarctic-icebergs-due-to-volcanic-activity/ On 01 Feb 2020, Ron Greer wrote: Dinnae fash yersel PADDY, there will be weather in England tomorrow and what you get will be irrelevant. From now on, if there's fog in the Channel, the Continent will be isolated. If you hear of another Aberdeen woman being lost at sea, in a Press and Journal headline, it just means that the Titanic has sunk again. Oops predictive spelling has blown in on the wind; should have been TitanUK. On 31 Jan 2020, Paddy, Aberdeen South, sub, 130m elevation wrote: 5˚C at 7.30, cloudy with a less cold SW’ly wind than in recent days, temps rising during the morning reaching a high of 12˚, sun coming out in the afternoon and wind strengthening to almost a gale at times, clearish evening with quite a few start, still 9˚ at 9pm. == Whatever you do tonight, enjoy Dominic Frisby with his (updated) Brexit song https://bit.ly/3b30DCu - not for Remainers or sensitive souls :-). I wonder, will there be weather tomorrow? On 31 Jan 2020, Geoff wrote: ...Don't get your hopes up, CView, you'll probably be getting raw kelp. On 31 Jan 2020, C View wrote: Is this a better source than iceagenow? https://phys.org/news/2018-06-volcanic-source-major-antarctic-glacier.html On 31 Jan 2020, claude grayson wrote: the larger problem with all debates,is as has always been, very few ever resolve . each side gets too close to their own view and can no longer see the big picture,because their little one blocks the big,just as in an eclipse, and the difference between how Piers views the weather and the Met. who would you trust . i observe that those who look at the larger pic are generally closer to the truth , foremost, because their barrow is too full to push so they dont. other lesser ,small minded ones need to be vocal more, due to their small area of knowledge ,and tiny barrows. On 31 Jan 2020, C View wrote: Nick, wow your dead clever , I'm off to have dinner with Greta On 31 Jan 2020, Nick, Berk wrote: C View, short answer is no and I inwardly groaned when I saw you using iceagenow as a source: readers with longer memories may recall the 'growing NZ glaciers' debacle. The papers referenced are in of themselves interesting but since not one (I guess you never looked at them) makes any comparison of current AGW to the quantum of sub ice sheet geothermal flux they are definitively incapable of supporting the iceagenow headline conclusion that "Three new research studies confirm that geothermal heat flow, not man-made global warming, is the dominant cause of West Antarctic Ice Sheet (WAIS) melting,”. So lie or ineptitude - you choose. I could go on in more detail but I won't because if you don't want to believe you won't. A quote however from the 1st paper (not the linked press release): "volcanic heat does not contribute significantly to the glacial melt observed in the ocean at the front of the ice shelf." And all minuscule compared to AGW. On 31 Jan 2020, C View wrote: Debate between M Lewis & Nick Berks. Is this feature of any help? https://www.iceagenow.info/volcanoes-melting-west-antarctic-glaciers-not-global-warming/ On 31 Jan 2020, Rich wrote: Well said Nick, we did land on the Moon and JFK probably want shot by CIA and Aliens didn't land at Roswell etc etc. And no the wider scientific community, news weather channels, governments etc etc aren't conspiring to deliberately mislead (they could be wrong to be fair) the downtrodden subjucated masses about the weather (plenty of other things to mislead us over). As to ongoing mild weather, as somebody commented on another Website, 'If this Winter is the Ghost of Winters yet to come, I'm glad I was born when I was- a long time ago. Me too! On 31 Jan 2020, Tony ex sub wrote: 1st winter I can remember as a postman so many snowdrops and daffs blooming ........have been for the last 2 weeks .....not had 1 flake of snow here so far ....very little frost ..ice .. ..been more windy than normal and deff more rain ... On 31 Jan 2020, claude grayson wrote: wow our met finally realized that in the southern hemisphere you cant get Northerly winds from the eastern side of a high pressure system and updated the map.nor do we get strong wind from wide isobars...someone maybe biked to work and couldnt figure why it was so hard. so finally we got a more accurate map and now the strong wind we have makes sense.had many gusts 68k+ with nice lentic stacked along the ranges. On 30 Jan 2020, Nick, Berks wrote: MLewis: The Guardian article dates from 2017 and the same story was also covered at the time by lots of other MSM, including Sky and the Daily Mail. The BBC also had this two months later. https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/amp/science-environment-41972297. Why do you think you are being lied to? UAH satellite data - see http://www.drroyspencer.com/2020/01/uah-global-temperature-update-for-december-2019-0-56-deg-c/ shows that each successive decade since the 1980s, during a period of decreasing solar activity, has been warmer than the last. Dormant volcanoes in Antarctica have nothing to do with it. Accept it, move on and be a little less free with the conspiracy theories. On 30 Jan 2020, Paddy, Aberdeen South, sub, 130m elevation wrote: 6˚C at 7.30, overcast with the familiar SW’ly wind, strengthening by midday and gradually turning into the W, sunny afternoon with a max temp of 8˚, wind occasionally touching sub gale force, first quarter moon (almost) spreading quite a bit of light already & making the stars pale, 7˚ by 9.30pm. Wife’s sister-in-law near Paris sent a pic of wild daffodils beginning to flower in woods. Felled some balsam poplars yesterday that we planted 28 years ago, not huge calorific value but still keeps the stove going, when dried for a couple of years, that is. On 30 Jan 2020, claude grayson wrote: another summer morning, 0600 temp 16. 3d mostly cldy and a 20k+ wind so w/chill cool. GW must have miss us out....i see there is quite a storm brewing off alaska . On 30 Jan 2020, Geoff wrote: Don't think I'm going to use the term 'Little Ice Age' for a while...Friends in the UK are starting to interpret it as meaning an 'age of very little ice'. On 30 Jan 2020, Rhys Jaggar wrote: Given the next four days are predicting temperatures of 10-13C across each 24hr period, I have put my prize exhibition onion seedlings out of doors for four days to 'harden them off' a little and to expose them to a little natural rainfall. Most unusual to do this in January: normally late February is my first effort for this.... On 30 Jan 2020, Rich wrote: First Daffodils out in SE Camb's, Hawthorn buds swelling and cracking, on target for a very early spring. A wetter/less sunny version of last winter on the whole but very mild - potential if Feb works out as standard forecasts predict, to be in top ten warmest winters ever for UK. You can see why public buy into Global warming. Too early probably to say but looks like winter 2019/20 RIP- more of an autumn continuity. Even a 2018 cold snap in Feb, unlikely currently, will see a mild winter for the UK overall. Fingers crossed for another LIA warm summer again! On 30 Jan 2020, M Lewis wrote: Re: Antarctica Volcanoes under the ice sheet. https://www.theguardian.com/world/2017/aug/12/scientists-discover-91-volcanos-antarctica Why does the BBC News not report this fact! We are being lied to by the UK Establishment. On 30 Jan 2020, Ron Greer wrote: DAVID ( Yorkshire) By and large agree ,David, ( as we did in our projections earlier in the winter), though up here we can still get severe weather into March and occasionally April ( eg 1986) On 29 Jan 2020, C View wrote: Just seen the real reason Antarctic ice is melting. Scientist or at least people claiming to be scientists are using jets of boiling water to cut holes through the ice to get to the underlying sea On 29 Jan 2020, Paddy, Aberdeen South, sub, 130m elevation wrote: 0˚C at 7.30, sharp & cold SW’ly wind for most of the day, overcast and frosty to begin with, temps rising to 4˚ max and still at that level by 10pm. On 29 Jan 2020, Fred wrote: Mark Hall Indeed, how can manmade CO2 warm very deep water quicker than air? I mean really? It’s just laughable but not funny!!! On 29 Jan 2020, David (Yorkshire) wrote: 4 weeks left for any decent wintry weather down south, maybe 5 up here. However as previously stated, I just can't see it happening. First flakes of season yesterday but did not settle. Hopefully not a wet spring but one suspects that will be the case. On 29 Jan 2020, Mark Hall wrote: Fred, I read that ludicrous article about the climate science team investigating the puzzle of Western Antarctic melting. In quite a long piece the BBC guy failed to mention increased undersea vulcanism as a possible cause of the warming waters. Instead they just assumed anthropogenic causes and that their only problem was to establish how CO2 was doing it. The propaganda is nauseating me quite a lot nowadays. Seriously considering cancelling my TV licence over this and their anti-Brexit campaign. On 29 Jan 2020, claude grayson wrote: 0600 19.3* 85% hum. gusting 30-40k partly cloudy and pos shw forcast. far better than whats forcast for alaska and BC. just checked Eldorado pic of the day. worth a look if you live somewhere near. Piers, is the river part of the jetstream? On 29 Jan 2020, Ron Greer wrote: First time there's been 2 consecutive days with snow lying here this winter. I underestimated the GFS vacillation---the severe PM outbreak on the 4-6th has just simply disappeared off the chart--aren't these standard models wonderful!? On 28 Jan 2020, Paddy, Aberdeen South, sub, 130m elevation wrote: 0˚C at 7.30, a token dusting of snow, barely one mm, another fairly sunny day with a light SW’ly breeze. Any piece of ground not touched by sunlight remained frozen for the day, even with a max temp of 4˚, stars out amongst the clouds at night, 0˚ by 9pm. On 28 Jan 2020, claude grayson wrote: here at 40.35 S 175.61E alt 30m, our weather at 0600,18.4* 97% hum ,low cld with drizzle. .3mm o/n, .9 yesterday. just enough to tease the plants.. Ron our met keep forcasting rain 8/10 days out, but it fizzles before we get there. On 28 Jan 2020, Rhys Jaggar wrote: Stephen It is quite rare for the SE of England to actually 'see the worst of the weather'. The only two scenarios really are a 'Beast from the SE' which does occasionally bring huge snow from Siberia (about once a decade in my lifetime) and the odd hurricane on a more southerly track like in 1987. I was living in Glasgow then and we 'only' had winds of 50 - 60mph, which up there is just a normal autumnal gale. The fact is though that we have had eight months in a row with well above average rainfall, the period July-Sep was far far warmer than average and this winter so far has been very mild. The best test of mildness is how many times you have to hoe off new surface annual weeds germinating in your autumn laid compost in the veg patch: I have done it three times so far this winter! Most unusual.... On 28 Jan 2020, stephen parker wrote: Yep, in southern Briton we seem to be missing the worst weather, though my god its been wet.Remember folks mild and average dont sell forecasts! On 28 Jan 2020, Fred wrote: Colin Warm seas RELEASE CO2 not absorb. Also the latest climate fear story on BBC re the glacier melting in Western Antarctica.....from underneath. Well it ain’t CO2 warmed atmosphere melting it is it? Ridiculous alarmism of alleged man made causation. The seas have warmed first, also of interest the last cyclical ‘warm pulse’ of natural current circulation entered the Arctic 17/18, this NH winter has seen a ‘remarkable’ ice recovery in the arctic with Maisie reports snd ground temp reports of incredible cold in the arctic. The seas up there are cooling, trouble ahead. Piers any comments from you re the recovery up there and the widespread arctic cold? On 28 Jan 2020, Ron Greer wrote: Another Xmas card scene here this morning (at 140 metres), only the second of this winter, though we've had a handful of days with snow falling. GFS is predicting a very severe PM on the 4-6th of Feb with 850hpa temps of -10 to -15C covering most of the UK with a direct northerly flow. Recent experience suggests that this will end up becoming less severe, more westerly or just go further east and miss us entirely. However if it does hit us, then it will very likely cause some damage to plants flushing early because of the very mild winter to date. On 28 Jan 2020, Paul wrote: This BBC video seems to suggest that CO2 readings are taken from (just) one weather station in Hawaii - that can't be right, surely???: https://www.bbc.co.uk/weather/features/51127701 On 27 Jan 2020, Paddy, Aberdeen South, sub, 130m elevation wrote: 1˚C at 7.30, cold SW’ly wind, hearing reports of snow in the West but here we had a sunny day with a max temp of 4˚, down to -1˚ by 9.30pm. Spectacular view of a 3-day old moon below Venus in the SW tonight. On 27 Jan 2020, Colin wrote: Well piers I have info on good authority that they are faking the c02 levels they are a lot lower than the climate frauds say . Ask a independent lab to do.samples . Also taking c02 levels on an active volcano isn't the brightest idea for getting good readings as we all know volcanoes pour out massive amounts of co2. And we know that the warm sea will absorb all of the man made c02 so it's just more fake fraud for the content to sell it to dummy public On 27 Jan 2020, claude grayson wrote: a beautiful autumn morning.at 6am temp of 16.9 and 95% hum,and the paddocks on the north side covered in groundfog abt 2 m thick,for as far as can see. On 27 Jan 2020, Haydn Jones wrote: Eday, Orkney, so far, the mildest winter I have known in 18 years here., But windier than average. A couple 18 inch high Chinese pair trees in the garden (yes outside) have yet to lose their leaves. Very weird On 27 Jan 2020, claude grayson wrote: Tony and Ron, i think i said once before abt how ive noticed the relationship ,if there is, between how thick the ozone is and what weather we get. the US and other parts have thick, and its been thin over you guys in UK. ive been observing it for a bit down here and when its thicker we get crap,and thin better,but hot. check out. ' NASA ozone watch' and see what you think. seems to be part of the weather,or maybe just a long coincidence.rem. the maps are 3-4 days old. On 26 Jan 2020, Paddy, Aberdeen South, sub, 130m elevation wrote: 6˚C at 7.30, cloudy for most of the day with some light rain in the morning, a max temp of 7˚ and a cold SW’ly wind, clear starlit night with -1˚ by 9pm. Lots of snow over the N Atlantic according to Ventusky, not sure whether it’ll reach us. Yes, Ron, the days on end with SW’lies has been remarkable this winter. I understand what you mean, Tony, the LIA is certainly not biting yet in the BI in terms of cold, though in other parts of the world the extremes are remarkable. On 26 Jan 2020, Ron Greer wrote: Looks like 3 days of quasi-winter Polar Maritime air up[ here then back to the southerlies/south westerlies from the south Atlantic that have characterized the winter since late December. In Nov/early Dec standard models were quite good at predicted the direction of the PM air, but since then the direct northerly component has been overestimated and the actuality is more westerly. On 26 Jan 2020, Tony ex sub wrote: Ok record cold in parts of Russia.....record snow in parts of north America......lia possibly ???but why here in the uk are we not experiencing anything remotely record breaking . .here in Northamptonshire like last few years winter is a complete non event so far . .I know the old we are an island warm waters etc etc but you can see why the warmists over here are jumping on the band wagon ......surely we should be experiencing some cold snowy weather????been on this site a few years now was once a sub but sorry to say the forecasts for my area were not good .....each year has been oh 2018/19 it will become cooler then2019/2020 ...still not a lot of action ......sorry to say the faith is dwindling tho I still wont go for climate warmth either On 25 Jan 2020, Paddy, Aberdeen South, sub, 130m elevation wrote: 4˚C at 7.30, now finally getting perceptibly lighter in the morning as well as evening, quite clear, cool SW’ly wind blowing all day, mixed bag of sunshine & clouds, max temp 6˚, stars peeping through the clouds at night, 5˚ at 9pm. == Claude Grayson, good comment re human adaptability: three days ago we had a max of 12˚ and felt like working outside in shirtsleeves, whereas when we get that kind of temp in July we think it damn cold! On holiday in the S of France last Sept, when it was 20˚ at night we needed a jacket. On 25 Jan 2020, claude grayson wrote: something that intrigues me is how adaptable the human spieces is,esp to climate . which of you lives furthest N of the equator or nearest to it. then at what temp,do you wear just T shirts or go swimming. i heard on the radio one day of a couple of NZers who were now living in Dubai,and they had adapted to the point where they only went swimming above 40deg.whereas here they would swim at 20deg.and they had jerseys on because the temp was only 35C O/n temp here was 13.1 at 4am with clear sky by 5 am 15 and cloudy,97% hum.. On 24 Jan 2020, Paddy, Aberdeen South, sub, 130m elevation wrote: 5˚C at 7.30, quite cloudy to begin with but turning into a reasonably sunny morning with a max temp of 8˚, light winds from a generally W’ly direction, cloudy afternoon with light rain by early evening, partially clear at night, 4˚ at 9pm. On 24 Jan 2020, claude grayson wrote: another warmish nite,temp didnt drop below 15* with above 80%hum,and a forcast high for some parts of 35*. currently 15.3* 91%hum,and calm cloudy. On 24 Jan 2020, Ron Greer wrote: Well back to the Atlantic roller coaster from tomorrow, mainly mild with short bursts of cooler PM air. Daffodils already 6 inches high. No prospect of really cold weather for at least 10 days. On 23 Jan 2020, Paddy, Aberdeen South, sub, 130m elevation wrote: 3˚C at 7.30, but plenty of frost on the ground, another really sunny day though less warm than yesterday with a max temp of 8˚, light SW’ly breeze for most of the day, cloudier in the evening from the cold front passing NW to SE over the country, still 5˚ at 9pm. On 23 Jan 2020, Colinp wrote: Hi piers yes USA has severe winter storms and press trump is no fool easily rebuking young rascal greata as a doomsday prophet In the old testament prophets whose prophesies did not come true were stoned to death. Why doesn't press trump have all the climate change crazies stoned to death . And the BBC blatant propaganda machine should be burned Just because the low winter sun has shined for a few Jan days after a week of storm weather. So what does this mean the world will end in ten years . Absolute garbage from BBC natzis Can they tell how can co2 defy the laws of thermodynamics answer become hotter than the earth and make the earth hotter ridiculous poppycock know from BBC. The Australian drought is over and the south African rains have begun but no word from auntie Just wait till beast from East comes to UK in Feb we can all have a nice ice sheet in London as the Thames freezes greata can go skating . USA Democrats want to spend 94 trillion dollars on pre On 23 Jan 2020, Paul, Bedfordshire wrote: Here is another read about what is warming the planet. Or was until quite recently and has now gone into reverse. https://electroverse.net/evidence-for-cloud-albedo-control-of-earths-climate/ On 23 Jan 2020, Fred wrote: Michael It says its man made CO2....nuff said Fred On 23 Jan 2020, claude grayson wrote: I think the Gw believers know in their inner selves that they have been misled,and would love to change their views but Ego and pride etc wont let them yet.one day perhaps,but not in the near future. this morning is 100% cloud with drizzle,after the warmest nite so far of summer.hasnt dropped below 17.9 for nearly 24hr. can they really not see that water vapour traps far more heat than any co2. On 23 Jan 2020, Michael wrote: A very interesting read on what's causing the warming and cooling of our planet. https://www.bloomberg.com/graphics/2015-whats-warming-the-world/?fbclid=IwAR3iR7skfeRt2nkQ8L5-3bwKnupHA28l4N8bgI_zZv7-ioJMz9ot01HB6S8 On 22 Jan 2020, Paul (sub) SE UK wrote: Well, in news that will shock, er, no-one with a brain... the Aus Bush is beginning its recovery from wildfires already: https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/av/world-australia-51186238/australia-fires-incredible-signs-of-life-return-to-burned-bush On 22 Jan 2020, Paddy, Aberdeen South, sub, 130m elevation wrote: 6˚C at 7.30, barely a breeze from the SW and feeling mild, mostly sunny again with a max temp of 12˚, I would have to go through my records to see when this last happened in January though I’m sure it is not unprecedented. Cloudy evening, still 9˚ at 9.30pm. We have some wallflowers in bloom and we’ve had a primrose open since December, growing in the wall of the old loading ramp. The birds are also beginning to tune up. On 22 Jan 2020, Mike Ellwood wrote: My mother's Daily Mail is fully of news about Canada's present (real) "climate emergency" - Severe snowstorms in Newfoundland and Labrador. My own Grauniad? - not so much... At least it is on the BBC website: https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/av/world-us-canada-51168462/canada-snowstorms-state-of-emergency-declared We heard from my sister, who lives on Vancouver Island, that they'd had several feet of snow the other weekend, which is fairly unusual in that part of Canada. On 22 Jan 2020, claude grayson wrote: today was unexpected drizzle all morning after a low of 14* o/n. finally after m.dy the cloud broke.. just had a look at Eldorado pic of day,.bit of blurb re jet stream and the Pineapple express. On 21 Jan 2020, Paddy, Aberdeen South, sub, 130m elevation wrote: 4˚C at 7.30, Vimtogrope said we were going to be overcast all day but it turned out very sunny and mild with a max temp of 8˚, only cloudy from time to time with a light wind varying from SW to NW, still 6˚ at 9.30pm. Winter seems to have been suspended for the time being but it’s still got 3 months or more to catch up, on past form. On 21 Jan 2020, Fred wrote: Make no bones, this super mlld and failed diabolical cold is very much fuel for AGW supporters. Piers, when pM airmasses are the winter way forward...please don’t forecast blizzards and diabolical cold for the UK....it doesn’t happen... very poor winter thus far....election day was not disrupted at all....only forecast diabolical cold wgen a DEC 2010 is coming On 20 Jan 2020, Paddy, Aberdeen South, sub, 130m elevation wrote: 3˚C at 7.30, quite still, both in the morning and in the evening but during the day we had a fairly gusty SW’ly wind, brilliantly sunny with a max temp of 7˚, though in the morning much of the open ground was quite frozen, not the case now at 8.30pm, except in shady sheltered spots, 3˚ again. On 20 Jan 2020, Richard Pinder wrote: I think Piers would agree with this short and simple explanation of the Greenhouse Effect, written in the Mensa Magazine. “We do know that the Greenhouse Effect exists because all Planetary Atmospheres have a surface temperature higher than the grey body temperature. The problem is that the Arrhenius hypothesis, as explained by NASA, does not work on planets with carbon dioxide atmospheres, proving that it is a Dogma. On the other hand a formula for the Greenhouse Effect based on Atmospheric mass, gravity and air pressure first suggested by James Clerk Maxwell in 1888, was proved correct in 2011 for all known Planetary Atmospheres by Ned Nikolov & Karl Zeller, Gravity pulling molecules downward producing the heat gradient. Other scientists have found the same results using NASA data with air pressure and the Ideal Gas Law” On 20 Jan 2020, Rich wrote: It would be far easier to convince the public if Piers was pushing the LWA (Little Warm Age) and the wider scientific community were banging on about Global Cooling. The public would see shrinking arctic ice, mild winters/ warm summers, shrinking Alpine Glaciers record warmth on a global scale as they could see and feel it themselves, as that's what people are seeing even if we cant agree on the reason behind it. I do hope Piers recent tweet of prepare for more wild weather isn't a warning of even more wildly mild/warm weather as this will only make selling the LIA to the general public, which is a tough gig to be fair, harder still ( in the UK at the very least). On 20 Jan 2020, Paul (sub) SE UK wrote: Strange - the BBC have news of the Aus fires being put out tucked away under the Australia section of the website now, whereas I'm sure the fires were all over the main page... No mention on the news program either! /////// In other news, they did report in the 2am weather that the current UK high has hit 1050mb and is still rising, the highest since 1957 (apparently). Will be interesting to see how high it goes - I fear they will struggle to cause hysterical fearmongering while reporting that 'Changing climate is causing stable high pressure! Calm winds, average-to-mild temperatures and low precipitation enable the population and wildlife to make productive use of their time and inflicts zero damage! Lack of snow or biting arctic winds reduces elderly person mortality rates and fossil fuel-derived energy usage!'... *rolls eyes* On 19 Jan 2020, Paddy, Aberdeen South, sub, 130m elevation wrote: 0˚C at 7.30, cloudy and almost still, light SWly breeze later, ground well frozen and thawing only where the sun touched it, max temp 4˚, mostly sunny but with varying extent of clouds, 0˚ again by 9.30pm. On 19 Jan 2020, Colin wrote: Hi piers yes the BBC news are upset as Australia has torrential rain putting out the fires and has record low summer Temps so they never put this on the news . Australia didn't burn to a cinder did you see the hysterical channel 4 warming news the world will end in 10 years religious crazies . They want to exterminate half the world population to save the planet On 19 Jan 2020, claude grayson wrote: was going to add too that wellington was fogged in this morning,but the whole page vanished. On 19 Jan 2020, claude grayson wrote: the weather down here is nuts too,last few mornings have been down below 12deg ,and hi's of 21 or so and its been pleasant,but had a cold E/SE,for days. ystdy,still E but 24.5max and o/n L of 16. looked at situ .map and saw Tino siting off to the E dragging hot Tropical air down and pushing it onto us from the E. on the news bias,just a small note on rnz re rain dousing oz fires,and causing flooding. must be unsure whether to call it gw or not,so no large news item. they are such a confused lot,and even our met just show small Trough lines where its been heavy rain,CBs On 19 Jan 2020, Geoff wrote: I think that's what they call a 'wet dream,' Paul; I had one about Greta Thunberg in a lifeboat. But, seriously, Joe Bastardi has been on about water vapour for years...especially since most warming has occurred around the poles. On 19 Jan 2020, Ron Greer wrote: Snow on the hills, ice on the puddles, frost on the grass, this morning, but it's more like the early signs of Spring you get in mid February. Snowdrops out in sheltered spots and the birds are pairing up and singing. Then I remember my frozen friends in Alaska, Maine and Newfoundland.. On 19 Jan 2020, Mark Hall wrote: Harris, Somehow you can introduce the relevance of atmospheric density to support the AGW theory of retroactive causation, but later ignore it when it suits you. This neatly sums up the religion of the Climate Change movement. Any ideas about the global warming that happened on Mars at exactly the same time that it was experienced on Earth? On 19 Jan 2020, Harris Keillar wrote: M Lewis -No, I'm not - distance from the sun is also important and Venus is much closer than we are. I was just saying that Mars is not a relevant benchmark for Earth On 19 Jan 2020, Paul (sub) SE UK wrote: I had random thought last night after waking up after a weird dream... I was thinking about some of the comments regarding increased atmospheric pressure potentially being linked to temperature... and then I was thinking about how water vapour is 30x (IIRC?) more warming than CO2... Now bear with me, but if we are saying that pressure increases temperature, and water vapour increases temperature, can we draw any correlation between the increased volume of CO2 in the atmosphere (and therefore the increased volume and density of the atmosphere overall??) and/or the fact that we humans are sucking water out of underground aquifers across the globe to (unsustainably...) maintain civilisations in very dry places, adding it to the above-ground water cycle and (presumably) evaporation/water vapour in the air. The first (CO2 leading to pressure increase) would seem to support AGW (but not for the usually claimed reasons) but the latter (water vapour) could be an untracked driver of climate? On 18 Jan 2020, C View wrote: Fred. I have seen that same problem on the BBC weather app. The summary of the day will always show a temp. one degree at least warmer than the temps shown in the hour by hour forecast you see when you open up the app On 18 Jan 2020, Paddy, Aberdeen South, sub, 130m elevation wrote: 2˚C at 7.30, sharp W’ly wind starting a day of brilliant sunshine with a max temp of 4˚, always grateful for such days in the midst of so much grey we’ve had so far this winter, 2˚ again at 9pm under a brilliant starry sky. On 18 Jan 2020, M Lewis wrote: Ok Harris so what you are saying is there is a direct correlation between a Planet's atmospheric pressure and its temperature. Venus has a much denser atmosphere than Earth and its atmospheric pressure is far greater. Consequently its temperature is hundreds of degrees Celsius. Average 800 - 900 degrees C. Venus CO2 level is similar to Mars. On 18 Jan 2020, Harris Keillar wrote: M Lewis - Re Mars. The atmosphere is much thinner than Earth's [about 1% of the pressure we have] and Mars is much further away so the effective heating thanks to CO2 is only about 5c compared to Earth's effective rate of 33c. The diurnal and seasonal temperature differences on Mars are huge compared to ours too so is not really comparable as a benchmark On 17 Jan 2020, Paddy, Aberdeen South, sub, 130m elevation wrote: Up in Nairn yesterday, accompanied on the way up by drizzle & light rain, around 6˚C there by evening under a clearing sky, brilliantly sunny all day today on the way back and at home, 7˚ most of the way, somewhat cloudy tonight but stars still peeking through, 3˚ at 8.30pm. On 17 Jan 2020, Ron Greer wrote: RHYS: Goebbels admired the BBC for almost telling the truth. You ain't seen nothing yet until you see BBC Scotland's flagship evening bulletin Reporting Scotland, called by some misreporting Scotland for its accuracy. Noted too that within a few minutes of each other the BBC Scotland weather forecast can in terms of max/min show in some cases 50 to 200% difference from the main London-based forecast. On 17 Jan 2020, Steve Devine wrote: Hi Fred. Yep I've noticed that for years. They always inflate the temperatures in what they say compared to the on screen graphics. All subliminal until it becomes blindingly obvious! On 17 Jan 2020, Fred wrote: Re temps on forecasts, ever notice how they say temps fro 6-12 degrees yet the graphic shows 6-10 degrees....always pumping out false highs On 17 Jan 2020, @Piers_Corbyn London Chief Forecaster wrote: CITIZENS! THANKS FOR POSITIVE COMS ++++ Interesting our January forecast with exciting mild+cold contrasts in space and time from OUR predicted detail of wild jet-stream is now being largely followed by standard Met (weeks later). +++++++++++ NOW ALL PLEASE BE AWARE all we do at WeatherAction and @Action4Life_ is funded by forecast and other sales and a few small donations which are all infintesimal compared with the £$£$£$ HUNDREDS OF MILLIONS spent on standard meteo and MSM and the gigantic funding of Extinction Rebellion and "CONTINENT-WIDE NEW REICHSTAG FIRE" WORLD-WIDE PROPAGANDA PROTESTS aimed at controlling you and everything around you for the service of the mega rich. ++++ SO BUY TODAY SOME OF OUR NEW PAMPHLET (PhilipFoster and I) AND BUY FORECASTS - WE HAVE EVEN MORE SUPER 4-FOR-1 ETC OFFERS + PASS IT ON + GET OTHERS TO BUY +++++ THANK YOU! PC On 17 Jan 2020, Rhys Jaggar wrote: Paul, I have no idea why Attenborough is supposed to add 'gravitas' to GW debates. The man is a biologist, not a meteorologist. He is a self-serving trumped up narcissist who says what is necessary to keep him on the gravy train. David Bellamy told the truth 30 years ago and the BBC discarded him. It shows that the BBC abhors truth and embraces pathological lying. BBC windbags should be confronted with that reality on live TV on very regular occasions: they are massive of other examples: 9/11, the White Helmets, Russia-bashing to name but three. The time has come to expose the BBC for what it is, whilst making it quite clear that US media is even worse. Americans always use any criticism of foreign organisations as leverage to force a buyout: they are totally unworthy of owning anything right now, and they should be told so extremely publicly. On 17 Jan 2020, M Lewis wrote: I have posted this observation several times over the years for Piers to use as a control hypothesis for his climate science. On Mars the atmosphere is 95% CO2. Mars axis is also tilted a similar amount of degrees to the vertical and it experiences the same seasons - just like Earth. Its day is a similar length to Earths. It is also a similar distance from the Sun and located in the Goldilocks zone. Yet, there is no global warming, as it has no water on its surface and only trace amounts of water vapour in its atmosphere and so cannot trap the Sun's heat. On 17 Jan 2020, claude grayson wrote: no Paul,everyone is avoiding any mention of low temps.even our met has changed the format so lows can only be found by a lot of searching ,if you are lucky...they used to have them with the hi every 2 hrs but not any more.there is a vast con going on to brainwash everyone into believers of gw. On 17 Jan 2020, Paul (sub) SE UK wrote: +1 to the comment below re: the stream of AGW 'news' turning into a drowning torrent of unscientific hand-wringing scaremongering. It's all the BBC have been banging on about all day, wheeling out Attenborough to add gravitas to their demagoguing, all of it designed to inspire angst and fear, and not a scientific presentation of facts in sight - well, bar claims of the hottest and driest year in Australia evveerrrrr, and that the past decade is apparently the warmest on record. Yet from what I've read on here, there are places having record lows? Are they not included in the calculations?? ////// In better news, watching the BBC's Europe-wide weather forecast this evening, it looks like they are saying exactly the same as the WA Jan forecast for the next week or more! On 16 Jan 2020, C View wrote: I can't take it anymore, it is becoming intolerable. Every time I sitch on the radio or TV they are only talking about one thing, AGW. Moron after moron parroting the same schtick completely disregarding science and history. Trying to make out that every weather event is the worst there has ever been. No historical context is ever given to the fires in Australia, Black Friday in 1939 saw people killed and massive destruction all the way from Melbourne to Canberra. A look at the records shows Oz lurches from drought to flood to heatwave and so on. When are we going to see someone in power take a stance and say enough is enough. BTW did anyone see that a Facebook glitch showed up who has been posting in the name of Greta.? Namely her father and some Indian UN climate loon. On 16 Jan 2020, Rhys Jaggar wrote: Had a very interesting read of a 1958 2nd edition of 'Introduction to Meteorology' (Pettersen) the past few days. It is interesting because of course it is utterly free of global warming BS and focuses on what was still quite rudimentary technology for weather analysis and forecasting. I would love to make it compulsory reading for every woke undergraduate wishing to obtain a 'grown up degree' in the 2020s lol. For those that would like an old-fashioned coverage of the major issues in meteorology at about 1st year undergraduate level, it is well worth reading. On 16 Jan 2020, colin wrote: hi piers i must say your masterclass is great - exposing the climate lies - i have been studying climate change and leading scientists now say the effect of c02 is greatly over estimated as it is already saturated. it only takes 20 parts per million of c02 to produce 50% of its greenhouse effect. and the co2 effect is dwarfed by water vapor greenhouse effect. the greenhouse effect does not make the suns radiation warmer - it just delays the heat absorbed from the sun from leaving the earth - so it doesn't get cold as quickly - it just slows down cooling. we all know this as on a winter night if its cloudy its warmer as heat is delayed from leaving - if clear skys its colder as heat escapes quicker . water vapor dominates as it is 30 times more than c02. On 16 Jan 2020, Paul (sub) SE UK wrote: The UK weather has certainly been interesting recently - no wonder it is hard to predict when the jet stream is all over the place! ==== I just thought I'd copy across a link to what looks like a good website that Ron posted just before the last blog closed (http://www.weatheraction.com/displayarticle.asp?a=844&c=5) - I've only had a quick read but it looks like a succinct explanation that could be sent to 'Believers' for some reading, if they were so inclined to be challenged! >>> https://whyclimatechanges.com/impossible/ On 16 Jan 2020, Ron Greer wrote: Aye, Piers, there's more to climate than what's happening outside of the windows of Norwich. 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